Biabreakable
Footballguy
Not saying he is any good but Hiliman did play 65% of the snaps for the Giants in their most recent game.
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RB Darrell Henderson, LAR (5 Viewers)
- Thread starter Interseptopus
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Interseptopus
Footballguy
Because barkley and Gallman are out?
Who else do you suggest I play along side Mixon:
Ty Johnson
Dare Ogunbowale
Darrell Henderson (seen 1 carry all season- maybe that changes this week)
Brian Hill
Saquon Barkley (out)
Wayne Gallman (out)
Mark Walton (Q)
Devine Ozigbo (inactive likely, just looking for a guy to drop him for but none yet)
Darius Guice (IR)
Rodney Anderson (IR)
28 man rosters, the WW is picked bare.
Hilliman stands to start tonight at least.
I didnt think it was an absurd option. In fact, League Dominator told me to roster and start him this week. I can wait and see what happens with Gurley and Dare can be my fall back. Hes good for about 5 points which is better than zero.
With having no rb2 this week, and Engram out, I may get my first loss (beat the 3rd highest score of the week last week thanks to Robbie Gould and the football gods... my luck likely runs out this week)
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Concept Coop
Footballguy
How can you say that Gurley is the only hurdle when Henderson is firmly behind Brown too? Henderson has only been in on 2 snaps - he’s not even a handcuff.
We may not have much insight into the details, but there is a reason he’s not playing, something he’s not bringing to the table that they expected him to when they drafted him. I highly doubt that is remedied by an injury to Gurley.
Henderson is young and his dynasty owners shouldn’t cut bait yet, but I see no reason for redraft optimism. Most redraft rosters aren’t big enough to roster 3rd stringers.
tombonneau
Footballguy
tombonneau
Footballguy
I guess if he is an emergency sub sure. But he's the definition of fungible asset. Biodegradable to the max. In reading @Dr. Dan's nightmare league scenario I suppose he's worth a spot start. But IMO when you're staring down the barrel of starting a guy like this, it's time to make a trade.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Tried. I offered Corey Davis for Chris Thompson...
No one is trading any RBs. I could maybe get McCoy for a 3rd.
At this point I'm willing to take my week 6 lumps and come back week 7 with saquon and Mixon. I have a 2 game lead in the division. I was lucky enough to win last week so I wont get greedy
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tackle for loss
Footballguy
This guy was so hyped by his owners I think its pretty clear he isnt gonna amount to much. Isnt that how it works? Shades of Christine Michael?
Don Hutson
Footballguy
I dropped my kicker, Matt Bryant, for Henderson. I can pick up Prater on Monday night if I need it to win. Neither my opponent nor I have any other players going on Monday so I will go without a kicker unless I am trailing. I will be taking the risk that someone could pick up Prater to block me. My opponent doesn't have any players to drop to pick Prater up. High point scorer gets $50 so I might have to pick up and start Prater to win that.
Now we’re all emotionally invested. I think I speak for everyone when I say please provide a running update and how your team does
Don Hutson
Footballguy
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Shocked there isn't more hype going into the weekend. Gurley is all but OUT this week, makes you wonder about the following week.
Rams have a Bye in Week 9, after the Niners they have two easier games in Atlanta and Cinci, combined 1-9 record, it's possible Gurley isn't used much until they come back in Week 10...could Brown hold the job down by himself? I doubt it but anything is possible.
It would appear as though there is some kind of light now shining in this direction with the injury bug popping up.
Cone of Uncertainty...I'm starting to smell a TS Warning or Watch being posted tonight along the Treasure Coast, here we go!
Rams have a Bye in Week 9, after the Niners they have two easier games in Atlanta and Cinci, combined 1-9 record, it's possible Gurley isn't used much until they come back in Week 10...could Brown hold the job down by himself? I doubt it but anything is possible.
It would appear as though there is some kind of light now shining in this direction with the injury bug popping up.
Cone of Uncertainty...I'm starting to smell a TS Warning or Watch being posted tonight along the Treasure Coast, here we go!
Interseptopus
Footballguy
vroom vroom
Also curious about the lack of hype.
This could be the beginning of the end for Gurley and the beginning of the beginning for Henderson.
May take some time, but the LAR didn't invest an early 3rd on this guy for no good reason.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
I get enough flack from the trolls. at this point let's see what he does! I'm excited for his opportunity and I hope McVay gives it to him
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Concept Coop
Footballguy
kittenmittens
Footballguy
Gurleys grave was dug last offseason. He's halfway in it.
Henderson should be doing a lot more than he has so far. Let's see him get some game action before we judge, but I'm always concerned when coaches don't seem to like a guy enough to get him on the field.
Henderson should be doing a lot more than he has so far. Let's see him get some game action before we judge, but I'm always concerned when coaches don't seem to like a guy enough to get him on the field.
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Wise Old Owl
Footballguy
I picked him up for cheap. Hoping he shows something with Gurley out. If not I'll probably cut bait and move on.
True but he’s not a bust quite yet. Worth a speculative add on the cheap before Sunday in case it hits. If not then it’s an easy drop.
voiceofunreason
Footballguy
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
RB 15 in ppr, 7 pts from top 10kittenmittens said:
kittenmittens
Footballguy
He's not dead, we just have his grave prepared and he's heading towards it.
Moreso his value as a top end dynasty asset than his football career being over FWIW.
Yep, and now comes the enjoyment for Gurley owners of trying to guess how much workload he gets in each and every game once he returns. My guess? Not as much as the max 16 carries he’s been limited to ever since he was injured last year.
#Rams played Todd Gurley on a season-high 93% of snaps last Thursday night, he picked up a quad injury be Seattle, now not going to play on a long week.
On the field:
* Career-low 4.9 yards/reception
* 4 straight games below 4.0 yards/carry
* 8 straight games below 20 touches
https://twitter.com/evansilva/status/1182747313980219394?s=21
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Take it for what it's worth, but Torry Holt, who struck me as pretty locked in with the Rams organization still, was on Cowherd's show a few weeks back and spoke pretty highly of Henderson and thinks he will shine once he gets opportunities.
Dizzy
Footballguy
I believe it. Like a previous post pointed out, you don't burn a 3rd round pick on a guy to warm the bench for Malcome Brown.
Is there footage of Henderson picking up and laying out blitzing linebackers in college? Usually the last thing that keeps rookie RBs from serious play time.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Anyone that drafted him this yr knew what they were getting into, imo
The original post that I quoted pretty much stated that Henderson was going to take Gurleys job
Theres not a snowballs chance in hell of that happening, imo
Football Jones
Footballguy
Remember, the Rams cherry-picked Henderson as a COP. McVay has been trying to find one since he got there. Even if you like Henderson, his dynasty outlook is highly unlikely to change (from the COP role).
If Gurley can't be counted upon, the Rams will look at RB (probably a feature back-type) in the 2020 draft unless Brown/Henderson perform well. That remains to be seen.
If Gurley can't be counted upon, the Rams will look at RB (probably a feature back-type) in the 2020 draft unless Brown/Henderson perform well. That remains to be seen.
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Koya
Footballguy
So, they limit the carries, but he's out there to pick up just about every blitz sent their way?
He's not the same player, but this myopic look at touches without any other context doesn't tell anything close to the full story.
Believe a blitz pickup = RB carry all you want. Haven’t seen too many RBs suffer significant injuries blocking a blitzing linebacker.
At this stage, it doesn’t really matter if there is an “other context” limiting his carries, nor what anyone assumes that narrative might be. It’s been ten straight games over two seasons in which he hasn’t had more than 16 carries. The Gurley fanboys can believe it’s a 6/1 defense, a weak offensive line, or an incompetent coach. I could care less. It’s pretty clearly a trend, and whatever injury he’s dealing with just five weeks into the season isn’t going to increase the likelihood that he receives more workload upon his return.
rockaction
Footballguy
Gurley out. Let it start.
Koya
Footballguy
Totally agree its a trend. And the results speak for themselves... but to best understand the situation we need to be honest with ourselves about what is injury VS. degradation of talent VS. lines play VS usage. Personally, I believe he's not nearly as explosive a back but a better than average overall skilled runner, solid all around, but no longer spectacular. But if he was being babied, I just don't see why they'd expose him to so many extra points of contact.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
couldnt care less...
sorry pet peeve
sorry pet peeve
Don Hutson
Footballguy
Jared Goff is bad under pressure. The LA Rams have a bad offensive line. Malcolm Brown had a PFF pass blocking grade of 90.0 last year, the best in the NFL for a running back. Henderson needs to pass protect very well to see significant time. But the Rams also need an effective run game to keep defenses honest.
Kafka
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
I was going to comment about the societally tragic misuse of the apostrophe, too, but I figured why add to it?
matuski
Footballguy
Couldn't.
Could implies that you do indeed care, leaving the possibility to care less.
matuski
Footballguy
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Awesome, on both accounts? Good luck from here on out deciding whether or not to start him.
John Kelly looked very good in the 2018 preseason, some thought he might be #2, but it was Brown instead. He outperformed Kamara at Tennessee one year. But he almost didn't make the team this year. He was a good pass blocker and receiver in college. If Henderson fails, he might get a chance.
matuski
Footballguy
matuski
Footballguy
Nope, seems the exact same situation as every other RB. Mysterious injury (or not) late in 2018, workhorse RB that’s “fine” getting limited touches on a run to the Super Bowl, talk about a degenerative knee during the offseason, team trading two picks to move up in the draft to grab a RB, limited practice participation in the preseason, trend of not receiving more than 16 carries in a game continues into 2019, “quad injury” significant enough to keep him out of a game 10 days after it occurred after playing just five games. Pretty much nothing out of the ordinary compared to other RBs over the last ten months. Status quo, I’d say.
Look, I’m glad Gurley has been “a value to you thus far for what you paid for him” (not sure how that’s quite possible as he’s RB17 in my ppr league, but ok). I have a hunch he’s about to become just just a bit more complicated for you than “if he starts he starts.” But like I said, we’ll see. Let’s double back on this in a month.
matuski
Footballguy
You seem hellbent on some conspiracy theory.
It never was a mystery, he has a degenerative knee. Known since he was drafted.
People that drafted him that weren't hiding under a rock for the last year expected this. You seem to be saying AHA I TOLD THIS WOULD HAPPEN... when we all knew this is what we were getting. Ceteris paribus, you start him when he starts.
