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Ronnie Hillman, Denver 1/3 STARTING RB (2 Viewers)

Told you guys a month ago (game against the NYJ) he didn't look special - and drew a bunch of criticism for it. And here we are and we all see he's not special.

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Since you are such a Nostradamus why don't you just tell us how it will play out each week and save us the trouble. TIA

 
Told you guys a month ago (game against the NYJ) he didn't look special - and drew a bunch of criticism for it. And here we are and we all see he's not special.

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he got hurt numbnuts
Keep telling yourself that's the only reason. You can start him again in 3 weeks.
Actually that was exactly the only reason, you keep telling yourself that he was benched.

Three weeks from now isn't relevant to anything you have said, there was always the possibility this would devolve into a RBBC the Hillman injury only increases that possibility. CJ will have three games and Ball two games to make the case for being the lead back.

 
Told you guys a month ago (game against the NYJ) he didn't look special - and drew a bunch of criticism for it. And here we are and we all see he's not special.

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he got hurt numbnuts
Keep telling yourself that's the only reason. You can start him again in 3 weeks.
Actually that was exactly the only reason, you keep telling yourself that he was benched.

Three weeks from now isn't relevant to anything you have said, there was always the possibility this would devolve into a RBBC the Hillman injury only increases that possibility. CJ will have three games and Ball two games to make the case for being the lead back.
You need to reread abouit a month's worht of posts about how awesome he is and that Ball's time is over.

 
Told you guys a month ago (game against the NYJ) he didn't look special - and drew a bunch of criticism for it. And here we are and we all see he's not special.

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he got hurt numbnuts
Keep telling yourself that's the only reason. You can start him again in 3 weeks.
Actually that was exactly the only reason, you keep telling yourself that he was benched.

Three weeks from now isn't relevant to anything you have said, there was always the possibility this would devolve into a RBBC the Hillman injury only increases that possibility. CJ will have three games and Ball two games to make the case for being the lead back.
You need to reread abouit a month's worht of posts about how awesome he is and that Ball's time is over.
No, I don't. He was better then Ball by any and all measures (that you choose to ignore for some reason...fishing perhaps?) but that didn't make him a lock to hold onto the job (even though every report suggested that he would be the starter and Ball himself said that he should). The injury opened the door again creating doubt at the position, what happens during those two weeks will determine what role Hillman will have when he returns. But don't delude yourself into thinking that if he wasn't injured that the door would have been opened at all, any one of the Denver backs would have looked dominant against the Raiders on Sunday.

 
Told you guys a month ago (game against the NYJ) he didn't look special - and drew a bunch of criticism for it. And here we are and we all see he's not special.

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he got hurt numbnuts
What he said.

3 very good games and one stinker vs NE (in which he still scored 2x) and he gets hurt and you think he was benched because he wasn't very special? it's simply a case of next man up, and thats CJ now.

 
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Told you guys a month ago (game against the NYJ) he didn't look special - and drew a bunch of criticism for it. And here we are and we all see he's not special.

:banned:
he got hurt numbnuts
Keep telling yourself that's the only reason. You can start him again in 3 weeks.
Actually that was exactly the only reason, you keep telling yourself that he was benched.

Three weeks from now isn't relevant to anything you have said, there was always the possibility this would devolve into a RBBC the Hillman injury only increases that possibility. CJ will have three games and Ball two games to make the case for being the lead back.
You need to reread abouit a month's worht of posts about how awesome he is and that Ball's time is over.
No, I don't. He was better then Ball by any and all measures (that you choose to ignore for some reason...fishing perhaps?) but that didn't make him a lock to hold onto the job (even though every report suggested that he would be the starter and Ball himself said that he should). The injury opened the door again creating doubt at the position, what happens during those two weeks will determine what role Hillman will have when he returns. But don't delude yourself into thinking that if he wasn't injured that the door would have been opened at all, any one of the Denver backs would have looked dominant against the Raiders on Sunday.
You're funny

 
Anybody actually believe CJ remains a starter? Sounds like Ball steps right back in next week. Coaches trust Ball. They benched CJ right after Ball was hurt, clearly not trusting him to take over. And he only stepped in once Hillman went down, doing good but great against a bad OAK run defense.

