dgreen
Footballguy
Idk. Most of what I see indicates Scot was a Kirk supporter. Maybe Kirk didn't know that, though. The conspiracy theory would say that maybe "they" led Kirk to believe that Scot didn't want him. Who knows? Too much ridiculousness.
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fatness
Footballguy
Female reporter (first name maybe "DeeDee"?) on NFL Network just said Cousins lost his biggest advocate in the front office.
This is her: http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/onairtalent/aditi-kinkhabwala
This is her: http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/onairtalent/aditi-kinkhabwala
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/09/report-kirk-cousins-will-sign-tag-expects-to-play-2017-in-washington/
If true that Cousins is ready to sign the tag, curious timing.
I don't necessarily but the narrative that Scot wanted Cousins but Allen did not. I still think there is a chance that Allen shafted Scot partially as part of an effort to get KC under contract.
Actually I agree w DGreen that it's likely that there is truth to BOTH he alcohol narrative and the Evil Bruce narrative. For some reason the media wants to just push one story but a lot could be going on here.
But the timing of this latest report is odd and I'm not sure it is a coincidence.
If true that Cousins is ready to sign the tag, curious timing.
I don't necessarily but the narrative that Scot wanted Cousins but Allen did not. I still think there is a chance that Allen shafted Scot partially as part of an effort to get KC under contract.
Actually I agree w DGreen that it's likely that there is truth to BOTH he alcohol narrative and the Evil Bruce narrative. For some reason the media wants to just push one story but a lot could be going on here.
But the timing of this latest report is odd and I'm not sure it is a coincidence.
Hang 10
Footballguy
One of the six players the WP interviewed said they've seen him out of control. What are the chances that was a one time deal? What kind of proof do you want?
fatness
Footballguy
Hang 10
Footballguy
Yeah, refresh my memory about that? That was certainly an embarrassing moment for Scot and the team. That could have been where thing started to go south.
What could Snyder possibly do to bring back fans now. Honestly I've never seen fans so disgusted.
Not even when Fat Albert was doing the worm in the Fed Ex turf.
Not even when he brought in a bingo caller to design plays.
Its like treating a girl bad. You can't do that forever. Eventually she really will leave.
Who knows what the truth is at this point. We also have limited proof regarding many things we believe that Allen did. Everyone just believes what they want to believe, on both sides, just like politics.
but yeah who the Hell knows
fatness
Footballguy
It makes sense to me thinking about it this way:
McCloughan wanted a longterm deal for Cousins, and Allen did not. McCloughan is being forced out. Then Cousins loses not 1 but 2 1000-yard WR's on the same day. Then he asks to be traded before he signs his tag. Snyder says no way, we'll only trade you if we want to. So to facilitate a trade Cousins decides to sign it.
Between now and the draft the team has the leverage. A team without a satisfactory (to them) starting QB, that is scared they won't get one in the draft, is likely to make their best offer for him right before or during the draft.
fatness
Footballguy
That was just his wife tweeting about some reporter Diane Rossi or something . I mean, it was definitely a sign that he may be living in the wild side. But I suspect a lot of folks in the NFL do
Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
Why would any free agent sign here? As an agent I'd never let my client walk into this sh!tstorm. Even if the Skins overpay, long term it's just stupid.
Hang 10
Footballguy
What kind of garbage is that? It doesn't even say "anonymous sources said" or "people around the team"...it sure as hell doesn't quote Cousins. This is why I can't believe half the #### the WP write about the Redskins. Their axe to grind is so obvious.
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fatness
Footballguy
I remember that. That was what McCloughan's wife called Diana Russini.edited to add funny link: http://deadspin.com/wife-of-skins-gm-apologizes-for-accusing-espn-reporter-1728376386
The NFL Network reporter was a different woman. http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/onairtalent/aditi-kinkhabwala
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fatness
Footballguy
I'm honestly not trying to be a #####; you're a good guy. But your axe to grind against McCloughan drinking is so obvious. Whether drinking affected his job or not.
