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nittanylion
Footballguy
I'm sorry, fellas. I share very little of the optimism regarding the last few days. I'll offer an explanation for my position when I have the time, but for now, here's to Day 3 yielding some decent players and a few unpolished gems.
Sebowski
Footballguy
Cheer up dude. Haskins, Sweat, and a WR who works his ### off that happens to run a 4.3 40.
Also, on lure draft pick value, we crushed the Colts on the trade up to get Sweat. Add to that that Sweat is a top 10 talent and there is nothing not to like about it.
We just need to not rush Haskins.
PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
Completely agree. Let him learn. Who knows, maybe Case will play well and we can get some value out of him. worst case we have a bad record and get better draft picks next year to really setup Haskins for success.
Of course, we all know that there will be huge pressure to start him. so i guess we will see.
No I don't think they have faith in those backups. I"m thinking their plan is in 2020 they won't be resigning AP or Chris Thompson so they draft Bryce now, give him a year if need be, and have him ready to roll with Guice in 2020.
PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
Sebowski
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BoltBacker
Footballguy
All the more reason they should have signed Tevin Coleman instead of AP if they didn't have AP/Thompson in their plans for 2020.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
People should remember that the Redskins passed on both Deionte Thompson at FS and Amani Oruwariye at CB to draft Love and Wes Martin. Seems odd to me as both Thompson/Oruwariye could have stepped in and helped right away.
I don't understand the folks that think the Redskins are fine in coverage as it stands right now.
I don't understand the folks that think the Redskins are fine in coverage as it stands right now.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
There must have been a reason he fell so far, but even if it was a medical/drug concern..... at this price it's a stand-up triple as the "safe" players on the board would be a long-shot just to make the team anyway.
If he's healthy and playing 16 games this season I wouldn't be shocked at all if he outproduced McLaurin and there's even a chance Harmon could end up leading the team in receiving.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
I wouldn't be surprised if Moreland makes the team. Doing a great job of taking swings on boom-bust picks late. I love the start and finish of this draft, not as big a fan of the middle.
PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
And in not so surprising news Doctson's option is not being picked up.
skinfanjon
Footballguy
Sideline to sideline guy. Despite good speed he stinks in coverage. He flashed a lot when he first got here but was mostly invisible last year, except when allowing third and 10 conversions. Won't miss him at all.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
Slash cut to Peterson getting dragged down by Brown near the LOS two games a year.
What he does, he does very well. But he won't be a three-down-LB as skinfanjon says and if the Eagles are counting on him as a replacement for Jordan Hicks they will be sorely disappointed. If they are planning on Brown being an upgrade to LJ Fort in the middle of the defense, they may end up very happy. So it's really a matter of perspective.
This just wasn't a great year for PHI to try to sign/draft a replacement for Hicks. I was really surprised at the contracts Mosley/Alexander/Hicks/Perryman/Baron all got. There's a reason PIT traded up for their MLB. Of the group of guys that were left PHI was smart to sign Brown imo.
I'm not a huge PFF guy but Rotoworld had this to say about him..."Brown doesn't turn 30 until after the season starts and graded out as Pro Football Focus' No. 3 off-ball linebacker out of 61 qualifiers last season, behind only Luke Kuechly and Bobby Wagner. After losing Jordan Hicks in free agency, Brown is a quality replacement in the middle of the Eagles' defense."
skinfanjon
Footballguy
Saw that blurb and well aware of his pff ranking. He is still a liability on the majority of snaps.
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I wasn't surprised and I wasn't disappointed either. In fact, even though we have been sorely lacking in WRs and also lost Jamison Crowder, I'm not sure it's the best thing to even start Josh Doctson this year. As a thought experiment, who would your 3 starting WRs be on the Redskins be this year.
I'm going to assume that they are thinking: Richardson, Doctson, Quinn are the top three, with McLauren, Harmon and Sims the next three (not in that order necessarily but situationally depending on what they are looking for...e.g. McLauren is a burner, Harmon is a big body who can muscle for an end zone ball...)
