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LeSean McCoy (1 Viewer)

Hot Sauce Guy said:
He will look terrible in KC, just like he looks terrible anywhere right now. Dude is on his last legs.

If KC gets him though it kind of screws the D Thompson owners 
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McCoy can still make guys miss in the open field. No team gives its RB's more open field than KC. There are worse ideas for depth(one was Hyde)

 
travdogg said:
McCoy can still make guys miss in the open field. No team gives its RB's more open field than KC. There are worse ideas for depth(one was Hyde)
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 I’m not sure what you’re basing this on. The McCoy I saw last year was a shell of his former self who made nobody miss in any kind of field.  

And compared to what KC has  on the roster already, I just don’t see any point of bringing him in. They might as well have kept Hyde.  :shrug:

 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
 I’m not sure what you’re basing this on. The McCoy I saw last year was a shell of his former self who made nobody miss in any kind of field.  

And compared to what KC has  on the roster already, I just don’t see any point of bringing him in. They might as well have kept Hyde.  :shrug:
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McCoy was pretty banged up last year, and never saw much open field behind a garbage line, that Buffalo agreed was garbage and completely overhauled. McCoy looked fine in 2017, and downright elite in 2016. I'm not saying 2016 McCoy will ever be back, obviously,  but there is a chance 2018 was a little situation based. People thought Peterson was done after an awful year 2 years ago, and he still had something left. 

McCoy is twice the RB Hyde is, especially in the passing game, and fits the offense better. 

I'll agree that he probably isn't better than what they have, but maybe they'll want a veteran presence considering their top 2 RB's are a rookie, and a guy with 183 career carries. 

 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
 I’m not sure what you’re basing this on. The McCoy I saw last year was a shell of his former self who made nobody miss in any kind of field.  

And compared to what KC has  on the roster already, I just don’t see any point of bringing him in. They might as well have kept Hyde.  :shrug:
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think you might be jumping the gun on his funeral there, GB

 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
 I’m not sure what you’re basing this on. The McCoy I saw last year was a shell of his former self who made nobody miss in any kind of field.  

And compared to what KC has  on the roster already, I just don’t see any point of bringing him in. They might as well have kept Hyde.  :shrug:
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Trying to figure out how to say this... Did you really see McCoy last year? I watched every Bills game intently, as always. I would have to say I didn't see McCoy, period. The run blocking was so terrible that you can't judge an RB in that situation.

I do believe that he's lost a little bit of a step from a couple years ago, but this preseason showed he still has some juice. As I've said in other threads, I have no doubt he will come in an contribute to another team. Depending on the situation he could still have some decent FF value, too.

 
Grigs Allmoon said:
Trying to figure out how to say this... Did you really see McCoy last year? I watched every Bills game intently, as always. I would have to say I didn't see McCoy, period. The run blocking was so terrible that you can't judge an RB in that situation.

I do believe that he's lost a little bit of a step from a couple years ago, but this preseason showed he still has some juice. As I've said in other threads, I have no doubt he will come in an contribute to another team. Depending on the situation he could still have some decent FF value, too.
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I guess I base my assessment more on box scores & highlights (er, lowlights) 

when I watched him in the coupe of Bills games I was subjected to, I saw him dance behind the line & get hit a lot. 

He looked slow & indecisive.

i concede that may be 100% on the OL. But dudes been a fade for several years for me. He’s looked like a shell of his former self.

but I have not seen him this preseason. So I’ll have to take your word about how good he looks. 

 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
I guess I base my assessment more on box scores & highlights (er, lowlights) 

when I watched him in the coupe of Bills games I was subjected to, I saw him dance behind the line & get hit a lot. 

He looked slow & indecisive.

i concede that may be 100% on the OL. But dudes been a fade for several years for me. He’s looked like a shell of his former self.

but I have not seen him this preseason. So I’ll have to take your word about how good he looks. 
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Everything you said indicates a terrible line that doesn't open up holes and do their job and almost any player will look bad behind that.  

Now, you may be right, regardless-just saying that, given the historical tendency of the Bill the past...forever, it wouldn't surprise me if what we saw was more about the bills than Shady McCoy.  Add to the discussion that a player like McCoy who might end up on a tea that is actually having some legitimate aspirations (Chargers, maybe) and you may see an inspired Shady perform very well.  

I'm not a Bills expert...Dont watch them much and I might be wrong on this but my casual remembrance of the bills last year was they had no legitimate threat in the passing game and a bad line and those two things usually don't help Rbs at all. 

Also, given that there are several teams that seem to have a good amount of interest in him, that makes me think that the consensus is that he, as a player, is not what we are calling him here in this thread.  

 
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Shutout said:
Everything you said indicates a terrible line that doesn't open up holes and do their job and almost any player will look bad behind that.  

Now, you may be right, regardless-just saying that, given the historical tendency of the Bill the past...forever, it wouldn't surprise me if what we saw was more about the bills than Shady McCoy.  Add to the discussion that a player like McCoy who might end up on a tea that is actually having some legitimate aspirations (Chargers, maybe) and you may see an inspired Shady perform very well.  

I'm not a Bills expert...Dont watch them much and I might be wrong on this but my casual remembrance of the bills last year was they had no legitimate threat in the passing game and a bad line and those two things usually don't help Rbs at all. 

Also, given that there are several teams that seem to have a good amount of interest in him, that makes me think that the consensus is that he, as a player, is not what we are calling him here in this thread.  
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Or maybe they think he’s a safe depth option. 

