SaintsInDome2006
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Oh I dunno, it's not such a bad idea. We could provide replies and comments and then the Trump supporters could continue to keep their thread to themselves.
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***OFFICIAL TRUMP 2020 CAMPAIGN THREAD*** (1 Viewer)
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SaintsInDome2006
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Trump campaign scrambling to revive the president’s imperiled reelection bid
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President Trump and his campaign team are grappling with how to resuscitate his imperiled reelection effort amid a wave of polling that shows him badly trailing presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden and losing traction even among core constituencies.
Some Trump advisers and allies are privately pushing for sweeping changes to the campaign, including the idea of a major staff shake-up and trying to convince the president to be more disciplined in his message and behavior.
But so far, the campaign has settled only on incremental changes — such as hiring and elevating a handful of operatives who worked on Trump’s upset victory in 2016 — and has yet to settle on a clear message for his reelection. Campaign officials and other advisers are also still struggling with how to best focus their attacks on Biden, which so far have been scattershot and have failed to curb his rise among voters.
And then there’s Trump himself, who has derailed his team’s desired themes on an almost daily basis — deploying racist rhetoric and mounting incendiary attacks on critics amid a surging coronavirus pandemic, an economic crisis and roiling protests over police brutality.
Numerous national polls show Trump losing significant ground with seniors and among white voters, including both those with and without four-year college degrees. He has also slipped among white evangelical voters. According to new New York Times/Siena College polls, Trump is at least slightly behind Biden in six states that he won in 2016 and are pivotal to his reelection path — including Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, where he trails by double digits.
“You can’t win with these numbers. They’re atrocious numbers,” said Edward J. Rollins, co-chairman of the pro-Trump super PAC Great America and the former campaign manager for Ronald Reagan’s 1984 reelection campaign.
“The president must straighten his campaign out and convey to the American people that he can move forward and lead,” Rollins said. “He’s got to go out and add 10 points pretty quick. If he can do that, he’ll win. If not, Biden is sitting there as the alternative.”
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And then there’s Trump himself, who has derailed his team’s desired themes on an almost daily basis — deploying racist rhetoric and mounting incendiary attacks on critics amid a surging coronavirus pandemic, an economic crisis and roiling protests over police brutality.
Numerous national polls show Trump losing significant ground with seniors and among white voters, including both those with and without four-year college degrees. He has also slipped among white evangelical voters. According to new New York Times/Siena College polls, Trump is at least slightly behind Biden in six states that he won in 2016 and are pivotal to his reelection path — including Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, where he trails by double digits.
“You can’t win with these numbers. They’re atrocious numbers,” said Edward J. Rollins, co-chairman of the pro-Trump super PAC Great America and the former campaign manager for Ronald Reagan’s 1984 reelection campaign.
“The president must straighten his campaign out and convey to the American people that he can move forward and lead,” Rollins said. “He’s got to go out and add 10 points pretty quick. If he can do that, he’ll win. If not, Biden is sitting there as the alternative.”
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And then there’s Trump himself, who has derailed his team’s desired themes on an almost daily basis — deploying racist rhetoric and mounting incendiary attacks on critics amid a surging coronavirus pandemic, an economic crisis and roiling protests over police brutality.
Numerous national polls show Trump losing significant ground with seniors and among white voters, including both those with and without four-year college degrees. He has also slipped among white evangelical voters. According to new New York Times/Siena College polls, Trump is at least slightly behind Biden in six states that he won in 2016 and are pivotal to his reelection path — including Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, where he trails by double digits.
“You can’t win with these numbers. They’re atrocious numbers,” said Edward J. Rollins, co-chairman of the pro-Trump super PAC Great America and the former campaign manager for Ronald Reagan’s 1984 reelection campaign.
“The president must straighten his campaign out and convey to the American people that he can move forward and lead,” Rollins said. “He’s got to go out and add 10 points pretty quick. If he can do that, he’ll win. If not, Biden is sitting there as the alternative.”
