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As a Dem, I disagree. I won't vote for a candidate (in the primary) that is all about hating Trump. I want someone who supports my progressive agenda.
As far as presidential race goes they have to narrow out the field and then we’ll see how the nom shapes up.
Yeah who wants to push a policy like the Green New Deal that roughly 80% of voters support in a national election right? I mean run on popular policies? How ridiculous.
Really? They rode his coattails to losing over 800 statehouse seats and a bunch of governors? Losing the Congress? Just generally losing?
Maybe 80% of the democrats support it. Most Americans believe 93 Trillion is a bit steep.
Well good thing the deniers pulled that number of their butts then isn't it? Oh and I didn't stutter 80% of Americans not just Democrats.
Why would you use the incredibly tight 2018 elections given the significant changes in electorate by 2020? I don't know who's going to win here, but this seems like pretty flawed logic given the migrations from PR and the new found ability to vote for a couple million people (even though the state GOP is trying really hard to stop that from happening)timschochet said:
Go ahead and elect a far left democrat and see what happens on election night. America won't go for something that cost 93T.
The things they are going to make old Joe say to win this nomination. https://www.apnews.com/73e70d011191490d839683b1fc89363f
My “special insight” is what I read.roadkill1292 said:
I'd like to see if this was another land line poll. The last one that had Bernie that low way under sampled for voters under 30
I think Quinnipiac is one of the better polling outfits (they get an A- on 538)
Thanks for the link. I like Quinnipac and they are pretty good. Just the only other poll I've seen him that far back they literally sampled 0 voters under 35.
I agree. Beto draws the crowds gets people energized he also doesn't have a job right now so he can tour all around Iowa and try and capture them like he has Texas.
You can only be former HUD secretary for so long til you are irrelevant, even at 44.
Can’t wait to watch the level of scrutiny that is the new norm after the last election, it will be great entertainment.Biden and Booker are gropey, Warren lied about her heritage, Bernie shirtless drinking white Russians with the Russians in Russia, Harris had affair to get promoted, Beto dreams of running people over in a car. Is Buttigieg clean?
Who will be the last standing to go up against a ##### grabbing, lying sitting POTUS?
God Bless the USA.
I’m behind in this thread, but fivethirtyeight recently opined that Bernie probably would have beaten Trump in 2016.
Would you please stop with this. It isn't true. It isn't close to true. Unfortunately for your opinion we have exit polling.
It's quite amazing the hoops people will jump through to avoid reality. Tim, I can't honestly believe you continue to believe this with all the evidence pilled up in front of you. Your resistance to reality here runs a very similar path to those who reject climate science....seriously.
she knows what she's doing. she had a broad base of support , iirc, in her CA senate campaign. she's a strong "retail" candidate.
I’m the equivalent of a climate change denier now? Lol that’s kind of insulting.
Sorry you're insulted but when you continue to hold opinions that are debunked by the evidence in front of you, you are very much behaving like a climate change denier
Bernie crushed Hillary in Wisconsin too.Sorry you're insulted but when you continue to hold opinions that are debunked by the evidence in front of you, you are very much behaving like a climate change denier
Perfect example....freakin' Michigan chose Bernie over Hillary in the primary! I'd point you to all the exit polls but if you can't even acknowledge the situation in Michigan, then pointing you there is a wasted effort.
It doesn’t mean that he performs better than Hillary did in the general though. Very different circumstances.Sorry you're insulted but when you continue to hold opinions that are debunked by the evidence in front of you, you are very much behaving like a climate change denier
Perfect example....freakin' Michigan chose Bernie over Hillary in the primary! I'd point you to all the exit polls but if you can't even acknowledge the situation in Michigan, then pointing you there is a wasted effort.
Are you aware that Trump's message and Bernie's message in Wisconsin and Michigan were virtually identical with the exception of Trump's promise of bringing all the manufacturing jobs back to those states? This isn't about your motivations for voting. It was about your assertion that Bernie wouldn't have done better than Hillary in those states in the general election. I find that a curious position given the reality that they preferred him more than her in the primaries. I guess you could come up with a scenario where they liked him in the primary and turned on him in the general, but I don't see an honest argument there, merely a political one.
This is a false analysis. According to consistent polling taken after the election, the Trump voters in Wisconsin and Michigan did not select him for his talk about manufacturing jobs, or his anti-trade message. They chose him because of his anti-immigration talk, because of their fear of “the browning of America”. None of that was part of Bernie’s message, so to claim they were identical is incorrect. It’s the reason why Trump won those states and why he would have beaten Bernie.The Commish said:
