Not sure what I was doing in 1990 but it wasn't listening to music. or at least not the same as you. I recognize 1 of these songs by title and after listening there is one more that I know.
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101 Best Songs of 1990 - #1 George Michael - Freedom '90 (1 Viewer)
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scorchy
Footballguy
Interesting. Age thing, maybe? I get a bit the same way in Tim's 70s countdowns because I was a little kid and no doubt would be lost in a 2010 retrospective.Not sure what I was doing in 1990 but it wasn't listening to music. or at least not the same as you. I recognize 1 of these songs by title and after listening there is one more that I know.
FatMax
Member
Interesting. Age thing, maybe? I get a bit the same way in Tim's 70s countdowns because I was a little kid and no doubt would be lost in a 2010 retrospective.Not sure what I was doing in 1990 but it wasn't listening to music. or at least not the same as you. I recognize 1 of these songs by title and after listening there is one more that I know.
I'm borderline that way in this thread. For the majority of 1990, I was 14 years old, turning 15 late in the year. I liked music then, but that was when most of my listening was top 40 stuff. It wasn't until a couple of years later that I began to find my own taste beyond current pop.
Sleestak
Footballguy
Late to the party. Concur that Bloodletting is a fantastic album. For me, only beaten out in 1990 by Disintegration.
zamboni
Footballguy
Chasing around Marshall, Will and Holly will do that.
I was 25 in 1990.Interesting. Age thing, maybe? I get a bit the same way in Tim's 70s countdowns because I was a little kid and no doubt would be lost in a 2010 retrospective.Not sure what I was doing in 1990 but it wasn't listening to music. or at least not the same as you. I recognize 1 of these songs by title and after listening there is one more that I know.
John Maddens Lunchbox
Socialism for Dummies
I was going to reply to this but i disappeared down a Mariah Careys sister wormhole that kept getting darker and darker.
Anyway on pure impact, from this list I would have included
Justify My Love
Gonna Make You Sweat
Vision of Love
Justify My Love was Madonna at her chameleon best. Lots of interesting stories about the writing, recording, film clip and release of the song.
Gonna Make You Sweat had some great remixes and alternate takes with extreme graphic lyrics. Fun at first, revolting on repeat.
Now the lovely Mariah…..The trainwreck came later, but when this was released I was hooked. Loved her voice, the sound and her look. Very impressive. Bought her first five singles but then again so did a lot of people.
At some stage early on i found out her sister Alison was a hooker who funded Mariahs early demo and start to her career before Tommy Mattolo fell in love with her and took over. Mariah did help her sister for awhile, but like a lot of troubled people it was never enough. Alison always needed more help and money. Mariah cut her off in the mid 90s. Alison got arrested in 2016 or something in her mid 50s still hooking, on substances and homeless. Quite sad really. No blame on Mariah. She can only do so much. Mariah herself earned the diva reputation but she had just a tough a upringing, but Alison was being pimped out by a family friend at the age pf 10, so wins the hardship contest. The family recognised Mariahs talent and she was seen as the ticket out. Thats a lot of pressure for a troubled kid.
Its hard to find internet proof of all these stories, but i read them in the 90s from what seemed a reliable source, but who knows?
For comedic value i would have added Vanilla Ice, Stevie B and Glenn Medeiros
Ice Ice Baby is such a ludicrous monster hit that we as a society were so desperate to find a white rapping superstar, we settled on this…..the Beastie Boys had been recording for years people.
Stevie B. I once met a huge fan of his in North Queensland Australia. He was devastated when this became a hit. Its nothing like his other material apparently. He demanded i stop the car and he got out in the middle of nowhere when i put it on lol.
Glenn Medeiros. Ok, Nothings gonna Change My love was a huge international hit. On this UK tv show they were playing the new releases, one of which was his follow up single. The panel took the absolute piss out of him, his look, his sound. Emasculating stuff. The whole nine yards. Then the host revealed that Medeiros was backstage and introduced him to come to the audience. Everyone one was mortified and its one of the most cringe worthy moments of TV ever. Poor Glenn looked a shattered shell as people tried to cheer him up. Glad he could come back for at least one more hit.
