Good job!Traded Sutton for him in Superflex, so hoping for big things to come from my QB2 this year & beyond. The fumbles don’t worry me that much....yet. I am assuming the OL will continue by improve & Jones will learn to throw it away more often. He seemed to hold onto the ball just a little too long at times, which isn’t uncommon in young QBs adjusting to the NFL. If he can’t shake that in 2020 it could be more of a problem.
IMO Sutton is a stud. Jury’s way out on whether it was a good deal.Good job!
Tex
The Athletic's Dan Duggan reports Giants QB Daniel Jones is training specifically to increase his ball security this season.
Jones' carelessness handling the ball at Duke (19 fumbles across 36 games) carried over into his rookie year off the bench as the 23-year-old recorded a league-high 18 fumbles across 12 starts. Duggan notes that Danny Dimes has since been training with an emphasis on ball security during the offseason, bulking to 230 pounds (up from 221) for a stronger grip, reaching out to Tony Romo (who infamously began his career with ball issues), and diligently working through drills that are designed for tight pocket movement. Jones flashed highs and lows, notably recording four games of 28-plus fantasy points against poor competition, in place of Eli Manning last year, but any concerted efforts into improving his own glaring weakness is a step in the right direction. Jones is a bet to bounce back as a fringe QB1 for fantasy assuming he survives the Giants' opening murderer's row against the Steelers, in Chicago, versus the Niners, and the team's cross-country bout against the Rams.
SOURCE: The Athletic
Jun 5, 2020, 11:50 AM ET
That seems like pretty high praise saying mid QB1. I would easily have Lamar, Mahommes, Watson, Prescott, Murray ahead of him. So mid says you have him in that next tier? I would have him in QB2 range dynasty and redraft.Mid QB1 next year. Far better rushing ability than I expected and will benefit tremendously from O Line improvements and health from Barkley and the receiving corps
Yes, I would easily take those ahead of him as well. I would have him in the next tier behind Wentz, Allen, Matt Ryan and maybe Stafford.That seems like pretty high praise saying mid QB1. I would easily have Lamar, Mahommes, Watson, Prescott, Murray ahead of him. So mid says you have him in that next tier? I would have him in QB2 range dynasty and redraft.
Again, as a Giants fan his biggest issue is the recognition of pressure and what to do after that recognition (run/juke/throw it away if out of pocket/etc). He doesn't feel pressure or recognize it in his face and that can lead to really bad things. I really don't think camps will open up on time next month and that will delay his progression.Yes, I would easily take those ahead of him as well. I would have him in the next tier behind Wentz, Allen, Matt Ryan and maybe Stafford.
Maybe low QB1, but I could see a finish as high as 5-6 if the Giants D is bad enough to create good game scripts amd the offense stays healthy
Sutton is a big give IMO. Even if you expect good things Sutton already has pedigree.Traded Sutton for him in Superflex, so hoping for big things to come from my QB2 this year & beyond. The fumbles don’t worry me that much....yet. I am assuming the OL will continue by improve & Jones will learn to throw it away more often. He seemed to hold onto the ball just a little too long at times, which isn’t uncommon in young QBs adjusting to the NFL. If he can’t shake that in 2020 it could be more of a problem.
Yeah that's a big more than I'd be willing to pay, and I love Jones.Sutton is a big give IMO. Even if you expect good things Sutton already has pedigree.
https://twitter.com/jmoyerfb/status/1276281657155182592?s=21J Moyer @JMoyerFB
Daniel Jones struggled processing coverage, reading leverage, and anticipating throwing windows both at Duke and during his rookie year. In order to take the next step, he will have to improve on these cognitive traits.
He's a nice grab for QB2 in 2QB leagues. Bad defense, good RB
Meanwhile, on the other side of the ball, quarterback Daniel Jones started slow before finishing strong, completing 15-of-26 passes with two touchdowns (wide receiver David Sills and tight end Kaden Smith) and an interception. The Giants also knocked down two Jones pass attempts at or near the line of scrimmage, and those were credited to Lorenzo Carter and Oshane Ximines.
The command Jones displayed both in the huddle and at the line of scrimmage is what impressed Judge most. Overall, the Giants took a significant step forward with regard to preparing for the upcoming season, especially without any exhibition games between now and the Sept. 14 opener against the Pittsburgh Steelers.
https://twitter.com/art_stapleton/status/1297564675765403649?s=21Art Stapleton @art_stapleton
Giants QB coach Jerry Schuplinski says Daniel Jones' arm looks stronger in person than previously.
https://twitter.com/madelynburke/status/1301538215967547393?s=21Madelyn Burke @MadelynBurke
John Mara on Daniel Jones: "I feel good about him right now, the amount of work he's put in, the way he's looked at camp... I'd like to see him take the next step this year, I'm confident he'll do that... our coaching staff is really high on him right now"
Good to hear - I invested a lot to acquire him in a Superflex dynasty, paired with Mahomie, as I only had Carr & Brady, one of whom is super meh, the other is aging out rapidly at 43. Hoping that young duo keeps me set at QB for many years.
Awesome! Thanks for the update. I was curiousGood to hear - I invested a lot to acquire him in a Superflex dynasty, paired with Mahomie, as I only had Carr & Brady, one of whom is super meh, the other is aging out rapidly at 43. Hoping that young duo keeps me set at QB for many years.
