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MY POOP IS RED!!!

This is why I really can't do the beet juice. If I see red in there I'm pumping meds and making plans to see my GI doc.
MY POOP IS RED!!!
Easiest way to make sure of that is to stick with a pace group to start.Made me aware that I will have to make sure I'm not trying to run some crazy pace to start if I want to make sure I hit my goals.
blah blah blah, what color is your poop?I've had countless runs where I'm thinking about that kind of stuff. I'm struggling to keep a pace with a 7 in front of it and these guys are out for a stroll. Truth be told, those thoughts occupy a lot of my runs (for good and bad). I was just looking at my fartlek run yesterday and seeing my "bursts of incredible speed" that I can hold for maybe 30 seconds don't touch what they've run a 5 miler race.
But, someone wrote to me here early on: "There's always someone faster and there's always someone slower".
And it's true. A guy on my Strava that is a running coach here has run a HM faster than these guys can run a 5K. And he's not even the fastest runner in this city. At the same time, there are plenty of runners that can't hit our "easy" paces.
But most importantly -- none of that matters. Because that person that can barely hit a 10 or 11 min mile is at least out there running. As are you and all of us. Challenge yourself but there's no benefit to comparing yourself to others unless you're trying to improve by doing the things they do. And THAT's the motivation these guys on here give.
You know how I know they don't give a #### how slow I am? Because there's a few of them traveling here to race WITH me despite knowing I don't give them any chance of winning anything. And that's why I love this thread and this group.
I know I'll never run at the paces these guys here run. But I'll keep trying and put the work in as if I can.
How is it a known superior approach?From my year end report:
A) Run every race as a negative split. Reading @SteelCurtain's thoughts above just emphasized this even more. Most of you, of course having done this for a while, are disciplined and do this the right way. I need to get on board. Don't get me wrong, I've had intentions of doing so but I now see how easy it is to go out the window. And not just for me, apparently. I think it's crazy that less than 15% of racers run negative splits when it's known to be a superior approach. I'm going to join that 15% in 2019
Race strategy = neurostim and beet juice (skip the entire can of coke), PR.The Iguana said:Made me aware that I will have to make sure I'm not trying to run some crazy pace to start if I want to make sure I hit my goals.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Back up the truck. What you say?gianmarco said:\Because there's a few of them traveling here to race WITH me despite knowing I don't give them any chance of winning anything.
Most/all elite PRs are set with a negative split. I can't find the article but it was pretty emphatic.BassNBrew said:How is it a known superior approach?
The Iguana said:"What problem?", you ask? Well, thanks for asking... That problem is making sure I don't go out too fast and that I follow the plan for the race that I have set out on.
First step to overcoming a problem is admitting you have one.Juxtatarot said:Easiest way to make sure of that is to stick with a pace group to start.
I certainly can't comment on form but I think you need to brush your teeth!Still taking it easy. Leg is feeling really good, but I still plan to give it a few more days. I had my brother film me on the treadmill this morning so I can see if there is an issue with my form that is putting more stress on a certain area. I’ll post the YouTube link here. I know everyone’s form is different, and I don’t plan to change completely. But, if anyone has some advice or comments, I would really appreciate it. Take care, fellas. https://youtu.be/tmibYcsPIBk
1st pace is around 9:00
2nd is 7:35
3rd is like 6:20
Also, the shoes have basically no drop (3mm). I usually run in VaporFly 4%(10-12mm), but I read that a higher drop has more of an impact on the issue I’m having.
Two things to consider: The first is minor, as you seem to be clenching your fists instead of letting the fingers 'float.' The second thing I see is that you're heel striking and not making much use of your upper legs. Part of that, then, is that you're quite erect and not getting a slight forward lean. Stuff to think about!Still taking it easy. Leg is feeling really good, but I still plan to give it a few more days. I had my brother film me on the treadmill this morning so I can see if there is an issue with my form that is putting more stress on a certain area. I’ll post the YouTube link here. I know everyone’s form is different, and I don’t plan to change completely. But, if anyone has some advice or comments, I would really appreciate it. Take care, fellas. https://youtu.be/tmibYcsPIBk
But yeah, looking at this, with more forward lean, this strike would be underneath him more and not cause as much jarring/braking with each step?Two things to consider: The first is minor, as you seem to be clenching your fists instead of letting the fingers 'float.' The second thing I see is that you're heel striking and not making much use of your upper legs. Part of that, then, is that you're quite erect and not getting a slight forward lean. Stuff to think about!
