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10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto

1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

3. Abolition of all right of inheritance.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.

7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

8. Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.

10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c., &c.

 


10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto

10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c., &c.
Having met several people from Russia and spoken with people who have been in Russia - The one thing that the USSR did great was educate the masses, especially in math and engineering.
 
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10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries

10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production
Pretty sure these have been in existence in America for the better part of 200 years. Does that mean that we've always been half-communist??
 


10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries

10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production
Pretty sure these have been in existence in America for the better part of 200 years. Does that mean that we've always been half-communist??
I think #4 should be included as well :popcorn:
 


10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries

10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production
Pretty sure these have been in existence in America for the better part of 200 years. Does that mean that we've always been half-communist??
I don't think so on #6.2, 5, and 10: definitely.

9 is currently in progress of becoming true for us.

You can make an argument for #4 since Obama doesn't want anyone to own a gun.

 
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10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto

10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c., &c.
Having met several people from Russia and spoken with people who have been in Russia - The one thing that the USSR did great was educate the masses, especially in math and engineering.
And we can thank Martin Luther for advocating compulsory schooling as a means for individual salvation (reading and writing about the bible).The first compulsory education laws in America were passed in Massachusetts in the 1850s, and were based on the education ideals set forth by the Massachusetts Bay colony.

 


10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries

10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production
Pretty sure these have been in existence in America for the better part of 200 years. Does that mean that we've always been half-communist??
I don't think so on #6.2, 5, and 10: definitely.

9 is currently in progress of becoming true for us.

You can make an argument for #4 since Obama doesn't want anyone to own a gun.
Odd and thats the first one I was for sure on...The FCC, Department of Transportation, & the FAA come to mind

 


10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries

10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production
Pretty sure these have been in existence in America for the better part of 200 years. Does that mean that we've always been half-communist??
I don't think so on #6.2, 5, and 10: definitely.

9 is currently in progress of becoming true for us.

You can make an argument for #4 since Obama doesn't want anyone to own a gun.
#5 is not happening and I don't see anyone in government trying to ban private equity.#10, yeah that's a bad one - free education and preventing kids from working in factories

#9, WTH does that even mean and how can you say it's becoming true? Even if it is, are you saying it's due to something outside of market forces?

 


10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries

10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production
Pretty sure these have been in existence in America for the better part of 200 years. Does that mean that we've always been half-communist??
I don't think so on #6.2, 5, and 10: definitely.

9 is currently in progress of becoming true for us.

You can make an argument for #4 since Obama doesn't want anyone to own a gun.
Odd and thats the first one I was for sure on...The FCC, Department of Transportation, & the FAA come to mind
You'd rather have anarchy? Those agencies make our communication and transportation work, not hinder it.
 


10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries

10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production
Pretty sure these have been in existence in America for the better part of 200 years. Does that mean that we've always been half-communist??
I don't think so on #6.2, 5, and 10: definitely.

9 is currently in progress of becoming true for us.

You can make an argument for #4 since Obama doesn't want anyone to own a gun.
#5 is not happening and I don't see anyone in government trying to ban private equity.#10, yeah that's a bad one - free education and preventing kids from working in factories

#9, WTH does that even mean and how can you say it's becoming true? Even if it is, are you saying it's due to something outside of market forces?
#5: We have a central bank and our credit is centralized via three banks. Your credit always follows you. I agree, the last part isn't relevant.#10: Nothing wrong with that, but our country isn't executing this very well.

#9: see The Farm Bill. Farmers are getting subsidized like crazy. Small farms that aren't getting government money are having a rough go of it.

 


10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries

10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production
Pretty sure these have been in existence in America for the better part of 200 years. Does that mean that we've always been half-communist??
I don't think so on #6.2, 5, and 10: definitely.

9 is currently in progress of becoming true for us.

You can make an argument for #4 since Obama doesn't want anyone to own a gun.
Odd and thats the first one I was for sure on...The FCC, Department of Transportation, & the FAA come to mind
True, but the Internet and telephone system isn't owned and run by the government. They might spy on you if they think you're a terrorist, but they aren't controlled by the government. Meanwhile, I interpreted transport as truck and train companies.
 
Socialist Party Of America 1928 Platform

Herewith the economic planks of the Socialist party platform of 1928, along with an indication in parenthesis of how these planks have fared. The list that follows includes every economic plank, but not the full language of each.*

1. "Nationalization of our natural resources, beginning with the coal mines and water sites, particularly at Boulder Dam and Muscle Shoals." (Boulder Dam, renamed Hoover Dam, and Muscle Shoals are now both federal government projects.)

