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In his latest scouting notebook, Bleacher Report's Matt Miller writes that Alabama RB Joshua Jacobs is "worth it" when it comes to a possible top-five selection.

Miller coming in hot, here, as there is plenty of evidence out there that running backs simply do not carry the value they were once believed to. Miller would be willing to take that gamble, it would appear, writing that the 5-foot-10, 216-pound Jacobs "has a mixture of power and speed that should excite NFL general managers." The analyst refers to Jacobs as a "more powerful version of Alvin Kamara with limited wear and tear." We're going to have to respectfully disagree with Miller on this one, just generally, as while we very much enjoy Jacobs' game, we view him as more of a late Day 1/early Day 2 prospect than a top-20 one, let alone a top-five one.

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Top 5 is pushing it I'm sure, and I totally get the concern over the limited production in college, but when I watch his highlights I am blown away.  It's really baffling to me that this guy didn't get more usage at Bama.  He's electric, his cuts are dynamic, and he has those stout thighs that allow him to run through arm tackles without losing any pace (which is my favorite asset for a RB).  He caught passes downfield like a WR and was a pretty good blocker as well.

There is lots of risk I think because of the lack of production, but his upside seems massive.

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4 hours ago, FreeBaGeL said:

Top 5 is pushing it I'm sure, and I totally get the concern over the limited production in college, but when I watch his highlights I am blown away.  It's really baffling to me that this guy didn't get more usage at Bama.  He's electric, his cuts are dynamic, and he has those stout thighs that allow him to run through arm tackles without losing any pace (which is my favorite asset for a RB).  He caught passes downfield like a WR and was a pretty good blocker as well.

There is lots of risk I think because of the lack of production, but his upside seems massive.

I agree he looks GOOD on tape

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6 hours ago, FreeBaGeL said:

Top 5 is pushing it I'm sure, and I totally get the concern over the limited production in college, but when I watch his highlights I am blown away.  It's really baffling to me that this guy didn't get more usage at Bama.  He's electric, his cuts are dynamic, and he has those stout thighs that allow him to run through arm tackles without losing any pace (which is my favorite asset for a RB).  He caught passes downfield like a WR and was a pretty good blocker as well.

There is lots of risk I think because of the lack of production, but his upside seems massive.

The thing is Alabama is so good they can play the safer back with more experience. He’s definitely one of the risky players though. There’s some Christine Michael hype to him. 

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2 hours ago, voiceofunreason said:

The thing is Alabama is so good they can play the safer back with more experience. He’s definitely one of the risky players though. There’s some Christine Michael hype to him. 

CMIKE was hyped because he had an outstanding combine.  Jacobs is hyped because of how good he looks on tape.  Night and day difference to me.

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5 hours ago, menobrown said:

CMIKE was hyped because he had an outstanding combine.  Jacobs is hyped because of how good he looks on tape.  Night and day difference to me.

Not really... at all. In fact, I would say this is worse. People say he’s explosive but nothing about his stats suggests that about him or that he’s special. I’m avoiding this like the plague. His odds are so much higher for failure than any back from last year. Good luck to those who use a top pick on him thinking he’s Kamara. If Bruglar and co. are able to assess that they may as well go buy some lottery tickets while they’re at it.

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3 hours ago, Bojang0301 said:

Not really... at all. In fact, I would say this is worse. People say he’s explosive but nothing about his stats suggests that about him or that he’s special. I’m avoiding this like the plague. His odds are so much higher for failure than any back from last year. Good luck to those who use a top pick on him thinking he’s Kamara. If Bruglar and co. are able to assess that they may as well go buy some lottery tickets while they’re at it.

who would you pick if you had 1.1 or 1.2

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7 minutes ago, Bojang0301 said:

At RB? Right now Darrell Henderson. 

 

I do like Henderson, a lot, and potentially more than Jacobs. I'm not sure he is worth of a top 3 selection right now but if he is drafted into a good scenario I think he is without a doubt. you had a bunch of spreadsheets and so forth in this thread and 2019 thread making your case against Jacobs. where does Henderson fall in those same statistics? 

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9 minutes ago, Dr. Dan said:

 

I do like Henderson, a lot, and potentially more than Jacobs. I'm not sure he is worth of a top 3 selection right now but if he is drafted into a good scenario I think he is without a doubt. you had a bunch of spreadsheets and so forth in this thread and 2019 thread making your case against Jacobs. where does Henderson fall in those same statistics? 