scorchy
Footballguy
#2 Sinead O'Connor - Nothing Compares 2 U
I have so much to write about Sinead but no idea on where to start. Anyone who, like me, has watched the docs or read her bio knows all about the unimaginable abuse she suffered at the hands of her mother and then through the church - no need to repeat here. SInead was complicated and damaged and angry, but (maybe until the end), she was never broken. She was just 20 when she wrote and recorded her Grammy-nominated debut and 23 when she achieved her first and only #1 single. She reached the top and then decided she didn't want it. The backlash over ripping up a picture of the pope seems like something that wouldn't happen today. First of all, history has shown she was right. But getting banned by SNL, booed off stage at a freaking Bob Dylan tribute concert in NYC, mocked by Madonna, threatened with violence by Joe Pesci... When asked about the SNL protest derailing her career, Sinead famously responded: "They're talking about the career they had in mind for me. I ####ed up the house in Antigua that the record company dudes wanted to buy. I ####ed up their career, not mine."
Enough from me. Here's one of my favorite music critic's (Rob Harvilla's) take on Nothing Compares 2 U:
The single reached #1 on the Hot 100 in spring 1990 and stayed there for four weeks. Billboard ranked it as the #1 song of 1990 and the #77th best single of all time. Rolling Stone lists it at #165. Sinead though, thanks to a bad run in with Prince, basically stopped playing it:
I have so much to write about Sinead but no idea on where to start. Anyone who, like me, has watched the docs or read her bio knows all about the unimaginable abuse she suffered at the hands of her mother and then through the church - no need to repeat here. SInead was complicated and damaged and angry, but (maybe until the end), she was never broken. She was just 20 when she wrote and recorded her Grammy-nominated debut and 23 when she achieved her first and only #1 single. She reached the top and then decided she didn't want it. The backlash over ripping up a picture of the pope seems like something that wouldn't happen today. First of all, history has shown she was right. But getting banned by SNL, booed off stage at a freaking Bob Dylan tribute concert in NYC, mocked by Madonna, threatened with violence by Joe Pesci... When asked about the SNL protest derailing her career, Sinead famously responded: "They're talking about the career they had in mind for me. I ####ed up the house in Antigua that the record company dudes wanted to buy. I ####ed up their career, not mine."
Enough from me. Here's one of my favorite music critic's (Rob Harvilla's) take on Nothing Compares 2 U:
The single reached #1 on the Hot 100 in spring 1990 and stayed there for four weeks. Billboard ranked it as the #1 song of 1990 and the #77th best single of all time. Rolling Stone lists it at #165. Sinead though, thanks to a bad run in with Prince, basically stopped playing it:
scorchy
Footballguy
The
was for the entire knowledge-drop, definitely not for the Mariah/sister/hooker story. For the record though, I kind of prefer trainwreck Mariah, but then again, I'm a Courtney Love fan too.
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
Man WTF
I know this one.
John Maddens Lunchbox
Socialism for Dummies
Its sad that it took her death for people to finally have some empathy.
I know I talk of Bono occasionally, but he went out of his way to encourage her as an artist and be there for her as a person.
She repeatedly lashed out at him and he never lashed back. He always knew the pain she was in.
She said that one of her reasons for getting up in the morning was so that Bono wouldnt eulogise at her funeral.
She dreaded the concept of Bono saying nice things. She HAD to outlive him
Sadly she didnt or way too early anyway.
I dont think Bono has said anything publicly after her death. He genuinely had a soft spot for her.
They worked together a few times. Look at the “Ballad of Ronnie Drew” film clip from an allstar Irish cast that was number one in ireland for weeks, dedicated to the Dublineers singer, where both are near each other.
You can tell Sinead admired him a lot.
As for this song, if ever there was a case for a superior cover to the original, this is it.
Tick
Footballguy
I had a friend that was turning what would now be called Goth - at the time, they called themselves "alternative" in our town. I got to hear less mainstreamy stuff through him.Interesting. Age thing, maybe? I get a bit the same way in Tim's 70s countdowns because I was a little kid and no doubt would be lost in a 2010 retrospective.Not sure what I was doing in 1990 but it wasn't listening to music. or at least not the same as you. I recognize 1 of these songs by title and after listening there is one more that I know.
I'm borderline that way in this thread. For the majority of 1990, I was 14 years old, turning 15 late in the year. I liked music then, but that was when most of my listening was top 40 stuff. It wasn't until a couple of years later that I began to find my own taste beyond current pop.