2. "A publicly owned giant power system under which the federal government shall cooperate with the states and municipalities in the distribution of electrical energy to the people at cost." (Tennessee Valley Authority.)

3. "National ownership and democratic management of railroads and other means of transportation and communication." (Railroad passenger service is completely nationalized through Amtrak. Some freight service is nationalized through Conrail. The FCC controls communications by telephone, telegraph, radio, and television.)

4. "An adequate national program for flood control, flood relief, reforestation, irrigation, and reclamation." (Government expenditures for these purposes are currently in the many [non-adjusted] billions of dollars.)

5. "Immediate government relief of the unemployed by the extension of all public works and a program of long range planning of public works …" (In the 1930s, WPA and PWA were a direct counterpart; now, a wide variety of other programs are.) "All persons thus employed to be engaged at hours and wages fixed by bona-fide labor unions." (The Davis-Bacon and Walsh-Healey Acts required contractors with government contracts to pay "prevailing wages," generally interpreted as highest union wages.)

6. "Loans to states and municipalities without interest for the purpose of carrying on public works and the taking of such other measures as will lessen widespread misery." (Federal grants in aid to states and local municipalities currently total [non-adjusted] tens of billions of dollars a year.)

7. "A system of unemployment insurance." (Part of Social Security system)

8. "The nation-wide extension of public employment agencies in cooperation with city federations of labor." (U.S. Employment Service and affiliated state employment services administer a network of about 2,500 [in 1980] local employment offices.)

9. "A system of health and accident insurance and of old age pensions as well as unemployment insurance." (Part of Social Security system.)

10. "Shortening the workday" and "Securing to every worker a rest period of no less than two days in each week." (Legislated by wages and hours laws that require overtime for more than forty hours of work per week.)

11. "Enacting of an adequate federal anti-child labor amendment." (Not achieved as amendment, but essence incorporated in various legislative acts.)

12. "Abolition of the brutal exploitation of convicts under the contract system and substitution of a cooperative organization of industries in penitentiaries and workshops for the benefit of convicts and their dependents." (Party achieved, partly not.)

13. "Increase of taxation on high income levels, of corporation taxes and inheritance taxes, the proceeds to be used for old age pensions and other forms of social insurance." (In 1928, highest personal income tax rate, 25 percent; in 1978, 70 percent; in 1928, corporate tax rate, 12 percent; in 1978, 48 percent; in 1928, top federal estate tax rate, 20 percent; in 1978, 70 percent.)

14. "Appropriation by taxation of the annual rental value of all land held for speculation." (Not achieved in this form, but property taxes have risen drastically.)**

________

* Free to Choose (©1980), Milton & Rose Friedman, pg. 311

** Taxing geo-rent is the only good idea in this list, and also the only one not implemented

 
Socialist Party Of America 1928 Platform

Herewith the economic planks of the Socialist party platform of 1928, along with an indication in parenthesis of how these planks have fared. The list that follows includes every economic plank, but not the full language of each.*

1. "Nationalization of our natural resources, beginning with the coal mines and water sites, particularly at Boulder Dam and Muscle Shoals." (Boulder Dam, renamed Hoover Dam, and Muscle Shoals are now both federal government projects.)

2. "A publicly owned giant power system under which the federal government shall cooperate with the states and municipalities in the distribution of electrical energy to the people at cost." (Tennessee Valley Authority.)

3. "National ownership and democratic management of railroads and other means of transportation and communication." (Railroad passenger service is completely nationalized through Amtrak. Some freight service is nationalized through Conrail. The FCC controls communications by telephone, telegraph, radio, and television.)

4. "An adequate national program for flood control, flood relief, reforestation, irrigation, and reclamation." (Government expenditures for these purposes are currently in the many [non-adjusted] billions of dollars.)

5. "Immediate government relief of the unemployed by the extension of all public works and a program of long range planning of public works …" (In the 1930s, WPA and PWA were a direct counterpart; now, a wide variety of other programs are.) "All persons thus employed to be engaged at hours and wages fixed by bona-fide labor unions." (The Davis-Bacon and Walsh-Healey Acts required contractors with government contracts to pay "prevailing wages," generally interpreted as highest union wages.)

6. "Loans to states and municipalities without interest for the purpose of carrying on public works and the taking of such other measures as will lessen widespread misery." (Federal grants in aid to states and local municipalities currently total [non-adjusted] tens of billions of dollars a year.)

7. "A system of unemployment insurance." (Part of Social Security system)

8. "The nation-wide extension of public employment agencies in cooperation with city federations of labor." (U.S. Employment Service and affiliated state employment services administer a network of about 2,500 [in 1980] local employment offices.)

