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***Official PSF Moderation Thread*** (1 Viewer)

GoBirds said:
It’s really too bad there isn’t more of @David Dodds around so not all in control are so far to one point of view. When everyone has strong opinions on one side and want to hear those that support what they think it’s not realistic that moderation will be fair. But to their credit Joe was honest back when Bruce D (who I’m sure is still around and was one of multiple aliases) was personally attacking anyone not on the left that those considered good posters by mods are ok to be treated different. Like posted upstream, it’s their board and nothing saying it had to be fair which is true. 
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Almost every time Dodds will post there's at least one troll that replies with a pizza reference.  David is apparently a pretty good dude and takes it but when you let people treat one of the owners that way in the PSF then what do you really expect is going to happen?  

I can agree with a lot of what Maurile has posted in this thread but I do find it laughable that he said " the worst offenders tend to be disproportionately on the pro-Trump side".   There are dozens of horrible posters that are anti-Trump but I'm sure that his bias getting in the way as he even admitted occurs.  Also, a good poster to someone is a horrible poster to someone else.  I could name several posters that are horrible, IMO, but they are clearly smart dudes capable of discussion.  They just insist on driving and winning every discussion and quickly hit the name calling when someone doesn't see things their way.   

Anyway we do this thread every couple of months.  Nothing changes

 
Ramblin Wreck said:
I can agree with a lot of what Maurile has posted in this thread but I do find it laughable that he said " the worst offenders tend to be disproportionately on the pro-Trump side".
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I feel like I'm on pretty safe ground with that statement. The ratio of anti-Trump to pro-Trump people here is, what, 8-1? (I don't have the poll results memorized and I'm on my phone so I don't want to look them up.)

I can easily name more than two pro-Trump posters who are pretty bad at engaging honestly on substance. It is far harder to name more than sixteen anti-Trump posters who are as bad.

 
Ramblin Wreck said:
Almost every time Dodds will post there's at least one troll that replies with a pizza reference.  David is apparently a pretty good dude and takes it but when you let people treat one of the owners that way in the PSF then what do you really expect is going to happen?  

I can agree with a lot of what Maurile has posted in this thread but I do find it laughable that he said " the worst offenders tend to be disproportionately on the pro-Trump side".   There are dozens of horrible posters that are anti-Trump but I'm sure that his bias getting in the way as he even admitted occurs.  Also, a good poster to someone is a horrible poster to someone else.  I could name several posters that are horrible, IMO, but they are clearly smart dudes capable of discussion.  They just insist on driving and winning every discussion and quickly hit the name calling when someone doesn't see things their way.   

Anyway we do this thread every couple of months.  Nothing changes
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Owner or not there is no other side to that pizzagate stuff.

That is the type of thing that is dangerous to propogate. We are doing the other owners a favor highlighting this. 

 
Ramblin Wreck said:
Almost every time Dodds will post there's at least one troll that replies with a pizza reference.  David is apparently a pretty good dude and takes it but when you let people treat one of the owners that way in the PSF then what do you really expect is going to happen?  

I can agree with a lot of what Maurile has posted in this thread but I do find it laughable that he said " the worst offenders tend to be disproportionately on the pro-Trump side".   There are dozens of horrible posters that are anti-Trump but I'm sure that his bias getting in the way as he even admitted occurs.  Also, a good poster to someone is a horrible poster to someone else.  I could name several posters that are horrible, IMO, but they are clearly smart dudes capable of discussion.  They just insist on driving and winning every discussion and quickly hit the name calling when someone doesn't see things their way.   

Anyway we do this thread every couple of months.  Nothing changes
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:goodposting: Totally agree on both.  

 
Maurile Tremblay said:
I feel like I'm on pretty safe ground with that statement. The ratio of anti-Trump to pro-Trump people here is, what, 8-1? (I don't have the poll results memorized and I'm on my phone so I don't want to look them up.)

I can easily name more than two pro-Trump posters who are pretty bad at engaging honestly on substance. It is far harder to name more than sixteen anti-Trump posters who are as bad.
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I suspect the "disproportionally" was misinterpreted as "There are many more bad Pro-Trump posters, than bad Anti-Trump posters."

 
Maurile Tremblay said:
I feel like I'm on pretty safe ground with that statement. The ratio of anti-Trump to pro-Trump people here is, what, 8-1? (I don't have the poll results memorized and I'm on my phone so I don't want to look them up.)

I can easily name more than two pro-Trump posters who are pretty bad at engaging honestly on substance. It is far harder to name more than sixteen anti-Trump posters who are as bad.
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Sounds like a challenge. Although I know you really don’t want me to I can name quite few.  I’m also curious how many people on your list really aren’t pro trump. 

 
tonydead said:
Sounds like a challenge. Although I know you really don’t want me to I can name quite few.  I’m also curious how many people on your list really aren’t pro trump. 
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Yeah, let's not name names of the people we want to criticize. I think I'm generally decent (but not perfect) at knowing where people are coming from. I definitely do not include you, jon, cowboy, shader, noonan, wreck (I'm leaving plenty out) as people who support Trump or as people who shy away from substance. But it's still easy to fill up a hand's worth of fingers of people within the intersection of that Venn diagram.