I’ve put together the foundation for my spreadsheet this year but nothing is going to start being concrete until after pro days/combine. The only thing I could really comment on is that Henderson does have a lesser market share in comparison to his efficiency than I had hoped but I think his talent will come out in the combine and if I’m wrong on that I’ll be the first to admit. 

I do have a twinge of fear based on my failure and continued stubbornness to identify the potential of Kamara. Situation does matter. Jacobs In KC would be a pretty huge boon even if probabilities suggest he’s more likely a bust than a success. I just think that a lot of the analysts that are putting Jacobs out as RB1 have 1) created a narrative that people have marched along to and 2) do not look at things from a fantasy perspective. Now the second point does tend to have a cross section with dynasty FF but they don’t care if his bust probablility is X or Y. As of right now I have to assume Jacobs is well liked in NFL circles or they wouldn’t be propagating it the way they are (and having Kiper/McShay follow suit). I’ve tried not to be overly critical of Jacobs. He’s a good receiver and that matters a lot in today’s NFL. He could also blow the doors off at the combine. I think it will be more apparent as to why I’m confused when the workouts start happening. If Rodney Anderson is able to run, then Holyfield, Weber, Singleton, Jordan Scarlett, Trayveon Williams and Miles Sanders (plus Kerrith Whyte and Tony Pollard) I expect to test as some plus plus athletes. 

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58 minutes ago, Bojang0301 said:

I’ve put together the foundation for my spreadsheet this year but nothing is going to start being concrete until after pro days/combine. The only thing I could really comment on is that Henderson does have a lesser market share in comparison to his efficiency than I had hoped but I think his talent will come out in the combine and if I’m wrong on that I’ll be the first to admit. 

I do have a twinge of fear based on my failure and continued stubbornness to identify the potential of Kamara. Situation does matter. Jacobs In KC would be a pretty huge boon even if probabilities suggest he’s more likely a bust than a success. I just think that a lot of the analysts that are putting Jacobs out as RB1 have 1) created a narrative that people have marched along to and 2) do not look at things from a fantasy perspective. Now the second point does tend to have a cross section with dynasty FF but they don’t care if his bust probablility is X or Y. As of right now I have to assume Jacobs is well liked in NFL circles or they wouldn’t be propagating it the way they are (and having Kiper/McShay follow suit). I’ve tried not to be overly critical of Jacobs. He’s a good receiver and that matters a lot in today’s NFL. He could also blow the doors off at the combine. I think it will be more apparent as to why I’m confused when the workouts start happening. If Rodney Anderson is able to run, then Holyfield, Weber, Singleton, Jordan Scarlett, Trayveon Williams and Miles Sanders (plus Kerrith Whyte and Tony Pollard) I expect to test as some plus plus athletes. 

The thing with Jacobs is that he is just as destination dependant as any of these RBs. Let's pretend Jacobs goes to TB round 1, and Henderson goes to KC round 2... I think you have a good debate for 1.1

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4 minutes ago, Dr. Dan said:

The thing with Jacobs is that he is just as destination dependant as any of these RBs. Let's pretend Jacobs goes to TB round 1, and Henderson goes to KC round 2... I think you have a good debate for 1.1

Agree, but a little less so for me.  The more I watch Jacobs the more I really like what I see.  If he goes in round 1 he is likely my 1.01 unless something truly perfect happens elsewhere. 

I agree with what you say about KC but I don't foresee them taking a guy in round 2.  A more realistic scenario I think is Jacobs to Oakland in round 1 and a guy like Henderson to KC in round 3, and Montgomery to Philly in round 2.  I think all of those are pretty plausible landing spots and would create a bit of a logjam at the top, but I would still have Jacobs #1 in that scenario personally.

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8 hours ago, Bojang0301 said:

Not really... at all. In fact, I would say this is worse. People say he’s explosive but nothing about his stats suggests that about him or that he’s special. I’m avoiding this like the plague. His odds are so much higher for failure than any back from last year. Good luck to those who use a top pick on him thinking he’s Kamara. If Bruglar and co. are able to assess that they may as well go buy some lottery tickets while they’re at it.

Yes we get it you don't like Jacobs and are pretty big ridiculing those who have a higher opinion of him then any RB in this draft.  At this point just come across like the guy in the Gurley thread. 