9. "A system of health and accident insurance and of old age pensions as well as unemployment insurance." (Part of Social Security system.)

10. "Shortening the workday" and "Securing to every worker a rest period of no less than two days in each week." (Legislated by wages and hours laws that require overtime for more than forty hours of work per week.)

11. "Enacting of an adequate federal anti-child labor amendment." (Not achieved as amendment, but essence incorporated in various legislative acts.)

12. "Abolition of the brutal exploitation of convicts under the contract system and substitution of a cooperative organization of industries in penitentiaries and workshops for the benefit of convicts and their dependents." (Party achieved, partly not.)

13. "Increase of taxation on high income levels, of corporation taxes and inheritance taxes, the proceeds to be used for old age pensions and other forms of social insurance." (In 1928, highest personal income tax rate, 25 percent; in 1978, 70 percent; in 1928, corporate tax rate, 12 percent; in 1978, 48 percent; in 1928, top federal estate tax rate, 20 percent; in 1978, 70 percent.)

14. "Appropriation by taxation of the annual rental value of all land held for speculation." (Not achieved in this form, but property taxes have risen drastically.)**

________

* Free to Choose (©1980), Milton & Rose Friedman, pg. 311

** Taxing geo-rent is the only good idea in this list, and also the only one not implemented
Looks like they was spot on! :popcorn:
 
Socialist Party Of America 1928 Platform

Herewith the economic planks of the Socialist party platform of 1928, along with an indication in parenthesis of how these planks have fared. The list that follows includes every economic plank, but not the full language of each.*

1. "Nationalization of our natural resources, beginning with the coal mines and water sites, particularly at Boulder Dam and Muscle Shoals." (Boulder Dam, renamed Hoover Dam, and Muscle Shoals are now both federal government projects.)

2. "A publicly owned giant power system under which the federal government shall cooperate with the states and municipalities in the distribution of electrical energy to the people at cost." (Tennessee Valley Authority.)

3. "National ownership and democratic management of railroads and other means of transportation and communication." (Railroad passenger service is completely nationalized through Amtrak. Some freight service is nationalized through Conrail. The FCC controls communications by telephone, telegraph, radio, and television.)

4. "An adequate national program for flood control, flood relief, reforestation, irrigation, and reclamation." (Government expenditures for these purposes are currently in the many [non-adjusted] billions of dollars.)

5. "Immediate government relief of the unemployed by the extension of all public works and a program of long range planning of public works …" (In the 1930s, WPA and PWA were a direct counterpart; now, a wide variety of other programs are.) "All persons thus employed to be engaged at hours and wages fixed by bona-fide labor unions." (The Davis-Bacon and Walsh-Healey Acts required contractors with government contracts to pay "prevailing wages," generally interpreted as highest union wages.)

6. "Loans to states and municipalities without interest for the purpose of carrying on public works and the taking of such other measures as will lessen widespread misery." (Federal grants in aid to states and local municipalities currently total [non-adjusted] tens of billions of dollars a year.)

7. "A system of unemployment insurance." (Part of Social Security system)

8. "The nation-wide extension of public employment agencies in cooperation with city federations of labor." (U.S. Employment Service and affiliated state employment services administer a network of about 2,500 [in 1980] local employment offices.)

9. "A system of health and accident insurance and of old age pensions as well as unemployment insurance." (Part of Social Security system.)

10. "Shortening the workday" and "Securing to every worker a rest period of no less than two days in each week." (Legislated by wages and hours laws that require overtime for more than forty hours of work per week.)

11. "Enacting of an adequate federal anti-child labor amendment." (Not achieved as amendment, but essence incorporated in various legislative acts.)

12. "Abolition of the brutal exploitation of convicts under the contract system and substitution of a cooperative organization of industries in penitentiaries and workshops for the benefit of convicts and their dependents." (Party achieved, partly not.)

13. "Increase of taxation on high income levels, of corporation taxes and inheritance taxes, the proceeds to be used for old age pensions and other forms of social insurance." (In 1928, highest personal income tax rate, 25 percent; in 1978, 70 percent; in 1928, corporate tax rate, 12 percent; in 1978, 48 percent; in 1928, top federal estate tax rate, 20 percent; in 1978, 70 percent.)

14. "Appropriation by taxation of the annual rental value of all land held for speculation." (Not achieved in this form, but property taxes have risen drastically.)**

________

* Free to Choose (©1980), Milton & Rose Friedman, pg. 311

** Taxing geo-rent is the only good idea in this list, and also the only one not implemented
Looks like they was spot on! :thumbup:
They they did better than the 2004 Republicans:Winning the War on Terror

Ushering in an Ownership Era

Building an Innovative, Globally Competitive Economy

Strengthening Our Communities

Protecting Our Families

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/Sections...004platform.pdf

 


10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto

10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c., &c.
Having met several people from Russia and spoken with people who have been in Russia - The one thing that the USSR did great was educate the masses, especially in math and engineering.
Yeah, because there was nothing else to do.
 


