This. He can't catch passes downfield. Seems to get lost when trying to track the ball. Hard to see huge upside for him.Would sell him for any 2nd rounder I could get, but I like WR's that can play WR usually. He's a great athlete but not sure he'll ever be more than that or be startable in fantasy.
Really?Last year he was a trendy sleeper pick to stash in deeper leagues even though his critics predicted (accurately as it turns out) that he would a dead roster space for several years before you found out exactly what you had with him. In what action we did see last season, he was not particularly impressive.
The up and coming player in GB to own is not Montgomery IMO but Jeff Janis.
Really. Check out the Ty Montgomery thread that EFF started. There seemed to be a tone of disillusionment near the end of the season, not only that he was injured but that he didn't meet everyone's lofty expectations.Really?
As a rookie he was getting action early in the year. In week 2 he caught 4 balls on 4 targets.
6 weeks into the season he caught 15 of 19 targets for 136 yards and 2tds.
What were you hoping to see out of him in limited action? I would argue that he was trending up and had he not been injured he may have even showed more.
He has a fairly high ceiling and looked like a legit NFL wr.
What does that thread have to do with you saying he was not impressive and you would have to wait years to see anything from him?Really. Check out the Ty Montgomery thread that EFF started. There seemed to be a tone of disillusionment near the end of the season, not only that he was injured but that he didn't meet everyone's lofty expectations.
People were saying the same thing there. And there are numerous mentions of his past issues with stone hands (although he did look a little improved in that respect).What does that thread have to do with you saying he was not impressive and you would have to wait years to see anything from him?
I think that's a pretty solid deal.In a 32-team dynasty where WR value is ridiculously high, I just gave my 3.32 and 2017 2nd (mid-late round, hopefully) for Montgomery. Feel pretty good about it.
Still hanging onto some misguided predraft thought even though you were proven wrong....such a cancerous thought for dynasty folks, so so common.People were saying the same thing there. And there are numerous mentions of his past issues with stone hands (although he did look a little improved in that respect).
My league is an odd one, we do auction draft and the price we pay for a player goes up by 10% each year max of 3 years kept. I have him for $1 so i guess im getting nit picky.Would sell him for any 2nd rounder I could get, but I like WR's that can play WR usually. He's a great athlete but not sure he'll ever be more than that or be startable in fantasy.
yah adams is just horrible but with jeff janis and Jared Abbrederis showing signs i have no idea if he has a chance even if the guys in front of him do anything.Even as early as training camp last season I was reading stuff that said the Packers staff was higher on him than Adams and I agree with the previous poster who indicated had he not got injured last year he probably would have showed a lot and his value would have soared.
But he did get hurt in a year he had opportunity served up to him on a golden platter. Only Jordy and Cobb are proven but with Janis at least looking like he should get on the field and possibility Adams does not just go away it's a bit crowded. Cobb in particular is an issue as they do a lot of similar things and not sure either are outside WR's. They also have been quoted as saying finding a bigger threat to work the middle of the field as a priority, though I think if they had their way they would find this player at the TE position.
So he's got a chance and all you need for value in Green Bay is to crack the top 3 WR's and even if he fails to win that role they usually have injuries every year.
In terms of his trade value I'd still jump on getting a second for him. I've shopped him all around for an early third and got struck down.
i think janis could profile as a stud elite WR as i see ty as more of a randall cobb type. I actually drafted both but ty being on special teams kept him active and i needed a roster spot and ended up cutting janis.Last year he was a trendy sleeper pick to stash in deeper leagues even though his critics predicted (accurately as it turns out) that he would a dead roster space for several years before you found out exactly what you had with him. In what action we did see last season, he was not particularly impressive.
The up and coming player in GB to own is not Montgomery IMO but Jeff Janis.
Rodgers has had this same "path" the past two years and failed to have much fantasy relevance. The team performance has very little to do with Rodgers production as evidenced by 2014. The Pack was one onside kick recovery away from a Super Bowl and Rodgers barely registered on the fantasy radar. What makes you think 2016 will be different?Personally i wish i had held on to richard rogers more he has a more direct path to success as i assume he will likely be the starter next year as well and I see GB as being a prime bounce back situation
Tight ends generally take some time to be fully productive at the NFL level - moreso than any other skill position.32 Counter Pass said:Rodgers has had this same "path" the past two years and failed to have much fantasy relevance. The team performance has very little to do with Rodgers production as evidenced by 2014. The Pack was one onside kick recovery away from a Super Bowl and Rodgers barely registered on the fantasy radar. What makes you think 2016 will be different?
and that is the issue, i only have a 3 year window to keep him. So do we think he is a viable wr2-3 by 2017 season?I like what I saw from Ty. The biggest issue is short term Jordy and Cobb are the main targets. Adams was a high pick. Janis looked good in the playoffs. Abberderis also had some moments. It's going to be tough to sort out WR 3-6 on this squad and playing time might be limited for a while meaning you may have to hold a while to know what you really have.
5 targets per week isn't gonna get it done. He's treated like a normal TE not someone special. This is certainly not Favre's TE friendly offense but one loaded at WR. More often than not, it seemed he only had 1 or 2 targets outside the red zone. I don't have stats to support this (surely they are out there somewhere) but his role is about red zone TE. Very limited for FF. A TD can make him serviceable, points wise, to cover a bye but anything else is 'pushing it.'32 Counter Pass said:Rodgers has had this same "path" the past two years and failed to have much fantasy relevance. The team performance has very little to do with Rodgers production as evidenced by 2014. The Pack was one onside kick recovery away from a Super Bowl and Rodgers barely registered on the fantasy radar. What makes you think 2016 will be different?