On the anti-Trump side, it's easy to come up with a few people ... but it's a smaller list than the first one, in my estimation.

 
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Ramblin Wreck said:
Almost every time Dodds will post there's at least one troll that replies with a pizza reference.  David is apparently a pretty good dude and takes it but when you let people treat one of the owners that way in the PSF then what do you really expect is going to happen?  
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How is it "trolling" to point out that Dodds posted a fabricated claim that another business was harboring child porn?

 
Maurile Tremblay said:
Yeah, let's not name names of the people we want to criticize. I think I'm generally decent at knowing where people are coming from. I definitely do not include you, jon, cowboy, shader, noonan, wreck (I'm leaving plenty out) as people who support Trump or as people who shy away from substance. But it's still easy to fill up a hand's worth of fingers of people in both those groups.

On the anti-Trump side, it's easy to come up with a few people ... but it's a smaller list than the first one, in my estimation.
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Well Sinn said “bad” posters. If that’s the criteria then maybe. But I can name more “snarky” liberals than I can name trump supporters as a whole. And if we go with “factual” then Its probably the majority of both sides. 

 
Ramblin Wreck said:
[scooter] said:
How is it "trolling" to point out that Dodds posted a fabricated claim that another business was harboring child porn?
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It's not if he's talking about Pizzagate.  It is if he's posting about something totally unrelated and that's used as the "Gotcha" on him
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First off, that does not meet either Joe's or Maurile's definitions of "trolling".

Secondly, when a user has a history of posting poorly-sourced (or fabricated) claims, then it is absolutely fair game to mention his history when he does it again and again and again in other political threads.

I would agree that it's inappropriate to yell out "PIZZAGATE!" in the Shark Pool, but that's not happening here.

 
If bringing up Pizzagate is the t word...what is constant reference to kaepernick in order to get under the skin of another poster?  What is a group of people posting pigeons in their avatars?

Or bumping an old thread from Joe when you aren’t involved in a conversation?

Or following a poster around who asked you to stop and has told you over and over they won’t reply to you?

The ones complaining most about things bringing down this board have been just as guilty of it as anyone.  And the amount of BS posted in this thread is funny. 

I won’t ever claim I am innocent of all of it...not sure why some here think we are all blind to what has been posted though.

 
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tonydead said:
[scooter] said:
How is it "trolling" to point out that Dodds posted a fabricated claim that another business was harboring child porn?
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Using something from the past to try and discredit a posters response to a completely unrelated topic?   You serious Clark?  
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My opinion might be different if Dodds hadn't made such a heinous accusation.

My opinion might be different if he had apologized for what he did and retracted his claim. But he didn't.
 

 
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[scooter] said:
First off, that does not meet either Joe's or Maurile's definitions of "trolling".

Secondly, when a user has a history of posting poorly-sourced (or fabricated) claims, then it is absolutely fair game to mention his history when he does it again and again and again in other political threads.

I would agree that it's inappropriate to yell out "PIZZAGATE!" in the Shark Pool, but that's not happening here.
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[scooter] said:
My opinion might be different if Dodds hadn't made such a heinous accusation.

My opinion might be different if he had apologized for what he did and retracted his claim. But he didn't.
 
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Both of these posts are spot on. 

 
[scooter] said:
First off, that does not meet either Joe's or Maurile's definitions of "trolling".

Secondly, when a user has a history of posting poorly-sourced (or fabricated) claims, then it is absolutely fair game to mention his history when he does it again and again and again in other political threads.

I would agree that it's inappropriate to yell out "PIZZAGATE!" in the Shark Pool, but that's not happening here.
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Except the posts, at least the ones I saw recently, weren’t poorly sourced or fabricated. 

 
sho nuff said:
If bringing up Pizzagate is the t word...what is constant reference to kaepernick in order to get under the skin of another poster?  What is a group of people posting pigeons in their avatars?

Or bumping an old thread from Joe when you aren’t involved in a conversation?

Or following a poster around who asked you to stop and has told you over and over they won’t reply to you?

The ones complaining most about things bringing down this board have been just as guilty of it as anyone.  And the amount of BS posted in this thread is funny. 

I won’t ever claim I am innocent of all of it...not sure why some here think we are all blind to what has been posted though.
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We appreciate the honesty at least. 

 
GoBirds said:
We appreciate the honesty at least. 
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You reply to me...you post about me.  So that doesn’t apply here.  You will also see me only discussing your posts...not you personally when I reply to a post of yours.

But we don’t need a pissing match...or naming names.  I’ve said what I needed to after some of the claims in here.  

