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I would've liked it more if it was some mystical connection they had like Luke and Leia, Luke and Vader etc. Instead it was just snoke acting as their IT coordinator and connecting their force PCs overseas.
Yes but I think most of the new fanbase they are seeking doesn't give a flip about or hasn't seen the prequels. Either way, seems to me they wanted to re-iterate that.
The porg scene with chewie trying to eat one was funny. I thought they were fine.
Pretty much. Plus It wasn't just that they made her random powerful force user, it's that they seemed to go out of there way trolling people into thinking something meaningful was coming (the meditation scene, connection to Ben, the mirror room) and then just go nope, gotcha! She's a random nobody force user. Aren't we clever.
Yes the Leia scene was cringe worthy and I thought that was a perfect time to get rid of that character.
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). However, I went into this movie with my sons who are 15 and 16. It was boys night out and I just wanted a fun time for us. And you know what? I got it. Yes, the adult in me could find the stuff to beef about, but at the end of the day, another generation of my family has enjoyed the Star Wars franchise and will (hopefully) have memories of me taking them when they take their kids to Star Wars 24. 
I have found every single Star Wars movie (except Attack of the Clones) fun.
I agree, its like Johnson and Abrams have some feud about the direction of the story. The Casino planet with the horses was 100% totally unnecessary as was the fat girl trying to get with Finn. They should have shaved 45 minutes off this puppy.
30 mins on previews. Some interesting movies. Plus it had infinity wars preview again which was well done.
I'm not even the biggest fan of the marvel movies but that is a triumph in that they got like 8-10 movies to flow up to this point over 10 years and keep the storylines intact.
There is an interesting discussion/theory floating around right now about this.
I don't have a grudge against anyone having an opinion but when reading a thread like this I am just so glad I can go to movies and enjoy them. It has to absolutely suck to constantly go to movies and hate them.
I thought he lied. Wasn't till the end of the movie that I thought maybe Johnson just doesn't give a #### about it though.
It’s odd how it seems like there was no real outline for the entire trilogy. I find it really strange that they let another writer/director pen the all important 2nd part of the trilogy after part 1 was already told. I read an interview with Johnson and he said how he really focused on the flashback from TFA in order to get her background right. Maybe I’m missing it but someone tell me what he learned or used from that flashback to enhance her storyline.
Luke explained it to Rea as a flash of emotion that swept over when when he looked into Ben's mind and saw how completely it had been taken by the dark side. He also said it passed in a moment, but not before Ben saw him standing over him with his Lightsaber drawn.
I read a few years ago that JJ did the entire outline but the second director has some ability to add things in. But it seems like the entire plot is mapped out. Maybe Rian just said can I punt this parenthood story to you, or maybe JJ wanted to cover it?It’s odd how it seems like there was no real outline for the entire trilogy. I find it really strange that they let another writer/director pen the all important 2nd part of the trilogy after part 1 was already told. I read an interview with Johnson and he said how he really focused on the flashback from TFA in order to get her background right. Maybe I’m missing it but someone tell me what he learned or used from that flashback to enhance her storyline.
Fair enough, I didn’t know that about J.J. Eveything Johnson seems to say is that he had free reign to do whatever he wanted and met often with the the Lucasfilm people to get their approval/blessing for the history/backstory of what he was telling. I guess he had a basic plot line to follow and everything else was his. Will be interesting to see what they do in IX, I don’t really see too much story left to tell worthy of a 2+ hour movie.
We all left the theater surprised that it was not a little more of a cliff hanger to lead into 9. With Fisher being set up as a key player and now passing, JJ and the writers might have to go in a different direction a bit. I have no idea what 9 is going to be about outside of building to an eventual Rey and Kylo confrontation.
certainly seemed like he focused on the little girl being sold to the junk dealer part of the dream to focus on the "you are no one" theme.. Maybe I’m missing it but someone tell me what he learned or used from that flashback to enhance her storyline.
They are down to the falcon and like 6 people. One who is already dead and doesn't know it yet.
Yes, reading some of the posts it seems like there is a lot of people genuinely offended by some of the weaker parts of the movie. I agree that Flying Leia was horrible and the casino scenes/Finn and Rose pairing fell flat, but the good was spectacular and outweighs the bad. And I am thankful for the years of fun and family bonding that this series has/continues to provide. I look forward to seeing it again next week when I visit my mom. Not a lot of entertainment out there where Grandma/son/grandkids can go spend time together and everyone is equally pumped.
Maybe Han and Leia are her parents too and he was making with the sonly angst in that scene. They are no one to HIM because he's all angst-y and teen agery and they should be no one to her because they sold her to a junk dealer. And when he sees that she really doesnt know he makes up that stuff about them beng dead and buried in pauper's graves.
This is where they have kind of a tough job. No one across the galaxy came to answer their distress signal, they all lost hope. Rey is that hope, but they have to basically use her as propaganda to get that support throughout the galaxy again, kinda like Katniss in Hunger Games.
You seem really angry about all this.
He had almost nothing to do with that show other than being part of the idea at first and being a producer. Dude wasn't writing the crap storylines from season to season. Abrams has a far far greater catalogue of movies he's made that contradict what you're saying--plenty of satisfying conclusions. You're looking for things to complain about.
So you think it was just a coincidence that there was bunch of mystery and lore that was written into TFA that went nowhere? Fine believe what you want.
