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On 3/23/2020 at 8:12 PM, bradyfan said:

China CDC Situation Report on Mar-23 
31 Provinces & XPCC - including imported
  Suspected: 132 (+35
  Confirmed: 81171 (+78
  Severe: 1573 (-176
  Dead: 3277 (+7
  Recovered: 73159 (+456
  Close contacts traced: 691185 and 12077 still under medical observation 
“Imported” from other countries - Confirmed: 427 (+74
Hong Kong - Confirmed: 356 (Dead: 4, Recovered: 101) 
Macau - Confirmed: 25 (Recovered: 10) 
Taiwan - Confirmed: 195 (Dead: 2, Recovered: 29)

China CDC Situation Report on Mar-24
31 Provinces & XPCC - including imported
  Suspected: 134 (+33
  Confirmed: 81218 (+47
  Severe: 1399 (-174)  
  Dead: 3281 (+4
  Recovered: 73650 (+491
  Close contacts traced: 693223 and 13356 still under medical observation 
“Imported” from other countries - Confirmed: 474 (+47
Hong Kong - Confirmed: 386 (Dead: 4, Recovered: 102) 
Macau - Confirmed: 26 (Recovered: 10) 
Taiwan - Confirmed: 216 (Dead: 2, Recovered: 29)

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6 minutes ago, Cowboysfan8 said:

No doubt

Lots of bending here and I don’t think anyone is trying to catch anyone 🤷🏻‍♂️

Most likely way anyone will get caught is someone inside the company rats on them. I’ve seen a lot of stuff on social media from the AG with the number to call to anonymously report violations. I think Michigan is going to try. We have the 4th highest number of cases. A Detroit Cop, 38 with no known health issues just died from it. A couple hundred Detroit cops are quarantined. It’s looking like it will get ugly here.

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Is there a good resource that gives an idea of total number of tests done relative to the confirmed cases with the daily updates? I know we’ve ramped up this week but how much?

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CNN reporting 160 deaths today in the USA.  A sad development.

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4 minutes ago, Ilov80s said:

Most likely way anyone will get caught is someone inside the company rats on them. I’ve seen a lot of stuff on social media from the AG with the number to call to anonymously report violations. I think Michigan is going to try. We have the 4th highest number of cases. A Detroit Cop, 38 with no known health issues just died from it. A couple hundred Detroit cops are quarantined. It’s looking like it will get ugly here.

Sorry man

Stay safe

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No package deal will be voted on tonight. Now maybe in the morning. 

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1 minute ago, CurlyNight said:

No package deal will be voted on tonight. Now maybe in the morning. 

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2 hours ago, Terminalxylem said:

I'm not normally stressed to go to work. This is an extreme situation. We've cordoned off an entire ward for COVID patients and rule outs, and set up a tent to see patients in front of the hospital. We don't have enough rapid test kits or masks. And this is still early. There are three more stages of disaster mitigation planned, and hospital personnel believe all will likely be called into play.

No one has "hitched their wagon" to my stats. They're paying attention to the flood of data around the world from infectious disease experts and epidemiologists, and not getting lost in interpretation of early and incomplete numbers, which invariably will worsen as our healthcare system is taxed.

We don't have it under control. That is what I'm trying to communicate, and dismissive posts run counter to that effort. If you want to be a contrarian, fine, but for you wife and many others' sake, please consider the possibility the experts know what they're talking about.

Chief, I don't know what else I can say, I shared my family is experiencing similar things as yours to try and connect with you, I wasn't dismissive, just simply said you take care of you, thought that was a nice way to communicate that I respect the intensity of your situation but printed words cannot capture the tone of my voice I'm afraid. 

"Dismissive posts run counter"....sounds vaguely like "those who don't agree with things I am communicating will perish"

 I'm glad many folks are finding comfort in your posts, that's awesome for folks to feel connected and have someone reliable they trust vs the news and media/social media which twist a lot of things. 

All ego/pride set to the side...if you are risking your health going to a hospital every day(I have no idea what you do there...Dr, RN, Lab, Admin) I tip my cap to you. Lot of folks are taking it easy at home, you're obviously working hard and trying to help as many folks as you can. Who can find fault in that?