While I agree that Richardson and Quinn are worth starting, I'm not sold on Doctson over one of the rookies or Sims, who flashed potential last preseason before getting injured. Why not start the season with Richardson, Quinn and one of the young guys?
Here is an article where some are touting Harmon as a guy who could start sooner rather than later: https://redskinswire.usatoday.com/2019/05/05/clinton-portis-kelvin-harmon-redskins-no-1-receiver/
What do you guys think? I just can't stomach the idea of Josh Doctson taking all those snaps this year, just to see 3 catches for 40 yards per game along with 2-3 drops at crucial points to kill drives...
Don Quixote
Footballguy
John Keim
@john_keim
Reuben Foster down. Just carted off. Was in tears. Looked at by trainers. Left leg. Bruce Allen And Jay Gruden over with them
@john_keim
Reuben Foster down. Just carted off. Was in tears. Looked at by trainers. Left leg. Bruce Allen And Jay Gruden over with them
nittanylion
Footballguy
It's just unreal.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
Over/under on the number of infections after this surgery? It's getting morbid up in here.
That first day of the draft had you hoping things could turn around.
That first day of the draft had you hoping things could turn around.
skinfanjon
Footballguy
I ####### hate being a fan of this team but it's roots are too deep to ever quit.
Also this has gotta be one of the faster football Karma's of all time.
Also this has gotta be one of the faster football Karma's of all time.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Torn ACL for Foster.
Actually feel bad for the guy. Without the structure of football, he's kind of lost.
nittanylion
Footballguy
Super Bowl 17 replay on NFL network right now. I was 15 yrs old. Watching w/ my 15-yr-old step son. Ah, the Good Old Days...
DallasDMac
Footballguy
dgreen
Footballguy
DallasDMac
Footballguy
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
BoltBacker
Footballguy
.... but how many people were in the rowboat to start with, again? I hate riddles.Mingooch said:
PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
Apparently Trent wants to get paid or traded? They better get creative and figure this out.
ffmail4me
Footballguy
This is one place on the roster they can't screw up. They will pay the man. Gruden's presser he responded to "what are you missing with Trent not out there" he answered "the best lineman in football. They better get this done asap
PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
Yea i feel like it came out of no where but there is no choice. Dudes been the best player for us for years. Pay the man. Not to mention if you want to play the rookie you kind of need some protection. Not mad at him. Maybe we can get creative tho so that he gets paid and the team can still make moves.
skinfanjon
Footballguy
Sigh. Trent turns 31 in a month and is always battling a nagging injury, or worse. What do you think the Patriots would do with him? Give him a raise/extension or trade him for picks?
I love love love Trent. He's been a cold beast for most of a decade and punching Richard Sherman in the face gets you in my own personal ring of honor. But this team isn't close to contending and his (new) contract will be an albatross a year or two from now. He should be dealt to Houston or a similar type situation for picks.
I love love love Trent. He's been a cold beast for most of a decade and punching Richard Sherman in the face gets you in my own personal ring of honor. But this team isn't close to contending and his (new) contract will be an albatross a year or two from now. He should be dealt to Houston or a similar type situation for picks.
Sebowski
Footballguy
You probably aren't wrong. It's just terrible timing because they aslo need to lock up Schreff. He's going to get the biggest Guard deal in history.
skinfanjon
Footballguy
Sign Schreff tomorrow. Today even. Back the truck up, dudes in his prime.
I'm all for the importance of offensive line and resigning studs. Just not when they're 31. Sorry Trent. Hate to feel this way but we should move on or at the very least, not pull an Alex Smith here.
Sebowski
Footballguy
We have the best contract/cap guy in the business. Hopefully they work something else like only adding a year and moving most to guaranteed signing bonus or something.
skinfanjon
Footballguy
This is the funniest ####### thing I've read all week, thanks!Sebowski said:
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-redskins/alex-smith-3337/
Sebowski
Footballguy
Exactly. Now watch Eric Schaffer do his magic and not let that horrible decision hamstring the team.
PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
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DallasDMac
Footballguy
OK, well, bye then. Get what you can for him and move on. No need to keep a $12.5M locker room cancer.
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