Otis
Footballguy
Cut the cable bro. I'm convinced anyone paying for cable today is a sucker. Streaming roxorz
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Otis
Footballguy
Unique number or not, it's another LTE radio that's added to the network and they have to service, right? And you can use both your phone and watch on the LTE network at the same time? At least that's how I understand it.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
I don't expect free service.
If I am paying for 4gb of data on their network what difference should it make if I have one device that uses 4gb of date, or 4 devices that use 1gb of data each?
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Insoxicated
I get your point, but cell plans are already exorbitant here... telcoms are raking in cash. Just a crappy precident and likely a deal breaker for me on principle. I waste $10/mo on way way dumber ####... but when I'm already paying as much as I am to VZW, this just feels nickel/dimey.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
I got mine as a gift but love it - I definitely want the new one but I got plenty of use out of my current one. I outlined my thoughts earlier in the thread but the one thing that I really wanted was to stream music while working out but I'm not sure it's a game changer for me.BoltBacker said:
As for the point somebody made about having your phone on you at all times - I was already someone who would not have it with me 100% of the time so I'm not sure this really helps me any.
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BoltBacker
Footballguy
That's like saying an electric company should charge you more for each electric outlet in your house.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Two thoughts:
- I get why people say you need your phone but it's nots entirely true. There's a decent amount of functionality without your phone today - LTE will definitely take it to another level
- I don't see these replacing phones - people use phones as mini-tablets (video, web browsing) - it will replace some things (making a phone call, some texting) but I don't see how you get rid of the phone completely without something like wearable glasses for more screen real estate.
Ned
Footballguy
What's stopping you from using the watch and an iPad when you need the screen real estate?
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Ned
Footballguy
I'm trying to think of the number of times where I needed the screen real estate when I'm out and about. Not too often.
Otis
Footballguy
Because a network provider has one major concern that impacts quality of service: load. If there's only a thousand phones on a local network, maybe you can handle it fine. But double the number of radios communicating on the network at the same time? You may have to buy more equipment, and scale up the network, etc.
I get that everyone loves to do the OH MAN CELL PHONE COMPANIES ALWAYS SCREW ME bit, and maybe they do, but this is not an instance of that. At $10 a month to add an LTE device to a network, that doesn't strike me as all that unreasonable.
Just one guy's view.
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Insoxicated
Psssshttt... Otis in here talking like he's done research or litigated in this market segment or something.
You don't know ####, Mossberg.
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AAABatteries
Footballguy
You never sit and drink coffee and browse the web? Watch a video on your lunch break? Jerk it in the subway bathroom to some Asian fetus porn?I'm trying to think of the number of times where I needed the screen real estate when I'm out and about. Not too often.
I can't imagine swapping the convenience that the phone brings to switch to a combo of the watch and a tablet.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
Ned
Footballguy
I work from home full time, so the amount of time I've actually needed this big phone (which I love my 6+) is ironically not much. If the watch does everything I generally need when out and about and I can leave the phone at home.... hmmmmm.....
Only thing would be weird is talking to my wrist if I got a call. (is that really what you do?)
AAABatteries
Footballguy
YepOnly thing would be weird is talking to my wrist if I got a call. (is that really what you do?)
- I've gotten a few odd stares.I get the desire to leave the phone at home but for me 95%+ of my trips away from the house I would want my phone. Exceptions being workouts/running and quick trips to the store/gas station. Email and web browsing aren't an option (essentially) and texting isn't great although it's pretty good. I just think in general people would rather carry a phone than a tablet and I think we've seen that with phone sales vs. tablet.
James Daulton
Footballguy
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Ned
Footballguy
Holy ####, how did I not catch that?!
I knew he was a freak, but..... yeesh.....
James Daulton
Footballguy
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
I assume the watch connects to bluetooth headphones or earpiece. Pretty much has to if it's going to be a standalone workout music solution. For better of worse, it seems the stigma of people looking like a crazy person talking to themselves has gone away where I'm at. Everybody is walking down the street having their inane conversations.I work from home full time, so the amount of time I've actually needed this big phone (which I love my 6+) is ironically not much. If the watch does everything I generally need when out and about and I can leave the phone at home.... hmmmmm.....