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23 minutes ago, FreeBaGeL said:

Agree, but a little less so for me.  The more I watch Jacobs the more I really like what I see.  If he goes in round 1 he is likely my 1.01 unless something truly perfect happens elsewhere. 

I agree with what you say about KC but I don't foresee them taking a guy in round 2.  A more realistic scenario I think is Jacobs to Oakland in round 1 and a guy like Henderson to KC in round 3, and Montgomery to Philly in round 2.  I think all of those are pretty plausible landing spots and would create a bit of a logjam at the top, but I would still have Jacobs #1 in that scenario personally.

If this happened, I would default to draft pedigree for my selection. 

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28 minutes ago, FreeBaGeL said:

Agree, but a little less so for me.  The more I watch Jacobs the more I really like what I see.  If he goes in round 1 he is likely my 1.01 unless something truly perfect happens elsewhere. 

I agree with what you say about KC but I don't foresee them taking a guy in round 2.  A more realistic scenario I think is Jacobs to Oakland in round 1 and a guy like Henderson to KC in round 3, and Montgomery to Philly in round 2.  I think all of those are pretty plausible landing spots and would create a bit of a logjam at the top, but I would still have Jacobs #1 in that scenario personally.

I would still have Jacobs #1 in that scenario as well but I also am not down on the Raiders as a landing spot and have been one to never care much about team success when looking at pass catchers.  If I was counting on my RB to actually get a ton of carries and be less impactful in passing game it would carry a lot more weight.

Just for kicks if that scenario unfolded I'd go Jacobs, Henderson and Montgomery, but that's also the order I have them ranked with respect to each other right now so I guess another way of putting it is if the draft went that way it would not have changed my order for those 3. If the draft went that way I'd just be bummed because I made a side bet with Big Tex that Henderson goes top 75 and unless KC was trading up I'd losing my bet.

 

 

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58 minutes ago, menobrown said:

Yes we get it you don't like Jacobs and are pretty big ridiculing those who have a higher opinion of him then any RB in this draft.  At this point just come across like the guy in the Gurley thread. 

How so? By saying multiple times I think he is a good athlete and that his situation could shift where he sits for me? How and why should he even be considered in the realm of where Todd Gurley was before drafts? It’s peak stupidity by the fantasy community and Jeremiah, Bruglar and The Draft Network. They seriously believe college practices at Alabama > collegiate production. Guy had 55 yards on 11 touches against Alabama St. and the Citadel. He’s not a top 5 pick, he’s not a first rounder and he’s a reach in the 2nd or 3rd.

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3 hours ago, Dr. Dan said:

The thing with Jacobs is that he is just as destination dependant as any of these RBs. Let's pretend Jacobs goes to TB round 1, and Henderson goes to KC round 2... I think you have a good debate for 1.1

 

Unless Hunt is in KC.  They’ve opened the door back up to him since he’s been so successful in rehabbing himself.

Regardless, I’m with those going against the groupthink grain.  I don’t consider Saban to be stupid, he got a chance to watch Jacobs everyday and decided that he couldn’t get him even 10 touches a game - even when there were enough blowout wins and plenty of opportunity to do so in the second half of those games.  But you guys could be right of course.  The RB3 at ‘Bama could be worthy of a top 5 draft pick.  Me, I’ll gladly let someone else run that risk.

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I know it's not the Darrell Henderson thread, but he doesn't even come close to talent to Jacobs.  But that's probably only the half the puzzle at most, talent.  Situation has a big say in that sort of thing, but it won't matter to me as much.  If Henderson goes to the best possible landing spot, and Jacobs to an average one, Jacobs is still the clear rookie pick > Henderson to me.  There's maybe 3 landing spots that would just kill Jacob's outlook, Giants, Panthers, Rams.  None of those are likely to happen but I'm just saying he'll still be considered a better prospect than Henderson regardless.  

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1 hour ago, Bronco Billy said:

  The RB3 at ‘Bama

 

Najeh Harris was the #1RB in his class and I know he can't come out till next year but not hearing talk of him being a top 5 player just yet.

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53 minutes ago, Zyphros said:

I know it's not the Darrell Henderson thread, but he doesn't even come close to talent to Jacobs.  But that's probably only the half the puzzle at most, talent.  Situation has a big say in that sort of thing, but it won't matter to me as much.  If Henderson goes to the best possible landing spot, and Jacobs to an average one, Jacobs is still the clear rookie pick > Henderson to me.  There's maybe 3 landing spots that would just kill Jacob's outlook, Giants, Panthers, Rams.  None of those are likely to happen but I'm just saying he'll still be considered a better prospect than Henderson regardless.  