I don't see CJ keeping the job if Ball is now healthy. And I don't see Ball keeping the job once Hillman is healthy.

 
But don't delude yourself into thinking that if he wasn't injured that the door would have been opened at all, any one of the Denver backs would have looked dominant against the Raiders on Sunday.
You're funny
Thanks. You seem delusional.
You're funny cause you are advocating that he is the best RB - and now you are stating that an injury is causing him to lose his job. He just drew a ton of criticism from Denver coaching for his play in NE. And he was off to more of the same last week. If he was all that great, he wouldn;t be losing his job due to an injury.

Conclusion - he's not as great as you and many others wanted to paint him simply because he's on your team.

You are in denial.

 
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But don't delude yourself into thinking that if he wasn't injured that the door would have been opened at all, any one of the Denver backs would have looked dominant against the Raiders on Sunday.
You're funny
Thanks. You seem delusional.
You're funny cause you are advocating that he is the best RB - and now you are stating that an injury is causing him to lose his job. He just drew a ton of criticism from Denver coaching for his play in NE. And he was off to more of the same last week. If he was all that great, he wouldn;t be losing his job due to an injury.

Conclusion - he's not as great as you and many others wanted to paint him simply because he's on your team.

You are in denial.
Wrong again. You are delusional because you believe people were saying that Hillman is great when the truth is that all most people were saying is that he performed better then Ball and earned a shot at keeping the starting job when Ball came back. I don't think anyone was putting him in the class of great RBs in the NFL, just performing better then Ball. The news out of Denver supported that and Ball himself agreed.

You are arguing against points that weren't really being made.

 
Also last week was not more of the same. Hillman was hurt early, and significantly enough to knock him out for at least two weeks, so Denver went with their third and fourth options. Their third option, Thompson, was reported on the broadcast to be nursing a knee issue so CJ was next man up. He performed incredibly well and deserves plenty of credit. Perhaps he can seize the lion's share of PT the rest of the way but try to at least temper that kind of enthusiasm with the fact that it took three injuries to put Anderson in position to excel against a weak defense.

 
But don't delude yourself into thinking that if he wasn't injured that the door would have been opened at all, any one of the Denver backs would have looked dominant against the Raiders on Sunday.
You're funny
Thanks. You seem delusional.
You're funny cause you are advocating that he is the best RB - and now you are stating that an injury is causing him to lose his job. He just drew a ton of criticism from Denver coaching for his play in NE. And he was off to more of the same last week. If he was all that great, he wouldn;t be losing his job due to an injury.

Conclusion - he's not as great as you and many others wanted to paint him simply because he's on your team.

You are in denial.
Wrong again. You are delusional because you believe people were saying that Hillman is great when the truth is that all most people were saying is that he performed better then Ball and earned a shot at keeping the starting job when Ball came back. I don't think anyone was putting him in the class of great RBs in the NFL, just performing better then Ball. The news out of Denver supported that and Ball himself agreed.

You are arguing against points that weren't really being made.
This is getting no where - I am not even sure what you are arguing. I said he didn't look speclal in the NYJ game and drew criticism for it - from people who didn't watch the game. You stated he is only losing his job due to an injury. If he should be the starter - as you are stating - then his job shouldn't be in jeopardy because of an injury. The most talented back doesn't lose their start due to injury

You may have a point in that logic somewhere but I cannot find it. And it isn't worth the effort or dragging this thread down trying to figure out what your point is - the band wagon has come to a crashing stop - but you are still at the wheel.

 
Why do people think he won the job in camp?
It's a mystery.

Why do people think CJ Anderson will take the starting job despite needing three injuries in front of him to see significant PT?
Because in his career so far, he's never had more than 2 carries in a regular season game without averaging at least 5 ypc.
trusting ypc stats generated while in a backup role is dangerous

 
Why do people think he won the job in camp?
It's a mystery.

Why do people think CJ Anderson will take the starting job despite needing three injuries in front of him to see significant PT?
Because in his career so far, he's never had more than 2 carries in a regular season game without averaging at least 5 ypc.
trusting ypc stats generated while in a backup role is dangerous
Agreed. We're talking about a grand total of 37 career carries. The coaching staff had him as the #4 or #3 RB on the roster, that generally doesn't happen to the best RB on the team.