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I received my hand sanitiser from goatmilkstuff.com. It's very moisturising for a hand sanitiser and scent is wonderful once the alcohol scent has dissipated in less than a minute. You can choose whatever scent they offer in their lush long lasting soaps. Your wives would love this!

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57 minutes ago, matttyl said:

Those under 18% only 1%, or even just a rounding error?  Are they not getting it, or not sick enough to warrant a test?

Latter for sure. 

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22 minutes ago, parasaurolophus said:

Just buy some vital wheat gluten and add it to all purpose flour and Wa La, bread flour. 

everytime i see wa la, i laugh.

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1 hour ago, IvanKaramazov said:

That's the only explanation I could come up with, but it seems stupid.  Who the hell bakes their own bread?  We are not in any danger of running out of bread.  Then again, we're also not in any danger of running out of toilet paper and paper towels, and we see what's happening there, so never mind I guess.  People are idiots.

Baking is a great activity especially when you have kids that are bored. Reward is bread, pizza crust, etc that tastes better than store bought. Now with all this time on people's hands, cooking and baking are great hobbies. 

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49 minutes ago, tamales said:

Was this post from 3 weeks ago?

I live in small town USA...we are a few steps behind the coasts.

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Secondo l'aggiornamento alle 8 di martedì 24 marzo della Regione Umbria e della Protezione Civile ci sono "cinque guariti dal coronavirus, 19 morti e 648 casi positivi registrati in totale".“
 

According to up to date as of 8a Tuesday March 24.......5 recovering from the virus, 19 dead and 648 positive case.

This is from www.perugiatoday.it, Umbria stats.

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I really am starting to wonder how many cases requiring hospitalization they are expecting here (hour north of Boston). They have been emptying out hospitals of regular patients the last few days. Yesterday they started prepping a nursing home to take on patients. Earlier today they announced they were converting a high school into an emergency hospital. Now it appears they are doing the same thing at an area college. Besides setting up a ton of beds and equipment, not sure they could possibly staff all these places unless they expect one person to treat 20-30 patients at a time. 

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1 hour ago, Jayrod said:

So, I just had an interesting trip to the supermarket. Our town has just recently issued a stay-at-home order and shut down everything but vital services. Apparently that means everybody run to the grocery store and buy as much stuff as you can (even though they're staying open). Literally aisles completely empty. I was just looking for some mac and cheese and hot dogs and they were completely gone.  :loco:

We aren't the brightest bulbs in the world.  

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2 minutes ago, Anarchy99 said:

I really am starting to wonder how many cases requiring hospitalization they are expecting here (hour north of Boston). They have been emptying out hospitals of regular patients the last few days. Yesterday they started prepping a nursing home to take on patients. Earlier today they announced they were converting a high school into an emergency hospital. Now it appears they are doing the same thing at an area college. Besides setting up a ton of beds and equipment, not sure they could possibly staff all these places unless they expect one person to treat 20-30 patients at a time. 

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8 minutes ago, CurlyNight said:

Baking is a great activity especially when you have kids that are bored. Reward is bread, pizza crust, etc that tastes better than store bought. Now with all this time on people's hands, cooking and baking are great hobbies. 

I have posted that my 20 year old daughter works at Sam's and has just dealt with all kinds of ugliness. Yesterday a big guy literally got in her face (she said inches away--she is 5'2 --110 pounds) and was literally screaming at her because the water was gone. I mean she is a cashier and has no control over the inventory. Her manager came over and cut the guy's membership card in half and said he is no longer welcome at Sam's. :thumbup:

She has sent me videos of what people are like there. She just sent me one of a guy with 20 packages of flour in his cart despite the sign saying max. 2 of any item. She just got off work and I told her to go back in and shop because she is alone up there and food is becoming harder to get.

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Education jobs affected by the pandemic include adjunct positions in universities and colleges and preschool jobs. At Miami Dade College, the 2nd largest school in the US, enrollment for summer is down dramatically. Adjuncts like me have been told to expect many cancelled classes, as students are moved to classes taught by full-timers. It's a 2nd job for me, but many adjuncts cobble together a living by teaching at 2 and sometimes 3 schools.

My roommate teaches at a private university preschool. It was closed a week ago and she is working hard to deliver content via zoom to parents and 3-4 year-old children.  I expect many to stop paying next month. The summer programs could also be cancelled, which would eliminate a nice source of income to underpaid employees.

