14 Killed in Shooting in San Bernardino (1 Viewer)

[SaintsInDome2006]

####. Fox is repeating the Islamic name from earlier, suggesting that this might be a terrorist attack.

Supposedly "stuff" about an Arab named man and an Arab woman have been said over the police scanner, and supposedly that's where that name originated. Who knows if that truly happened. They're probably being handed info from production assistants who just get it off the internet. Fox is not CNN, though they do have some real journalism, when the pundits and talking heads like O'Reilly get involved all bets are off. - Apparently the San Diego Union originally reported a middle eastern person being sighted, but they took that down. We've also heard Hispanic and white (which as it turns out was a hoax).

 

[jonessed]

link to twitter account, which shows a female suspect, smashed up (poss dead)... she's the one that fell out of the SUV

https://twitter.com/th3j35t3r/status/672223780232630273

is that a sports bra on the perp?

thick calves & thighs

Weirder and weirder.

Gangs typically don't have female soldiers, true enough?

Sure they do.

 

[Soulfly3]

if it is terrorism (which it is), why keeping the reins on it so tightly?

fearing backlash after "crapping" on the french for not being able to contain the attacks?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Greta just made a great point on TV about how brave law enforcement has been in this situation. True heroes.

Yep. SBPD have gone above and beyond the call of duty today. Heroes.

 

[glvsav37]

FBI guy says "possibility" of terrorist

 

[Soulfly3]

FBI now says "it's a possibility that it's terrorism, but dont want to say yet"

so, just lacking the balls to call a spade a spade?

 

[Christo]

Reins

 

[jonessed]

if it is terrorism (which it is), why keeping the reigns on it so tightly?

fearing backlash after "crapping" on the french for not being able to contain the attacks?

It just happened. I would rather they investigate first.

 

[glvsav37]

FBI now says "it's a possibility that it's terrorism, but dont want to say yet"

so, just lacking the balls to call a spade a spade?

I'm surprised he even let it go that far.

I'd rather they get the facts straight before letting everyone—us, news reporters, political candidates—jump to conclusions and start more crap

 

[Beef Ravioli]

FBI not willing to confirm terrorism but suggesting there are signs pointing that way. Listening to press conference

 

[quickhands]

link to twitter account, which shows a female suspect, smashed up (poss dead)... she's the one that fell out of the SUV

https://twitter.com/th3j35t3r/status/672223780232630273

is that a sports bra on the perp?thick calves & thighs

Ted Cruz said it was a liberal TG gang who pulled this off

Is this supposed to be funny?

 

[timschochet]

The guests on Fox are demanding that we destroy ISIS militarily and shut down dozens of suspicious mosques in the US. They've leaped to these conclusions based on the report of an Islamic name.

 

[Mario Kart]

You guys remember this? I recall seeing this live on tv.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZg4mcYkIwU

 

[TheMagus]

The guests on Fox are demanding that we destroy ISIS militarily and shut down dozens of suspicious mosques in the US. They've leaped to these conclusions based on the report of an Islamic name.

Good grief.

 

[timschochet]

Sorry but I'll repeat again that terrorists in San Bernardino just doesn't make too much sense.

 

[bud29]

The guests on Fox are demanding that we destroy ISIS militarily and shut down dozens of suspicious mosques in the US. They've leaped to these conclusions based on the report of an Islamic name.

Well....Are you surprised?

 

[mr roboto]

The guests on Fox are demanding that we destroy ISIS militarily and shut down dozens of suspicious mosques in the US. They've leaped to these conclusions based on the report of an Islamic name.

New to Fox?

 

[HellToupee]

The guests on Fox are demanding that we destroy ISIS militarily and shut down dozens of suspicious mosques in the US. They've leaped to these conclusions based on the report of an Islamic name.

Theres been a presser on fox for about 10 minutes now . Before that O'Reilly was cautioning not to jump to conclusions

 

[SIDA!]

Sorry but I'll repeat again that terrorists in San Bernardino just doesn't make too much sense.

I pretty much agree with this...the problem is...that some far there doesn't seem to be any explanation that makes much sense.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Sorry but I'll repeat again that terrorists in San Bernardino just doesn't make too much sense.

Actually no scenario exactly makes sense yet. The FBI haven't ruled out terrorism, they also haven't ruled anything else out by the sound of it.