He has twice referred to the deadly coronavirus, which originated in China, derisively as the “kung flu.” In an interview with the Christian Broadcasting Network on Monday, he baselessly accused former president Barack Obama of “treason.” And he has dismissed the racial justice protesters — who took to the streets after the killing of George Floyd in police custody — as “hoodlums,” “thugs,” and even “terrorists,” promising “retribution” in an interview with Fox News’s Sean Hannity on Thursday night.
Advisers, meanwhile, are frustrated with the president’s tendency to portray himself as the victim, and have urged him to stop the public displays of self-pity.
“If the election was today, we are in big trouble,” according to one person close to Trump, who like others requested anonymity to share a candid assessment. “Thankfully it is not.”
Former New Jersey governor Chris Christie (R) warned on ABC News’s “This Week” on Sunday that if Trump “doesn’t change course both in terms of the substance of what he’s discussing and the way that he approaches the American people, then he will lose.”
The trend is obvious,” Christie said. “The trend is moving towards Joe Biden when Joe Biden hasn’t said a word. Joe Biden’s hiding in the basement and not saying anything. No discredit to the vice president — if you’re winning without doing anything, why do anything.”
An urgent task for Trump and his team, advisers say, is to find a way to negatively define Biden — transforming the election into a choice between the two men, rather than a referendum on Trump.
Trump has recently been asking advisers if he should stick with his current nickname for Biden — “Sleepy Joe” — or try to coin another moniker, such as “Swampy Joe” or “Creepy Joe.” The president is not convinced that “Sleepy Joe” is particularly damaging, and some of his advisers agree and have urged him to stop using the nickname. In a tweet on Sunday, Trump tried out yet another variant: “Corrupt Joe.”
Some advisers are also concerned that the campaign’s attacks on Biden’s mental acuity might alienate older voters, and that it also inadvertently sets a low bar for gauging Biden’s performance. ...
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The campaign has undergone a series of staff changes in recent weeks intended at righting the ship, including the addition of Jason Miller, a former senior adviser on the 2016 campaign who has a good relationship with Trump.
A comparison of recent national polls to 2016 exit polls and a Pew survey of confirmed voters finds Trump has lost significant ground among whites. He fares slightly better among nonwhites than he did four years ago, though not enough to counterbalance these other losses.
In 2016, Trump won whites by an average of 18 points across two surveys of 2016 voters; surveys since late May averaged by The Washington Post show him leading by five percentage points. Among whites without college degrees, Trump won the group by 37 points over Hillary Clinton in 2016, but recent polls show him dropping 15 points, to a 22-point advantage over Biden. And though Trump won seniors by eight points in 2016, he trails Biden by five points on average in recent national polls.
Juan Peñalosa, the executive director of the Florida Democratic Party, said seniors say they are both worried about the economy and angry about the novel coronavirus. “They are angry because they feel as if they are prisoners in their own home and they can’t see their grandchildren,” Peñalosa said. “And they blame Trump for this.”
Trump campaign manager Brad Parscale rejected the validity of public polling and blamed the media for many of the president’s current woes. “We know we are in solid shape in all of our key states, and no amount of fake, narrative-setting media polls can ever change that,” Parscale said in an email.
A senior White House official said that although Biden outraised Trump for the first time in May, the Trump campaign still outmatches Biden with $265 million cash on hand.
White House and campaign advisers are homing in on Wisconsin, Arizona, Florida and North Carolina as states where they must win — believing they are in good shape in Ohio, and that Michigan and Pennsylvania will be far more difficult this time. In a clear sign of worry, the campaign has purchased ad time in Georgia, a longtime GOP stronghold.
Some of the president’s advisers have told him that his hard-edge messaging has hurt him in recent weeks, showing him polling from swing states where he is trailing. And they have urged him to a run a general election strategy that appeals to a broader swath of voters, rather than a primary strategy that caters to his already energized base, said one person familiar with the encouragement.