Doesn’t come close to the talent? How do you judge that? Because one played at Alabama and one played at Memphis? 

Edit to add: I have a quoted timed speed of 21 mph for Henderson and a rumored of 22 mph for Jacobs (in practice, as per everything for the guy). I don’t understand calling a guy with back to back seasons of 9.0 ypc inferior to a guy whose coach was so enthralled by him he touched the ball three times against Citadel in a game they were trailing in the first half.

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2 minutes ago, Bojang0301 said:

Doesn’t come close to the talent? How do you judge that? Because one played at Alabama and one played at Memphis? 

My own thoughts on talent obviously, that and everyone's assumption that Jacobs goes in the 1st while Henderson goes 3rd or 4th.  Big talent disparity there.  Doesn't mean Henderson is bad or that Jacobs is all that good, but talent wise I find it hard to compare them

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Just now, Zyphros said:

My own thoughts on talent obviously, that and everyone's assumption that Jacobs goes in the 1st while Henderson goes 3rd or 4th.  Big talent disparity there.  Doesn't mean Henderson is bad or that Jacobs is all that good, but talent wise I find it hard to compare them

I added on to my thoughts, talent is subjective. We probably can’t argue about it until after the combine to get pure athleticism.

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1 hour ago, IHEARTFF said:

Starting to really like Holyfield. 

Welcome to the party. Guy is a BEAST

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The Draft Network's Jon Ledyard called Alabama RB Josh Jacobs "the toughest player" he has watched for the 2019 NFL Draft.

Ledyard attached a video of Jacobs (5'10/216) trucking a poor defensive back when Jacobs easily could have just run out of bounds as evidence to his claim. Jacobs has the ability to run over people, but he has enough finesse to make people miss as well. This was obviously evident as a runner, but Jacobs also has talents as a receiver, which is part of the reason why Jacobs sits atop of many analysts' draft boards. If Jacobs tests well at the NFL Combine, he'll have a chance of being a first-rounder.

SOURCE: Jon Ledyard on Twitter

Feb 14, 2019, 3:10 PM

 

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I'm really liking him more and more in this class. Can't wait until the combine and when KC drafts him. Please let KC draft him.

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On 2/15/2019 at 4:01 PM, Gandalf said:

I'm really liking him more and more in this class. Can't wait until the combine and when KC drafts him. Please let KC draft him.

This place would go nuts if KC draft him.

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IMO Oakland is the most likely landing spot. they have luxury picks to be able to afford Jacob's round 1 the most of any team

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In 20 years of coaching, Reid has never used a first rounder on a RB.  With the D help KC needs, he isn’t going to start now for a marginal back like Jacobs.  Geez.

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1 hour ago, Dr. Dan said:

IMO Oakland is the most likely landing spot. they have luxury picks to be able to afford Jacob's round 1 the most of any team

Agreed, and I actually kind of like that spot for him.  Not much competition there, and the starters there actually put up pretty solid numbers last year without being the receiving threats Jacobs is.

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Raiders don't really have luxury picks in the sense that their team is full of holes. But yes 3 1st makes it likelier they do something dumb like take a rb.

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On 2/18/2019 at 7:10 PM, Bronco Billy said:

In 20 years of coaching, Reid has never used a first rounder on a RB.  With the D help KC needs, he isn’t going to start now for a marginal back like Jacobs.  Geez.

Until last year similar things were said about BB then he drafted Sony. Every year can be different. Maybe he will maybe he won’t no one really knows.

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5 hours ago, BigTex said:

Until last year similar things were said about BB then he drafted Sony. Every year can be different. Maybe he will maybe he won’t no one really knows.

Tex

Belichick drafted Laurence Maroney in round 1 also. That’s not to say your point on Reid is incorrect - we have no idea what will happen on draft day. Although in such a strong defensive draft with the Chiefs D being so poor and their offense so good I don’t see them going RB either especially with no real standout in this class.

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2 hours ago, Dr. Octopus said:

Belichick drafted Laurence Maroney in round 1 also. That’s not to say your point on Reid is incorrect - we have no idea what will happen on draft day. Although in such a strong defensive draft with the Chiefs D being so poor and their offense so good I don’t see them going RB either especially with no real standout in this class.

