The Official Kicker (K) Thread

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3 hours ago, Encumbrance said:

I doubt Vedvik makes it through waivers because of a few missed kicks. People were willing to give fifths and sixths for him. That shouldn't change over a few kicks.

Jets claimed Vedvik.

[SayWhat? 2,990]

The Vikings are so dumb.

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Bears coach Matt Nagy confirmed Eddy Pineiro has won the starting kicker job.

Their was some thought the Bears might have interest in Vikings castoff Kaare Vedvik, but instead the Jets snatched him off waivers, cementing Pineiro as the Week 1 starter. "He deserves it," said Nagy of Pineiro, who converted eight of his nine field goal attempts during the preseason. "He earned every right to be our kicker." Pineiro should at least be an improvement on Cody Parkey, who sunk the Bears' playoff hopes with a critical miss in last year's Wild Card loss to Philadelphia.

SOURCE: Larry Mayer on Twitter

Sep 1, 2019, 1:02 PM ET

 

[Leroy Hoard 9,613]

3 hours ago, Team Smokin' said:

Which kicker do you like better for this season?

Fairbairn

Gould

Elliott 

 

In my league Fairbaim finished as pk1. Not sure if anything has changed to at least keep him as a safe choice as this year's #6adp.

[VikingFrog 601]

18 minutes ago, Leroy Hoard said:

In my league Fairbaim finished as pk1. Not sure if anything has changed to at least keep him as a safe choice as this year's #6adp.

Fairbarn went early in our league. So he wasn’t an option. 

I like Elliot out of the other two as I think the Eagles are going to move the ball.

[SaintsInDome2006 41,439]

On 8/31/2019 at 5:38 PM, Choke said:

PK Austin Seibert Cleveland.

Browns cut K Greg Joseph

Liking this.

[Hot Sauce Guy 6,126]

19 hours ago, VikingFrog said:

Fairbarn went early in our league. So he wasn’t an option. 

I like Elliot out of the other two as I think the Eagles are going to move the ball.

He’s my pony until week 10. 

Fits much of my criteria. Good offense, late BYE, reasonably accurate from deep, and has a foot at the end of his leg. 

its rare that I save a K for after their BYE, but since my only K league is IDP there may be a marginal defensive player I can drop if Elliott proves worthy of a hold. 

Otherwise I’ll just grab someone who had an early BYE, preferably who kicks in a dome. 

[VikingFrog 601]

Just now, Hot Sauce Guy said:

He’s my pony until week 10. 

Fits much of my criteria. Good offense, late BYE, reasonably accurate from deep, and has a foot at the end of his leg. 

its rare that I save a K for after their BYE, but since my only K league is IDP there may be a marginal defensive player I can drop if Elliott proves worthy of a hold. 

Otherwise I’ll just grab someone who had an early BYE, preferably who kicks in a dome. 

I also own Wentz and Ertz. Elliot puts my Eagles investment to three. But I think I like the fact that he tacks on a extra point if those two connect. And gets a FG shot if they stall.

I mentioned it upward in this thread. Not sure how connected you want your kicker to your QB but sometimes it feels nice.

Theres obvious some drawback. 

No matter what, you want a kicker that’s getting a lot of shots and I think Elliot will. Even if I didn’t own Wentz.

[Ilov80s 20,114]

6 minutes ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

He’s my pony until week 10. 

Fits much of my criteria. Good offense, late BYE, reasonably accurate from deep, and has a foot at the end of his leg. 

its rare that I save a K for after their BYE, but since my only K league is IDP there may be a marginal defensive player I can drop if Elliott proves worthy of a hold. 

Otherwise I’ll just grab someone who had an early BYE, preferably who kicks in a dome. 

I don't get why he was ranked so low on most services. He was the no brainer target imo. 

[Hot Sauce Guy 6,126]

24 minutes ago, VikingFrog said:

I also own Wentz and Ertz. Elliot puts my Eagles investment to three. But I think I like the fact that he tacks on a extra point if those two connect. And gets a FG shot if they stall.

I mentioned it upward in this thread. Not sure how connected you want your kicker to your QB but sometimes it feels nice.

Theres obvious some drawback. 

No matter what, you want a kicker that’s getting a lot of shots and I think Elliot will. Even if I didn’t own Wentz.

Yeah, I have Wentz too, and that was my tiebreaker when selecting my K in the last round of the draft. I love the 7 pt TDs and if my QB fails inside the 40, chances are good I come away with 3-4-5 regardless. 