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5 minutes ago, Anarchy99 said:

I really am starting to wonder how many cases requiring hospitalization they are expecting here (hour north of Boston). They have been emptying out hospitals of regular patients the last few days. Yesterday they started prepping a nursing home to take on patients. Earlier today they announced they were converting a high school into an emergency hospital. Now it appears they are doing the same thing at an area college. Besides setting up a ton of beds and equipment, not sure they could possibly staff all these places unless they expect one person to treat 20-30 patients at a time. 

Be glad they are preparing. 

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23 hours ago, bradyfan said:

US CDC Update (Web page updated regularly at noon Mondays through Fridays. Numbers close out at 4 p.m. the day before reporting.) 
Cases in the U.S. - updated Mar-23
U.S. at a Glance 
  Total cases: 33,404
  Total deaths: 400 
  Jurisdictions reporting cases: 54 (50 states, District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, Guam, and US Virgin Islands) 
Cases in the U.S. reported to the CDC 
  Travel-related: 449 
  Close Contacts: 539 
  Under investigation: 32,416 
  Total cases: 33,404
Jurisdictions Reporting Cases to CDC
  6 - 50 cases: 12 - AK (22), GU (27), HI (48), ID (47), MT (34), ND (30), NE* (50), PR (23), SD (21), VI (17), WV (16), WY* (24)
  51 - 100  cases: 9 - DE (56), IA** (90), KS (64), ME* (93), NH* (78), NM (65), OK** (67), RI (97), VT (52)
  100 - 500 cases: 20 - AL (157), AR* (164), AZ** (152), CT (327), DC (116), IN (201), KY (103), MD** (288), MN* (236), MO (106),
          MS* (249), NC (255), NV* (190), OH (351), OR* (161), PA* (479), SC* (195), UT (169), VA* (254), WI* (381)
  501 - 1000 cases: 6 - CO* (591), FL (937), GA** (757), MA** (646), TN* (505), TX (507)
  1001 - 5000 cases: 6 - CA** (1709), IL* (1049), LA* (1035), MI* (1035), NJ* (1914), WA** (1,996)
  5001 or more cases: 1 - NY** (15,168)
  Community Transmission : 28 - *Defined area(s): 19, **Widespread/both: 9

Testing in the U.S. - updated Mar-23
Public Health Laboratory Testing for COVID-19
  Currently testing: 50 states plus District of Columbia, Guam, and Puerto Rico (91 state and local public health labs) 
  In progress: 1 - US Virgin Islands 
Number of specimens tested
  CDC labs: N= 4,649 
  U.S. public health laboratories: N=75,263

US CDC Update (Web page updated regularly at noon Mondays through Fridays. Numbers close out at 4 p.m. the day before reporting.) 
Cases in the U.S. - updated Mar-24 
U.S. at a Glance 
  Total cases: 44,183
  Total deaths: 544
  Jurisdictions reporting cases: 54 (50 states, District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, Guam, and US Virgin Islands)
Cases in the U.S. reported to the CDC
  Travel-related: 479
  Close Contacts: 569
  Under investigation: 43,135
  Total cases: 44,183
Jurisdictions Reporting Cases to CDC
  6 - 50 cases: 9 - AK* (36), GU* (30), MT (37), ND (32), PR (31), SD (28), VI (17), WV (20), WY* (26)
  51 - 100  cases: 8 - DE* (87), HI (66), ID* (51), KS (82), NE* (52), NM* (83), OK** (81), VT* (75)
  100 - 500 cases: 24 - AL* (196), AR* (197), AZ** (253), CT** (415), DC (137), IA** (105), IN (259), KY (124), MD** (288), ME* (109), MN* (262),
          MO (183), MS* (320), NC (398), NH* (101), NV* (245), OH (442), OR* (191), RI (106), SC* (298), TX (352), UT* (280), VA* (290), WI* (416)
  501 - 1000 cases: 4 - CO** (720), MA** (777), PA* (644), TN* (615)
  1001 - 5000 cases: 8 - CA** (1931), FL* (1141), GA** (1015), IL** (1285), LA* (1172), MI* (1328), NJ* (2844), WA** (2221)
  5001 or more cases: 1 - NY** (21689)
  Community Transmission : 39 - *Defined area(s): 27, **Widespread/both: 12
Testing in the U.S. - updated Mar-24
Public Health Laboratory Testing for COVID-19
  Currently testing: 50 states plus District of Columbia, Guam, and Puerto Rico (91 state and local public health labs)
  In progress: 1 - US Virgin Islands
Number of specimens tested
  CDC labs: N= 4,651
  U.S. public health laboratories: N= 83,391

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39 minutes ago, Redwes25 said:

CNN reporting 160 deaths today in the USA.  A sad development.

Worldometer is showing 222 for the day now.

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50 minutes ago, RUSF18 said:

 

I'm in Hoboken NJ on the other side of the river from NYC, a dense town full of city commuters and at that point, our playgrounds will have been closed for two weeks. 

I’ve got family up there in Bergen co.  Take care of yourselves!

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Another friend of mine

TINTON FALLS - By the time Nick Tango received his positive coronavirus test, he said he had already recovered from the disease. 

Now he has to beat the stigma, as some who know him keep their distance. 

What he endured trying to get a test result was a nightmare and sheds some light on the struggle to control the pandemic in New Jersey, as elsewhere. 

"I felt alone and desperate. I felt no one believed me. I was told to go back to work. I don't know if I got people sick," Tango, a 32-year-old Tinton Falls resident, told the Asbury Park Press via a phone interview.

It took about two weeks for Tango to get test results for COVID-19, the name of the novel coronavirus that is believed to have originated in Wuhan, China.    

Part of the issue was the shortage of COVID-19 tests. Another was his first doctor told him his symptoms didn't warrant a test. One hospital simply lost his test, he said. 

"He was having challenges. One of our goals in this fight has been to improve testing," said state Sen. Vin Gopal, D-Monmouth, whom Tango reached out to in order to express his frustration. 

The tests are a universal issue in the country. Some ground has been made in that battle. Testing sites recently opened at the PNC Bank Arts Center in Holmdel and urgent care facilities in Eatontown, Howell and Marlboro. Ocean County College is the next planned site.  

These sites weren't available when Tango contracted the virus. He's positive he got it at a trade show in New York City on March 2. At the event, he mingled with attendees from home and abroad, including Italy.

Two days later, he woke up with a horrible fever. His temperature was 103.6 degrees. He stayed home from work, took Tylenol and hydrated.

He didn't think he had COVID-19. He didn't have a dry cough or shortness of breath, the common symptoms of the virus. 

On Friday, March 6, his fever broke and he went to work. However, the following day it returned, giving him a temperature of 103 degrees. He began to think he might have COVID-19. 

Tango gathered his things and went to Monmouth Medical Center in Long Branch.  

He was isolated, and doctors came in wearing masks and gloves. X-ray machines were brought in. He was tested for the flu, strep and the rhinovirus, but not COVID-19. 

"I was told I didn't meet the requirements. They sent me home with a note that I could return to work in 24 hours," Tango said.

He felt well enough to go back to work on Tuesday, March 10, but by the next day, he was crippled again. Added to his symptoms were nausea and confusion. 

He went to Jersey Shore University Medical Center in Neptune. He was isolated again. Doctors were covered head to toe in protective gear. This time he was given the COVID-19 test and told to self-quarantine until the results came back. 

"They put a swab up your nose. It's not comfortable at all. And they swab your throat," Tango said of the process. 

Little did he know, he'd have to do it again. On March 13 hospital representatives called and asked him to return because it had lost his test. He returned was tested and went back to self-quarantine. 

On March 16, he woke a new man — or his old self. The fever was gone. Four days later, he got a call from the hospital. His test results were in. He was positive for COVID-19. 

"When I told them I felt good the doctor said 'Good, You beat it,'" Tango said. 

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So if I genuinely had a pediatric emergency room physician in desperate need of masks in the phoenix area, how could I help?  Family friend, used to run the emergency department in our area and I coached her daughter...feel helpless.

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2 hours ago, NorvilleBarnes said:
2 hours ago, Sand said:

Looks like an awesome link. I want to see if its Doug B approved.

