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Gotta give up something to get something. I too wish we could stay at 20 and still get mariota but that's obviously not happening. If we don't want to mortgage our team, and you want to keep cox, then its going to cost us quite a few picks. If Chip pulls this off tonight I'm going to be very impressed.
Maybe. But not after he takes a few hits. Which he will certainly do if Cle trades away a first rounder for him. Cle needs to use one of their first 3 picks for Oline. Not QB.
They just picked up his 5th-year option for 2016 on Tuesday, so that's why it's now 2 years.
Yeah I should have made it more clear, I would rather deal Cox/Kenricks/Boykin than give up a bunch of draft picks. (In addition to the assumed 2 1sts we will have this year) Love Cox and Kendricks, but if they don't have to mortgage future drafts to get it done I think you have to try and pull it off.
It has been beaten to death and with Chip just coming into power there's probably 40 people that aren't "his guys"...I think its overthought at this point. I think you can rationalize every guy he got rid of and even Kendricks IMO. Cox seems like exactly what Chip wants in a player IMO
The good ole, we aren't good at it so lets not try anymore philosophy? Lol
Don't think he slips that low. For three reasons:
I actually said in the Mariota thread I believe that's all the Jets need and should go get him. Whether they will who knows...always hard to say.
I think Chip is very smart... which is why I think he's got something up his sleeve here. There are numerous reports out today that the eagles are doing "all they can to move up for mariota". I don't think all of these are just media hype, and I think there's some backing to them. I'm not convinced we'll make a trade, but I doubt chip hasn't seriously inquired about #2.I actually said in the Mariota thread I believe that's all the Jets need and should go get him. Whether they will who knows...always hard to say.
I don't think Chip made any crazy calls, I know Im in the minority. He realized where Mariota would go and decided to get Bradford and probably hasn't seriously inquired about #2 since...or any other pick that would cost an arm and a leg.
This is a guy that is supposed to be super-smart yet we all think he'll do something stupid. When he said he wont mortgage the future for one guy I believed him
That wouldn't make sense... if we moved up to get a particular wr, it means dealing bradford to cleve. Lots of talk today about Bradford to Cleve so I'm just curious if that is 100% contingent on us making a 2nd trade to 2 for MM.
FTR, I'm friends with a bunch of Browns fans, and according to them, the talk in Ohio is that the Browns have no interest in Bradford. Local reporters there are saying that ALL the Bradford to Cleveland talk is originating with the Eagles.
Cleve can't sabotage Philly from getting MM. Tenn can, by saying no to the deal after they acquire that pick from Cleve for Bradford.
Right, thanks.
I don't believe any of the reports and with us its too hard to. Chip wears all the hats now and he doesn't talk to anyone in the media. With that said how would they know a thing? One guy knows and I know he isn't saying anything. It's all stories IMO. I wouldn't be shocked to hear we never made an offer for #2I think Chip is very smart... which is why I think he's got something up his sleeve here. There are numerous reports out today that the eagles are doing "all they can to move up for mariota". I don't think all of these are just media hype, and I think there's some backing to them. I'm not convinced we'll make a trade, but I doubt chip hasn't seriously inquired about #2.I actually said in the Mariota thread I believe that's all the Jets need and should go get him. Whether they will who knows...always hard to say.
I don't think Chip made any crazy calls, I know Im in the minority. He realized where Mariota would go and decided to get Bradford and probably hasn't seriously inquired about #2 since...or any other pick that would cost an arm and a leg.
This is a guy that is supposed to be super-smart yet we all think he'll do something stupid. When he said he wont mortgage the future for one guy I believed him
I don't think it is going to cost as much as we think/fear it potentially could. If Tenn sees MM as a franchise QB, then they will expect a ton, and I trust that Chip won't give it up. If they don't see him as one, then when they're on the clock they will either pass on him, or take a much lesser deal. I think we are in a good spot and have the upper hand on tennessee here to show us their hand first.
But he has to talk to Tenn and they will talk to the media so that the price goes up.I don't believe any of the reports and with us its too hard to. Chip wears all the hats now and he doesn't talk to anyone in the media. With that said how would they know a thing? One guy knows and I know he isn't saying anything. It's all stories IMO. I wouldn't be shocked to hear we never made an offer for #2I think Chip is very smart... which is why I think he's got something up his sleeve here. There are numerous reports out today that the eagles are doing "all they can to move up for mariota". I don't think all of these are just media hype, and I think there's some backing to them. I'm not convinced we'll make a trade, but I doubt chip hasn't seriously inquired about #2.I actually said in the Mariota thread I believe that's all the Jets need and should go get him. Whether they will who knows...always hard to say.
I don't think Chip made any crazy calls, I know Im in the minority. He realized where Mariota would go and decided to get Bradford and probably hasn't seriously inquired about #2 since...or any other pick that would cost an arm and a leg.
This is a guy that is supposed to be super-smart yet we all think he'll do something stupid. When he said he wont mortgage the future for one guy I believed him
I don't think it is going to cost as much as we think/fear it potentially could. If Tenn sees MM as a franchise QB, then they will expect a ton, and I trust that Chip won't give it up. If they don't see him as one, then when they're on the clock they will either pass on him, or take a much lesser deal. I think we are in a good spot and have the upper hand on tennessee here to show us their hand first.
That's what we will hear if they can't get a deal done, but that doesn't mean it's true. Like all coaches, Chip will lie if he needs to.Bigboy10182000 said:I don't believe any of the reports and with us its too hard to. Chip wears all the hats now and he doesn't talk to anyone in the media. With that said how would they know a thing? One guy knows and I know he isn't saying anything. It's all stories IMO. I wouldn't be shocked to hear we never made an offer for #2Deamon said:I think Chip is very smart... which is why I think he's got something up his sleeve here. There are numerous reports out today that the eagles are doing "all they can to move up for mariota". I don't think all of these are just media hype, and I think there's some backing to them. I'm not convinced we'll make a trade, but I doubt chip hasn't seriously inquired about #2.Bigboy10182000 said:I actually said in the Mariota thread I believe that's all the Jets need and should go get him. Whether they will who knows...always hard to say.Deamon said:
I don't think Chip made any crazy calls, I know Im in the minority. He realized where Mariota would go and decided to get Bradford and probably hasn't seriously inquired about #2 since...or any other pick that would cost an arm and a leg.
This is a guy that is supposed to be super-smart yet we all think he'll do something stupid. When he said he wont mortgage the future for one guy I believed him
I don't think it is going to cost as much as we think/fear it potentially could. If Tenn sees MM as a franchise QB, then they will expect a ton, and I trust that Chip won't give it up. If they don't see him as one, then when they're on the clock they will either pass on him, or take a much lesser deal. I think we are in a good spot and have the upper hand on tennessee here to show us their hand first.