I can’t imagine he starting over Eckeler/Jackson. I can’t imagine him toting the rock ahead of Michele or getting catches ahead of white.   :shrug:

 
If Frank Gore has a role in this league still McCoy does for sure. He’ll shift to a pass catching, third down back who is great in pass protection and loved in the locker room. They used McCoy to get Gore here and then Singletary popped more than anticipated.  Paying Yeldon, Gore, Singletary way less than McCoy was getting.  

I could see KC, LAC, NE in that order.  GB a possibility. 

 
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Hot Sauce Guy said:
Or maybe they think he’s a safe depth option. 

I can’t imagine he starting over Eckeler/Jackson. I can’t imagine him toting the rock ahead of Michele or getting catches ahead of white.   :shrug:
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I can't say I am more knowledgeable than the next guy on whether any of that is likely or not but, as a reply, I'll say IF what we saw was more about the Bills than Shady, then Shady at even 80% or so of what he has been throughout his career is worth looking at and perhaps a better option than Ekeler (Chargers don't seem inclined to ride him like a horse).

I wouldn't think he is a better option that a healthy Michele at this point but Michele has been banged up a lot and it IS the Patriots, who seem to have an excellent track record of taking guys who we all think are done but they turn out awesome.  I mean, didn't they make Lagarett Blount and the guy from Cincy a few years ago look like pro-bowlers?  

I would say the simple answer to this is if he signs with some in the next few days, they obviously see him as having some value and for FF players, that value may be the second half of the season instead of the first half but, hey, a rested and productive Shady on my FF team in week 9-15 or so...yeah, I'm not ignoring that. 

 
Shutout said:
I can't say I am more knowledgeable than the next guy on whether any of that is likely or not but, as a reply, I'll say IF what we saw was more about the Bills than Shady, then Shady at even 80% or so of what he has been throughout his career is worth looking at and perhaps a better option than Ekeler (Chargers don't seem inclined to ride him like a horse).
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I’m not ready to concede that it was more about the Bills than Shady, and I don’t know if McCoy is 80% of what used to be. 

And even if he is today, that doesn't mean he’s going to hold up for a 16 game season.

you’d be hard pressed to find many RBs past 30 who’ve performed well. 

The last 4 years he’s started 12, 15, 14, 13 games. He’s also suffered his fair share of injuries in his career not saying he’s injury prone, but the miles add up. 

I wouldn't think he is a better option that a healthy Michele at this point but Michele has been banged up a lot and it IS the Patriots, who seem to have an excellent track record of taking guys who we all think are done but they turn out awesome.  
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But Michele is healthy & looks fantastic this preseason. And the irony of calling out Michele for health when McCoy has had a ton of injuries over the years is thick 

yes, the Pats have turned guys like Corey Dillon & Blount I to stars. That’s true. And if McCoy goes there I have no doubt he’ll excel at whatever role they put him in. 

But I suspect it would be some kind of hybrid receiving role to take some of the targets that would have otherwise gone to the TEs. I don’t think he’d be any threat to Michele’s touches. 

I mean, didn't they make Lagarett Blount and the guy from Cincy a few years ago look like pro-bowlers?  
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both Blount & Dillion played well for them. Worth noting, Dillon was 30 when he signed there, and he had an awesome year. At 31 his numbers fell off a cliff. 

Blount was more of a specialist. Signed at 27 he was used primarily as a rusher. He only caught like ~40 passes in 8 years.  

I would say the simple answer to this is if he signs with some in the next few days, they obviously see him as having some value and for FF players, that value may be the second half of the season instead of the first half but, hey, a rested and productive Shady on my FF team in week 9-15 or so...yeah, I'm not ignoring that. 
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Yes - and that value could be roster depth, receiving skills, or “let’s see if he has anything left in the tank & how cheaply we can get him”

maybe he’s still got something - I dunno.

i do know that a lot of football people smarter than me seem to think he’s not that good any more. 

 
bumpman said:
Heard McCoy is getting $4M with three guaranteed.  That's more than Williams.
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Yep. He'll start. I roster Williams and even I can see the tea leaves.

dkp993 said:
Yep I’m F’d.  Have a fair number of shares of DW
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Argh.

eta* Not only did I earnestly and truly get sniped the pick before me on McCoy, he then ruined my 3.12. Thanks, Shady and Buffalo.

 
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I only have one share of DWill but he’s going to kill teams that took him early, especially if he’s your RB1. The risk was baked into his ADP which was high to begin with.

Congrats to Shady owners who got this guy with your last pick. He’s an RB2 in KC. Williams is a low end RB2/flex in PPR.

 
Well, the Chiefs were really the one team I thought he could land on and still have value. The Chiefs will be able to get him into the open field where he can still do some damage. I'm somewhat surprised that the Chiefs signed him as Andy Reid isn't typically a RBBC guy and I don't really think McCoy is a workhorse at this point. So it will be interesting to see how carries get split up in KC. 

Talk about a really interesting turn of events. Good for Shady.

 
ponchsox said:
I only have one share of DWill but he’s going to kill teams that took him early, especially if he’s your RB1. The risk was baked into his ADP which was high to begin with.
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That risk wasn’t built in at all. 

The injury risk dropped him to 3rd round. 

The “Andy Reid  getting starry eyed for years past by bringing in a former star running back to turn this backfield into a RBBC from hell”  was not remotely factored into his price. 

DWill  investors got F‘d. 

 
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