Two people who spoke with Trump this week said he is arguing that groups defacing and tearing down monuments and statues will ultimately benefit him politically because the public will appreciate his harsh stance and “law and order” message. The president has also told his political advisers that there is more enthusiasm for him than Biden, and he doesn’t believe the polls, saying “10 points” should be added to his numbers.
“The campaign is hyper-focused on playing to the base — I think it’s a mistake,” said Chris Ruddy, chief executive of the conservative Newsmax Media and a longtime Trump confidant. “Politics are about addition, not subtraction. In this environment, the president has to do a lot of plus plus plus addition signs right now with every group that he possibly can.”
With Trump struggling to cope with numerous crises, many in both parties believe Trump’s standard playbook may not work as it did in 2016.
“In conservative places like Ohio, you really wonder if what Trump is selling will work again,” said former Ohio governor Ted Strickland, a Democrat. “NASCAR is banning the Confederate flag at races. Military leaders are speaking out against him. If the NFL starts again, you’ll see a lot of people kneeling. This is not the same country that it was in 2016.”
Speaking Thursday in Pennsylvania, Biden similarly took aim at Trump’s seeming inability to rise to the moment, saying the president is handling the coronavirus “like a child who can’t believe this has happened to him.”
“All his whining and self-pity,” Biden said. “This pandemic didn’t happen to him. It happened to all of us. And his job isn’t to whine about it. His job is to do something about it, to lead.”
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President Trump and his campaign team are grappling with how to resuscitate his imperiled reelection effort amid a wave of polling that shows him badly trailing presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden and losing traction even among core constituencies.
Some Trump advisers and allies are privately pushing for sweeping changes to the campaign, including the idea of a major staff shake-up and trying to convince the president to be more disciplined in his message and behavior.
But so far, the campaign has settled only on incremental changes — such as hiring and elevating a handful of operatives who worked on Trump’s upset victory in 2016 — and has yet to settle on a clear message for his reelection. Campaign officials and other advisers are also still struggling with how to best focus their attacks on Biden, which so far have been scattershot and have failed to curb his rise among voters.
And then there’s Trump himself, who has derailed his team’s desired themes on an almost daily basis — deploying racist rhetoric and mounting incendiary attacks on critics amid a surging coronavirus pandemic, an economic crisis and roiling protests over police brutality.
Numerous national polls show Trump losing significant ground with seniors and among white voters, including both those with and without four-year college degrees. He has also slipped among white evangelical voters. According to new New York Times/Siena College polls, Trump is at least slightly behind Biden in six states that he won in 2016 and are pivotal to his reelection path — including Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, where he trails by double digits.
“You can’t win with these numbers. They’re atrocious numbers,” said Edward J. Rollins, co-chairman of the pro-Trump super PAC Great America and the former campaign manager for Ronald Reagan’s 1984 reelection campaign.
“The president must straighten his campaign out and convey to the American people that he can move forward and lead,” Rollins said. “He’s got to go out and add 10 points pretty quick. If he can do that, he’ll win. If not, Biden is sitting there as the alternative.”
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And then there’s Trump himself, who has derailed his team’s desired themes on an almost daily basis — deploying racist rhetoric and mounting incendiary attacks on critics amid a surging coronavirus pandemic, an economic crisis and roiling protests over police brutality.
Numerous national polls show Trump losing significant ground with seniors and among white voters, including both those with and without four-year college degrees. He has also slipped among white evangelical voters. According to new New York Times/Siena College polls, Trump is at least slightly behind Biden in six states that he won in 2016 and are pivotal to his reelection path — including Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, where he trails by double digits.
“You can’t win with these numbers. They’re atrocious numbers,” said Edward J. Rollins, co-chairman of the pro-Trump super PAC Great America and the former campaign manager for Ronald Reagan’s 1984 reelection campaign.