Pictures of You is so great. My daughter got to see The Cure a couple of months ago and spent the months leading up to it listening to their music a ton (and branching out into other similar music from the era). It was cool to go back and listen to Disintegration, an album I heard many times but never owned. All I had was a greatest hits album of theirs called Standing on the Beach, Staring at the Sun (I think).
Hugsy_Malone
Footballguy
Standing On A Beach/Staring at the Sea
It's a great compilation, and one that got me into The Cure. It's still probably the be-all end-all for me and the Cure. Just a great memory. Just a great comp.
scorchy
Footballguy
Oh, Hugsy. Timely comment because you remind me of my favorite song from that compilation. You always seem to show up out of nowhere then vanish just as quickly.
Go on, go on, just walk away
Go on, go on, your choice is made
Go on, go on, and disappear
Go on, go on away from here
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Eminence get ya?
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Once again, it's a put on.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
It's kind of weird to talk about Prince's "original" version of Nothing Compare 2 U because nobody had heard it until it was released in 2018. Before Sinead, the only version available was the version recorded by The Family. And then Prince started doing it in concerts after Sinead hit. In any case, Sinead's version is lovely. Obviously, the video was also striking. And I certainly believe her story. Prince was a genius but also a real son of a *****. There are similar stories from Kim Basinger, Mayte, you name it.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Living Colour covered this song when I saw them a few weeks back at Sea Hear Now festival.
scorchy
Footballguy
#1 George Michael - Freedom '90
In the MAD31 British Isles countdown, I picked Freedom '90 as my second favorite UK (plus Ireland) song ever, trailing only Bad by U2. Still, in formulating the 1990 list, I was waffling as to which of the top 4 songs should be my #1. Listening to the playlist in the car with my son cemented that I should go with my heart - even as an 18-year old "regular dude" with very little taste for rock or pop, he expressed shock that I would consider anything other than George Michael. He claims that of all the songs that frequently show up on my Spotify playlists, Freedom '90 was his second favorite behind only Rocket Queen (1987) by GnR. Even relatively hip sources though (i.e., not just @Ramsay Hunt Experience) embrace its awesomeness:
From Vulture, writing about this live performance that still gives me goosebumps:
From Stereogum:
From Pitchfork, who rated it as the 16th best song of the decade:
Finally, Rolling Stone, which ranked Freedom '90 as the 126th best song of all time (the highest entry from 1990)
So there you have it. I proudly own my opinion that Freedom '90 was the best song of the year.
In the MAD31 British Isles countdown, I picked Freedom '90 as my second favorite UK (plus Ireland) song ever, trailing only Bad by U2. Still, in formulating the 1990 list, I was waffling as to which of the top 4 songs should be my #1. Listening to the playlist in the car with my son cemented that I should go with my heart - even as an 18-year old "regular dude" with very little taste for rock or pop, he expressed shock that I would consider anything other than George Michael. He claims that of all the songs that frequently show up on my Spotify playlists, Freedom '90 was his second favorite behind only Rocket Queen (1987) by GnR. Even relatively hip sources though (i.e., not just @Ramsay Hunt Experience) embrace its awesomeness:
From Vulture, writing about this live performance that still gives me goosebumps:
From Stereogum:
From Pitchfork, who rated it as the 16th best song of the decade:
Finally, Rolling Stone, which ranked Freedom '90 as the 126th best song of all time (the highest entry from 1990)
So there you have it. I proudly own my opinion that Freedom '90 was the best song of the year.
FatMax
Member
I remember liking this song a lot years ago, but it has been years since I've really listened. Looking forward to giving it a go on the home system this evening.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
I knew I could count on scorchy. Absolutely the right choice.
John Maddens Lunchbox
Socialism for Dummies
Kevin Smith tells the funniest Prince stories in his dvds.
I wonder who would win in a weird off between Prince and Michael Jackson?
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John Maddens Lunchbox
Socialism for Dummies
Yeah i liked Wham and the Faith LP but despite the obvious pop hooks and fun material they were like eating McDonalds.
Listen Without Prejudice hit me like a ton of bricks. It still has the great pop instincts and hooks, but theres heart, pain and emotion being poured out. Not sure if it ws a pleasant shock or just amazement at what i was listening too, but this LP is one of the few I can remember listening to for the first time vividly.