We do have a penalty for MFG inside the 30 though, so there will be a game or two when Wentz drives the team down only to result in -1, which will suck, but it's part of the "stack" (god almighty I hate that term)

[Hot Sauce Guy 6,126]

22 minutes ago, Ilov80s said:

I don't get why he was ranked so low on most services. He was the no brainer target imo. 

I agree - maybe for the same reason Wentz was an 8th round pick ranked ~8th QB. Dude has a strong leg, and is pretty accurate. Eagles should be a high scoring offense. Seems like he has top 5 potential, yet he went 27.08 in my 27 round draft. 

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Ok who snapped up Matt Bryant on waivers when he was announced as trying out for the Falcons besides me?

[VikingFrog 601]

7 minutes ago, pinkham13 said:

Ok who snapped up Matt Bryant on waivers when he was announced as trying out for the Falcons besides me?

I hope you didn’t actually use a waiver on a kicker. I value the heck out of my waiver position. Of course we likely have different waiver rules.

Regarding Bryant. He’s got a nice schedule, lots of inside games, and what looks to be a good offense. Plus he’s trusted within that organization.

At his age... There are questions on whether he can still hit the long 50+ FGs like he used to, which either means he won’t get those shots or won’t make them as much. That’s my only downside here I see.

I like him as a kicker on a strong offense and would have no qualms picking him up as a free agent.

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[PayneD 3]

I picked him up after he signed, 2 games outside during the ff season & that offense seems like a no brainier to me.

[Don Hutson 459]

6 minutes ago, VikingFrog said:

At his age... There are questions on whether he can still hit the long 50+ FGs like he used to

He hit 4 out of 5 last year.  He hit 8 out of 9 in 2017.  He hit 57 yarders both seasons.

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[VikingFrog 601]

8 minutes ago, Don Hutson said:

He hit 4 out of 5 last year.  He hit 8 out of 9 in 2017.  He hit 57 yarders both seasons.

Touché.

Probably just reading the yahoo update about his range declining and getting it stuck in my head.

[rockaction 14,566]

6 minutes ago, VikingFrog said:

Touché.

Probably just reading the yahoo update about his range declining and getting it stuck in my head.

That's likely Rotoworld's blurb. Never, ever trust those as gospel or you'll wind up sorely disappointed.

[VikingFrog 601]

Just now, rockaction said:

That's likely Rotoworld's blurb. Never, ever trust those as gospel or you'll wind up sorely disappointed.

Yeah I usually don’t. Just saying I probably read it when they signed him and I was trying to think through my kicker choice and then got it buried in my head that he can’t kick from a distance any more. It was a false analysis based on nothing so I was glad to be proven wrong.

[rockaction 14,566]

Just now, VikingFrog said:

Yeah I usually don’t. Just saying I probably read it when they signed him and I was trying to think through my kicker choice and then got it buried in my head that he can’t kick from a distance any more. It was a false analysis based on nothing so I was glad to be proven wrong.

If accuracy goes down from forty out, that's also range-indicative. I think Bryant's did. I could be wrong, too, as common narrative had his leg declining and common narrative is often wrong.

[KingPrawn 1,329]

Not sure between Bryant and the young kid from Carolina, Slye. What are the thoughts on Slye? I see he made several 50+ kicks in preseason 

[rockaction 14,566]

1 minute ago, KingPrawn said:

Not sure between Bryant and the young kid from Carolina, Slye. What are the thoughts on Slye? I see he made several 50+ kicks in preseason 

I'd honestly look at who has the better offensive volume in areas where field goals and XPs could be kicked. 

[Leroy Hoard 9,613]

The qb-K combo works even better with a lesser running game. Almost always getting a 7 or a 3-5,  instead of a single point.

[VikingFrog 601]

14 minutes ago, Leroy Hoard said:

The qb-K combo works even better with a lesser running game. Almost always getting a 7 or a 3-5,  instead of a single point.

Jake Elliott and Carson Wentz say hello.

[Mindofigor 1]

I have Vinatieri and not sure what to do with him. Colts have a lot of offensive talent so I think they'll be able to move the chains down the field and without Luck throwing the ball, perhaps they stall more often in the red zone, making Vinatieri a stud.  Or, the Colts team will fall apart and Vinatieri won't have as many opportunities.

Right now Gould is available, Seibert, Slye, Matt Bryant...

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[Mystery Achiever 782]

Every year is different, but Bryant and Gould solidly outperformed Vinatieri (with and without Luck) in the last two seasons.