Derek Lowe has been cited in this thread a few times before. Cursory review indicates that he’s legit. Would like to dig into his work more deeply.

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5 minutes ago, Penguin said:

Another friend of mine

TINTON FALLS - By the time Nick Tango received his positive coronavirus test, he said he had already recovered from the disease. 

Now he has to beat the stigma, as some who know him keep their distance. 

What he endured trying to get a test result was a nightmare and sheds some light on the struggle to control the pandemic in New Jersey, as elsewhere. 

"I felt alone and desperate. I felt no one believed me. I was told to go back to work. I don't know if I got people sick," Tango, a 32-year-old Tinton Falls resident, told the Asbury Park Press via a phone interview.

It took about two weeks for Tango to get test results for COVID-19, the name of the novel coronavirus that is believed to have originated in Wuhan, China.    

Part of the issue was the shortage of COVID-19 tests. Another was his first doctor told him his symptoms didn't warrant a test. One hospital simply lost his test, he said. 

"He was having challenges. One of our goals in this fight has been to improve testing," said state Sen. Vin Gopal, D-Monmouth, whom Tango reached out to in order to express his frustration. 

The tests are a universal issue in the country. Some ground has been made in that battle. Testing sites recently opened at the PNC Bank Arts Center in Holmdel and urgent care facilities in Eatontown, Howell and Marlboro. Ocean County College is the next planned site.  

These sites weren't available when Tango contracted the virus. He's positive he got it at a trade show in New York City on March 2. At the event, he mingled with attendees from home and abroad, including Italy.

Two days later, he woke up with a horrible fever. His temperature was 103.6 degrees. He stayed home from work, took Tylenol and hydrated.

He didn't think he had COVID-19. He didn't have a dry cough or shortness of breath, the common symptoms of the virus. 

On Friday, March 6, his fever broke and he went to work. However, the following day it returned, giving him a temperature of 103 degrees. He began to think he might have COVID-19. 

Tango gathered his things and went to Monmouth Medical Center in Long Branch.  

He was isolated, and doctors came in wearing masks and gloves. X-ray machines were brought in. He was tested for the flu, strep and the rhinovirus, but not COVID-19. 

"I was told I didn't meet the requirements. They sent me home with a note that I could return to work in 24 hours," Tango said.

He felt well enough to go back to work on Tuesday, March 10, but by the next day, he was crippled again. Added to his symptoms were nausea and confusion. 

He went to Jersey Shore University Medical Center in Neptune. He was isolated again. Doctors were covered head to toe in protective gear. This time he was given the COVID-19 test and told to self-quarantine until the results came back. 

"They put a swab up your nose. It's not comfortable at all. And they swab your throat," Tango said of the process. 

Little did he know, he'd have to do it again. On March 13 hospital representatives called and asked him to return because it had lost his test. He returned was tested and went back to self-quarantine. 

On March 16, he woke a new man — or his old self. The fever was gone. Four days later, he got a call from the hospital. His test results were in. He was positive for COVID-19. 

"When I told them I felt good the doctor said 'Good, You beat it,'" Tango said. 

The ongoing testing issues have been a national disaster, your friend's experience almost defies belief.

I'm glad he's recovered now.

 

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45 minutes ago, CurlyNight said:

I received my hand sanitiser from goatmilkstuff.com. It's very moisturising for a hand sanitiser and scent is wonderful once the alcohol scent has dissipated in less than a minute. You can choose whatever scent they offer in their lush long lasting soaps. Your wives would love this!

just ordered some. How long did it take?

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On 3/23/2020 at 10:19 PM, bradyfan said:

Worldometer March 24  02:05 GMT Update (The day is reset after midnight GMT+0.)