Well done Scorchy
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Yeah, it probably is. Certainly the best pop song of the year, and there's nothing close in that department.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
As I mentioned, Neil Young put out one of his best albums in 1990. Ragged Glory was every bit as raucous as the records with Crazy Horse that he put out in the '70s.
In my Neil countdown https://forums.footballguys.com/thr...02-204-notable-covers-and-other-stuff.786493/ I ranked the RG songs thusly:
11. F#*!n Up
31. Love to Burn
40. Love and Only Love
64. Days That Used to Be
89. White Line
93. Mansion on the Hill
113. Over and Over
119. Country Home
I did not rank covers but Farmer John would have been in the lower reaches of my top 204. I don't really care for Mother Earth (Natural Anthem).
I ranked the RG outtake Born to Run (not the Springsteen song) at #166. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhx87Xfvs_k
In my Neil countdown https://forums.footballguys.com/thr...02-204-notable-covers-and-other-stuff.786493/ I ranked the RG songs thusly:
11. F#*!n Up
31. Love to Burn
40. Love and Only Love
64. Days That Used to Be
89. White Line
93. Mansion on the Hill
113. Over and Over
119. Country Home
I did not rank covers but Farmer John would have been in the lower reaches of my top 204. I don't really care for Mother Earth (Natural Anthem).
I ranked the RG outtake Born to Run (not the Springsteen song) at #166. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhx87Xfvs_k
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Coincidentally the video for Freedom is right now playing on Pluto TV.
I think I'll watch it on mute though. It's not my jam.
Ironic that Michael wouldn't have been into these models.
I think I'll watch it on mute though. It's not my jam.
Ironic that Michael wouldn't have been into these models.
Hugsy_Malone
Footballguy
In the spirit of the Cure and 1990, I give you, a decade later . . .
Best Song From The Year 2000 Named After A Cure Album Shouted Out During A South Park Show
Okay, it's a short list.
Disintegration (Is The Best Album, Ever) - The Impossibles
Best Song From The Year 2000 Named After A Cure Album Shouted Out During A South Park Show
Okay, it's a short list.
Disintegration (Is The Best Album, Ever) - The Impossibles
scorchy
Footballguy
I'll see your Impossibles and raise you with a bunch of slack mother####ers from this countdown covering the song I quoted to you:
Superchunk - In Between Days
scorchy
Footballguy
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
I was all prepared to say that Superchunk doing Cure covers <<<<<<<<<< Superchunk doing Destiny's Child covers, but that was pretty good.
scorchy
Footballguy
Stay tuned. Coming up in the MAD thread, you're about to get Laura Jane Grace doing Michael McDonald covers to a backbeat from The Cure.
themeanmachine
Footballguy
Such a great job on this, and can’t wait for 1991. Really formative year for me and I listened to music non stop, a ton of great memories as I read through the thread, and our tastes are remarkably similar. Thanks for putting this together!
Hugsy_Malone
Footballguy
^One of my favorite avatars on the board
Hugsy_Malone
Footballguy
In my opinion, "Three Days" was the best song of 1990. Our generation's dysfunctional Led Zeppelin (I'm copping that from wikkidpissah of board fame), they were on to something with that song but never could follow through. Bands have a certain kind of inertia and youth is important in rock and roll (it's not an old man's game), so getting back together never had the effect that stalwart fans hoped it would.
This was the best we would ever get from Jane's, and it's one of the -- if not the -- best alt/mainstream guitar songs of the decade. A sprawling, self-indulgent attempt at some sort of religious and sexual liberation, Dave Navarro's guitar work while the rest of the band is totally in the pocket make the song extraordinary.
I've seen Jane's hit that camaraderie pocket before. When I saw them in Springfield, MA in 1990/91, they pulled out four beer coolers with microphones on them, and proceeded to have a drum circle to "Chip Away" (one of the songs off of the XXX album), which blew my young mind.
This was the best we would ever get from Jane's, and it's one of the -- if not the -- best alt/mainstream guitar songs of the decade. A sprawling, self-indulgent attempt at some sort of religious and sexual liberation, Dave Navarro's guitar work while the rest of the band is totally in the pocket make the song extraordinary.
I've seen Jane's hit that camaraderie pocket before. When I saw them in Springfield, MA in 1990/91, they pulled out four beer coolers with microphones on them, and proceeded to have a drum circle to "Chip Away" (one of the songs off of the XXX album), which blew my young mind.