10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto

10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c., &c.
Having met several people from Russia and spoken with people who have been in Russia - The one thing that the USSR did great was educate the masses, especially in math and engineering.
I don't believe in that sort of thing, and you shouldn't either.
 
What was the point of this thread, other than a poorly disguised, horribly thought out and terribly executed attack on Obama?
How in the world is the Communist Manifesto an attack on Obama?
Then what was the point of your thread and what did you mean by "some of these seem very familiar"?
You still have not answered my question. Once again, how could a thread about Communist Manifesto be an attack on Obama?
 
What was the point of this thread, other than a poorly disguised, horribly thought out and terribly executed attack on Obama?
How in the world is the Communist Manifesto an attack on Obama?
Then what was the point of your thread and what did you mean by "some of these seem very familiar"?
You still have not answered my question. Once again, how could a thread about Communist Manifesto be an attack on Obama?
You still have not answered my question. Once again, what was the point of this thread?
 
What was the point of this thread, other than a poorly disguised, horribly thought out and terribly executed attack on Obama?
How in the world is the Communist Manifesto an attack on Obama?
Then what was the point of your thread and what did you mean by "some of these seem very familiar"?
You still have not answered my question. Once again, how could a thread about Communist Manifesto be an attack on Obama?
You still have not answered my question. Once again, what was the point of this thread?
Let me ask you both a question:Would you please answer each others questions?
 
What was the point of this thread, other than a poorly disguised, horribly thought out and terribly executed attack on Obama?
How in the world is the Communist Manifesto an attack on Obama?
Then what was the point of your thread and what did you mean by "some of these seem very familiar"?
You still have not answered my question. Once again, how could a thread about Communist Manifesto be an attack on Obama?
You still have not answered my question. Once again, what was the point of this thread?
why don't you two go down to the gym and pump each other
 
What was the point of this thread, other than a poorly disguised, horribly thought out and terribly executed attack on Obama?
How in the world is the Communist Manifesto an attack on Obama?
Then what was the point of your thread and what did you mean by "some of these seem very familiar"?
You still have not answered my question. Once again, how could a thread about Communist Manifesto be an attack on Obama?
Because the Right loves to equate liberal ideas with Socialism and/or Communism. This thread seems a pretty obvious swipe along those lines. :hophead:
 
What was the point of this thread, other than a poorly disguised, horribly thought out and terribly executed attack on Obama?
How in the world is the Communist Manifesto an attack on Obama?
Then what was the point of your thread and what did you mean by "some of these seem very familiar"?
You still have not answered my question. Once again, how could a thread about Communist Manifesto be an attack on Obama?
You still have not answered my question. Once again, what was the point of this thread?
Let me ask you both a question:Would you please answer each others questions?
Well if you read the entire thread many posters have already pointed out how the 10 planks are present in our American Government today. Now how that can be seen as attack on Obama is beyond me. Now I am a Libertarian and I view this as an attack on the current state of affairs in our country and I am pretty sure the Democrats and the GOP are the ones that got us here.
 
First of all, I don't think The Communist Manifesto has planks, so this is obviously someone's interpretation.

Second, I think that if Marx lived in the United States at this time, he would not be a communist. His critique of capitalism was based on the beginnings of the industrial revolution: child labor, horrible labor conditions, a small minority owning everything, and most important of all, a fixed amount of resources and wealth. He never realized that capitalism actually creates new wealth rather than steal it.

 


10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
Pretty sure these have been in existence in America for the better part of 200 years. Does that mean that we've always been half-communist??
it has?
:goodposting: Progressive income tax since 1913, plus a less progressive variation in 1861-72. That's 106 of the past 200 years, i.e. "the better part of".
okay
 
First of all, I don't think The Communist Manifesto has planks, so this is obviously someone's interpretation.

Second, I think that if Marx lived in the United States at this time, he would not be a communist. His critique of capitalism was based on the beginnings of the industrial revolution: child labor, horrible labor conditions, a small minority owning everything, and most important of all, a fixed amount of resources and wealth. He never realized that capitalism actually creates new wealth rather than steal it.
Karl Marx also called governmental social welfare programs as "buying off the revolution", "throwing crumbs to the workers" to keep them in line. Funny how advocates of these programs that Marx believed thwarted the revolution are labeled socialist. I call this spending "internal defense". There also seems to be a missing piece in the struggle between the privileged class and the exploited working class - the buffering middle class.