Hang 10
Footballguy
fatness
Footballguy
Right I agree. Quoting the Washington post on any Redskins matter is not proof in my opinion. And I'm not defending Snyder here. But the Post reporters definitely position speculation as fact and many of us online lap or up like it's the truth.
Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
RG3 is available. Pretty sure Dan will bring him back.
Hang 10
Footballguy
What does that have to do with McCloughan? How can a journalist write a sentence like the one you quoted and not attribute to anyone? This is why the traditional media is dying.
fatness
Footballguy
The same way the other player "knew" McCloughan was drunk. Duh. You cherrypicked the one out of six you agree with.
"The team" is Dan Snyder and Bruce Allen, proven liars. Having power doesn't make them honest.
fatness
Footballguy
at Osweiler. Getting traded with a 2nd round pick to the Browns for a low pick, and the Browns are going to cut him. All they wanted was the 2nd rounder.Bruce is definitely a liar. Just two days ago he said Scot would be back as soon as he worked some #### out!
Hang 10
Footballguy
Obviously, no one knows exactly what happened. My guess is that if they fired McCloughan for cause, which they claim, they've got reasons documented. I guess they only way we'll know for sure is that things come out in a unlawful termination lawsuit.
fatness
Footballguy
Dude, you're relying on one out of 6 players said in that piece to make your argument. Are you saying what you relied on was crap? Or just the part you don't agree with?
Hang 10
Footballguy
They interviewed 6 players and 1 player corroborated what the team claimed. All 6 didn't have to see him drunk for proof.
fatness
Footballguy
Back to the Diana Russini article again, it is just hilarious. And the person looking the most stupid is Tony Wyllie (who of course is still with the team).
fatness
Footballguy
Hang 10
Footballguy
First of all, there's more than 6 players on a football team. 6 players isn't all the people in the Redskins organization. If one of that small sample size said they saw him drunk in the building, there was probably a whole lot more people that back up the teams account. Also, it's not like the other 5 said the one guy was lying. They just hadn't witnessed the same thing. That's not a contradiction.
Hang 10
Footballguy
Eye witnesses don't have to be unanimous. That's not cherry picking.
But like I said before, it's very doubtful that the team doesn't have documented proof if he was fired for cause.
fatness
Footballguy
fatness
Footballguy
fatness
Footballguy
Well since it won't affect day-to-day operation of the team, I'm just gonna get popcorn and enjoy the show.
And when in doubt, root against Snyder.
He's an upgrade for sure.
I do wish we would have kept Baker. He'll look At all the $ we saved by not resigning 2 WRs
But yeah I do think with some of these signings and a good draft the defense at least could take a step forwars
fatness
Footballguy
I realize people here don't like the Post, but Tesfatsion and Jones have done some pretty good reporting this year. I think some of the Post distrust/dislike is leftover from Jason Reid, who actually did a tremendous article on Allen if I remember correctly, but never missed a chance to bash the Skins.
yeah if doctson would get healthy we could roll with Pryor Reed crowder and doctson...that is not horrible though we could still add a burner
fatness
Footballguy
Oh good god Mrs. McCloughan is tweeting again. And since her hubby's no longer with the Skins she'll probably keep doing it. This could be a real #### show in itself.
Maybe Vinnie will chime in too, to make it better.
Maybe Vinnie will chime in too, to make it better.
dgreen
Footballguy
And somehow they got Reid to quit the Post and take a radio job at the team radio station...then they fired him.
I'm sorry I don't mean to trash the post. I do read it actually. I think I'm just distrustful of media generally. You know "fake news" and all. ?
fatness
Footballguy
If Doctson gets and stays healthy I'd like that receiving corps a whole lot. Pryor was good in Cleveland, and improving, and Cleveland sucks. And he's young.
2017 motto: Better than Cleveland!
Hang 10
Footballguy
The problem is the WP can't seem to separate their news articles from their editorials.
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