Only thing would be weird is talking to my wrist if I got a call. (is that really what you do?)
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
What I think might eventually become more likely is that the watch is essentially the server and phones (and screens at home, in the car, and at work) become essentially thin clients. It might not be the watch. It might be something else easily wearable. But some type of way where you have the OS and the apps you generally use (and geocaching because you might use different stuff different places), but you're getting the same type of interface and customization wherever you go.
lumpy19
Footballguy
I agree with Otis. While a cell bill may seem expensive the fact that I have a portable ~70mb/s download connection IN MY POCKET is amazing and worth every penny I pay.
MattFancy
Footballguy
For me, I could see the watch as useful while out for a run, but that's about it. For the Series 3, you're basically paying $120/yr to use if once you get it connected to your carrier. So for $300 to buy one, $120/yr to connect it, plus whatever straps and stuff you buy for it, you might as well just buy a phone.
omahawildcat25
Footballguy
Wow, you can call from an Apple watch now? How revolutionary.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
just got mine today....very cool stand alone device....but its giving me a lot of trouble synching music...anyone having this issue?
Got it to work but man does it take a looooong time to load songs....im talking hours for 25 - not sure if thats the norm....still love it though
Got it to work but man does it take a looooong time to load songs....im talking hours for 25 - not sure if thats the norm....still love it though
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Insoxicated
I am finally on board courtesy of a Christmas Gift of a Series 3 with LTE from the lady.
its getting closer to something I'd buy. LTE, and improving Heath tracking are selling points for me. Curious if it requires add on fees to your LTE plan?
I was strongly against these early on as I felt the tech wasn't mature and the ecosystem/functionality wasn't there yet.
With the release of the Series 3 with LTE, i think they're finally there. Wow... I love this watch. I never thought I would... but I find myself using it in so many unexpected ways.
• Navigation: Love the easy use of Siri to start a trip. Love the seamless handoff from phone for turn by turn directions with wrist taps leading up to turns. No more looking at phone for guidance.
• Music control: Love the mirroring of "Now Playing" music controls. Great for when your phone is controlling music for a party/gathering. Particularly when you have to leave your phone near a bluetooth speaker, but want to walk around and interact with folks without having to keep pulling phone out to skip songs or adjust volume.
• Modular face for at-glance access to Time/Date/Weather/Battery Life/Text Notifications/etc.
• Remote Camera Control/Monitoring: Was great for family Christmas photos. Look at wrist to position folks in frame... snap pics with wrist..view photo on wrist afterward. Very handy.
• Health tracking: Tells you to get up periodically at work.. tracks heart rate and suggests breathing exercises when stressed, tracks exercise/walking/etc and pushes you to achieve daily goals. Tracks and stores all data as desired.
• On Wrist Shazam - I frequently use Shazam to ID songs I like. I love how it ties into my Spotify account and stores all ID'd songs in a playlist for later review. The watch does a great for this... and will bring the song up in apple music to listen to on wrist if you want.
• Phone locator: Love the "ping" feature that allows you to make your phone "ping" to find it when it's missing.
• Quick phone calls using the built in LTE is very handy.. especially while driving or doing something where you can't/dont want to hold a phone.
• Quick siri stuff (timer, questions, conversions, etc) where you don't want to have to pull phone out of pocket.
VERY surprised with battery life. not sure if that's improved on the Series 3, but I put it on at 6:30am, have used it a good bit, and am at 97% at Noon. That's incredible for me.
Very pleased by screen brightness. This was a concern for me. It's zero issue even in bright sunlight (was at the beach Sunday).
Very glad for the waterproofing/etc. Simply don't have to worry about it.
Such a cool device...and I've only had it for a week... I've had buddies tell me that you don't realize how useful it is, or how much you'll use it until you get one. I'd agree with that wholeheartedly.
LAUNCH
Footballguy
https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/12/17109036/applewatch-kardiaband-alivecor-ekg-reader-hyperkalemia-health-artificial-intelligence
AppleWatch wristband sensor claims to detect potassium in your blood — without needles
The AliveCor KardiaBand, a sensor compatible with the Apple Watch, can detect dangerous levels of potassium in blood with 94 percent accuracy. Though the US Food and Drug Administration has not yet approved KardiaBand for this purpose, it’s an interesting step forward considering that, right now, the condition is usually caught using invasive blood tests that use needles.