“The president must straighten his campaign out and convey to the American people that he can move forward and lead,” Rollins said. “He’s got to go out and add 10 points pretty quick. If he can do that, he’ll win. If not, Biden is sitting there as the alternative.”
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And then there’s Trump himself, who has derailed his team’s desired themes on an almost daily basis — deploying racist rhetoric and mounting incendiary attacks on critics amid a surging coronavirus pandemic, an economic crisis and roiling protests over police brutality.
Numerous national polls show Trump losing significant ground with seniors and among white voters, including both those with and without four-year college degrees. He has also slipped among white evangelical voters. According to new New York Times/Siena College polls, Trump is at least slightly behind Biden in six states that he won in 2016 and are pivotal to his reelection path — including Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, where he trails by double digits.
“You can’t win with these numbers. They’re atrocious numbers,” said Edward J. Rollins, co-chairman of the pro-Trump super PAC Great America and the former campaign manager for Ronald Reagan’s 1984 reelection campaign.
“The president must straighten his campaign out and convey to the American people that he can move forward and lead,” Rollins said. “He’s got to go out and add 10 points pretty quick. If he can do that, he’ll win. If not, Biden is sitting there as the alternative.”
He has twice referred to the deadly coronavirus, which originated in China, derisively as the “kung flu.” In an interview with the Christian Broadcasting Network on Monday, he baselessly accused former president Barack Obama of “treason.” And he has dismissed the racial justice protesters — who took to the streets after the killing of George Floyd in police custody — as “hoodlums,” “thugs,” and even “terrorists,” promising “retribution” in an interview with Fox News’s Sean Hannity on Thursday night.
Advisers, meanwhile, are frustrated with the president’s tendency to portray himself as the victim, and have urged him to stop the public displays of self-pity.
“If the election was today, we are in big trouble,” according to one person close to Trump, who like others requested anonymity to share a candid assessment. “Thankfully it is not.”
Former New Jersey governor Chris Christie (R) warned on ABC News’s “This Week” on Sunday that if Trump “doesn’t change course both in terms of the substance of what he’s discussing and the way that he approaches the American people, then he will lose.”
The trend is obvious,” Christie said. “The trend is moving towards Joe Biden when Joe Biden hasn’t said a word. Joe Biden’s hiding in the basement and not saying anything. No discredit to the vice president — if you’re winning without doing anything, why do anything.”
An urgent task for Trump and his team, advisers say, is to find a way to negatively define Biden — transforming the election into a choice between the two men, rather than a referendum on Trump.
Trump has recently been asking advisers if he should stick with his current nickname for Biden — “Sleepy Joe” — or try to coin another moniker, such as “Swampy Joe” or “Creepy Joe.” The president is not convinced that “Sleepy Joe” is particularly damaging, and some of his advisers agree and have urged him to stop using the nickname. In a tweet on Sunday, Trump tried out yet another variant: “Corrupt Joe.”
Some advisers are also concerned that the campaign’s attacks on Biden’s mental acuity might alienate older voters, and that it also inadvertently sets a low bar for gauging Biden’s performance. ...
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The campaign has undergone a series of staff changes in recent weeks intended at righting the ship, including the addition of Jason Miller, a former senior adviser on the 2016 campaign who has a good relationship with Trump.
A comparison of recent national polls to 2016 exit polls and a Pew survey of confirmed voters finds Trump has lost significant ground among whites. He fares slightly better among nonwhites than he did four years ago, though not enough to counterbalance these other losses.
In 2016, Trump won whites by an average of 18 points across two surveys of 2016 voters; surveys since late May averaged by The Washington Post show him leading by five percentage points. Among whites without college degrees, Trump won the group by 37 points over Hillary Clinton in 2016, but recent polls show him dropping 15 points, to a 22-point advantage over Biden. And though Trump won seniors by eight points in 2016, he trails Biden by five points on average in recent national polls.
