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1986-87 IDP Top Ten (1 Viewer)

Rozelle

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I was cleaning out a closet last week and stumbled across standing sheets from my original IDP league. Since this is a bit of a slow time on the forum, I thought I’d post the Top 10 IDP’s from our 1986 and 87 seasons, just to give ya’ll something to pass the time … and stroll down memory lane. As Jean stated in his IDP 401, 3-4 defenses were very popular back then.

Our IDP scoring was:

Solo 2

Assist 1

Sack 6 … ½ sack 3 (Players who had a sack were not credited with solo back then)

INT 10

TD’s 30 or 40 can’t recall (we gave too much for defensive TD’s, this was adjusted some years later, but not enough).

1986

RANK PTS PLAYER POS TEAM

1 223 Lawrence Taylor ROLB N.Y. Giants

3-4 outside backer, I suppose he was considered the rush backer. Had 20.5 sacks in '86 and was NFL MVP

2 214 Ronnie Lott FS San Fransisco

Lott played CB at first and switched over to S in '85. Led league in INT's in '86, despite missing a couple of games.

2 214 Fred Marion FS New England

I believe, like Lott, early in his career Fred played CB. Great tackler … He was a very good player, who was known in the IDP world.

4 201 Dexter Manley RDE Washington

Manleys had 18.5 sacks and FR for a TD in '86. Prolly his finest season as a pro.

5 199 John Offerdahl MLB Miami

The rookie 2nd round pick out of Western Michigan was a tackling machine.

6 196 Karl Mechlinburg LILB Denver

Karl had 9.5 sacks in '86, amazing numbers for an ILB. He was just a solid all-around backer.

7 189 Wilber Marshall RLB Chicago

I remember Marshall being a big play type. He'd get you sacks, INT's and tackles. Seem like he was always around the ball.

8 186 Dave Duerson SS Chicago

Duerson had 7 sacks and 6 picks in '86. Hard hitting, good tacking safety who blitzed. One of the best IDP DB's.

9 185 Carl Banks LOLB N.Y. Giants

Great tackler and could get you sacks. Banks was overshadowed by Taylor, he was very good.

G-Men had some great LB's in those days.

10 184 Brian Hinkle ROLB Pittsburgh

Best I remember … Hinkle was soid, but not spectacular.

10 184 Deron Cherry FS Kansas City

I'm pretty sure Cherry played some SS. Was a very solid IDP DB.

1987

RANK PTS PLAYER POS TEAM

1 223 Carl Banks LOLB N.Y. Giants

Banks had a great year, 9 sacks in 12 games. The '87 season was strike shortened. Simple one of the best IDP's back then.

2 220 Reggie White LDE Philadelphia

Had this season not been strike shortened, Reggie would prolly hold the record for sacks in a season. He registered 21 in 12 games!

3 209 Fredd Young LILB Seattle

Wow! … Now that’s a name I haven't heard in a while! Another 3-4 ILB who could get to the QB … Big Hitter!

4 188 Vann McElroy FS L.A. Raiders

McElroy was not that good of an IDP. The only reason he made the Top 10 was, he had a defensive TD in '87

4 188 Billy Ray Smith LOLB San Diego

BR was one of my favorite players. Played some ILB earlier in his career. Tackles, sacks, INT's, he'd do it all.

6 178 Joey Browner SS Minnesota

Browner was an IDP stud, at 6-2 220, he was the new breed of safety (like Lott). Was a great, hard hitting tackler, and a

perennial Top 10 IDP in our league.

7 177 Karl Mechlinberg LILB Denver

Karl cracked our Top 10 again with 7 sacks and 3 INT's. He was just a solid all-around backer.

8 171 Dino Hackett RILB Kansas City

Dino was another one of those tacking machines. Well-known in the IDP world, but not outside of it.

9 169 Terry Kinard FS N.Y. Giants

Like McElroy … Kinard's defensive TD is what put him in the Top 10. Not a great IDP.

