More entries/smaller wager or fewer entries/higher wager? (1 Viewer)

Hi all,

I'm new here so let me say first that this site is awesome!

As the title alludes to, I'm wondering which strategy would be better for cash games. Let's say that I'm going to spend $100 this week on double ups. Would it be wiser to play in 10 $10 games or 1 $100 game? It would seem to me that the 10 $10 would be better because I assume the competition might be a little weaker. However, going through my history from last year I found that I had more success in $100 games than $25 games (I didn't play any $10's).

Furthermore, if 10 $10's is the better way to go how many different lineups would you use?

Thanks in advance for any help!

From a pure enjoyment stand point, more line ups are better. You get to build more teams and you get to follow more players and potentially winning entries.

I'm not sure about what the stats and metrics people would say but that's my opinion.

I prefer to play more smaller contests but my personal data from last year didn't find any significant difference in winning score needed. I believe though that other players have done studies which show the score to cash does increase as the cost increases up to a certain point when it levels out. I will play multiple lineups but only about 3 different ones(for cash games) and there will be players in multiple(or all) of those lineups. Going with much more than 3 lineups leads to me playing lineups I clearly think are sub optimal which doesn't make sense.

David Dodds had a great deal of data last year on scores required to win at various price points. It's probably worth looking at that. It was on his blog I think.

Thanks for the feedback all. Tenn, I tried searching for it but haven't found it yet. I did come across his success rates last year over various http://50percentds.blogspot.com/2014/12/2014-fanduel-cash-game-results.html. What stood out is that he had the least amount of success in the $10 double ups.

If you do happen to come across the stats you referenced it'd be awesome if you could pass it along

Havi7 said:

Thanks for the feedback all. Tenn, I tried searching for it but haven't found it yet. I did come across his success rates last year over various http://50percentds.blogspot.com/2014/12/2014-fanduel-cash-game-results.html. What stood out is that he had the least amount of success in the $10 double ups.

If you do happen to come across the stats you referenced it'd be awesome if you could pass it along

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What I recall was something very similar to that, but with more of a discussion about the split between the $5 and $10 points in cash games. Maybe my I misremembered it though because that looks like the data I recall, but my recollection of the text is different than that.

Some of us started posting the amounts needed to win in our contests late in the year. If you search for the weekly FD threads on the Shark Tank forum you may find them. Seems like a couple of us started doing that in like week 14 or so.

Here's the data I could find quickly. Not nearly enough to make any meaningful assessments from this. I suggested that the group crowd-source this type of data last year because I think it's helpful. I echo that sentiment again this year.

Week 14:

[SIZE=10.5pt]Thursday --
2x ($5) 115.5 (1818 entries)
2x ($10) 122.22 (112)[/SIZE]
3x ($10) 128.5 (100)
5x ($5) 129.2 (223)

Sunday --
2x ($2) 1116 entries in each 4 total: 112.74, 113.4, 111.7, 112.64
2x ($5) 670 entries in each 7 total: 112.2, 110.4, 113.5, 113.4, 112.1, 110.2, 113.16
3x ($5) 402 entries in each 8 total: 119.1, 118.8, 120.6, 120.76, 117.8, 119.3, 120.6, 121.82
5x ($5) 335 entries in each 5 total: 126.32, 125.22, 125.66, 126.44, 126.9

And Week 15:

[SIZE=10.5pt]Thursday:[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]$2 Double-ups (558 entries in each) – 116.4, 113.68, 124.98[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]$5 Double-ups (223 entries in each) – 123.8, 123.58, 114.28[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]$5 Triple-ups (201 entries in each) – 123.78, 123.3[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]$5 Quintuple-up (223 entries) – 125.66[/SIZE]

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[SIZE=10.5pt]Friday:[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]$2 Double-ups (1116 entries in each) – 121.9, 121.78, 123.28, 120.4[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]$5 Double-ups (670 entries in each) – 124.8, 127.98, 126.78, 126.08, 126.88, 127.58, 128.48, 124.98[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]$2 Triple-ups (502 entries in each) – 129.88, 131.18, 128.38, 127.78, 122.98,[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]$5 Triple-ups (402 entries in each) – 126.98, 129.1, 131.1, 130.68, 128.28, 127.78[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]$5 Quintuple-ups (335 entries in each) – 137.8, 130.8, 132.5[/SIZE]

Thanks for putting in the effort and reposting that stuff!!!

I'd be all for the crowd sourcing too. Seems like it'd be easy enough to set up via Google Drive. Can set up a simple survey with fields for wager, Thurs/Sun, contest(2x, 3x, etc), entries, and min win. Then have them feed into a spreadsheet. Post the link on the board.

Love the idea. I'd be happy to set it up.

Havi7 said:

Thanks for putting in the effort and reposting that stuff!!!

I'd be all for the crowd sourcing too. Seems like it'd be easy enough to set up via Google Drive. Can set up a simple survey with fields for wager, Thurs/Sun, contest(2x, 3x, etc), entries, and min win. Then have them feed into a spreadsheet. Post the link on the board.

Love the idea. I'd be happy to set it up.

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I'm all for it. I will gladly share whatever data I acquire about contest results.

Single Entry ... Single entry cash games for the new player

Best advice I can give you is find the single entry events, as opposed to the multi entry cash games flooded by pro line-ups

And, if you're managing a lower weekly bankroll, lots of $1/$2 cash ... DU and 50/50 ... Hitting that mark.

jandyt said:

I prefer to play more smaller contests but my personal data from last year didn't find any significant difference in winning score needed. I believe though that other players have done studies which show the score to cash does increase as the cost increases up to a certain point when it levels out. I will play multiple lineups but only about 3 different ones(for cash games) and there will be players in multiple(or all) of those lineups. Going with much more than 3 lineups leads to me playing lineups I clearly think are sub optimal which doesn't make sense.

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In all of the games I did I found that the strike went up about 1 point per dollar amount. $2 games paid out a point higher than $1 games. $5 paid out a point higher than $2 games, etc, etc. I didn't play anything higher than $25 and the sample size was relatively small, but remarkably consistent from about week 3 onward.