"It's about time someone like that stands up," Moses said. "It's not just a situation here; it happens throughout the league. To have one of our peers like Trent to stand up like that means a lot.”OK, well, bye then. Get what you can for him and move on. No need to keep a $12.5M locker room cancer.
Do you think the Redskins would be interested in JaDeveon Clowney? And if so, what other draft picks do you think they could reasonably ask for?To be clear I don't want the Skins to move him, but if they do he better bring a massive haul. He really is arguably the best LT in the game.
Nah. They're already set at that spot and Clowney would want a lot of money. I'd take Fuller and a 1st in a heartbeat, but 31 year old players don't get 1st round picks back in trades. Skins would be looking at at a 2nd or 3rd. Maybe Fuller and one of the rookie linemen they just drafted?Do you think the Redskins would be interested in JaDeveon Clowney? And if so, what other draft picks do you think they could reasonably ask for?
And don't forget the drug suspension. I wouldn't expect to get a lot back in a trade but as you say..... they probably aren't going anywhere WITH him. People talking about Clowney or Fuller at tilting at windmills imo. Those are young ascending players making the Texans a legit contender in the AFC. Those players are WHY they would have interest in Williams at the end of his career. If they were to part with some picks and/or one of the developmental tackles on the Texans then WAS should jump at the chance.nittanylion said:When you factor in age and health, how long they'll have to extend him for, and the shape he'll be in by then, and the cap hit they'll take for eventually cutting him,....
I don't think the Texans want to get rid of Clowney, they would probably rather trade a 2nd and 3rd round pick to get Williams, but if push comes to shove, I think they would trade Clowney. Because of injury history, and I think because they don't want to have two huge contracts on the defensive line (they already have one with Watt), I think they would be willing to use Clowney to get a top notch LT. The ascending player on the Texans is Watson and keeping him healthy and productive should be their number one priority. In two seasons he has put up good numbers with an absolutely atrocious line. Think about what he could do behind a decent to good line.And don't forget the drug suspension. I wouldn't expect to get a lot back in a trade but as you say..... they probably aren't going anywhere WITH him. People talking about Clowney or Fuller at tilting at windmills imo. Those are young ascending players making the Texans a legit contender in the AFC. Those players are WHY they would have interest in Williams at the end of his career. If they were to part with some picks and/or one of the developmental tackles on the Texans then WAS should jump at the chance.
FWIW, it's not shocking to me at all that players would be questioning the Redskin medical staff. How many surgeries have Smith/Guice had to endure in the past year alone? Are we sure the Redskins have a medical staff or do they just send their players to a neighborhood clinic with a coupon? Brutal.
You know i hadnt thought about it like this. You are right. Get them on Hard Knocks next season!!Dodged the Hard Knocks bullet. I remain of the steadfast opinion that the savvy NFL marketing machine will avoid drawing any unnecessary national exposure towards the Redskins unless they are absolutely backed into a corner to do so. They know the Susan Harjo's of the world are just waiting in the wings to pounce, if given the opportunity to play their music on a limitless platform, and a PR disaster would ensue in short order that would force them to take a public stand on something they'd like left well enough alone.
While, to me, the name is a non-issue, I have major issues with Daniel Snyder, and it's unfortunate they aren't under the Hard Knocks lens. I'm a firm believer that sunlight is the best disinfectant, and there's a mountain of organizational disfunction that needs to be dragged out of hiding and put under scrutiny. The only way we're going to rid ourselves of that scourge is via a good, old-fashioned scandal. Sooner or later, something's going to come up - someone that unscrupulous almost has to have a skeleton or two buried back in the deepest recesses of the closet...but a national vetting ought to serve as a reliable modus for shortening that event horizon.
Send him some massage parlor coupons?Dodged the Hard Knocks bullet. I remain of the steadfast opinion that the savvy NFL marketing machine will avoid drawing any unnecessary national exposure towards the Redskins unless they are absolutely backed into a corner to do so. They know the Susan Harjo's of the world are just waiting in the wings to pounce, if given the opportunity to play their music on a limitless platform, and a PR disaster would ensue in short order that would force them to take a public stand on something they'd like left well enough alone.