That narrative is quickly changing. Jacobs being compared to a bigger, stronger Kamar is real and the clear top dog. I’m seeing more and more Jacobs going top 10 or top 5. As draft pundits begin to shape their Mocks  I’m also starting to see Monty, Fant, T.J., Brown, and Metcalf go in the first.

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3 hours ago, BigTex said:

That narrative is quickly changing. Jacobs being compared to a bigger, stronger Kamar is real and the clear top dog. I’m seeing more and more Jacobs going top 10 or top 5. As draft pundits begin to shape their Mocks  I’m also starting to see Monty, Fant, T.J., Brown, and Metcalf go in the first.

Tex

People need to keep in mind that the assessment of Jacobs as a top prospect comes from scouts who are privy to information and access that none of us are. I really dont think this is just hyping up a random RB. He seemed to come out of nowhere, fast, and theres a reason for that. I'm paying attention. 

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2 hours ago, Dr. Dan said:

People need to keep in mind that the assessment of Jacobs as a top prospect comes from scouts who are privy to information and access that none of us are. I really dont think this is just hyping up a random RB. He seemed to come out of nowhere, fast, and theres a reason for that. I'm paying attention. 

 

And yet those same scouts make as many or more mistakes in evaluating players’ prospects for succeeding in the NFL as a lot of we sadly underinformed schlubs here.

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1 hour ago, Bronco Billy said:

 

And yet those same scouts make as many or more mistakes in evaluating players’ prospects for succeeding in the NFL as a lot of we sadly underinformed schlubs here.

Yep. That is why it is important to take in all information, digest it, and make your own conclusion. Any time you depend on someone else you will be disappointed more often than not. Have to think for yourself sometimes, which can be a hard concept for some of our younger people these days. I was just pointing out that many detractors from Jacobs seem to be just pushing aside the possibility of some of these scouts having inside information. Either that or they are digesting it and determining that it's not worth more than their eyes tell them. Which is fine. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

 

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34 minutes ago, Dr. Dan said:

Yep. That is why it is important to take in all information, digest it, and make your own conclusion. Any time you depend on someone else you will be disappointed more often than not. Have to think for yourself sometimes, which can be a hard concept for some of our younger people these days. I was just pointing out that many detractors from Jacobs seem to be just pushing aside the possibility of some of these scouts having inside information. Either that or they are digesting it and determining that it's not worth more than their eyes tell them. Which is fine. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

 

Also some scouts and organizations are better at identifying talent than others. I generally accept that a scout knows more than me. Can they get it wrong? Of course. But this is their job as opposed to my hobby. I would hope they are better than me at evaluating talent. Also the team might be drafting a player for different reasons. Guy they think fits their scheme or a TE/WR who can block, or a WR who is a kick returner too and gets taken a round or two earlier because of that skill.

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2 hours ago, Faust said:

Watching those highlights a few things stand out to me:

Acceleration: out of cuts and on straight aways. suddenly he's going much faster in a matter of a few yards. Impressive
Toughness: not afraid to take or deliver a hit. He seems to like it.
Versatility: He can do it all

He doesn't stand out as a generational talent or anything like that, but he does everything. Many backs being drafted in the first 2 rounds of redrafts can do everything and aren't generational. Many of the backs in this draft can't do it all.

He would be a great option if he landed in Baltimore. Combine Alex Collins and Buck Allen's production into one player.

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Its just so hard to nail prospects in this hobby. I can remember so much love for Richardson, Donald Brown, Bishop Sankey, Patterson, Detroit's Mike Williams, Charles Rogers, Treadwell...just goes on and on. Seems to me there is so much luck involved most of the time.... 

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3 minutes ago, Dr. Dan said:

Watching those highlights a few things stand out to me:

Acceleration: out of cuts and on straight aways. suddenly he's going much faster in a matter of a few yards. Impressive
Toughness: not afraid to take or deliver a hit. He seems to like it.
Versatility: He can do it all

He doesn't stand out as a generational talent or anything like that, but he does everything. Many backs being drafted in the first 2 rounds can do everything and aren't generational. Many of the backs in this draft can't do it all.

He would be a great option if he landed in Baltimore. Combine Alex Collins and Buck Allen's production into one player.

Agree with all of this. He looks like a solid pro and hope he lands in a good offense

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4 minutes ago, ffmail4me said:

Its just so hard to nail prospects in this hobby. I can remember so much love for Richardson, Donald Brown, Bishop Sankey, Patterson, Detroit's Mike Williams, Charles Rogers, Treadwell...just goes on and on. Seems to me there is so much luck involved most of the time.... 