But yeah, looking at this, with more forward lean, this strike would be underneath him more and not cause as much jarring/braking with each step?
Thanks!Two things to consider: The first is minor, as you seem to be clenching your fists instead of letting the fingers 'float.' The second thing I see is that you're heel striking and not making much use of your upper legs. Part of that, then, is that you're quite erect and not getting a slight forward lean. Stuff to think about!
You should post that on treadmillrunnersonly.com. Flowing hair, a little shake in your shimmy - booyah!Still taking it easy. Leg is feeling really good, but I still plan to give it a few more days. I had my brother film me on the treadmill this morning so I can see if there is an issue with my form that is putting more stress on a certain area. I’ll post the YouTube link here. I know everyone’s form is different, and I don’t plan to change completely. But, if anyone has some advice or comments, I would really appreciate it. Take care, fellas. https://youtu.be/tmibYcsPIBk
1st pace is around 9:00
2nd is 7:35
3rd is like 6:20
Also, the shoes have basically no drop (3mm). I usually run in VaporFly 4%(10-12mm), but I read that a higher drop has more of an impact on the issue I’m having.
Screen name suggestion?You should post that on treadmillrunnersonly.com. Flowing hair, a little shake in your shimmy - booyah!
Maybe this is why I’m having lower leg issues. For the record, the Sciatica pain is on the right side. It feels and somewhat looks like there’s a bit of a hitch when that foot hits the ground. Almost feels like it gets stuck on the ground a bit longer than the left foot.Two things to consider: The first is minor, as you seem to be clenching your fists instead of letting the fingers 'float.' The second thing I see is that you're heel striking and not making much use of your upper legs. Part of that, then, is that you're quite erect and not getting a slight forward lean. Stuff to think about!
It's called taper madness and it's perfectly normal.I might be developing a problem... I went on a nice peaceful 7 mile run this morning with my dog and then took the dog and my youngest daughter downtown and walked about 5 or 6 miles along the canal. Sitting here watching a little basketball, I find myself wanting to go out and run a few more miles for no reason. This is going to be a long week of work waiting for next Saturday.
this was me this morning. set out at what felt like a great pace. cruising along around the mile 4 (of 9.3) point and hear a woman i just passed say to her friend "oh, we're doing great... we're around 9:20"The Iguana said:That problem is making sure I don't go out too fast and that I follow the plan for the race that I have set out on.
True, but the back-of-the-foot landing contributes to the, um, erection?But yeah, looking at this, with more forward lean, this strike would be underneath him more and not cause as much jarring/braking with each step?
Lol@hills in Florida.True, but the back-of-the-foot landing contributes to the, um, erection?
Remind me, @JShare87, do you do hill work? A wonderful thing about hills (just a modest slope is fine) is that it tends to force a forefoot landing and a natural lean. That's a good way to develop the feel for that stride.
Lol@hills in Florida.
Yeah, the left leg/foot rotation is different than the right, which forces a reaction from the other foot's landing. As the left leg comes back, the toes swing inward - even blocking the view of the right calf/foot. Then as the leg/foot start to move forward, the toes swing more to the middle or outside. Along with this, the legs stay very tight together, almost like you're running along a line on the road. The result seems to be that your right foot, then, lands on the outside of the foot. The "hitch" could be your body's alignment recovering from the imbalance being created.Maybe this is why I’m having lower leg issues. For the record, the Sciatica pain is on the right side. It feels and somewhat looks like there’s a bit of a hitch when that foot hits the ground. Almost feels like it gets stuck on the ground a bit longer than the left foot.
We don't have hills in Chicago, either. But today, for example, I ran a couple miles to the expressway and did 18 repeats on a 130 yard incline. I can also catch a larger/longer local road going high over a number of train tracks. I also will use sometimes of the stairs in a nearby parking garage. We make do!