 
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Why do people think he won the job in camp?
It's a mystery. Why do people think CJ Anderson will take the starting job despite needing three injuries in front of him to see significant PT?
Because in his career so far, he's never had more than 2 carries in a regular season game without averaging at least 5 ypc.
trusting ypc stats generated while in a backup role is dangerous
I agree. But it's why people believe it. And he certainly didn't hurt that perception last week.
 
Rotoworld:

Ronnie Hillman - RB - Broncos

According to ESPN Broncos reporter Jeff Legwold, Ronnie Hillman's mid-foot sprain is expected to sideline him for "at least 2-3 weeks."

The Denver Post previously reported Hillman would miss "at least two weeks," although coach John Fox stated Monday that Hillman was "day to day." Especially with Montee Ball coming back, Denver has plenty of running back depth to resist rushing back Hillman. Fantasy owners need to be making other plans. Specifically, pick up C.J. Anderson as an upside flex play at St. Louis.

Source: ESPN.com

Nov 11 - 9:42 PM
 
The sign the end was nigh was when Ball hurt his foot and blew the pass coverages. Now that he's hurt CJ and Ball will have a chance to establish themselves. Already we've seen Fox praise Ball's weight loss and ensuing quickness. Hillman's strong games will not be totally forgotten but if the coaches are going hot hand, you have to believe it's not just in-game hot hand but who's currently playing the best over the last couple of games. That's going to make it hard for Hillman to regain his seat to the extent he had it during that one stretch.

And will anyone have confidence starting him in the playoffs with the chance that all of a sudden Ball or CJ could just take a game over, even if Hillman had regained supremacy of carries? He's not really cuttable but he might be anything more than a flex here on out unless CJ and Ball flop.

 
I'm having reservations starting any of the Fenver backs in the playoffs over Lesean McCoy. And that's saying something.

 
ESPN's Adam Schefter reports Ronnie Hillman's foot injury could cost him up to six weeks.
Schefter says the timetable on Hillman is 2-6 weeks, as the foot injury has proved more severe than initially believed. Per ESPN's Chris Mortensen, the Broncos will continue to "ride the hot hand," with C.J. Anderson starting against the Rams, but Montee Ball and Juwan Thompson both mixing into the backfield.
 
Rotoworld:

The Denver Post expects Ronnie Hillman (foot) to miss Week 12.

ESPN's Adam Schefter reported on Sunday that Hillman could miss another month, but it sounds like the Broncos are taking things week-to-week with their third-year back. With Hillman's timeline entirely unclear, he's not a must hold in 12-14 team leagues with the fantasy playoffs just around the corner.

Source: Denver Post
Nov 17 - 5:13 PM
 
Rotoworld:

The Broncos hope to have Ronnie Hillman (foot) back "if not this week at Cincinnati then in the season finale."

The Broncos could put Hillman to use as a complement to C.J. Anderson, who's averaged an unruly 27.25 carries per game over the past month. Shifty and quick, Hillman would make more sense as a true change-of-pace than Juwan Thompson, who is a big back like Anderson. Even if Hillman plays Monday night at Cincinnati, it would be a surprise if he handled more than 7-9 touches.

Source: Denver Post
Dec 17 - 9:39 PM
 
Rotoworld:

The Denver Post suggests the artificial turf at Cincinnati's Paul Brown Stadium makes it less likely Ronnie Hillman (questionable, foot) plays this week.

Hillman is "close" to returning, but the Broncos won't rush him back after doing so with Montee Ball (groin) and ultimately losing him for the season. "I'm better than I was," Hillman said. "Getting better. Progressing. I'm just waiting for them to say, 'You're up this week.' Whenever that happens, it happens. Playoffs, next week, I don't know." Look for Juwan Thompson to spend one more week as C.J. Anderson's primary breather back.

Source: Denver Post

Dec 21 - 11:14 AM
 
Rotoworld:

ESPN Broncos reporter Jeff Legwold expects Ronnie Hillman to open training camp on the roster bubble.