  1. China: 81,171 (+78) cases, 3,277 (+7) deaths
  2. Italy: 63,927 (+4,789) cases, 6,077 (+601) deaths
  3. USA: 43,734 (+10,168) cases, 553 (+140) deaths
  4. Spain: 35,136 (+6,368) cases, 2,311 (+539) deaths
  5. Germany: 29,056 (+4,183) cases, 123 (+29) deaths
  6. Iran: 23,049 (+1,411) cases, 1,812 (+127) deaths
  7. France: 19,856 (+3,838) cases, 860 (+186) deaths
  8. S. Korea: 8,961 (+64) cases, 111 (+7) deaths
  9. Switzerland: 8,795 (+1,321) cases, 120 (+22) deaths
  10. UK: 6,650 (+967) cases, 335 (+54) deaths
  11. Netherlands: 4,749 (+545) cases, 213 (+34) deaths
  12. Austria: 4,474 (+892) cases, 21 (+5) deaths
  13. Belgium: 3,743 (+342) cases, 88 (+13) deaths
  14. Norway: 2,625 (+240) cases, 10 (+3) deaths
  15. Canada: 2,091 (+621) cases, 24 (+4) deaths
  16. Portugal: 2,060 (+460) cases, 23 (+9) deaths
  17. Sweden: 2,046 (+112) cases, 27 (+6) deaths
  18. Brazil: 1,924 (+378) cases, 34 (+9) deaths
  19. Australia: 1,887 (+278) cases, 7 deaths
  20. Turkey: 1,529 (+293) cases, 37 (+7) deaths

Worldometer March 25  02:07 GMT Update (The day is reset after midnight GMT+0.)

  1. China: 81,218 (+47) cases, 3,281 (+4) deaths
  2. Italy: 69,176 (+5,249) cases, 6,820 (+743) deaths
  3. USA: 54,808 (+11,074) cases, 775 (+222) deaths
  4. Spain: 42,058 (+6,922) cases, 2,991 (+680) deaths
  5. Germany: 32,991 (+3,935) cases, 159 (+36) deaths
  6. Iran: 24,811 (+1,762) cases, 1,934 (+122) deaths
  7. France: 22,304 (+2,448) cases, 1,100 (+240) deaths
  8. Switzerland: 9,877 (+1,082) cases, 122 (+2) deaths
  9. S. Korea: 9,037 (+76) cases, 120 (+9) deaths
  10. UK: 8,077 (+1,427) cases, 422 (+87) deaths
  11. Netherlands: 5,560 (+811) cases, 276 (+63) deaths
  12. Austria: 5,283 (+809) cases, 28 (+7) deaths
  13. Belgium: 4,269 (+526) cases, 122 (+34) deaths
  14. Norway: 2,866 (+241) cases, 12 (+2) deaths
  15. Canada: 2,792 (+701) cases, 26 (+2) deaths
  16. Portugal: 2,362 (+302) cases, 33 (+10) deaths
  17. Australia: 2,317 (+430) cases, 8 (+2) deaths
  18. Sweden: 2,299 (+253) cases, 49 (+13) deaths
  19. Brazil: 2,247 (+323) cases, 46 (+12) deaths
  20. Israel: 1,930 (+488) cases, 3 (+2) deaths

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2 minutes ago, JbizzleMan said:

just ordered some. How long did it take?

$5 an ounce?

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4 minutes ago, SpurrierisisGod said:

So if I genuinely had a pediatric emergency room physician in desperate need of masks in the phoenix area, how could I help?  Family friend, used to run the emergency department in our area and I coached her daughter...feel helpless.

There may be a local place taking donations of excess medical supplies from people, if so she can check with them to see how the allocation works.

Here's an example of a local one in Columbus: https://wexnermedical.osu.edu/features/coronavirus/ways-to-help/donate-supplies

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49 minutes ago, Ministry of Pain said:

"Dismissive posts run counter"....sounds vaguely like "those who don't agree with things I am communicating will perish"

Having read all of T.X.'s posts throughout, it sounds an awful lot more to me like, "Those who vocally disagree with the experts in matters of life and death are in danger of contributing to loss of life."

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Got my first patient tonite. I’ll take all the thoprawishes you all got. this is no longer a hypothetical exercise for me.

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2 minutes ago, Penguin said:

$5 an ounce?

Wife and I are down to two little bottles and we are going to the doctors office twice a week right now. Doesn't really matter to me. :shrug:

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2 minutes ago, GawainB said:

Having read all of T.X.'s posts throughout, it sounds an awful lot more to me like, "Those who vocally disagree with the experts in matters of life and death are in danger of contributing to loss of life."

MOP just pulled out part of what TX said so he could try to create a criticism. 

TX's full sentence was unambiguously clear: 

We don't have it under control. That is what I'm trying to communicate, and dismissive posts run counter to that effort. 