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scorchy
Footballguy
Wish I had the same experience - saw them three times and they were middling to poor each one. First time was 1990 when me and a buddy road-tripped to Orlando and we were so disappointed. At least for the last two I kind of went in with tempered expectations.
Hugsy_Malone
Footballguy
Wish I had the same experience - saw them three times and they were middling to poor each one. First time was 1990 when me and a buddy road-tripped to Orlando and we were so disappointed. At least for the last two I kind of went in with tempered expectations.
Wow. They flat-out destroyed when I saw them. Thing I'll never forget. A bunch of skinheads had worked their way up in General Admission and were seig heiling the stage while Jane's was playing. (This was wont to happen in my area back then. It was the white power/hardcore scene run amok in bad ways -- lots of areas that supported hardcore and punk music at the time had this problem with Neo-Nazis at their shows. Ask Boston and the FSU crew that basically became an anti-Nazi gang replete with its own problems.) Anyway, Farrell looks out at the crowd and says, like he's a duck in water, "Hey! I'm a skinny little Jew -- just like you!" Band immediately launches into song.
Totally diffused the situation as the crowd was getting both scared and ornery at the scene. They quieted down for some reason after he did that.
Contrast that with a bunch of situations at hardcore shows I'd been at where there was just a fight as a result of garbage like that. The Nazis would start seig heiling and the band would just stop and lecture, and that never went anywhere. When a crowd gets like that, you apparently need to cut it down quickly and go on with the act instead of giving attention to the would-be depraved and violent circus that just came to town.
Anyway, they put on an absolute banger of a show. Kudos to them for all of that. Perry Farrell is a hell of a lot smarter, quicker, and sharper than people gave (and still give) him credit for.
scorchy
Footballguy
Way smarter than Anthony Kiedes, for sure.
Hugsy_Malone
Footballguy
Who is the guy that started that whole Kiedis/Patton dumb thing, anyway?
Wanna slap that dude.
plinko
Footballguy
A great job here, thanks for all the memories and conversation. And I know it's not your flavor, I just wanted to toss in Megadeth's Rust In Peace, the best metal album in a year that also featured Slayers Seasons In The Abyss and Judas Priest's Painkiller, two albums that are also impressive but wouldn't hold much broad appeal. This is Megadeth's best record and I didn't appreciate it as much as I should have at the time, as nobody from their generation would do anything this good again, and they wouldn't either. Iron Maiden went into over the hill mode. Metallica's 1991 self-titled was certainly a game-changer in hard rock but, similar to the 'ryche's Empire, it's not metal like this is (no digging at Metallica here, I respect the hell out of their music and their right to do whatever they felt good doing).
All the way through the mid-nineties Megadeth and Metallica were about even in my book, all told, and I even had a well worn mixtape of the two. This is Megadeth's peak.
Holy Wars
Hangar 18
Tornado of Souls
A quick aside, maybe being younger when I first started listening to them, I was conditioned to the Mustaine vocals and kinda silly lyrics, but they never bothered me. A lot of worse metal vox out there. And the musicianship here is impeccable.
Metal would live on, Pantera was a big deal though the anger generally eluded me, also a few years later Sepultura hit hard in a narrower sense, TOOL in a much larger sense. Anthrax would rebound somewhat, and some grungers had metal appeal, but really, to me, Rust In Peace put the exclamation point on this whole big era of metal as we knew it. ("O.G." Sabbathy metal found new life in Kyuss as we'll hear in the M.A.D. countdown, and you can draw a line from that to bands that are even still making music today)
One more non-metal 1990 honorable mention to come from me.
All the way through the mid-nineties Megadeth and Metallica were about even in my book, all told, and I even had a well worn mixtape of the two. This is Megadeth's peak.
Holy Wars
Hangar 18
Tornado of Souls
A quick aside, maybe being younger when I first started listening to them, I was conditioned to the Mustaine vocals and kinda silly lyrics, but they never bothered me. A lot of worse metal vox out there. And the musicianship here is impeccable.
Metal would live on, Pantera was a big deal though the anger generally eluded me, also a few years later Sepultura hit hard in a narrower sense, TOOL in a much larger sense. Anthrax would rebound somewhat, and some grungers had metal appeal, but really, to me, Rust In Peace put the exclamation point on this whole big era of metal as we knew it. ("O.G." Sabbathy metal found new life in Kyuss as we'll hear in the M.A.D. countdown, and you can draw a line from that to bands that are even still making music today)
One more non-metal 1990 honorable mention to come from me.
