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QB Daniel Jones, NYG (1 Viewer)
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Hot Sauce Guy
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Traded Sutton for him in Superflex, so hoping for big things to come from my QB2 this year & beyond. The fumbles don’t worry me that much....yet. I am assuming the OL will continue by improve & Jones will learn to throw it away more often. He seemed to hold onto the ball just a little too long at times, which isn’t uncommon in young QBs adjusting to the NFL. If he can’t shake that in 2020 it could be more of a problem.
BigTex
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Hot Sauce Guy
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IMO Sutton is a stud. Jury’s way out on whether it was a good deal.
I mostly love what I’ve seen from Jones. What I didn’t love has been downright awful. But to my eye the bad Jones looked like rookie growing pains.
2020 should show us what’s what.
The Frankman
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The thing that scares me about Jones right now is this climate where he can't get a normal camp and train and learn Jason Garrett's scheme, much less fix his two big bugaboos; pocket awareness and ball security. There was a time 20 years ago where his lack of awareness would've landed him in the hospital; I'm hoping when training camp opens sometime in late June that he's able to really work on those deficiencies in his game.
I really wonder how much we will see from Garrett the OC. Garrett the coach was very blah calling the plays, maybe some more innovation now that he's an OC again?
I really wonder how much we will see from Garrett the OC. Garrett the coach was very blah calling the plays, maybe some more innovation now that he's an OC again?
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Sigh. Dr. Dan aka interseptos, any more you have hidden?
Sigh. Dr. Dan aka interseptos, any more you have hidden?
smbkrypt24
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That seems like pretty high praise saying mid QB1. I would easily have Lamar, Mahommes, Watson, Prescott, Murray ahead of him. So mid says you have him in that next tier? I would have him in QB2 range dynasty and redraft.
Yes, I would easily take those ahead of him as well. I would have him in the next tier behind Wentz, Allen, Matt Ryan and maybe Stafford.
Maybe low QB1, but I could see a finish as high as 5-6 if the Giants D is bad enough to create good game scripts amd the offense stays healthy
The Frankman
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Again, as a Giants fan his biggest issue is the recognition of pressure and what to do after that recognition (run/juke/throw it away if out of pocket/etc). He doesn't feel pressure or recognize it in his face and that can lead to really bad things. I really don't think camps will open up on time next month and that will delay his progression.
wgoldsph
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Sutton is a big give IMO. Even if you expect good things Sutton already has pedigree.
Yeah that's a big more than I'd be willing to pay, and I love Jones.
But I guess there are some leagues where QBs are are a premium and a young one with potential to be a long time starter can get that. I still wouldn't want to be the one to pay it without something added to the Jones side
The Big Donkey
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Hot Sauce Guy
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Good to hear - I invested a lot to acquire him in a Superflex dynasty, paired with Mahomie, as I only had Carr & Brady, one of whom is super meh, the other is aging out rapidly at 43. Hoping that young duo keeps me set at QB for many years.
Johnny B. Goode
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Thanks man! Please post all updates on your team here because we all really care!
Hot Sauce Guy
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Let me know if you’d like to subscribe to my newsletter. I was thinking about starting a blog, too.
Did you have any thoughts about this player or nah?
Ya I think Daniel Jones is going to take a big step forward this year. Giants offence looks good with a number of weapons.
But I'm more interested in your team...keep posting your waiver transactions here!
Hot Sauce Guy
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so trolling it is. I’ll look forward to one day when you become a contributing member of this forum. good luck on your eventual maturation.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
You do you Hot Sauce Guy. You can be excited about a guy and share why and not enter the here’s my team zone. Ignore the noise.
I think Danny Dimes takes a step forward this year after a year of learning and the game slowing down.
A healthy Engram, and solid connection with slayton will help.
Man I hate Golden Tate. Wouldn’t mind seeing him fading out this year.
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Hot Sauce Guy
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I mean once is a humorous thing - I'll play along. I did just that here. But to continue is just mindless trolling & a distraction, and ironically only one of us was discussing the player in this topic, so...
Sometimes context matters. If I post that I like a guy and later people learn I have him or dealt for him, it can come back as a "oh, so that's why you like the guy". So I occasionally sprinkle in personal anecdotes to hedge against that. Like "here's a dude I paid a lot for, and I'm high on him because...."
I understand there will be the occasional jab - but once a jab turns into a series of comments it just gets annoying. I give as I get.
Agreed - as a Dynasty Engram owner (see what I did there) I am also high on the kid. i think he's knocked at the door of "elite" for a couple years now - health has eluded him. I think he's better than Waller, or a lot of the TEs around his tier. He just needs to stay on the field to prove it. IMO as healthy as Engram can stay, that's where Jones' ceiling is. Having a big dude who mismatches against LBs seems to be key for a lot of young passers.
I also hate Golden Tate. I have lost more important matchups because of that dude, I swear. Last year it was the juggling, bounce the football off his own facemask back into his hands TD that cost me the week. Hate hate hate Tate.
cloppbeast
Footballguy
Daniel Jones is a bum, you'll see.
VikingFrog
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Hot Sauce Guy
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VikingFrog
Footballguy
Barkley and Ingram with the one-two punch.You could get lucky...Mark could get traded?
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
You keep forcing my hand. I have Ingram on this same dynasty squad as Jones & Engram. If Ingram went to NY it would just ruin one more player of mine. Trying to squeeze 16 more doses of magic juice out of those old legs before putting him out to pasture.
If you had actually completed that sentence, then nobody would have had a problem.
You told us about the rest of your roster instead of saying anything about Daniel Jones.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Actually no, I didn't. I described mt aging QB situation, which was relevant to the topic. Unlike this post of yours right here. I'm just sayin.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
My aging QB situation was totally, 100% relevant to my trading for the guy who this topic was about, a 2nd year QB in a Dynasty format.
Your continued focus on me is in no way relevant to this topic.
HTH!
Your aging QB situation is 100% relevant to your team. Your team is 0% relevant to this thread.
HTH!
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
This is a discussion forum. I am one of those discussing Danny Dimes. I happened to have recently acquired him in dynasty, and introduced that related subject to the Daniel Jones topic, a topic about the player I just acquired, with context for why I acquired that player. The player who this discussion is about.
You have now posted 3x, 100% off topic, purely to call me out personally because for some absurd reason you don't approve of my addition to this discussion.
I recommend simply ignoring discussions you aren't interested in for future posts. You'll probably enjoy the forums more. But make no mistake: my post was 100% on-topic. The topic of Daniel Jones. For whom there was a positive news link, which made me optimistic about the player I just acquired.
Thank you for coming to my TED talk, and welcome to ignore.
Hot Sauce Guy
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