10 165 Andre Tippett LOLB New England

Tippet was not a tackle guy, but could rush the passer. An LT type backer.… had 12.5 sacks and a TD in '87.

 
some serious scoring for IDPs! what happened to LT in 87, surprised he wasn't top-5 again
Back then I had nothing to compare scoring to, in terms of IDP. I tried to make it easy to look at stats in a USA Today and be able to quickly convert it over to points, while trying to keep a balance with our comprehensive scoring offense. I realized very early I was giving too much for a defensive td, but had some resistance (from other owners) trying to change it. Most fantasy leagues back then were pretty basic, in terms of scoring.We only had a 10 week regular season in '87 due to the strike and only tracked the top 10 in the regular season. The NFL cancelled one week and then used replacement players for 3 other weeks. So our 14 game regular season dipped down to 10. Back then we didn't know any better than not to have our playoffs be in the final week.

LT had a great year, something like 10-11 sacks and 3 INT's, he must have either had some big games at the end of the year, which would have been our playoffs, or was just outside of the top ten. LT was not a big tackle guy, but he would have his games when he would go 8-2-2. He was definatley one of those guys you put in there week in and week out and suffer thru the 1-0-0 he would sometimes have.

Also in those days, as I mentioned in original post, you would not get credited with a solo when you had a sack.

 
Reminds me of playing Super Techmo Bowl for NES :nerd:

You guys must have had one of the earliest IDP leagues around!
There was a time I thought so ... but IDP had been around basically since the beginning.GOPPPL Founders of Fantasy Football

If you scroll down to page 4, you will see a drafting scorecard from what I assume is 1963. At the bottom of the scorecard you will see they drafted 4 IDP's.
Well, hell, I guess I can scrap that IDP Mythbusters article now convincing people that IDP is the only way to play fake football. If it was good enough for the founders... :thumbup: :shrug: :lmao:

 
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This was one of the more interesting takes in the article.

From Page 3 of GOPPL:

Among the original coaches were Mousalimas,

who teamed up with Stirling, and a surprisingly

knowledgeable kid named Ron Wolf, who was

brought into the mix by Ross after Al Davis hired

the one-time Colts' water boy to work in the

Raider front office.

Yes, that would be the same Ron Wolf who recently retired as general manager of the Green Bay Packers after a long

and distinguished career as an NFL front office whiz guy.

 


GOPPPL IDP drafted in 1963

DB/LB

Taylor, Rosie--San Fransisco

Williamson, Fred--Oakland

Grayson, Dave--Kansas City

Morrow, Tommy--Oakland

Wood, Willie--Green Bay

Woodson, Abe--San Fransisco

Lynch, ****--NY Giants

Zeman, Bob--Denver

Glick, Gary----San Diego

Banfield, Tony--Houston

Gonsoulin,Austin--Denver

O'Hanley, Ross--Boston

Suci, Bob--Houston

Krakoski, Joe--Oakland

Harris, ****--San Diego

Gibson, Claude--Oakland

DL

Hussman, Ed--Houston

Jelacic, Jon--Oakland

Faison, Earl--San Diego

Costa, Dave--Oakland

Ladd, Ernie--San Diego

Eisenhauer, Larry--Boston

Sestak, Tom--Buffalo

Allen, Dalva--Oakland

Dee, Bob--Boston

Branch, Mel--Kansas City

Petrick, Bob--San Diego

Mays, Jerry--Kansas City

McMurtry, Chuck--Oakland

Schmidt, Henry--San Diego

Bell, Bobby--Kansas City

Antwine, Houston--Boston

You can see their loyalty to the AFL, of the 32 drafted, only 4 from the NFL

8 Raiders drafted

I remember Bobby Bell being a LB, he was a rookie. (1963)

Only 7-8 of these guys ring a bell with me. This is defeanatley old school :confused:

 

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