Legwold goes so far as to predict Hillman will indeed be cut, leaving C.J. Anderson, Montee Ball, and Juwan Thompson as Denver's top-three backs. Still only 23 years old -- he turns 24 in September -- Hillman reportedly struggled to pick up Gary Kubiak's zone-blocking system at spring practices. He has a near-minimum salary and would generate a lot of interest on waivers.

Source: ESPN.com
Jul 24 - 1:54 PM
 
I liked what i saw in previous action. Where do we think he could go, and start, or get a solid amount of touches in a timeshare?

Indy? Houston? TB? Bal?

 
Rotoworld:

Ronnie Hillman - RB - Broncos

Ronnie Hillman has been sprinkled in ahead of Montee Ball at recent Broncos training camp practices.

Whereas previous reports suggested Ball was being pushed by Juwan Thompson, it now appears Hillman is giving Ball a run for the second tailback job. C.J. Anderson is solidified as the starter. Previous speculation had Hillman picking up the offense too slowly, so he must have come on. Hillman holds a career 3.99 YPC average, but Peyton Manning trusts him on passing downs.

Source: 9 News Denver

Aug 9 - 4:46 PM
Link:

http://www.9news.com/story/sports/2015/08/09/ronnie-hillman-cj-anderson-montee-ball-denver-broncos/31380583/

 
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Rotoworld:

Ronnie Hillman rushed eight times for 66 yards and caught an 11-yard pass in the Broncos' preseason opener Friday night.

Hillman played behind C.J. Anderson and Montee Ball, although Hillman and Ball wound up largely rotating with the "twos." Juwan Thompson was further down the depth chart. It's a small sample in a preseason game, of course, but Hillman looked like the best Broncos back in this game, knifing through the defense for chunk yardage. He's certainly someone worth monitoring.

Aug 15 - 8:47 AM
 
Rotoworld:

Ronnie Hillman - RB - Broncos

Coach Gary Kubiak heaped praise on Ronnie Hillman following the Broncos' preseason opener.

Hillman was Denver's most productive back, ripping off chunk plays en route to 77 total yards on nine touches. "We ran the ball really well in the first half and Ronnie had a lot to do with that," Kubiak said. "Ronnie's got that gear that maybe the other guys in our group don't have as far as getting the ball to the edge. Some of the zones we had tonight the ball needed to get to the edge, he got it there." There is no evidence of a running back controversy in Denver, but it's a reminder that Hillman is a talented all-purpose player who can produce when called upon. He could very well be a threat to Montee Ball's No. 2 rank on the depth chart.

Source: 9 News Denver

Aug 15 - 3:42 PM
 
Rotoworld:

Ronnie Hillman - RB - Broncos

Coach Gary Kubiak heaped praise on Ronnie Hillman following the Broncos' preseason opener.Hillman was Denver's most productive back, ripping off chunk plays en route to 77 total yards on nine touches. "We ran the ball really well in the first half and Ronnie had a lot to do with that," Kubiak said. "Ronnie's got that gear that maybe the other guys in our group don't have as far as getting the ball to the edge. Some of the zones we had tonight the ball needed to get to the edge, he got it there." There is no evidence of a running back controversy in Denver, but it's a reminder that Hillman is a talented all-purpose player who can produce when called upon. He could very well be a threat to Montee Ball's No. 2 rank on the depth chart.

Source: 9 News Denver

Aug 15 - 3:42 PM
Warning to anyone drafting Anderson in the first round

 
Hillman a FA after this season. Do the Broncos try to move him? I doubt they have plans to resign. I'm sure he will want a chance to start. Or maybe they keep Hillman and trade Ball. Lots of options.

 
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Broncos coach Gary Kubiak said on Sirius XM Radio on Monday that he believes Ronnie Hillman "deserves more touches."

Since the preseason, Hillman has looked like the Broncos' best back, better in pretty much every phase than C.J. Anderson. After Hillman broke a 72-yard touchdown run in Sunday's win over Minnesota, Kubiak studied the tape Monday morning and called Hillman the Broncos' "offensive player of the game," before going on the radio and stating Hillman has the "hot hand." Expect Hillman to lead Denver's backfield in touches this week against the Raiders.
 

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