 
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[scooter] said:
First off, that does not meet either Joe's or Maurile's definitions of "trolling".

Secondly, when a user has a history of posting poorly-sourced (or fabricated) claims, then it is absolutely fair game to mention his history when he does it again and again and again in other political threads.

I would agree that it's inappropriate to yell out "PIZZAGATE!" in the Shark Pool, but that's not happening here.
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I'll let Maurile chime in here instead of going back and forth with you but I don't see how you can claim screaming PIZZAGATE in every PSF thread isn't trolling the guy or how it helps better the discussions

 
tonydead said:
Except the posts, at least the ones I saw recently, weren’t poorly sourced or fabricated. 
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I don’t really remember this being an issue either way but yes if someone just blurts out Pizzagate for no reason, no context, yes I agree that’s very lame.

However I can also see if a discussion is bordering some conspiracy stuff it can be touched on.

 
John Blutarsky said:
I haven’t seen any pigeons.
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Because after a while...those (and some in here acting all innocent) with them were rightfully told to end it.

Was funny for a day or two...a little mocking is good.  When it continued more and more just to keep aggravating someone?

 
sho nuff said:
Because after a while...those (and some in here acting all innocent) with them were rightfully told to end it.

Was funny for a day or two...a little mocking is good.  When it continued more and more just to keep aggravating someone?
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So pigeon pictures were offensive? Why did anyone complain about pigeons?

 
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sho nuff said:
If bringing up Pizzagate is the t word...what is constant reference to kaepernick in order to get under the skin of another poster?  What is a group of people posting pigeons in their avatars?

Or bumping an old thread from Joe when you aren’t involved in a conversation?

Or following a poster around who asked you to stop and has told you over and over they won’t reply to you?

The ones complaining most about things bringing down this board have been just as guilty of it as anyone.  And the amount of BS posted in this thread is funny. 

I won’t ever claim I am innocent of all of it...not sure why some here think we are all blind to what has been posted though.
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Okay, my apologies for that.  Now please reciprocate and never join a conversation here that you aren't involved in.  I look forward to your cooperation.

As to your new paragraph, I saw GoBirds ask you recently to stop responding to him and you told him you would point out whatever you want to him.  Well, same to you buddy.  You can't really dictate who replies to you.  Stop the shtick and I bet you'll get fewer replies.

99% of the forum is guilty of it.  Your cop shtick is by far the worst and it's not even close, IMO.  Others may disagree

 
sho nuff said:
Because after a while...those (and some in here acting all innocent) with them were rightfully told to end it.

Was funny for a day or two...a little mocking is good.  When it continued more and more just to keep aggravating someone?
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Don't forget it was Maurile that created the pigeon emoji.  He eventually deleted it.  When Joe asked for the avatars to stop we all did.  

 
Ramblin Wreck said:
Move on.  It's not an invitation to troll for life.   Guy post something in the Russia thread and gets an immediate "Pizzagate".  It just drags another discussion down.
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I agree with this. If David asks my opinion (he hasn't), I'd say he should acknowledge that he was too quick to accept certain claims about Pizzagate and Seth Rich on insufficient evidence.

But constantly bringing those things up in unrelated contexts is really tired and not conducive to good discussion.

Also, while explicitly acknowledging past errors is quite admirable, I think expecting others to do so usually means holding them to higher standards than the ones we hold ourselves to. I mean, in most cases, it seems to be a "do as I say, not as I do" kind of thing. I think we should mostly focus on the planks in our own eyes.

 
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The General said:
I thought it was the guy who welched on the bet CTSU(?) but I didn’t really follow all that was going on.
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It was definitely the CSTU thread.  I think Squis outed his own twitter account in that thread (but it could have been a different thread my memory sucks) and that's when the pigeon stuff happened.  

 
The General said:
I thought it was the guy who welched on the bet CTSU(?) but I didn’t really follow all that was going on.
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That was the name of the little emoticon.  But it was based on stuff they found in squis’s twitter.  The avatars were about him.

 
Maurile Tremblay said:
Yeah, let's not name names of the people we want to criticize. I think I'm generally decent (but not perfect) at knowing where people are coming from. I definitely do not include you, jon, cowboy, shader, noonan, wreck (I'm leaving plenty out) as people who support Trump or as people who shy away from substance. But it's still easy to fill up a hand's worth of fingers of people within the intersection of that Venn diagram.

On the anti-Trump side, it's easy to come up with a few people ... but it's a smaller list than the first one, in my estimation.
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I think some of the anti-Trump substance-shy posters may bleed together and not stick out individually to you. Just my humble guess.

 
John Blutarsky said:
Help me out...so pigeons pictures caused a problem here? Seriously ?
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Yeah.  They were all in good fun but one guy complained until they got banned.   Sho isn't remembering that the pigeon poop emoji started in the cstu thread.  I don't think the moderator created that to troll Squistion

 
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