Juan Peñalosa, the executive director of the Florida Democratic Party, said seniors say they are both worried about the economy and angry about the novel coronavirus. “They are angry because they feel as if they are prisoners in their own home and they can’t see their grandchildren,” Peñalosa said. “And they blame Trump for this.”
Trump campaign manager Brad Parscale rejected the validity of public polling and blamed the media for many of the president’s current woes. “We know we are in solid shape in all of our key states, and no amount of fake, narrative-setting media polls can ever change that,” Parscale said in an email.
A senior White House official said that although Biden outraised Trump for the first time in May, the Trump campaign still outmatches Biden with $265 million cash on hand.
White House and campaign advisers are homing in on Wisconsin, Arizona, Florida and North Carolina as states where they must win — believing they are in good shape in Ohio, and that Michigan and Pennsylvania will be far more difficult this time. In a clear sign of worry, the campaign has purchased ad time in Georgia, a longtime GOP stronghold.
Some of the president’s advisers have told him that his hard-edge messaging has hurt him in recent weeks, showing him polling from swing states where he is trailing. And they have urged him to a run a general election strategy that appeals to a broader swath of voters, rather than a primary strategy that caters to his already energized base, said one person familiar with the encouragement.
Two people who spoke with Trump this week said he is arguing that groups defacing and tearing down monuments and statues will ultimately benefit him politically because the public will appreciate his harsh stance and “law and order” message. The president has also told his political advisers that there is more enthusiasm for him than Biden, and he doesn’t believe the polls, saying “10 points” should be added to his numbers.
“The campaign is hyper-focused on playing to the base — I think it’s a mistake,” said Chris Ruddy, chief executive of the conservative Newsmax Media and a longtime Trump confidant. “Politics are about addition, not subtraction. In this environment, the president has to do a lot of plus plus plus addition signs right now with every group that he possibly can.”
With Trump struggling to cope with numerous crises, many in both parties believe Trump’s standard playbook may not work as it did in 2016.
“In conservative places like Ohio, you really wonder if what Trump is selling will work again,” said former Ohio governor Ted Strickland, a Democrat. “NASCAR is banning the Confederate flag at races. Military leaders are speaking out against him. If the NFL starts again, you’ll see a lot of people kneeling. This is not the same country that it was in 2016.”
Speaking Thursday in Pennsylvania, Biden similarly took aim at Trump’s seeming inability to rise to the moment, saying the president is handling the coronavirus “like a child who can’t believe this has happened to him.”
“All his whining and self-pity,” Biden said. “This pandemic didn’t happen to him. It happened to all of us. And his job isn’t to whine about it. His job is to do something about it, to lead.”
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BladeRunner
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I'll wait until November after the results. I'm not going to get sucked into this type of propaganda.
You guys are only going to set yourself up for an even bigger fall than 2016 if you keep following this stuff. Your media is feeding you red meat.
I can almost guarantee the left will start another Civil War if they lose again - there is absolutely no way they would be able to handle it. They couldn't in 2016. And it's pieces just like this that are fomenting that type of hate.
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These guys, everyone is just looking at the facts that Biden is significantly ahead. Not sure who this “your media” is.isn't mine either.
It’s only June and this means nothing but Trump has significantly narrowed his window for winning with this extreme comments and mishandling of COVID.
BladeRunner
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Hey man, I'm not saying YOU can't read'em and believe'em. I'm just voicing my opinion.
The General
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Fair enough.
I guess I’m pouting out to you is there isn’t a “your media” or fake news element at play here - Trump is way, way behind.
Honestly shocked it’s even this close at the moment.
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SaintsInDome2006
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Eh I agree about racehorse politics - the more interesting part for me was the report about Trump needing to find a new nick for Biden - he tried one out today.
The General
Footballguy
I enjoy that Trump loves pointing out Biden is reading prepared notes in his speeches.