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Sorry. I know, politics in PSF. Screw it. 
 

The Feds are embarrassing right now. 

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4 minutes ago, ProstheticRGK said:

Got my first patient tonite. I’ll take all the thoprawishes you all got. this is no longer a hypothetical exercise for me.

Sincerely, good luck and thoprawishes to you and everyone here that's on the front lines in any way.

My brother drives a truck delivering food, my niece and her SO work at a hospital - I worry about them every day.

 

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14 minutes ago, SpurrierisisGod said:

So if I genuinely had a pediatric emergency room physician in desperate need of masks in the phoenix area, how could I help?  Family friend, used to run the emergency department in our area and I coached her daughter...feel helpless.

My sister and a cousin are sewing masks and sending them another cousin who works in a hospital.  They found the directions/patterns online.  My nurse cousin said the masks with a pocket to insert a kleenex, or other secondary filter fabric, were better.

I also saw a facebook post about theaters pulling together their excess masks that they would normally use when creating new backdrops for new plays/musicals and sending them to hospitals in the area.

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16 minutes ago, JbizzleMan said:

just ordered some. How long did it take?

They should have stock on everything so a day maybe 2 to get it shipped out. I love this family and use a lot of their products. In regular times, if order is placed early enough, it'll ship same day. If not, next day. They had ran out of bottles but got a bunch in over the weekend so they should be fine. It'll probably ship tomorrow. They email you a usps tracking number. They have great customer service so any questions, they get back to you quick. I got a response at 9 pm last week, midnight their time. They are a family business that work hard and have the best quality products. :)

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Posted (edited)

So what are we on the doomsday clock?  Like 9?  Maybe 930?

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1 minute ago, need2know said:

So what are we at on the doomsday clock?  Like 9?  Maybe 930?

5-6.

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37 minutes ago, bradyfan said:

Worldometer March 25  02:07 GMT Update (The day is reset after midnight GMT+0.)

  1. China: 81,218 (+47) cases, 3,281 (+4) deaths
  2. Italy: 69,176 (+5,249) cases, 6,820 (+743) deaths
  3. USA: 54,808 (+11,074) cases, 775 (+222) deaths
  4. Spain: 42,058 (+6,922) cases, 2,991 (+680) deaths
  5. Germany: 32,991 (+3,935) cases, 159 (+36) deaths
  6. Iran: 24,811 (+1,762) cases, 1,934 (+122) deaths
  7. France: 22,304 (+2,448) cases, 1,100 (+240) deaths
  8. Switzerland: 9,877 (+1,082) cases, 122 (+2) deaths
  9. S. Korea: 9,037 (+76) cases, 120 (+9) deaths
  10. UK: 8,077 (+1,427) cases, 422 (+87) deaths
  11. Netherlands: 5,560 (+811) cases, 276 (+63) deaths
  12. Austria: 5,283 (+809) cases, 28 (+7) deaths
  13. Belgium: 4,269 (+526) cases, 122 (+34) deaths
  14. Norway: 2,866 (+241) cases, 12 (+2) deaths
  15. Canada: 2,792 (+701) cases, 26 (+2) deaths
  16. Portugal: 2,362 (+302) cases, 33 (+10) deaths
  17. Australia: 2,317 (+430) cases, 8 (+2) deaths
  18. Sweden: 2,299 (+253) cases, 49 (+13) deaths
  19. Brazil: 2,247 (+323) cases, 46 (+12) deaths
  20. Israel: 1,930 (+488) cases, 3 (+2) deaths

At the rate we’re going, we’re soon going to have the most confirmed cases of any country.

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3 minutes ago, need2know said:

So what are we on the doomsday clock?  Like 9?  Maybe 930?

These next two weeks are going to tell the tale. 

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12 hours ago, Politician Spock said:

We have more than enough toilet paper in this country to make it through this crisis even with a stalled economy. The problem is the toilet paper distribution is skewed due to people hoarding much more toilet paper than they need.

We have more than enough wealth in this country to make it through this crisis even with a stalled economy. The problem is the wealth distribution is skewed due to people hoarding much more wealth than they need.

The solution to both problems is the end of the hoarding. 

Maybe tp-based currency is the answer? 

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