Mogilny snubbed againPretty underwhelming HHOF class IMO.
@TSN_Sports: Hayley Wickenheiser, Sergei Zubov, Guy Carbonneau, Vaclav Nedomansky, Jerry York and Jim Rutherford have been elected as the Hockey Hall of Fame class of 2019 https://twitter.com/TSN_Sports/status/1143596469435478016/photo/1
ETA- except for Hayley
scooter Magruder would of done it better
Sad to see Carl go - there were a few times he lifted the team to victory alone. But there were plenty of times he disappeared for long long stretches - this last playoff run was one of them.Avs traded Soderberg to Airzona. Have massive cap space. Are they going after big guys like Marner and Panarin?
lol, Couver deserves it. Luongo gets the last laughLuongo retiring: https://www.nhl.com/panthers/news/luongos-open-letter-to-the-fans/c-308071408
going to stick Couver with a $3MM cap recapture penalty for the next 3 years too.
VGK getting a conditional fifth as well. Haven’t seen the terms of condition yet. This trade helps both teams though.VGK chipping away at Cap space
@PuckPedia: Per @JesseGranger_ & @PierreVLeBrun, #VGK trades 28 y/o LW Haula to #Hurricanes for 22 y/o C Roy.
Haula: Yr 3/3 $2.75M Cap Hit then UFA
Roy: Final yr $720K Cap Hit then RFA.
https://puckpedia.com/trade/148
I can’t imagine that. They’ll dump somebody if they have to.If the Lightning sign Pavelski, are they basically giving him Point's money?
It’s hot af here right now thoughpretty neat that everyone wants to play in Tampa
I don't think there's any chance Point signs for $6.5. Maybe I'm wrong though. Lots of guys take less than they get down there.Most projections have Point getting around 6.5 even on a bridge contract. I can't see Pavelski signing for less than 7.
Let's just say that both players really like Tampa and Bolts sign both for 12.
That would put them at 1.4 over with 18 signed. Only 10 forwards counting Cirelli and Joseph.
https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/lightning
ETA 4 of the 8 forwards currently on roster have NTC or NMC. A 5th, Gourde, has a NTC kick in on July 1. Maybe he gets moved to sign both?
They like the free time and weather in April.It’s hot af here right now though
Still no state income tax in Florida right? Big difference.I don't think there's any chance Point signs for $6.5. Maybe I'm wrong though. Lots of guys take less than they get down there.
Not a dime.Still no state income tax in Florida right? Big difference.
yes, that definitely plays a role but how big is it? Doesn't that only apply to games played in Florida, so games played in other states or Canada are all taxed differently?Still no state income tax in Florida right? Big difference.
I think it’s a lot weirder that Kuch only gets 9.5yes, that definitely plays a role but how big is it? Doesn't that only apply to games played in Florida, so games played in other states or Canada are all taxed differently?
regardless of taxes, it would look weird if Point signs for $6.5 and then Aho gets $10MM or something.
him and Stamkos both underpaid. Yzerman was a magician.I think it’s a lot weirder that Kuch only gets 9.5
I mean we joke about tv ratings in here and why nobody cares but that’s pretty much the long and short of it.NFL more than tripled, NBA more than double, MLB almost triple
nhl up 2 million
I've read they are taxed based on where they play each game.yes, that definitely plays a role but how big is it? Doesn't that only apply to games played in Florida, so games played in other states or Canada are all taxed differently?
regardless of taxes, it would look weird if Point signs for $6.5 and then Aho gets $10MM or something.
Jordan taxI've read they are taxed based on where they play each game.
https://theathletic.com/1049663/2019/06/28/dgb-grab-bag-breaking-down-the-hhof-class-of-2019-a-taxing-debate-and-inside-the-goaltenders-mind/Debating the issues
This week’s debate: With free agency just around the corner, the threat of offer sheets looming, and several stars eligible to sign extensions, we could see plenty of big contracts handed out over the next few days. But will the players signing them be making the right decisions?
In favor: Well, let’s hope so. The CBA puts all sorts of limits on how much a player can earn and where they can go, so when the opportunity to negotiate comes around, they should take advantage. Careers are short, so get the best deal you can.
Opposed: True. But we should also remember that there’s more to a good contract than the dollars involved. It can’t always be all about the money.
In favor: No, and it never is. But money is important, and the players have a right to get as much as they can.
Opposed: Sure, to an extent. But there’s a balancing act there, right? Team fit and opportunity matters too, and so should winning. If you squeeze every penny you can out of your deal, are you hurting your team’s chance of building a Cup-worthy roster?
