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Things are getting comical with delayed offside flag - WBA just got totally ####ed even if you could say by letter of the law it was the correct decision.  Between this and their last one, City are really catching some huge breaks (although they probably would have won this one easily).

ETA - I should ammend this - WBA didn't get ####ed, they should have kept playing but what they've done is stupid.  I think I'd rather go back to just dealing with human error on offside calls that were wrong.

 
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AAABatteries said:
Sound like the EPL changed their mind.  I agree with this and not how it was called during the match.  Clear advantage gained by the attacking player who was in an offside position.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/english-premier-league/story/4298611/man-citys-goal-vs-aston-villa-was-offsidepremier-league-admits
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They seem to be picking and choosing when to apply the letter or the spirit of the law, esp when it comes to offside.  This is offside by the spirit but a toe or knee (or a shirtsleeve because someone pointed) is off by the letter.  They need to decide how they want to move forward.

 
AAABatteries said:
Things are getting comical with delayed offside flag - WBA just got totally ####ed even if you could say by letter of the law it was the correct decision.  Between this and their last one, City are really catching some huge breaks (although they probably would have won this one easily).

ETA - I should ammend this - WBA didn't get ####ed, they should have kept playing but what they've done is stupid.  I think I'd rather go back to just dealing with human error on offside calls that were wrong.
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I didn't see it, just some comments but the ARs are not consistent.  Despite the "keep the flag down mandate" to often the OBVIOUS offside is not called and the boarderline is.  Plus even if the flag goes up, the forward is told to keep going and put the ball in the net so VAR can review.  Its completely asinine.

 
B Maverick said:
Looks like he got into it with Lukaku and now reports of Zlatan using a racist term: "voodoo s&*t"?  
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The captain of my college team was a Jamaican international, prone to saying all manner of ####, including some stuff as the keynote speaker for the school/all-sports-wide annual varsity dinner that went national. He was my away game roomie and kinda buddy...and I knew he was an ####### who said idiotic ####### ####. Never considered him a racist or bigot even though he'd say some really ####ty bigoted things in the heat of it.

I imagine Zlat is like that. 

 
B Maverick said:
I didn't see it, just some comments but the ARs are not consistent.  Despite the "keep the flag down mandate" to often the OBVIOUS offside is not called and the boarderline is.  Plus even if the flag goes up, the forward is told to keep going and put the ball in the net so VAR can review.  Its completely asinine.
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It looked like an obvious offside, the ref waited really late to raise her flag and then the West Brom players (stupidly) stopped playing.  Granted, it was a well taken goal but nobody closed him down.  The announcers even praised the lineswoman for a good call and then once they finally got around to showing the line it was just barely onside.  It was comical - but had no impact on the outcome like the Villa one did.  I think Villa get a point out of that match if that call wasn't made.

ETA - and yes, I'm bitter as a United fan as that could be a huge 2 points in the title race.

 
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To update...  the Peacock broadcast is definitely acting like this is Tuchel's first game in charge.  I don't know if he made the lineup or not, but at the halftime break they commented on his 'first halftime talk as Chelsea manager'.

 
Poke_4_Life said:
To update...  the Peacock broadcast is definitely acting like this is Tuchel's first game in charge.  I don't know if he made the lineup or not, but at the halftime break they commented on his 'first halftime talk as Chelsea manager'.
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Mount, Tammy, James and Timo also all on the bench.

And no goals and only a couple shots in spite of a large adv in possession. Doesn't sound like this group is forcing CP out just yet.

 
How have they looked? Is it the same passing around the back, occasional foray down a wing and hopeful lob to nobody in the middle? Odoi and Ziyech doing much? Anybody attacking players 1v1 the way CP does?

 
El Floppo said:
How have they looked? Is it the same passing around the back, occasional foray down a wing and hopeful lob to nobody in the middle? Odoi and Ziyech doing much? Anybody attacking players 1v1 the way CP does?
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At half Chelsea had 79% possession and 2 Shots on goal.  

I'm only half watching, but it is not impressive thus far.  

Second half is only a bit underway so far.  

 
CP on for Chilwell, Tammy on for Giroud at 77'.

Chillwell has missed the goal on two decent chances.  Chances that CP would have at least put on goal.

 
Chillwell was playing LM in front of a back 3.  Seems CP is playing on the right.  I can't figure out the exact formation now.  CP almost looks like a RAM.  CHO is on the left now.

 
CP was playing RW/RM and Mount was RAM.  They made a few decent chances together but still no goals.

CP looked slightly more comfortable on the right than he has in the past.  He took on a Semedo a few times and got a few crosses in, but Wolves were well bunkered in.  

 
Just sad.  Sheffield was never as bad as their table position.  They worked hard.  United was bound to slip up.  Is this when City opens a gap?

 
B Maverick said:
Anytime a keeper catches an easy ball late in the game, takes a few steps and goes to ground should be booked for time wasting.
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Or...and call me crazy...they use the rule already in the books and count six seconds. If the guy is still having a snooze on the turf, going walk-about, doing his taxes, or otherwise spending more than six seconds before releasing the ball- call an indirect foul. 

 
B Maverick said:
Just sad.  Sheffield was never as bad as their table position.  They worked hard.  United was bound to slip up.  Is this when City opens a gap?
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They were already the favorites - I don’t see anybody challenging them unless Pool find their form.  Ole can’t figure out how to deal with bottom half of the table or home matches.  

 
B Maverick said:
No one wants to just clear a ball, got to pass out of the back no matter what.....
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The problem is Ole’s only game plan seems to be a counter attack - now it works great most of the time but there seems to be no plan B when United have well over 60% possession.  They either have to score early to draw teams out or struggle - there seems to be no in between.

 
El Floppo said:
Or...and call me crazy...they use the rule already in the books and count six seconds. If the guy is still having a snooze on the turf, going walk-about, doing his taxes, or otherwise spending more than six seconds before releasing the ball- call an indirect foul. 
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:goodposting:

With so many keepers standing there holding the ball for longer then a VAR review, I thought they reversed this rule!

 
AAABatteries said:
They were already the favorites - I don’t see anybody challenging them unless Pool find their form.  Ole can’t figure out how to deal with bottom half of the table or home matches.  
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I agree City were favorites, esp with games in hand.  de Bruyne out may hurt a bit though.

AAABatteries said:
The problem is Ole’s only game plan seems to be a counter attack - now it works great most of the time but there seems to be no plan B when United have well over 60% possession.  They either have to score early to draw teams out or struggle - there seems to be no in between.
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They have been beating bottom of the table teams of late so I am not sure I agree. 

Rashford missed a sitter early.  Greenwood missed a couple good chances later.  I saw several mistouches and easy passes not get to their inteneded target... sometimes the players just don't put it together. 

Clear the ball instead of toe poking it to no one and the 2nd goal doesn't happen.  

 
Fwiw, like I commented for Newcastle- it's the crazy results time of the compacted fixture calendar. I feel like these freak losses happen to the best teams every year around now... and there's alway the gnashing of teeth and rending of hair from their fans...but the teams always settle back into it and push on as always for the second half of the season.

 
El Floppo said:
Fwiw, like I commented for Newcastle- it's the crazy results time of the compacted fixture calendar. I feel like these freak losses happen to the best teams every year around now... and there's alway the gnashing of teeth and rending of hair from their fans...but the teams always settle back into it and push on as always for the second half of the season.
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Newcastle hasn’t won in 11 matches.

 
El Floppo said:
Fwiw, like I commented for Newcastle- it's the crazy results time of the compacted fixture calendar. I feel like these freak losses happen to the best teams every year around now... and there's alway the gnashing of teeth and rending of hair from their fans...but the teams always settle back into it and push on as always for the second half of the season.
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:goodposting:

Sheffield has scored 2 goals in a game twice this season.  Both against Manchester United

 
AAABatteries said:
The problem is Ole’s only game plan seems to be a counter attack - now it works great most of the time but there seems to be no plan B when United have well over 60% possession.  They either have to score early to draw teams out or struggle - there seems to be no in between.
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Lets also not overlook the fact that Martial had a good goal called back becuase McGuire touched the keeper, but Sheffield's first goal was allowed despite De Gea getting a shoulder charge to the kidney.  

 
I HATE everything being on streaming now, even not sports related. 
 

At least with cable I don’t have to deal with wifi strength fluctuating or buffering while watching. 
 

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