Trump when he’s “riffing” can’t make it more than a couple lines without messing something up, lying, saying something comically stupid
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Brit Hume?
Not my media!
Wall Street Journal?
Not my media!
Fox News?
Not my media!
True Scotsman?
Not my media!
Not my media!
Wall Street Journal?
Not my media!
Fox News?
Not my media!
True Scotsman?
Not my media!
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knowledge dropper
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sho nuff
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You mean a credible source? See...this is why you get push back when you post Breitbart, RedState, American Thinker, Twitchy.....laughing off an actual credible source...but posting from those places is what would be deserving of the rolling laugh.And he used the Washington Post.
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Sure, we'll wait for the Breitbart version 4 weeks later, which will just link to Wapo anyway.
Obviously, Trump changed the Biden nickname. Seems... Odd.
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SaintsInDome2006
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From the linked article:
Never heard of this:
Newsweek
- Totally normal to have megalomania in a president.
Btw this story by BB is so ridiculous, someone at DNC recirculated this Guardian article ("Trump's Mount Rushmore fireworks plan draws criticism from Native Americans").
The President of the United States tweeted out a video of one of his supporters shouting "White Power!" with a raised fist.
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sho nuff
Footballguy
A. Its Breitbart...of course its ridiculous...and hilarious that people who complain about the Washington Post post such things from there constantly. Has to be schtick at this point.
B. And yes...worried more about this supposed deleted tweet...not a single comment from the crew here about Trump retweeting the "white power" video.
SaintsInDome2006
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You can't seriously be arguing that did not in fact happen?knowledge dropper said:
Ramblin Wreck
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Credible source
SaintsInDome2006
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Joe Summer
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It didn't happen.
Okay, it did happen, but someone else was using his account.
Okay, it did happen, and he was using his own account, but he didn't know about the "White Power" thing.
Okay, it did happen, and he was using his own account, and he did know about the "White Power" thing -- but he deleted it. So why are you libs still mad?
Okay, it did happen, but someone else was using his account.
Okay, it did happen, and he was using his own account, but he didn't know about the "White Power" thing.
Okay, it did happen, and he was using his own account, and he did know about the "White Power" thing -- but he deleted it. So why are you libs still mad?
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
It's pretty well documented that Dan Scavino, a former caddy at one of Trump's golf clubs, primarily holds the keys to Trump's twitter handle.
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roadkill1292
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Fivethirtyeight now reporting that The Don's net approval rating has reached a full minus 16 (40.4 - 56.4). That's a lot of people lying to pollsters so their wives won't get mad at them.
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Footballguy
That is indeed encouraging but, repeating myself here, pollsters candidly admit that they have trouble counting voters most likely to be in Trump's demographic. So in my head I subtract 2-4 points from every state poll I see. The good news is that doing that still leaves Biden with a current EC lead. They're not undercounting Trump voters by 10 points.
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- I think one problem with this theory is that the tweet could only be taken down by specific approval from Trump. No one could reach him for a few hours while he was golfing. The other issues is that supposedly according to the same article Trump approves all content, so yeah while Scavino may create content it still has to pass Trump's muster to get tweeted. There are photos of Scavino walking around with drafts of tweets for Trump's approval. The point is, regardless who posts it it is only up there because Trump says it should be up there. - We also know that Trump does indeed do his own tweeting sometimes, so it's hard to tell, but I have seen this rated as likely from staff. In general Trump has tweeted about the Villages multiple times as well, it's not clear why to me though.
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This guy is really good at the FOX news troll shtick...but he's not on Hannity's level. He will occasionally step back from the "wars on Chirstmas" and "Obamagate" stuff to take swipes at Republicans.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
I just thought this^ was a quintessential example of a phenomenon Tom Nichols has talked about.
How We Killed Expertise (And why we need it back.)
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SaintsInDome2006
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Get politics out of sports, please.Creative advertising - though I am not sure how many converts it will create
