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End of the month, its been brutally harsh weatherwise in Minn. Make an offer, they may just go for it.
I am not a good negotiator so I tend to focus on FMV (fair market value).
have a 14 diesel mega cab now. Nothing but problems. Use it for camping, pulling trailer, hunting etc.
Not all are 76K, but yes new trucks are very expensive (as are used trucks).
Even better when the owner of a $60k truck (or Mercedes) is living in an apartment complex or renting in a 3 story apartment.
Ya, I used to live in a less than savory part of town. Houses were 100+ years old, and not in great condition. We saw multiple drug deals go down in the alley behind our house, which is unsettling when you have three kids under 10 playing in the yard. But, there were full sized SUVs with tricked out rims, Lexus, Cadillacs, and Mercedes all around the neighborhoods.
Yup. I like to email three local dealers and let them all know that the cheapest price gets my business.
If I could ask a potentially dumb question - but why is a F350 limited 2-3x as expensive as the F350 XL or XLT? Same 6.2L V8, same horsepower, torque, towing capability and warranty. That sticker price is damn near what I paid for my first condo - a 2 bedroom one bath in Norfolk, VA.
...on a car adds what, 50% to sticker maximum. Why does it triple the price of a truck?
Diesel engine for one. Massage seats etc.
That’s exactly what I recently did. You quickly get down to the nuts and bolts. Deal was done in a couple days. At the end I had dealers throwing in free oil changes etc. That’s when I knew the prices weren’t going any lower.
Yes, trucks do hold their value a ridiculous amount. Will that still be the case for one that starts so high, though?
I agree. Thats why I am nervous. I typically keep my vehicles until the wheels fall off (My other car is an 09 Honda Fit) but my current Ram has been nothing but problems. Last vacation the transmission went out while ending our family vacation to KY. Granted it was covered by warranty (9K without warranty). I have only 55K on it.
Odd pair of vehicles. You really can't get much more different.
Family vacation vehicle. Towing 35' camper. Hunting. Utility vehicle. Daily driver. I work from home but would DD it for everything except going to airport. I use diesel because towing with 1/2 ton sucks. Feels like youre going to get sucked under the tires of semi's. With a diesel you dont even feel it back there. Plus when you pull into a campground all the other men that do not drive diesels look up wishing they did. Got to show them Im a FBG!
If you want the invoice, go to www.costcoauto.com. Add your vehicle->"Configure"->"Build Vehicle"
Well dang. Thanks for the info. Wish you would have posted this 3 seconds ago as i just clicked send on my email. What about it being end of month? what if they need to hit their number. Plus I figured we had to start at some number. But if what you are saying is true. No way we come together. Not paying 76K for a truck i can get for 66K with 10k miles on it used.
Go big or go home. I dont live in a McMansion nor do i want to. I do however enjoy big trucks.
I know what you mean. My four banger grocery getter can tow up to 2k as long as it has it's own brakes.
Good article.
Yeah I nearly laid a turd right on the Ford showroom floor a few years bac when I saw the sticker on a decked out truck. My wife and I were buying a Focus (a whopping $16k).
It's not a 5er. I dont like how they pull and backing up sucks in them. Plus i dont like giving up all the bed space to carry junk. Not to mention that they are typically 10K more to start. I use a load leveler and a bumper pull pulls like a dream. I shake my head when i see 3/4 and 1 ton truck pulling a bumper pull camper without load levelers. So dangerous but they think because their truck is so much bigger it will be ok.And OP, I am sick with envy. I bet it’s a blast to tool around in a truck like that. I assume you have a 5th wheel since you mentioned camping.
I think I need a better job
I hear what you’re saying, but “Invoice” now isn’t the same as before the internet when “Invoice” was a more secret number reflecting dealer costs. Now manufacturers build more profit into the invoice.
Now we're cooking with gas! This is exactly what i thought. I offered 63. Because you're right, The 18's I saw listed at 65K with 10K was the 'asking' price. My understanding is you are also correct with eating depreciation. They get the vehicles from ford interest free for so many days. after that they need to pay the interest on them. 256 days at the dealership is A LONG time.
Dealers always overprice good looking used cars for more than market value to start. All it takes is one sucker to overpay. Did you look at the options on the used one? What if the MSRP on that one was $95k? What if it was $75k? Options on a $80k+ vehicle can easily impact the MSRP by over five figures. It's not an apples to apples comparison.
No but they lost a bunch when the 19's hit the floor. Now the 20's order date has been released. There is a mid-model update in the 20's also. They are changing transmissions likely to a 10 speed. So the value just went down again. heck if this keeps up he's going to be paying me!
Of all things, a used bmw. Last 4 vehicles I had were Toyotas (Lexus, OLD Landcruiser which was a beast that I still miss, a Tundra, and a Highlander). I was sticking with Toyota, but the prices were a little much for what I need nowadays. I still would rather have a Tacoma right now, knowing it could go to 2030 or more. But the smaller/suv was quite a bit less, with about half the miles as I could find on any Tacoma in the same price range. And I looked for months, did enough research. So we'll see if that was a good decision or not, but I've been in it for a year now and it has far exceeded my expectations, time will tell.