 
First of all, I don't think The Communist Manifesto has planks, so this is obviously someone's interpretation.

Second, I think that if Marx lived in the United States at this time, he would not be a communist. His critique of capitalism was based on the beginnings of the industrial revolution: child labor, horrible labor conditions, a small minority owning everything, and most important of all, a fixed amount of resources and wealth. He never realized that capitalism actually creates new wealth rather than steal it.
Interesting. How exactly does capitalism go about creating new wealth? Does it materialize out of thin air?
 
First of all, I don't think The Communist Manifesto has planks, so this is obviously someone's interpretation.

Second, I think that if Marx lived in the United States at this time, he would not be a communist. His critique of capitalism was based on the beginnings of the industrial revolution: child labor, horrible labor conditions, a small minority owning everything, and most important of all, a fixed amount of resources and wealth. He never realized that capitalism actually creates new wealth rather than steal it.
Interesting. How exactly does capitalism go about creating new wealth? Does it materialize out of thin air?
I think he was talking about the economic growth that a capitalistic system tends to create.
 
First of all, I don't think The Communist Manifesto has planks, so this is obviously someone's interpretation.

Second, I think that if Marx lived in the United States at this time, he would not be a communist. His critique of capitalism was based on the beginnings of the industrial revolution: child labor, horrible labor conditions, a small minority owning everything, and most important of all, a fixed amount of resources and wealth. He never realized that capitalism actually creates new wealth rather than steal it.
Interesting. How exactly does capitalism go about creating new wealth? Does it materialize out of thin air?
I think he was talking about the economic growth that a capitalistic system tends to create.
I hope you are right and that's what he was trying to say.
 
First of all, I don't think The Communist Manifesto has planks, so this is obviously someone's interpretation.

Second, I think that if Marx lived in the United States at this time, he would not be a communist. His critique of capitalism was based on the beginnings of the industrial revolution: child labor, horrible labor conditions, a small minority owning everything, and most important of all, a fixed amount of resources and wealth. He never realized that capitalism actually creates new wealth rather than steal it.
Karl Marx also called governmental social welfare programs as "buying off the revolution", "throwing crumbs to the workers" to keep them in line. Funny how advocates of these programs that Marx believed thwarted the revolution are labeled socialist. I call this spending "internal defense". There also seems to be a missing piece in the struggle between the privileged class and the exploited working class - the buffering middle class.
I didn't knew he thought of it that way. That's how I think of it and it's why I'm puzzled that so many Republicans don't understand the value to business of keeping the poor happy and the country stable.
 


10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries

10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production
Pretty sure these have been in existence in America for the better part of 200 years. Does that mean that we've always been half-communist??
I don't think so on #6.
Odd and thats the first one I was for sure on...The FCC, Department of Transportation, & the FAA come to mind
Means = A method, a course of action, or an instrument by which an act can be accomplished or an end achieved. There is no government television station, railway or airline. Regulating private industry does not qualify us for #6.
 


10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries

10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production
Pretty sure these have been in existence in America for the better part of 200 years. Does that mean that we've always been half-communist??
I don't think so on #6.
Odd and thats the first one I was for sure on...The FCC, Department of Transportation, & the FAA come to mind
Means = A method, a course of action, or an instrument by which an act can be accomplished or an end achieved. There is no government television station, railway or airline. Regulating private industry does not qualify us for #6.
PBS?Doesn't Amtrack get monstrous subsidies from the govt and should they not, they'd go under immediately? I know all airlines get subsidies to connect to small airports.

 
First of all, I don't think The Communist Manifesto has planks, so this is obviously someone's interpretation.

Second, I think that if Marx lived in the United States at this time, he would not be a communist. His critique of capitalism was based on the beginnings of the industrial revolution: child labor, horrible labor conditions, a small minority owning everything, and most important of all, a fixed amount of resources and wealth. He never realized that capitalism actually creates new wealth rather than steal it.
Karl Marx also called governmental social welfare programs as "buying off the revolution", "throwing crumbs to the workers" to keep them in line. Funny how advocates of these programs that Marx believed thwarted the revolution are labeled socialist. I call this spending "internal defense". There also seems to be a missing piece in the struggle between the privileged class and the exploited working class - the buffering middle class.
I didn't knew he thought of it that way. That's how I think of it and it's why I'm puzzled that so many Republicans don't understand the value to business of keeping the poor happy and the country stable.
They do understand it, but they want those tasks to be handled by the private sector (i.e., Walmart and NASCAR).
 

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