Agreed. I actually love running on the white lines in the road. I have always wondered how my feet seem to land on the same spot on the line. Any suggestions on how to correct this? When working out, my right quad is noticeably stronger than my left. My left hamstring is noticeably stronger than my right. I do a lot of single leg strength excercises so it is noticeable. Also, @gianmarco is right. I am not farmiliar with the term hill.Yeah, the left leg/foot rotation is different than the right, which forces a reaction from the other foot's landing. As the left leg comes back, the toes swing inward - even blocking the view of the right calf/foot. Then as the leg/foot start to move forward, the toes swing more to the middle or outside. Along with this, the legs stay very tight together, almost like you're running along a line on the road. The result seems to be that your right foot, then, lands on the outside of the foot. The "hitch" could be your body's alignment recovering from the imbalance being created.
It also seems that your hip is dropping as the leg moves back (note how your black shorts dip to each side). I don't think your quads are active enough to keep you steady and to help drive you forward. As you can see at the end of the clip, the upside down "V" formed by the angle of your legs isn't creating much of a gap.
This stride has a good look to it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVGStU5bcao
I've been to Chicago. But I lived in Florida.We don't have hills in Chicago, either. But today, for example, I ran a couple miles to the expressway and did 18 repeats on a 130 yard incline. I can also catch a larger/longer local road going high over a number of train tracks. I also will use sometimes of the stairs in a nearby parking garage. We make do!
That kind of asymmetry is definitely a red flag.Agreed. I actually love running on the white lines in the road. I have always wondered how my feet seem to land on the same spot on the line. Any suggestions on how to correct this? When working out, my right quad is noticeably stronger than my left. My left hamstring is noticeably stronger than my right. I do a lot of single leg strength excercises so it is noticeable. Also, @gianmarco is right. I am not farmiliar with the term hill.
Maybe he could find a good sinkhole to run in and out of.I've been to Chicago. But I lived in Florida.
There. Are. No. Hills. In. Florida.
The only exception is central Florida near the Clermont area and maybe some areas up north. Otherwise, that's it. There are no basements in Florida and 2 story homes are rare. Doing work on a treadmill with incline is about it. Otherwise elevation is non-existent-- natural or man-made.
Lots of Jack too.BassNBrew said:9 miles on the mountain roads today. Back and hip are back to barking. 3 miles up, 4 miles down, and then 2 flat miles to finish. Goal was to give the quads and knees and good pounding. Lots of wild turkeys out this spring
So, I feel a little creepy having watched the entire video, but I’m a BMF in training so I’m pretty sure I get to keep my man card.JShare87 said:Still taking it easy. Leg is feeling really good, but I still plan to give it a few more days. I had my brother film me on the treadmill this morning so I can see if there is an issue with my form that is putting more stress on a certain area. I’ll post the YouTube link here. I know everyone’s form is different, and I don’t plan to change completely. But, if anyone has some advice or comments, I would really appreciate it. Take care, fellas. https://youtu.be/tmibYcsPIBk
1st pace is around 9:00
2nd is 7:35
3rd is like 6:20
Also, the shoes have basically no drop (3mm). I usually run in VaporFly 4%(10-12mm), but I read that a higher drop has more of an impact on the issue I’m having.
Could you try running one foot on and one foot off the line? You might also try some lateral movements, such as shown in this training video. And hopefully you can find a good stairway (or stadium bleachers) to run up in order to get that feel.JShare87 said:Agreed. I actually love running on the white lines in the road. I have always wondered how my feet seem to land on the same spot on the line. Any suggestions on how to correct this? When working out, my right quad is noticeably stronger than my left. My left hamstring is noticeably stronger than my right. I do a lot of single leg strength excercises so it is noticeable. Also, @gianmarco is right. I am not farmiliar with the term hill.
They don't know yet - models aren't agreeing on what the jet stream's doing late in the week. That route will provide clarity on what happens after, but it may be mid-week before the line settles.Thunderstorms for Carmel on Saturday morning. Bummer.
No idea. Move it to Sunday?They'll cancel if there are thunderstorms, right?
Marathons are hard to move due to all the logistics of street closings and stuff.No idea. Move it to Sunday?
Either scenario sucks balls.