Thanks man! Please post all updates on your team here because we all really care!Good to hear - I invested a lot to acquire him in a Superflex dynasty, paired with Mahomie, as I only had Carr & Brady, one of whom is super meh, the other is aging out rapidly at 43. Hoping that young duo keeps me set at QB for many years.
Let me know if you’d like to subscribe to my newsletter. I was thinking about starting a blog, too.Thanks man! Please post all updates on your team here because we all really care!
Ya I think Daniel Jones is going to take a big step forward this year. Giants offence looks good with a number of weapons.Let me know if you’d like to subscribe to my newsletter. I was thinking about starting a blog, too.
Did you have any thoughts about this player or nah?
so trolling it is. I’ll look forward to one day when you become a contributing member of this forum. good luck on your eventual maturation.But I'm more interested in your team...keep posting your waiver transactions here!
You do you Hot Sauce Guy. You can be excited about a guy and share why and not enter the here’s my team zone. Ignore the noise.so trolling it is. I’ll look forward to one day when you become a contributing member of this forum. good luck on your eventual maturation.
I mean once is a humorous thing - I'll play along. I did just that here. But to continue is just mindless trolling & a distraction, and ironically only one of us was discussing the player in this topic, so...You do you Hot Sauce Guy. You can be excited about a guy and share why and not enter the here’s my team zone. Ignore the noise.
Agreed - as a Dynasty Engram owner (see what I did there) I am also high on the kid. i think he's knocked at the door of "elite" for a couple years now - health has eluded him. I think he's better than Waller, or a lot of the TEs around his tier. He just needs to stay on the field to prove it. IMO as healthy as Engram can stay, that's where Jones' ceiling is. Having a big dude who mismatches against LBs seems to be key for a lot of young passers.I think Danny Dimes takes a step forward this year after a year of learning and the game slowing down.
A healthy Ingram, and solid connection with slayton will help.
I also hate Golden Tate. I have lost more important matchups because of that dude, I swear. Last year it was the juggling, bounce the football off his own facemask back into his hands TD that cost me the week. Hate hate hate Tate.Man I hate Golden Tate. Wouldn’t mind seeing him fading out this year.
I’m only upset that you quoted me before I could fix my misspelling of Engram.I mean once is a humorous thing - I'll play along. I did just that here. But to continue is just mindless trolling & a distraction, and ironically only one of us was discussing the player in this topic, so...
Sometimes context matters. If I post that I like a guy and later people learn I have him or dealt for him, it can come back as a "oh, so that's why you like the guy". So I occasionally sprinkle in personal anecdotes to hedge against that. Like "here's a dude I paid a lot for, and I'm high on him because...."
I understand there will be the occasional jab - but once a jab turns into a series of comments it just gets annoying. I give as I get.
Agreed - as a Dynasty Engram owner (see what I did there) I am also high on the kid. i think he's knocked at the door of "elite" for a couple years now - health has eluded him. I think he's better than Waller, or a lot of the TEs around his tier. He just needs to stay on the field to prove it. IMO as healthy as Engram can stay, that's where Jones' ceiling is. Having a big dude who mismatches against LBs seems to be key for a lot of young passers.
I also hate Golden Tate. I have lost more important matchups because of that dude, I swear. Last year it was the juggling, bounce the football off his own facemask back into his hands TD that cost me the week. Hate hate hate Tate.
You could get lucky...Mark could get traded?I’m only upset that you quoted me before I could fix my misspelling of Engram.
Barkley and Ingram with the one-two punch.You could get lucky...Mark could get traded?
You keep forcing my hand. I have Ingram on this same dynasty squad as Jones & Engram. If Ingram went to NY it would just ruin one more player of mine. Trying to squeeze 16 more doses of magic juice out of those old legs before putting him out to pasture.Barkley and Ingram with the one-two punch.
Seriously it was a cool story bro!so trolling it is. I’ll look forward to one day when you become a contributing member of this forum. good luck on your eventual maturation.
If you had actually completed that sentence, then nobody would have had a problem.Like "here's a dude I paid a lot for, and I'm high on him because...."
Actually no, I didn't. I described mt aging QB situation, which was relevant to the topic. Unlike this post of yours right here. I'm just sayin.If you had actually completed that sentence, then nobody would have had a problem.
You told us about the rest of your roster instead of saying anything about Daniel Jones.
Your aging QB situation is in no way relevant to the topic.Actually no, I didn't. I described mt aging QB situation, which was relevant to the topic. Unlike this post of yours right here. I'm just sayin.
My aging QB situation was totally, 100% relevant to my trading for the guy who this topic was about, a 2nd year QB in a Dynasty format.Your aging QB situation is in no way relevant to the topic.
Your aging QB situation is 100% relevant to your team. Your team is 0% relevant to this thread.My aging QB situation was totally, 100% relevant to my trading for the guy who this topic was about, a 2nd year QB in a Dynasty format.
Your continued focus on me is in no way relevant to this topic.
HTH!
This is a discussion forum. I am one of those discussing Danny Dimes. I happened to have recently acquired him in dynasty, and introduced that related subject to the Daniel Jones topic, a topic about the player I just acquired, with context for why I acquired that player. The player who this discussion is about.Your aging QB situation is 100% relevant to your team. Your team is 0% relevant to this thread.
HTH!