Hugsy_Malone
Footballguy
Seasons in the Abyss destroys this album, IMO. I believe Rust In Peace had the lyrics "military intelligence/two words combined that don't make sense" and insinuated that the government had been hiding aliens in a song called "Hangar 18," IIRC. They also had a lot of technically proficient but unappealing guitar solos that were far from their Peace Sells days
Whereas Seasons in the Abyss had the ever-punishing war lament "War Ensemble" with the more-accurate lyrics
Propaganda war ensemble
Burial to be
Bones, shining by the night
In blood-laced misery
Campaign of elimination
Twisted psychology
When victory is to survive
And death is defeat
Sport the war
War support
The sport is war, total war
When the end is a slaughter
The final swing is not a drill
It's how many people I can kill
Plus you have Kerry King solos and Dave Lombardo drumming. Perhaps Megadeth is more technically adept than Slayer (though Slayer could give anybody in thrash a run for their money), but Slayer's crunch, intelligence, and power outshone the guys from Megadeth that year.
Hugsy_Malone
Footballguy
Anyway, I say that not to be a contrarian, but to show my love for that damn Slayer album. That thing was heavy. Rick Rubin, when he gets a project and the artist gets him, does some wonderful things with artists. His was slowing Slayer down a little and making them sound more like Sabbath than like sped-up Reign In Blood-era Bay Area/L.A. thrash metal.
massraider
Footballguy
Huh, I remember them.
Nightclubs I worked at in college always had a few on the security team, just to keep relationship friendly.
Hugsy_Malone
Footballguy
But I'd like to voice an opinion that the countdown was a labor of love and something great, but missed one or two instrumental hardcore bands.
Youth Of Today came out with their eponymous 7" on Revelation Records which included songs "Disengage," "Modern Love Story," and "Envy" on it.
Inside Out, whose frontman Zach de la Rocha would go on to lead Rage Against the Machine, also came out with a 7" on Revelation Records that year. Their No Spiritual Surrender EP included the bombtrack "Undertone"
If this post is any indication, Revelation Records would continue its relevance in the hardcore/punk world by embracing straight edge hardcore and metal-sounding bands with punk consciousness. Breakdowns would abound everywhere in 1990, culminating in Rage's and Quicksand's later popularity.
Youth Of Today came out with their eponymous 7" on Revelation Records which included songs "Disengage," "Modern Love Story," and "Envy" on it.
Inside Out, whose frontman Zach de la Rocha would go on to lead Rage Against the Machine, also came out with a 7" on Revelation Records that year. Their No Spiritual Surrender EP included the bombtrack "Undertone"
If this post is any indication, Revelation Records would continue its relevance in the hardcore/punk world by embracing straight edge hardcore and metal-sounding bands with punk consciousness. Breakdowns would abound everywhere in 1990, culminating in Rage's and Quicksand's later popularity.
plinko
Footballguy
You'll get no argument from me, it's a great album, I mentioned it because it's so good it felt weird not to. I have a higher reverence for Rust In Peace, and especially in a more conventional setting like this one, and I mentioned, and am sure have demonstrated many times, I have a higher tolerance for silly lyrics. That is a hard art. I couldn't say whether Dave really thought there were aliens or was just having fun with it, though I'm sure I could figure it out if I cared to. He's a nut but can also be plenty tongue in cheek.
"Holy Wars" would have been a more apt comparison with "War Ensemble", no? (a little silly in places as well, for sure. Slayer didn't do silly).
I never had much luck getting people who didn't already love metal, into Slayer at all. So I don't often go there.
foxco
Footballguy
One of my favorite ever guitar solos. Supposedly after Marty Friedman's studio take Dave Mustaine listened to it, walked up to Marty, shook his hand, and walked away.
Great album.
scorchy
Footballguy
Thanks @plinko and @Hugsy_Malone - metal (outside of Metallica and a bit of Anthrax) and deeper punk bands were definitely not in my frame of reference. There were a few more mainstream punk tracks I considered but ultimately left off:
L7 - Shove
Jawbreaker - Want
Redd Kross - Annie's Gone (though RK weren't really punk anymore)
L7 - Shove
Jawbreaker - Want
Redd Kross - Annie's Gone (though RK weren't really punk anymore)
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