bigbrownbag
Footballguy
This guy is not worth a reply. Just ignore him. He's probably like 14 and new to football.
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*Official* - Jeremy Langford (1 Viewer)
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Says the guy who thinks Carey looked better than Langford. And I forgot more about football than you'll ever know. Come back and see me when Forte is getting the same share of carries he did before the injury. If someone disagrees with you, they're new to football. Yet I'm the one who's 14.
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BigJim®
Footballguy
Chicago being eliminated means they might as well run Forte into the ground and save Langford... except for the fact Langford really hasn't proven much yet and it is probably of greater value to the Bears future to see how Langford performs with a heavy workload before deciding Forte's FA situation or planning for the 2016 draft.
Forte obviously wants to get out on the field as soon as he's somewhat capable to boost his FA value, except his quotes imply he recognizes that rushing out there less than 100% he stands to risk his FA value underperforming due to injury, being injured worse, or being stigmatized in a 50/50 RBBC.
Coach Fox loves his vets and will surely play Forte as soon as he's healthy, but on the other hand he had to have ok'd Forte being on the trade block, he's won 2 straight somewhat sparked by this guy Langford, and knows his job security hinges on filling a lot of holes on this squad - something that re-signing Forte is not going to help accomplish.
I know this back and forth is fun, and what this board is about, but the vigor sort of surprises me. Everyone is spot on right with their logic, well except for the guy who said Carey is better than Langford... what's up with that?
Forte obviously wants to get out on the field as soon as he's somewhat capable to boost his FA value, except his quotes imply he recognizes that rushing out there less than 100% he stands to risk his FA value underperforming due to injury, being injured worse, or being stigmatized in a 50/50 RBBC.
Coach Fox loves his vets and will surely play Forte as soon as he's healthy, but on the other hand he had to have ok'd Forte being on the trade block, he's won 2 straight somewhat sparked by this guy Langford, and knows his job security hinges on filling a lot of holes on this squad - something that re-signing Forte is not going to help accomplish.
I know this back and forth is fun, and what this board is about, but the vigor sort of surprises me. Everyone is spot on right with their logic, well except for the guy who said Carey is better than Langford... what's up with that?
Biabreakable
Footballguy
What is an Ace Reporter?
Bucky Brooks works for NFL.com he is a former scout often discusses rookie prospects along side Daniel Jermiah.
I don't really have an opinion about his credibility. I just happened to see him saying this so thought I would share what he said. As always it is the responsibility of the reader to decide if the information is credible or not. What he said was merely his opinion.
I think Forte helps the Bears win and they should want to re-sign him. Both he and Langford could be used in tandem and both are good enough recievers that they could be used on the field at the same time. As long as Forte wants to return to the Bears I think the Bears would be wise to retain him. Even if he only has a couple good seasons left.
But what they ultimately do and what Forte wants are unknown to me. So perhaps Bucky and others are right that Forte will not be re-signed in 2016.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Just a bad joke leaking over from another thread. Some reporter reporting on lynch was referenced as an ace reporter and many of us imagined him as some sorta 1950's reporter.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Wise Old Owl
Footballguy
This is not how football teams get run. You don't save a young rb, you give them as many reps and experience as possible so they develop and also you can make evaluations
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
From a different angle, coaching staffs are judged based upon wins and losses. Their jobs are rarely safe, and their next jobs may or may not be there depending upon how many wins they are able to produce. For this reason, most staffs are going to want to win as many games as possible, even in a non-playoff season. They tend to put the best players on the field to get those wins.
BigJim®
Footballguy
Biabreakable
Footballguy
From a selfish Vikings fan perspective I hope the Bears let Forte go in free agency. One less weapon for the Vikings defense to worry about.
The Bears have been low on quality WR with all of their injuries. Forte can help make Gase's spread offense better.
The Bears have been low on quality WR with all of their injuries. Forte can help make Gase's spread offense better.
It's not just a Forte for Langford swap. They'll have millions of dollars to sign other players.
Short Corner
Footballguy
That was the original Jerry Jones strategy. Stack the o-line and churn thru RBs. That's why he y=thought he didn't have to pay Emmitt.JuniorNB said:
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
It was not a good move by Jerrah but its not the same situation as Forte. DeMarco Murray was the NFL leading rusher and two years younger and much cheaper than Forte. Add the Boys had Joseph Randle who had 'issues last year as the heir apparent and not a promising rookie who had blown up in his first two games like Langford has. It really was a poor strategy by the Boys and we have seen how its turned out for them.
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cracKer
Shawn Culcasi
Sorry to sidetrack for minimal details, had to look this up though. Ditka had 3 games as a rookie in '61 with over 109 yards. Guessing the stated "facts" were for RBs
Key difference was the Cowboys were playoff contenders with legitimate Super Bowl aspirations. Winning takes priority over development in that scenario, and expending assets that won't be back is a sound approach, on paper.JuniorNB said:
Chicago is, for all their improvement, unlikely to make the playoffs this year, so the focus ought to shift to development.
bill bates hits hard
Footballguy
I'm expecting ton more targets
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Choo choo
zamboni
Footballguy
boilerdave
Footballguy
Biabreakable
Footballguy
flapgreen
Footballguy
I hope so
bigbrownbag
Footballguy
Bears can't wait to get Forte back on Thursday
Underachievers
Footballguy
lolol
bigbrownbag
Footballguy
Because Langford isn't very good
yeah. We know what you meant. That's what you're being mocked.
flapgreen
Footballguy
What happened to your boy today? Before going down, Carey was the only back moving the ball.
flapgreen
Footballguy
Looked better today too bro
Didn't see the game but stats didn't look good.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Hard to start Langford tomorrow with Forte back. But I may just be desperate enough to flex him. It's either a boom or bust wide receiver, or Langford. Doubt we will have any idea on how many touches he's expected to get.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
I am stuck, I have to start Langford. My options are Starks (I'm already starting Lacy), Bradshaw or Charles Sims.
You could do worse. He's not a bad start. Forte is coming off an injury. I bet Langford still gets a few series, plus some third down work. And he's terrific at the goal line.
zamboni
Footballguy
I also think Langford will get some work, but I think more limited than many think if Forte is not feeling the effects of the injury and gets off to a good start.
Fox tends to be loyal to his vets, and this is actually a big game for the Bears in terms of playoffs. They are clearly on the outside looking in, but far from out of it yet.
Fox tends to be loyal to his vets, and this is actually a big game for the Bears in terms of playoffs. They are clearly on the outside looking in, but far from out of it yet.
flapgreen
Footballguy
He's still the lead back in Chicago. If he's healthy, he'll get the bulk of the carries. I'd have to have no other options to start Langford. Keeping him on the bench. The only thing you can hope for is a td, to break a long one, or Forte getting reinjured. Forte is a better receiver so he's not going to get a ton of receptions either. Bears fan