 

[SofaKings]

You guys remember this? I recall seeing this live on tv.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZg4mcYkIwU

i remember turning on tv and seeing it in directv network la station. chaos

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Sorry but I'll repeat again that terrorists in San Bernardino just doesn't make too much sense.

you're an imbecile then.Terrorists aren't exactly the most sensible people

im pretty sure everyone in that area is terrified

 

[timschochet]

The guests on Fox are demanding that we destroy ISIS militarily and shut down dozens of suspicious mosques in the US. They've leaped to these conclusions based on the report of an Islamic name.

Theres been a presser on fox for about 10 minutes now . Before that O'Reilly was cautioning not to jump to conclusions

Ah- I'm not watching Fox; I'm listening to it on Sirius. So I may be a few minutes behind.

 

[Otis]

link to twitter account, which shows a female suspect, smashed up (poss dead)... she's the one that fell out of the SUV

https://twitter.com/th3j35t3r/status/672223780232630273

Probably not a good idea to post links to pics of dead bodies.

Why?

 

[TheMagus]

Sorry but I'll repeat again that terrorists in San Bernardino just doesn't make too much sense.

Well to a certain extent it does. Their ultimate goal is to gain power through fear. And hitting random senseless targets like that sends a message that no one is safe anywhere. Not even at your company Christmas party in a rental hall in some rando city.

I think there are other factors at work here that make it seem odd if this were ISIS, like the fact that they only seemed to target that one particular room and wore masks to hide their identities. I don't think that fits the typical MO.

Who knows at this point. It's all very odd.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

The guests on Fox are demanding that we destroy ISIS militarily and shut down dozens of suspicious mosques in the US. They've leaped to these conclusions based on the report of an Islamic name.

And Pres. Obama has already called for changes in the law based on what's happening in SB.

Everybody can throw their hat around for a while until the FBI sorts it out. Unfortunately this can't be discussed nationally without a #PoliticalFundraisingIssue behind it.

 

[Otis]

This can't be an ISIS thing can it? ISIS dude has a fight at his office Christmas party and storms out and calls a jihad with a few buddies at the local disabled persons' center?

wtf?

 

[grateful zed]

WHAT DO WE KNOW FOR SURE !!

 

[Soulfly3]

terrorists hitting smaller towns, is the "smartest" thing for them to do, wouldnt it?

everyone thought it was a big city thing... if they start hitting even small towns, everyone will be in fear

 

[Rove!]

Can't we just wait for the facts to come in before we go ape####?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

link to twitter account, which shows a female suspect, smashed up (poss dead)... she's the one that fell out of the SUV

https://twitter.com/th3j35t3r/status/672223780232630273

is that a sports bra on the perp?

thick calves & thighs

Weirder and weirder.

Gangs typically don't have female soldiers, true enough?

Sure they do.

Do they? With AR15s, and IED capability, and parts of hit squads?

 

[sho nuff]

terrorists hitting smaller towns, is the "smartest" thing for them to do, wouldnt it?

everyone thought it was a big city thing... if they start hitting even small towns, everyone will be in fear

Random conference room vs crowded mall? Covered identities as someone else mentioned?

All seems odd.

 

[SIDA!]

Sorry but I'll repeat again that terrorists in San Bernardino just doesn't make too much sense.

you're an imbecile then.Terrorists aren't exactly the most sensible people

He said it doesn't make too much sense.

And I agree. And we aren't known to agree on much.

People who are intimately familiar with this city/building/county department would all agree that it doesn't appear to a target for terrorists. Most people have never even heard of or know what the inland regional center does.

 

[quickhands]

terrorists hitting smaller towns, is the "smartest" thing for them to do, wouldnt it?

everyone thought it was a big city thing... if they start hitting even small towns, everyone will be in fear

Random conference room vs crowded mall? Covered identities as someone else mentioned?

All seems odd.

It is a government building, isn't it?

 

[timschochet]

Sorry but I'll repeat again that terrorists in San Bernardino just doesn't make too much sense.

Well to a certain extent it does. Their ultimate goal is to gain power through fear. And hitting random senseless targets like that sends a message that no one is safe anywhere. Not even at your company Christmas party in a rental hall in some rando city.

I think there are other factors at work here that make it seem odd if this were ISIS, like the fact that they only seemed to target that one particular room and wore masks to hide their identities. I don't think that fits the typical MO.

Who knows at this point. It's all very odd.

Maybe. But it really doesn't fit the pattern. New York, Paris, London. Terrorists strike these places not only because they strike fear but also because they represent the heart of western cosmopolitanism-everything about us they hate the most.