The KardiaBand by AliveCor is a sensor that snaps into a slot on the watchband. The user touches the sensor, which then takes a reading of the electrical activity of the heart, called an electrocardiogram (EKG). This reading can reveal abnormal heart rhythm and atrial fibrillation (AFib), and the sensor sends the information to an app. Yesterday, at the American College of Cardiology conference in Florida, AliveCor CEO Vic Gundotra presented research done with the Mayo Clinic showing that the same technology can detect too-high levels of potassium in the blood, called hyperkalemia.
To train AI with these data points, the team took the dataset and divided it into parts. They used some of the data to train the network. Basically, they told it which EKG reading patterns showed hyperkalemia, and let the AI learn for itself how to spot the pattern. Once the training was complete, the team tested the AI on a different part of the data to see if, given just the EKG, they could tell if it revealed hyperkalemia. It was about 90 to 94 percent accurate.
$199 for band then $99 per year subscription
https://store.alivecor.com/products/kardiaband
AppleWatch wristband sensor claims to detect potassium in your blood — without needles
The AliveCor KardiaBand, a sensor compatible with the Apple Watch, can detect dangerous levels of potassium in blood with 94 percent accuracy. Though the US Food and Drug Administration has not yet approved KardiaBand for this purpose, it’s an interesting step forward considering that, right now, the condition is usually caught using invasive blood tests that use needles.
The KardiaBand by AliveCor is a sensor that snaps into a slot on the watchband. The user touches the sensor, which then takes a reading of the electrical activity of the heart, called an electrocardiogram (EKG). This reading can reveal abnormal heart rhythm and atrial fibrillation (AFib), and the sensor sends the information to an app. Yesterday, at the American College of Cardiology conference in Florida, AliveCor CEO Vic Gundotra presented research done with the Mayo Clinic showing that the same technology can detect too-high levels of potassium in the blood, called hyperkalemia.
To train AI with these data points, the team took the dataset and divided it into parts. They used some of the data to train the network. Basically, they told it which EKG reading patterns showed hyperkalemia, and let the AI learn for itself how to spot the pattern. Once the training was complete, the team tested the AI on a different part of the data to see if, given just the EKG, they could tell if it revealed hyperkalemia. It was about 90 to 94 percent accurate.
$199 for band then $99 per year subscription
https://store.alivecor.com/products/kardiaband
Big League Chew
Footballguy
Picked one up last week. Seems alright not sure it’s worth the money
Or im not using it to its fullest capability
Or im not using it to its fullest capability
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Insoxicated
THIS is the type of stuff where the rubber REALLY hits the road with these smartwatches IMO. Biometric/heath systems that go well beyond your standard step counters. For people with cardiac issues, this device, if accurate, could be an incredible, life-saving development.
Wow...
LAUNCH
Footballguy
https://9to5mac.com/2018/03/07/golf-analyzer-apple-watch-app/
A lot of people argue that apps on the Apple Watch are completely and utterly useless —insisting that complications are the true potential behind Apple Watch. However, the app Golf Plus wants to buck that trend by potentially replacing your high-end golf analyzing gear with Apple Watch.
The watchOS app will analyze various elements of your swing and provide crucial data on how to improve your swing. It claims the app is very accurate because the Watch is always on your wrist and learns with AI and an internal sensor on the Apple Watch. It also senses a swing 100 times per second.
With Apple Watch Series 2 or above, Golf Plus will also track location data on its own to further enhance the accuracy. It uses this data to figure out how far the ball has gone. The finer details can be found on the corresponding iPhone app for review.
Apple touts the Watch as a fitness tracker, and Golf Plus takes this a step further with tracking sports data. The app is available on the App Store for a hefty $11.99, but that is much cheaper than golf swing analyzer gear. If you’re serious into golfing and wear an Apple Watch, this is the app to check out.
A lot of people argue that apps on the Apple Watch are completely and utterly useless —insisting that complications are the true potential behind Apple Watch. However, the app Golf Plus wants to buck that trend by potentially replacing your high-end golf analyzing gear with Apple Watch.
