Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Haven't been keeping up with this thread today because of the hurricane but why did it take the girl 30 years to all of a sudden come forward?
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IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Unfortunately this is true, and it's a strong argument for why we should go back to the old norms on SCOTUS nominees after this one. Considering what happened with Garland, Republicans have no right to complain if they lose this seat as a result of Kavanaugh getting sunk. But then it's time for folks to realize how dysfunctional this system is. You are 100% right that a large number of Republicans would vote to confirm a known sex offender if the alternative is losing the seat, which is exactly what's at stake in the midterms. It's much better if the president can withdraw a bad nomination and send up somebody better instead.
Sand
Footballguy
That's a political lynching, given the tone and tenor of the proceedings. Heck, even RBG has expressed her thoughts on how awful this process is.
Challenge Everything
Footballguy
Kavanaugh went to a forward thinking Progressive school that welcomed the LGBTQ community openly.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
I remember the 80s. Never tried to rape anybody.HellToupee said:
it was the 80s
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
the rover
Footballguy
Henry Ford
Footballguy
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
And before squistion reports another, i am not being serious.
Hilts
Footballguy
Going on a tangent here, but speaking of both the 80's and rape, 'Revenge of the Nerds' sure hasn't aged well. I saw it again not long ago and damn those nerds are pretty awful people whose characters probably should have faced a lot of criminal charges. The jocks were the real heroes trying to protect their community from these incels.
the rover
Footballguy
Henry Ford
Footballguy
And then if someone did I should be forced to confront the allegation under oath. And once I do I expect people would check into my history of testifying under oath and see if I had a tendency to tell the whole truth and be forthcoming.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Best part of all this. “He denies it!”
Yeah, but he apparently has been lying to Congress under oath for about twelve years, so.... let’s all hold off and see how this goes.
Yeah, but he apparently has been lying to Congress under oath for about twelve years, so.... let’s all hold off and see how this goes.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
In very few of my romantic encounters, all consensual, did I feel the need, or did the female want, to have one of my buddies in the room or area. In fact, generally we wanted to be alone absent a few 3 way scenarios that still never involved one of my male friends.
While there may have been times I wished my date or partner would shut the hell up I never had cause to put my hand over their mouth.
There are not 65 folks who would rally to testify about my character if a call went out for 30 consecutive days.
While there may have been times I wished my date or partner would shut the hell up I never had cause to put my hand over their mouth.
There are not 65 folks who would rally to testify about my character if a call went out for 30 consecutive days.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
You have a much longer memory than I if you can remember a time when politicians put “country over party.”
sho nuff
Footballguy
Megaton
Footballguy
Anyone who thinks he has an obligation to answer to this. Anyone who refers to him as a rapist or attempted rapist. Anyone thinking the Republicans are the ones looking bad here. Pretty much all the usual posters on this forum.
There can be only two reasons that the Dems acted in such a pathetic manner (again).
- It was a Trump appointment so they had to resist at all cost....even at the cost of their own integrity (for those who may still have some remaining)
- The Dems cannot imagine a world where men in a position of authority do not take advantage of the women with whom they come in contact therefore, Kavanaugh MUST be a pig.
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Henry Ford
Footballguy
Saying someone needs to respond to an allegation or saying we should wait and see if other accusers come forward is not taking something as gospel.
bigbottom
Footballguy
As a general matter, I think integrity is currently in short supply on both sides of the aisle when it comes to Supreme Court nominations.
There can be only two reasons that the Dems acted in such a pathetic manner (again).
I vote...both.
- It was a Trump appointment so they had to resist at all cost....even at the cost of their own integrity
- The Dems cannot imagine a world where men in a position of authority do not take advantage of the women with whom they come in contact therefore, Kavanaugh MUST be a pig.
Megaton
Footballguy
When we know who, what, when and where from a confirmed source we will have an allegation. Right now we have second-hand partial knowledge of some alledged letter that anyone could have written to derail the process.
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Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
What if the letter wasn’t anonymous?
What if the reaction wasn’t “gospel”, but “since we’re interviewing this guy for a job he might hold for 40 years in one of the most powerful seats in the country, maybe we should take a week or two to investigate this just to make sure we’ve got the right guy”.