[pinkham13 87]

2 hours ago, VikingFrog said:

I hope you didn’t actually use a waiver on a kicker. I value the heck out of my waiver position. Of course we likely have different waiver rules.

Regarding Bryant. He’s got a nice schedule, lots of inside games, and what looks to be a good offense. Plus he’s trusted within that organization.

At his age... There are questions on whether he can still hit the long 50+ FGs like he used to, which either means he won’t get those shots or won’t make them as much. That’s my only downside here I see.

I like him as a kicker on a strong offense and would have no qualms picking him up as a free agent.

So, I go to last man (10th) on waiver priority for week one. That’s a Small price to pay for an upgrade to my last choice in the draft. He’s a proven commodity.

[TheWinz 1,087]

2 minutes ago, pinkham13 said:

So, I go to last man (10th) on waiver priority for week one. That’s a Small price to pay for an upgrade to my last choice in the draft. He’s a proven commodity.

If you started as #9, sure, but if you had the top priority, bad move

[VikingFrog 601]

2 minutes ago, pinkham13 said:

So, I go to last man (10th) on waiver priority for week one. That’s a Small price to pay for an upgrade to my last choice in the draft. He’s a proven commodity.

I guess it depends how your waiver priorities work. But I would disagree. These first few weeks are some of the most important to hold a high position.

Everyone’s waivers and leagues and bench spots are different, so I can’t say it was the wrong decision. I would just hesitate to use a waiver priority on a kicker no matter what. 

[pinkham13 87]

16 minutes ago, VikingFrog said:

I guess it depends how your waiver priorities work. But I would disagree. These first few weeks are some of the most important to hold a high position.

Everyone’s waivers and leagues and bench spots are different, so I can’t say it was the wrong decision. I would just hesitate to use a waiver priority on a kicker no matter what. 

 

 

17 minutes ago, TheWinz said:

If you started as #9, sure, but if you had the top priority, bad move

Drafted last week. Yeah I’m in a league that after the deadline on Thursday morning it’s open season on the waivers. If you didn’t put a claim in that morning who ever wants an available player and claims him first gets him. Unlimited claims until the games start but yes the following week I’ll be at the bottom. Scantling Valdez and Carlos Hyde went undrafted in my 10 teamer so I picked them up too once I realized I’d drafted Lamar Miller with a torn ACL Lol!😁

[ratbast 138]

Gould early bye hurts. Bryant schedule is so good. Elliot is solid.

[Faust 3,676]

 

Titans placed K Ryan Succop (knee) on injured reserve.

Succop missed most of the offseason and training camp recovering from knee surgery. He was activated from the PUP list two weeks back but apparently still isn't right. The soon-to-be 33-year-old will miss at least the first eight weeks of the season before being eligible to return. Tennessee signed Cairo Santos to replace Succop.

SOURCE: Adam Schefter on Twitter

Sep 4, 2019, 10:02 AM ET

 

Titans signed K Cairo Santos.

Santos, 28, replaces Ryan Succop (knee), who was placed on injured reserve Wednesday. Santos is tiny at 5'8/160 and doesn't possess a big leg, but he is reliable inside 40 yards and on extra points. With the Rams and Bucs last season, Santos made 14-of-18 field goals with a long of 45 and 22-of-23 extra points.

SOURCE: Adam Schefter on Twitter

Sep 4, 2019, 10:04 AM ET

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Chargers K Mike Badgley (groin) is questionable Week 1 against the Colts.

Badgley suffered a groin injury at Friday's practice, so the Chargers might have to make a last-minute transaction depending on the severity. The Bolts' cursed special teams was fixed last season when Badgley emerged, but he can't be trusted Week 1 in fantasy lineups.

SOURCE: Daniel Popper on Twitter

Sep 6, 2019, 3:35 PM ET

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Chargers K Mike Badgley (groin) has been downgraded to doubtful Week 1 against the Colts.

Badgley was a late addition to the injury report after suffering a groin injury at Friday's practice. P Ty Long is expected to handle kicking duties.

SOURCE: Chargers on Twitter

Sep 7, 2019, 4:04 PM ET

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Chargers K Mike Badgley (groin) is out for Week 1 against the Colts.

Punter Ty Long will handle all the kicking. With Forrest Lamp expected to be limited behind LG Dan Feeney, special teams and questions surrounding Los Angeles' offensive line remain looming concerns in the Chargers' Week 1 matchup against the Colts.