 

[SIDA!]

terrorists hitting smaller towns, is the "smartest" thing for them to do, wouldnt it?

everyone thought it was a big city thing... if they start hitting even small towns, everyone will be in fear

The pictures don't convey it because it is all occurring in an unincorporated area of the city...but San Bernardino is a large city with more than 200,000 people and the region, commonly referred to as the Inland Empire, has a land size and total population that exceeds about half the states in the Union.

 

[Soulfly3]

link to twitter account, which shows a female suspect, smashed up (poss dead)... she's the one that fell out of the SUV

https://twitter.com/th3j35t3r/status/672223780232630273

Probably not a good idea to post links to pics of dead bodies.

Why?

Idk.

I always thouggt Joe was against thongs...I assumed dead bodies were off limits?

I didnt link to a pic of a dead body tho.

I linked to a post that contained a link.

 

[Otis]

This can't be an ISIS thing can it? ISIS dude has a fight at his office Christmas party and storms out and calls a jihad with a few buddies at the local disabled persons' center?

wtf?

CNN reporting cops saying this is likely related to the fight at the Christmas party and the dude who left came back. This makes more sense...

... well, except for the part where he came back with body armor, AR-15s, pipe bombs, and a couple of his closest friends.

 

[Donkey Derp]

Sorry but I'll repeat again that terrorists in San Bernardino just doesn't make too much sense.

As soul fly posted, Eagles of Death Metal (band from Paris) had a song about San Bernardino. That just seems too weird. Maybe they have other songs about other cities, I don't know.

 

[Soulfly3]

Sorry but I'll repeat again that terrorists in San Bernardino just doesn't make too much sense.

As soul fly posted, Eagles of Death Metal (band from Paris) had a song about San Bernardino. That just seems too weird. Maybe they have other songs about other cities, I don't know.

Nope... and EODM are from just outside the city... like 30min away.

Im an old fan of theirs, and apparently San Berdoo is pretty relevant to them

hence why I brought this up as a conspiracy theory right away

 

[comfortably numb]

link to twitter account, which shows a female suspect, smashed up (poss dead)... she's the one that fell out of the SUV

https://twitter.com/th3j35t3r/status/672223780232630273

Probably not a good idea to post links to pics of dead bodies.

Why?

Idk.I always thouggt Joe was against thongs...I assumed dead bodies were off limits?

I didnt link to a pic of a dead body tho.

I linked to a post that contained a link.

Look

I'm not against it.

I just thought those type of posts were a potential TO.

Whether you post a direct link or a link to a link of what looks like a dead body.

 

[Guest]

This can't be an ISIS thing can it? ISIS dude has a fight at his office Christmas party and storms out and calls a jihad with a few buddies at the local disabled persons' center?

wtf?

CNN reporting cops saying this is likely related to the fight at the Christmas party and the dude who left came back. This makes more sense...

... well, except for the part where he came back with body armor, AR-15s, pipe bombs, and a couple of his closest friends.

In fairness, they have amazing Christmas parties.

 

[Soulfly3]

Look

I'm not against it.I just thought those type of posts were a potential TO.

Whether you post a direct link or a link to a link of what looks like a dead body.

If the link is against the rules, then so be it... I had no idea a link to a link was banned... Especially when the source of the tweet has been used countless times in this thread alone.

 

[mr roboto]

WHAT DO WE KNOW FOR SURE !!

Tim listens to Fox.

 

[Mr Fantasy]

Police officer on phone interview with O'Reilly said he didn't want to start an international incident without all the facts in

 

[Otis]

Look

I'm not against it.I just thought those type of posts were a potential TO.

Whether you post a direct link or a link to a link of what looks like a dead body.

If the link is against the rules, then so be it... I had no idea a link to a link was banned... Especially when the source of the tweet has been used countless times in this thread alone.

I'd be all for some sweet mosaics of dead murderers.

 

[SofaKings]

silver.....or lead

 

[dickey moe]

The San Bernardino PD is excellent.

That's why it was the meth capital of the US.

Whoa where has this guy been?

 

[Quez]

I understand why the kill count is so low now that we found out it could of only been 2 people & 1 was a woman.

 

[ffldrew]

terrorists hitting smaller towns, is the "smartest" thing for them to do, wouldnt it?

everyone thought it was a big city thing... if they start hitting even small towns, everyone will be in fear

I think Fox News has the fear part covered