The watchOS app will analyze various elements of your swing and provide crucial data on how to improve your swing. It claims the app is very accurate because the Watch is always on your wrist and learns with AI and an internal sensor on the Apple Watch. It also senses a swing 100 times per second.
With Apple Watch Series 2 or above, Golf Plus will also track location data on its own to further enhance the accuracy. It uses this data to figure out how far the ball has gone. The finer details can be found on the corresponding iPhone app for review.
Apple touts the Watch as a fitness tracker, and Golf Plus takes this a step further with tracking sports data. The app is available on the App Store for a hefty $11.99, but that is much cheaper than golf swing analyzer gear. If you’re serious into golfing and wear an Apple Watch, this is the app to check out.
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Insoxicated
Very cool but speaking as someone who was in the golf industry for 13 years, and who saw every possible device of this type imaginable at the annual PGA tradeshow:
There are tons of these type devices out there.. usually having multiple sensors or at least sensors low on the club shaft itself. Even those don't gather GREAT data, without being combined with launch monitor / ball tracking data.
Honestly, all this is doing is capturing the pendulum of the wrist above the joint. It might gather useful tempo data, and perhaps pick up inconsistencies from swing to swing.... but the target market for this is not your "Few rounds a year" guy (who's going to have the truly ####ed up swing that this can see issues with). The people who will care enough about their swing to drop $12 on an app and to spend time working out the issues are decent to good golfers... and those guys require more nuanced data than this can provide, IMO.
Love the idea though.. just not sure you can get what you need from a watch in this case. I could be wrong... just my .02.
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
bigmarc27
Footballguy
The face on my watch smashed yesterday. I had to talk the wife out of immediately going to the store and buying me a new one just so I could at least explore the option of fixing it. Anyone have any experiences they’d like to share with trying to fix / pay to fix the face?
Mario Kart
Footballguy
I bought an Ionic when it first came out. Like the app, battery, and so on. Last summer it stopped working. Got a replacement after about three weeks. Last couple weeks a button quit working and it’s a little weirder now since the one button doesn’t work. Contacted Fitbit and they pretty much told me to pound sand. Gave me a 25% off of a new Fitbit but with sales in stores, this “coupon” is pretty much no use.
Would not mind a Charge 3 but am pissed at Fitbit. Is the Apple Watch a worthy competitor or are there too many differences to go forward with an Apple Watch? Curious to hear from others.
Would not mind a Charge 3 but am pissed at Fitbit. Is the Apple Watch a worthy competitor or are there too many differences to go forward with an Apple Watch? Curious to hear from others.
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Insoxicated
I smashed mine a year ago. Replaced by Apple store via Apple care. Has worked great since... water seal still worksThe face on my watch smashed yesterday. I had to talk the wife out of immediately going to the store and buying me a new one just so I could at least explore the option of fixing it. Anyone have any experiences they’d like to share with trying to fix / pay to fix the face?
Mario Kart
Footballguy
How long does the battery last? I’m having trouble thinking about buying one without being able to track sleep cause it has to recharge.
culdeus
Footballguy
It takes next to no time to charge, just wake up, charge it and pick it up off the cradle before leaving the house is what might work
D-Day
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culdeus
Footballguy
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Honestly I’m a guy who can barely get through a day with a 5000mah battery pack on my iPhone X (ie a power user) and I have no problem getting over 24 hours out of the Apple Watch. I’ve gone 2 days before but it’s close.Mario Kart said:
If you’re looking for several days of charge, it’s not for you. If you’ll charge it once every day or two, you’ll be fine.
It also charges VERY quickly off a 2.1A block.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
Is the fitness tracker of the same quality as the Fitbits? With what you wrote, I could see charging it while I shower because I would never test the water issue. So, charging for 10-15 minutes would be the charging time. A part of me says to wait for the Series 5 but there are no sales going on right now anyway.
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Insoxicated
I’d say you’ll probably get a day’s use out of 15-25 mins of charging depending on your useage. I put mine on at 6:30 am and I’m at 70% right now.
Fitness tracker seems quite accurate.