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Ty Long

SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter

Sep 8, 2019, 7:41 AM ET

 

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Fantasy Football Kicker Primer: Week 1

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Vedvik with a missed extra point & wide right from 45 to end the half 

my opponent started him

[Stompin' Tom Connors 2,987]

Sucks to get a fat 0 from Bryant.

They ran into a buzz saw in MIN, and they still have a favorable kicking schedule, but hard not to look for other options.

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Adam Vinatieri costs Colts with three missed kicks in OT loss to Chargers

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Jason La Canfora of CBS Sports reports the Jets will work out kickers on Tuesday.

Kaare Vedvik cost the Jets by missing a 45-yard field goal and an extra-point in Sunday's loss to Buffalo. It's unclear who New York plans on bringing in, though Younghoe Koo and Cody Parkey, who both worked out for the Jets this summer, would seem to be logical candidates. Vedvik was claimed off waivers from Minnesota a week ago after failing to crack the Vikings' Week 1 roster. His stay in East Rutherford figures to be a short one.

SOURCE: Jason La Canfora on Twitter

Sep 9, 2019, 11:51 AM ET

 

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Saints: 'We all knew' Lutz would nail 58-yard FG

[The Man With No Name 781]

How many field goals and extra points were missed week 1?

How many week 1 last year?

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Jets waived K Kaare Vedvik.

Waived by the Vikings following an August of missed kicks, Vedvik proceeded to cost the Jets dearly in their season-opening, 17-16 loss to the Bills, shanking both a field goal and extra point. A combo punter/kicker, Vedvik has a unique skill-set, but it is not yet up to NFL standards. Sam Ficken will serve as the Jets' kicker going forward.

RELATED: 

New York Jets

SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter

Sep 10, 2019, 2:34 PM ET

 

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Jets signed K Sam Ficken.

Ficken will replace meme Kaare Vedvik, who cost the Jets a win in Week 1. A Rams fill-in each of the past two years, Ficken has converted just 3-of-6 career field goal attempts. He will be a bottom-barrel fantasy option as the Jets navigate their brutal early-season schedule.

SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter

Sep 10, 2019, 2:37 PM ET

 

[rockaction 14,566]

Sam Ficken is terrible and the Jets are costing themselves tens of millions of dollars in wins and other goodwill to save 1.7 million dollars or so. This is getting ludicrous. 

Edited September 10 by rockaction

[Mystery Achiever 782]

In his defense, the 1st day Vedvick got to kick at MetLife Stadium was Game Day. That couldn't have helped. 

[Joe Summer 7,423]

The Man With No Name said:

How many field goals and extra points were missed week 1?

How many week 1 last year?

2019: 61 of 63 PATs, 46 of 55 FGs (83.6%).

2018: 75 of 76 PATs, 46 of 54 FGs (85.2%).

2017: 44 of 48 PATs, 45 of 52 FGs (86.5%).

[Futz 434]

On 9/8/2019 at 5:13 PM, Stompin' Tom Connors said:

Sucks to get a fat 0 from Bryant.

They ran into a buzz saw in MIN, and they still have a favorable kicking schedule, but hard not to look for other options.

Totally agree. Perfect storm for a zero. I'm taking a deep breath and holding because not much has changed and he's got a favorable match up at home vs. Philthy. 

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Fantasy Football Kicker Primer: Week 2 (2019)

[Stompin' Tom Connors 2,987]

7 hours ago, Futz said:

Totally agree. Perfect storm for a zero. I'm taking a deep breath and holding because not much has changed and he's got a favorable match up at home vs. Philthy. 

I guess I am too -- not much else you can do as schedule overall is favorable.

It's not like he missed any, and I have to believe ATL doesn't have a game where they are solely going for 2s all the time.

But if he looks shaky or ATL continues to struggle on O against Philly and can't get him into position, bye bye.

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Chargers K Mike Badgley (groin) was limited at practice Wednesday.

Badgley appears to be progressing ahead of Week 2's matchup in Detroit, but his availability is still up in the air. We should know by Friday if Badgley is healthy enough to kick Week 2. Punter Ty Long will continue to handle all of the kicking if Badgley misses.

Sep 11, 2019, 6:57 PM ET

 

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Chargers K Mike Badgley (groin) is questionable for the team's Week 2 matchup against the Lions.

The kicker drama continues in Los Angeles. Badgley was at least able to practice all week. Punter Ty Long will continue to handle all of the kicking if Badgley is ultimately sidelined.

Sep 13, 2019, 3:33 PM ET