In favor: Maybe. So what? That’s not your problem.
Opposed: Except it kind of is. If a player tries to max out their earnings at every opportunity, that’s going to impact their team’s ability to win. Maybe that’s not fair, but it’s reality, and it’s not unreasonable to point it out.
That guy: Oh hey guys, mind if I interrupt?
In favor: Uh, we were kind of in the middle of something.
That guy: Yes, I see that, but I think there’s an important factor here that you’re not considering.
Opposed: And that is …
That guy: Taxes!
In favor: Oh no.
Opposed: Not this guy.
That guy: I am aware of the existence of taxes. Are you?
In favor: It’s the guy who can’t let any discussion of player contracts go by without making it all about taxes.
That guy: Tax rates can vary depending on state or province. This is advanced financial knowledge that you probably don’t possess.
Opposed: Literally everyone already knows this.
That guy: Sometimes taxes are high, and sometimes they are low.
In favor: We know.
That guy: From a player’s perspective, low would be better. I ran the numbers.
Opposed: Please go away.
That guy: It’s just that this is a factor that’s rarely discussed …
In favor: No it isn’t. Maybe it used to be. But at some point in the last few years, everyone apparently got a memo about taxes and now it comes up in every discussion. Taxes are low in Florida and Texas and high in California and most of Canada. We get it!
That guy: But that changes all the calculations, doesn’t it?
In favor: Not really, no. Or at least not as much as everyone thinks. These are professionals making millions of dollars, and they have financial advisors and accountants and people whose job it is to think about this stuff. And they play road games, so even a player who signs in a tax-free area would still pay tax on nearly half their earnings. And that doesn’t even factor in federal taxes, or where they might live in the offseason, or how their bonuses are structured, or any other legal tricks they could use to alleviate their immediate tax obligations. One expert ran the numbers on Mark Stone’s deal and found that the tax impact was in the high five figures on a nearly $10 million deal. That’s not nothing, but it’s not the millions and millions of dollars some fans seem to think are in play here.
That guy: Yes, but on the other hand … taxes.
Opposed: Dude, go away.
That guy: Look, can we just admit that taxes are a factor?
In favor: Sure, one of many. So are endorsement opportunities, and currency conversions, and post-career earning potential. And so are quality of life and local schools and weather and golf and family. There are dozens of factors that go into these decisions. Taxes matter, of course, but it’s truly weird that we all just apparently decided they were the most important thing and had to be mentioned constantly.
That guy: I just really want you to know that I once read an article about taxes.
The final verdict: The only certainties in life are death and this guy showing up in every conversation you’re going to have in the next week.
I thought Az took on Datsyuk's salary to hit the floor?Datsyuk? But he was good in Detroit. Giving 3 years to Marleau was madness.
Edit: also, his cap hit was higher and he retired. They still got picks 20 and 53 back in return for Datsyuk and pick 16. So not sure it compares.
that's correct. they were helped because he had a cap hit with no salary owed. so makes some sense why Detroit didn't have to pay a higher price to get Datsyuk off their books.I thought Az took on Datsyuk's salary to hit the floor?
JaxBill said:@CapFriendly: TRADE:
To Colorado #Avalanche:
F Andre Burakovsky
To Washington #Capitals:
F Scott Kosmachuk (Group 6 UFA)
2020 2nd round pick (COL)
2020 3rd round pick (ARI)
https://www.capfriendly.com/trades
seems like a steep price, but he could do well with a change of scenery. interested to see what type of contract they give him.Good deal for Colorado?
well that seals it, our Avs are winning the cup next seasonJaxBill said:@CapFriendly: TRADE:
To Colorado #Avalanche:
F Andre Burakovsky
To Washington #Capitals:
F Scott Kosmachuk (Group 6 UFA)
2020 2nd round pick (COL)
2020 3rd round pick (ARI)
https://www.capfriendly.com/trades
Definitely works out for both teams. Vgk gets closer to the cap. Colin probably plays top 4 defensively for Buffalo. GG said he didn’t like how Colin prepped for games and that was what led to the G1 benching vs SJS.Love the trade. Easier to trade Risto for a top-6 forward now.
2nd is for 2021 too. Huge steal.Definitely works out for both teams. Vgk gets closer to the cap. Colin probably plays top 4 defensively for Buffalo. GG said he didn’t like how Colin prepped for games and that was what led to the G1 benching vs SJS.
Second rounder is also Stl’s and not Buffalo’s.