While, to me, the name is a non-issue, I have major issues with Daniel Snyder, and it's unfortunate they aren't under the Hard Knocks lens. I'm a firm believer that sunlight is the best disinfectant, and there's a mountain of organizational disfunction that needs to be dragged out of hiding and put under scrutiny. The only way we're going to rid ourselves of that scourge is via a good, old-fashioned scandal. Sooner or later, something's going to come up - someone that unscrupulous almost has to have a skeleton or two buried back in the deepest recesses of the closet...but a national vetting ought to serve as a reliable modus for shortening that event horizon.
Teams with new coaches are exempt.You know i hadnt thought about it like this. You are right. Get them on Hard Knocks next season!!
He's got experience with Flowers
Picking him off the ground?
Don't forget they seem to be rolling into full bungle mode when it comes to Scherff. I defended the franchise when they just kept rolling along with the franchise tag for Cousins because, hey all competent QB's make a ton of $ and I think his MIN deal showed that was the case. If they plan on rolling along with the franchise tag on an interior OLman they have lost the plot. Scherff was actually one of their best draft picks, is in the prime of his career, and they can't simply extend the guy before it reaches this point? Are surgeries and contract extensions this difficult for all the rest of the teams in the NFL?So Ereck Flowers is now playing OT in place of Trent, backed up by Geron Christian who hasn't been on the field yet, they've signed Corey Robinson at OT and still want to sign Donald Penn, but cheap. At this time they appear screwed. They've terribly screwed up the situation with Trent and it doesn't seem repairable. They failed to keep Nsekhe. With the LT and LG situations they now have, Keenum and Haskins are going to get hit in the back an awful lot.
I did like some of the comments about Robinson at HogsHaven
Correct, the contract would toll and he would still have 2 year remaining.https://www.yahoo.com/sports/relationship-between-trent-williams-bruce-164335096.html
So if Williams sits out the entire year, I assume he remains under contract with the skins and isn't just free to go somewhere else?
Don't know much about Williams injury history or how chronic the injuries were, but Jason Peters made the ProBowl at age 31, 32, 33 and 34. Williams on-field performance shouldn't be a problem if he can stay healthy.Sign Schreff tomorrow. Today even. Back the truck up, dudes in his prime.
I'm all for the importance of offensive line and resigning studs. Just not when they're 31. Sorry Trent. Hate to feel this way but we should move on or at the very least, not pull an Alex Smith here.
Trey Quinn power spiked the football. Robert Davis heaved the ball so far and high that it landed well away from the practice area. On multiple occasions, Dwayne Haskins sprinted down a teammate for a big-play celebration.
There was plenty of revelry on the offensive side of the ball, as the unit clearly had its best day of camp.
“I think because we got whupped yesterday by the defense, guys just picked it up,” running back Chris Thompson said. “We had a lot of energy out there today. I don’t know, I just think things clicked and went our way today.
The team worked a ton of red zone periods with a large amount of success. All three quarterbacks — Haskins, Case Keenum and Colt McCoy — had strong showings, and Haskins had his best day. He was accurate, made good decisions with the ball and controlled things out of the huddle at the line of scrimmage. Those presnap responsibilities had not been his strongest attribute, but they seemed to go well Sunday.
Wide receiver Josh Doctson caught a couple of touchdowns during a short-field one-on-one period. Cam Sims continued to make spectacular catches. Davis’s celebration came after leaping over cornerback Adonis Alexander for a 20-yard touchdown. Rookie wide receiver Kelvin Harmon had a diving touchdown catch. Thompson looked quick and healthy.
Where have we heard this before?https://www.yahoo.com/sports/relationship-between-trent-williams-bruce-164335096.html
So if Williams sits out the entire year, I assume he remains under contract with the skins and isn't just free to go somewhere else?
Remember the anonymously-sourced report awhile back that Cousins had vowed never to sign a contract with the Skins as long as Bruce Allen was here? That was well before he became a free agent. Everyone denied it of course but it did ring true and that was the point at which I figured he'd never re-sign with the Skins.Jason La Canfora ✔ @JasonLaCanfora
As I reported months ago, relationship between Trent Williams and Skins is totally fractured. He doesnt trust Bruce Allen or the medical team there and made it known long ago he does not intend to play for them again
I wish, but I don't think so. A 2-14 or 3-13 season might do it, but we'll likely win 6 or 7 again and save Bruce's job while canning Gruden.PinkydaPimp said:Any chance Trent can get Bruce fires?
Signing Robinson and Penn is like signing Terrell McClain and Stacy McGee. "We'll get 2 mediocre players instead of 1 good one".Ian RapoportVerified account @RapSheet 3h3 hours ago
From Inside Training Camp Live: The #Redskins are preparing for 2019 without Trent Williams returning, and the signing of veteran LT Donald Penn speaks to that.