What if what you posted was “unbelievable” because it didn’t reflect reality?
Megaton
Footballguy
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
The Senate Judiciary Committee knows who, what, when, and where. The person who wrote the letter met with their Congressperson and one of their Senators in person to discuss the contents of it. And delivered it months ago.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
I don't think that means taking it as gospel...but yes, he probably should have to answer about several things.
And yes...the Republicans do look bad (that doesn't meant the dems don't also)...but given their behaviors regarding the SC in the past...trying to act as if questions like this are not relevant is a bad look.
And I see losing your Jon account does not stop you from continuing to make overly generalized statements about posters here.
Henry Ford
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Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Not sure why you feel the need to be a smart ###. It's a legitimate question. Assuming this really did happen to her, why did she wait 30 years? What made her decide to all of a sudden go public?
Henry Ford
Footballguy
The guy who tried to rape her whom she’s been discussing in therapy for 30 years is being nominated to a lifetime appointment where he gets to decide whether women get to control their own bodies.
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parasaurolophus
Footballguy
Will the accuser remain unnamed, at least to him?
A week or two? Lol. You sell out your true motivation.
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
So the alleged attempted rape wasn't that important for all the other years he was a judge and this is an attempt to block him for being on the SCOTUS?
Henry Ford
Footballguy
I haven’t spoken with her. But this post is a great example of why women don’t come forward.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
His post said “assuming this really did happen”
So my response assumed it really did happen. No one is taking this as gospel.
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sho nuff
Footballguy
Henry Ford said:
Henry Ford said:
Henry Ford said:
Yes...because of posts like the above and his other thoughts that have been made pretty clear...things you should probably read before commenting as you just did. Plus his latest reply to you shows what he is saying...HTH
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
I asked why it took her 30 years to come forward and you said so the guy won't be on the SCOTUS. And you're blaming me? Take a break, Ford.
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
I think you are focusing on the wrong thing. Sometimes people dont want to come forward, it happens. The more important point here is we are talking about a situation from forever ago when they were both 17 and probably both drinking( even though of course i dont think they have mentioned that she was drinking, but how could we know for sure all these years later). So many grey area possibilities here. Especially when one thing that is an almost absolute among people is that their account of a situation puts them in the best light. Memories also morph quite a bit over time.
Oh and in addition we are getting a third hand account of these details.
By making a big deal of it and putting it in the news for 2 more weeks isnt a legit endeavor. It is literally impossible to get to the bottom of this.
timschochet
Footballguy
Let’s assume for a moment that the Kavanaugh supporters in this thread and elsewhere are correct and that this accusation is completely false; it never happened.
If so, then there’s two ways for the Republicans to handle it:
“Attempted rape is a serious accusation. We have strong doubts that it ever happened, but nonetheless we’re going to investigate because we want to be absolutely sure. (A week later). We’ve investigated and determined there’s nothing to this. We’re moving forward.”
or
“Screw you. This is just partisan crap. It’s all lies. We don’t need to investigate; we know. Let’s push through this vote right now and anyone who doesn’t like it, too bad.”
The Republicans are seemingly choosing the second approach. I don’t think it’s a wise choice, either politically or morally for that matter. I think they will regret it.
If so, then there’s two ways for the Republicans to handle it:
“Attempted rape is a serious accusation. We have strong doubts that it ever happened, but nonetheless we’re going to investigate because we want to be absolutely sure. (A week later). We’ve investigated and determined there’s nothing to this. We’re moving forward.”
or
“Screw you. This is just partisan crap. It’s all lies. We don’t need to investigate; we know. Let’s push through this vote right now and anyone who doesn’t like it, too bad.”
The Republicans are seemingly choosing the second approach. I don’t think it’s a wise choice, either politically or morally for that matter. I think they will regret it.
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
No it doesnt. He has referred to somebody as cosby. He has said minimizing this is the worst thing on the internet. He doesnt get to have his cake and eat it too. Dont be a sucker.
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
You could be right. But I think you have to try anyhow. It’s a lifetime appointment.