A lot of this, comes down to a player’s desire, dedication, commitment, avoiding drugs/alcohol issues, avoiding injuries, fitting into an offense, and willingness to keep working hard. All of those things which are key to success are hard to predict.

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6 hours ago, Dr. Dan said:

Yep. That is why it is important to take in all information, digest it, and make your own conclusion. Any time you depend on someone else you will be disappointed more often than not. Have to think for yourself sometimes, which can be a hard concept for some of our younger people these days. I was just pointing out that many detractors from Jacobs seem to be just pushing aside the possibility of some of these scouts having inside information. Either that or they are digesting it and determining that it's not worth more than their eyes tell them. Which is fine. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

 

A bit of speculation on my part but this years draft class seems weaker at RB than the last two were. I don't think too many people would want to argue about that.

Recently I asked ZWK if the RB group this year was weaker than the last two based on a couple metrics. He said it is weaker based on the metrics he tracks but he wasn't sure about the two metrics that I asked about.

In any case Jacons value in the eyes on draft pundits may be exaggerated because there are not any other RB who really stand out either. They need to generate some excitement to attract readers. JJ is their best story to sell.

I think a good way to try to answer a question about quality of draft class is to just rank the players from the last 3 draft classes together and see where JJ lands on such a list. 

I would basically have all of my tier one RB prospects from the last two years ranked ahead of JJ right now but he would still make tier one.

Now what if we ranked JJ against the 2014 RB class?

2	54	Bishop Sankey	RB	21	2015	0	0	1	6	6	29	0	0	0	0	0	199	762	3	32	272	1	1			Washington	College Stats
2	55	CIN	Jeremy Hill	RB	21	2018	0	0	3	21	21	55	0	0	0	0	0	708	2898	29	68	490	1	5			LSU	College Stats
2	57	SFO	Carlos Hyde	RB	23	2018	0	0	2	22	19	64	0	0	0	0	0	827	3300	26	119	667	3				Ohio St.	College Stats
3	69	TAM	Charles Sims	RB	23	2017	0	0	0	13	13	47	0	0	0	0	0	245	958	2	129	1190	6	1			West Virginia	College Stats
3	75	STL	Tre Mason	RB	21	2015	0	0	1	7	7	25	0	0	0	0	0	254	972	5	34	236	1	1			Auburn	College Stats
3	94	CLE	Terrance West	RB	23	2017	0	0	1	12	4	43	0	0	0	0	0	465	1816	11	51	344	2	1			Towson	
3	96	MIN	Jerick McKinnon	RB	22	2017	0	0	0	21	21	58	0	1	0	0	0	474	1918	7	142	984	5	1			Georgia Southern	
4	103	ATL	Devonta Freeman	RB	22	2018	0	2	3	38	38	63	0	0	0	0	0	767	3316	30	198	1605	7	3			Florida St.	College Stats
4	113	NYG	Andre Williams	RB	22	2017	0	0	0	7	6	41	0	0	0	0	0	332	1090	8	19	137	0	1			Boston Col.	College Stats
4	117	CHI	Ka'Deem Carey	RB	21	2016	0	0	0	3	3	36	0	0	0	0	0	111	443	2	13	131	1				Arizona	College Stats
4	124	KAN	De'Anthony Thomas	RB	21	2018	0	0	0	7	7	55	0	0	0	0	0	29	186	2	64	503	4	4			Oregon	College Stats
4	130	NWE	James White	RB	22	2018	0	0	0	27	27	63	0	0	0	0	0	207	856	7	248	2164	19				Wisconsin	College Stats
4	138	BAL	Lorenzo Taliaferro	RB	22	2016	0	0	0	3	3	19	0	0	0	0	0	82	339	5	16	153	0	3			Coastal Carolina	
6	181	HOU	Alfred Blue	RB	23	2018	0	0	1	18	18	72	0	0	0	0	0	673	2407	8	69	470	2	4			LSU	College Stats
6	186	WAS	Lache Seastrunk	RB	23	2014	0	0	0	0		0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0				Baylor	College Stats

I could see ranking JJ the top RB of this group. Maybe the 2019 RB group is more on this level of ability than the RB who have come out the last two seasons.

2015 had Gurley and Gordon who I would have ranked ahead of JJ pretty easily.

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