If he refuses to play for the team, which from all accounts seems to be the case, there isn't much else the team can do is there?Signing Robinson and Penn is like signing Terrell McClain and Stacy McGee. "We'll get 2 mediocre players instead of 1 good one".
At this time, I don't think so. They made several bad decisions along the way leading to this: Letting Ty go, drafting Christian too high when he's still not ready in his 2nd year, not knowing what was brewing with Trent until suddenly it was (or seems to be) too late, not enough decent backups. Similar to their inattention to the LG spot, which now also looks to be a weakness.If he refuses to play for the team, which from all accounts seems to be the case, there isn't much else the team can do is there?
Got kicked in the calf.Montez Sweat, who hurt his lower leg in the middle of last week and who'll be held out of action Sunday yet again, will be OK, per Gruden. The rookie's calf is still bothering him, but the head coach didn't seem to be more concerned than he was originally.
That sounds like a lot of missed time to me.Caleb Brantley, meanwhile, has a mild Lisfranc injury. Gruden didn't have a timeline yet on when the second-year pro will return, but those issues can be tricky and last quite a while.
I don't think he'll make the team.Adonis Alexander is going to miss a few weeks with a hurt quad. The former supplemental pick hasn't done much here, and his spot on the roster certainly isn't secure because of that. However, in a weird way, this injury could potentially save him; they perhaps could put him on IR and not have to decide whether to cut him or not.
Thats good news. I won't listen but I like Kevin. I was a huge 980 guy for years and years but with podcasts I just don't have the need anymore.fatness said:Unfortunately 980 is putting Kevin Sheehan back on the air weekdays from 7-10, starting tomorrow. I've heard enough of his droning to last a lifetime.
Top 3 WR's on depth chart are Doctson, Richardson, Quinn.So... Any word on the wr depth in practice?
JP Holtz being used as fullback. Samaje Perine on play before with a single cut and gone on the left side of he line. Troy Apke bit too hard coming down and was out of position when Perine got outside
Training Camp Schedule
Tuesday, Aug. 6 1:35 p.m. Practice
Saturday, Aug. 10 1:35 p.m. Practice
Sunday, Aug. 11 9:45 a.m. Practice
Preseason Schedule
Week 1 - @ Cleveland Browns — Thursday, August 8th 7:30pm
Week 2 - vs. Cincinatti Bengals — Thursday, August 15 7:30pm
Week 3 - @ Atlanta Falcons — Thursday, August 22 7:30pm
Week 4 - vs. Baltimore Ravens — Thursday, August 29 7:30pm
Redskins 2019 Schedule
Week 1: Sunday, September 8th 1:00pm(FOX) @ Philadelphia Eagles
Week 2: Sunday, September 15th 1:00pm(FOX) vs Dallas Cowboys
Week 3: Monday, September 23rd 8:15 pm(ESPN) vs Chicago Bears
Week 4: Sunday, September 29th 1:00pm(FOX) @ New York Giants
Week 5: Sunday, October 6th 1:00pm(CBS) vs New England Patriots
Week 6: Sunday, October 13th 1:00pm(FOX) @ Miami Dolphins
Week 7: Sunday, October 20th 1:00pm(FOX) vs San Francisco 49ers
Week 8: Thursday, October24th 8:20pm(FOX/NFLN/AMAZON) @ Minnesota Vikings
Week 9: Sunday, November 3rd 1:00pm(FOX) @ Buffalo Bills
Week 10: BYE
Week 11: Sunday, November 17th 1:00pm(CBS) vs New York Jets
Week 12: Sunday, November 24th 1:00pm(FOX) vs Detroit Lions
Week 13: Sunday, December 1st 1:00pm(CBS) @ Carolina Panthers
Week 14: Sunday, December 8th 1:00pm(FOX) @ Green Bay Packers
Week 15: Sunday, December 15th 1:00pm(FOX) vs Philadelphia Eagles
Week 16: Sunday, December 22nd 1:00pm(FOX) vs New York Giants
Week 17: Sunday, December 29th 1:00pm(FOX) @ Dallas Cowboys
https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2019/8/10/20800164/cleveland-browns-gave-redskins-a-heads-up-about-opening-driveWashington knew Cleveland would open the game with a two-minute offense, but were still powerless to stop the Browns.