Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Weren't they at LSU earlier in the year? They will likely be at LSU-Alabama in two weeks too.
The FCS gamedays are some of the best. NDSU represents. JMU filled the place twice. This one looks well attended too.
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The FCS gamedays are some of the best. NDSU represents. JMU filled the place twice. This one looks well attended too.
gump
Footballguy
That’s the part most don’t quite give full credit for...it’s not less hours, it’s different hours.
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Capella
Footballguy
Those places have plenty of game days. Lol at top-10 programs feeling shunned. Geez.
Capella
Footballguy
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Harder is so subjective - I’d much rather spend extra hours working (game planning) than sucking up and networking (recruiting). IMO, you can’t categorically state it’s harder if you don’t say what is harder. Harder to win, harder on your family life, harder to stay employed?
Capella
Footballguy
Extremely harder to win on game days and to also to stay employed. How many nfl coaches have ever had a Bowden/Bear/Bo/Woody length of employment? Or Saban-length now. The guy at Iowa has been there 20 years for going 7-5 every season. Try that in the nfl if you aren’t coaching the bengals.
I’m sure both are very stressful on family life but most of these guys on both levels seem like sociopaths that don’t care about that.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Jalen Hurts 
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
You can throw out the records when the Dakota Marker is on the line.SHIZNITTTT said:
Today marks the 110th meeting between the two. Just because it’s not your beloved OU blowing out K-State is no reason to turn your nose up at it
#RaiseTheRock
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Steve Tasker
Footballguy
I'll weigh in on the "harder" debate with my experience with coaches who had coached at both levels. Specifically one guy who was a QB coach/OC in the Big 12, ACC, and several mid-majors + WR coach in the NFL for a few years, and another who was a mid-major OL/TE coach + position-less offensive assistant in the NFL.
They both were pretty adamant that they considered the NFL to be the cushier job. I'm not sure they ever really said that it's an "easier" job, because the hours are the hours and the stress is the stress, but what they would really harp on is how much extracurricular work you need to do at the college level. Not just recruiting, which is a ##### but was more of an offseason role for both of these guys (they were not our recruiting coordinators or anything like that), but the other stuff.
When you're coaching in the NFL, your job is football gameplanning. You go to work, you gameplan, you watch film, you have meetings, you have practice, you go home. The players on your team already know how to know how to play their positions. They're adults. There are veterans on the team who keep the younger players in line. You don't need to babysit your players - they are grown men, professionals.
When you're coaching in college, you have a drastically different role. Many of your players are very raw for their position. You need to focus less on gameplanning against your specific opponent and more on fundamentals, actual on-field coaching. But more than that, you essentially become a surrogate father-figure for your players. The veterans on your team are like 21 years old and aren't much more emotionally mature than your 18 year old freshmen. Many players come from questionable home situations, and it's their first time away from home. You, their position coach, are responsible for making sure he's going to class. For making sure his homework is getting done. That he's not out partying every night. That he's eating right and taking care of himself. That he's not depressed or having emotional problems being 2000 miles from home. You essentially become a surrogate father to the ~10 players in your position group for 4 years. You are the role model. Oh, but you guys went 3-9 last year because you had to deal with all this other off the field ####? Sorry, you're fired.
They both were pretty adamant that they considered the NFL to be the cushier job. I'm not sure they ever really said that it's an "easier" job, because the hours are the hours and the stress is the stress, but what they would really harp on is how much extracurricular work you need to do at the college level. Not just recruiting, which is a ##### but was more of an offseason role for both of these guys (they were not our recruiting coordinators or anything like that), but the other stuff.
When you're coaching in the NFL, your job is football gameplanning. You go to work, you gameplan, you watch film, you have meetings, you have practice, you go home. The players on your team already know how to know how to play their positions. They're adults. There are veterans on the team who keep the younger players in line. You don't need to babysit your players - they are grown men, professionals.
When you're coaching in college, you have a drastically different role. Many of your players are very raw for their position. You need to focus less on gameplanning against your specific opponent and more on fundamentals, actual on-field coaching. But more than that, you essentially become a surrogate father-figure for your players. The veterans on your team are like 21 years old and aren't much more emotionally mature than your 18 year old freshmen. Many players come from questionable home situations, and it's their first time away from home. You, their position coach, are responsible for making sure he's going to class. For making sure his homework is getting done. That he's not out partying every night. That he's eating right and taking care of himself. That he's not depressed or having emotional problems being 2000 miles from home. You essentially become a surrogate father to the ~10 players in your position group for 4 years. You are the role model. Oh, but you guys went 3-9 last year because you had to deal with all this other off the field ####? Sorry, you're fired.
WDIK2
Footballguy
I believe the college position coach job is tougher than the NFL position coach job. The college position coach is the road warrior and scout for recruiting with the HC coming in to close the deal often times. Plus all the immaturity/baby sitting stuff you mentioned.
Not sure if anyone is talking about position coaches though. I don't think Lincoln Riley would be heading to the NFL to be an OC or coach QBs.
Cap brought up Ferentz at Iowa. Completely depends on expectations and history. Iowa might be content with 4-loss seasons with a couple better seasons sprinkled in, but that is not going to fly at Alabama.
DallasDMac
Footballguy
Looks like OSU forgot there is two halves to a game. Came out of the locker room totally sleepwalking.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Thanks for playing, Badgers.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Capella
Footballguy
I don’t know how long I can fight this offK-State just recovered a fumble kickoff too
Gopher State
Footballguy
Golden Gophers loving what OSU is doing to the Badgers.
jplvr
Footballguy
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
That throw on 2nd and long from Thompson was insane.
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
OU it was a good run.
Mr.Pack
Footballguy
Moe.
Footballguy
I think you’re good, they are past being on the ropes and just trying to keep it respectable
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
K State trying to reverse-cover the 24 point spread.
WDIK2
Footballguy
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
This is what you get for cracking on the South Dakota State - North Dakota State rivalry.
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
If Jalen stayed at Alabama he is starting on an undefeated team leading them to a possible Championship.
Politician Spock
Footballguy
Moe.
Footballguy
Did you forget about Tua? I don’t think he made the move to win, he wanted to improve as a passer so he has a shot at the next level.
Politician Spock
Footballguy
Politician Spock
Footballguy
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
It wasn’t necessarily a prediction. I was cracking Shiz for cracking on today’s GameDay location.
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