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1st Grade Son Won't Stop Talking In School (1 Viewer)

ClownCausedChaos2

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Looking for any advice from parents (jokes from non-parents).  Long and short of it....our son won't stop talking/acting out in his class.

Over the past few weeks, we've gotten several emails from the teacher.  Mainly, his problem is that he doesn't think, he just reacts.  If she asks a question, he shouts out before she has a chance to call on another child.  Additionally, he wants to be the clown and make other kids laugh, so he's making noises and faces at inappropriate times.

She corrects him and he immediately stops for a short time, but then goes back to this behavior.  My wife had a great idea.  She told him to stop and think about his actions first.  He did that for a few days and the teacher remarked about how much he had improved.  The teacher even began reminding him of this technique.

He was holding steady with good behavior, but it has started up again the past few days.  Again, the teacher reminds him and he stops temporarily. 

He's been punished at school and he's been punished at home.  We've been in constant communication with the teacher and we're on the same page.  She seems great.

The gym teacher and the music teacher have also reported this behavior to her.  His teacher remarked that he's doing wonderful in every other aspect....his academics are great, he's polite, he gets along with the other kids. He just won't be quiet.  She remarked too that there is no concern, as he is not "off the chart".

How do we get it through his head to just stop and think/listen/calm down?  Are we missing something?  Has anyone been through this?  I'm an open-minded guy and willing to listen to anything.  Don't hold back your thoughts.

 
fighting a losing battle trying to stifle the kid's natural exuberance, imo

my 1st grader is the same. she's a house of fire. 

i've always felt it's wrong to tell kids, especially mine, to not be themselves. he may be talking too much in school but... why? that to me is more important than having a teacher/parent say "stop doing whatever you're doing, it's wrong".

my kid needs stimulation. she can't just be sitting there listening. it has to be interactive. she won't sit through a lecture.. but if that same lecture is delivered during a dance routine she's completely ####### rapt.

also, if she's nervous she gets more fidgety/chatty/acts out. she needed a few weeks to settle in to school last year... so far this year has been the same. she's gradually getting better each day (per her teacher). my end of this month she'll be settled and just a regular excitable 1st grader.

maybe the little shaver just needs a more interactive classroom. or tasks during down time. ask the teacher to see if there are chores he can help with that will make him feel useful or important. something that suits his sociable nature. maybe he can pass out pencils, or collect art projects. 

 
Persona non grata til he joins the human race. Simple as that - aint even a human animal hasnt responded to being cut from the herd.

 
I wouldn't overreact with a first-grader for sure, but I also doubt that getting him to think about it just by telling him will help.  He's too young to really implement that.  My daughter has had this issue for pretty much every year in school (currently in 7th grade).  I would say that it slightly and gradually improved each year.  We got a QEEG last year and saw what was likely causing her issues with inattention, impulse control and overreacting. 

One helpful thing for impulse control and calm can be  HRV breathing.  http://drsircus.com/cardiovascular/vagus-nerve-inflammation-heart-rate-variability/

stimulating the vagus nerve helps to balance the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system.

 
mr. furley said:
fighting a losing battle trying to stifle the kid's natural exuberance, imo

my 1st grader is the same. she's a house of fire. 

i've always felt it's wrong to tell kids, especially mine, to not be themselves. he may be talking too much in school but... why? that to me is more important than having a teacher/parent say "stop doing whatever you're doing, it's wrong".

my kid needs stimulation. she can't just be sitting there listening. it has to be interactive. she won't sit through a lecture.. but if that same lecture is delivered during a dance routine she's completely ####### rapt.

also, if she's nervous she gets more fidgety/chatty/acts out. she needed a few weeks to settle in to school last year... so far this year has been the same. she's gradually getting better each day (per her teacher). my end of this month she'll be settled and just a regular excitable 1st grader.

maybe the little shaver just needs a more interactive classroom. or tasks during down time. ask the teacher to see if there are chores he can help with that will make him feel useful or important. something that suits his sociable nature. maybe he can pass out pencils, or collect art projects. 
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Thanks.  This sounds exactly like him.

 
My daughter, now in 5th grade, has a girl like that in here class.  The girl is a little sweetheart, but just can ... not... stop... talking.  She gets in trouble for it at school, it drives her parents bonkers, everyone knows who this girl is.  But that is just who it is.  You're screwed GB, Sorry.

 
mr. furley said:
fighting a losing battle trying to stifle the kid's natural exuberance, imo

my 1st grader is the same. she's a house of fire. 

i've always felt it's wrong to tell kids, especially mine, to not be themselves. he may be talking too much in school but... why? that to me is more important than having a teacher/parent say "stop doing whatever you're doing, it's wrong".

my kid needs stimulation. she can't just be sitting there listening. it has to be interactive. she won't sit through a lecture.. but if that same lecture is delivered during a dance routine she's completely ####### rapt.

also, if she's nervous she gets more fidgety/chatty/acts out. she needed a few weeks to settle in to school last year... so far this year has been the same. she's gradually getting better each day (per her teacher). my end of this month she'll be settled and just a regular excitable 1st grader.

maybe the little shaver just needs a more interactive classroom. or tasks during down time. ask the teacher to see if there are chores he can help with that will make him feel useful or important. something that suits his sociable nature. maybe he can pass out pencils, or collect art projects. 
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I haven't tried this yet, but maybe consider down the road when studying is more important: https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/studytracks-study-notes-to-music/id1083841105?mt=8

 
Jaysus said:
My daughter, now in 5th grade, has a girl like that in here class.  The girl is a little sweetheart, but just can ... not... stop... talking.  She gets in trouble for it at school, it drives her parents bonkers, everyone knows who this girl is.  But that is just who it is.  You're screwed GB, Sorry.
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Ever since we moved to the West Shore....

 
ClownCausedChaos2 said:
Thanks.  This sounds exactly like him.
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tasks really helped her last year. the kindergarten teacher she had was a bit older and more disciplined. she had a plan ready for this type of kid. my daughter got to be her helper. that made a world of difference.

kid likes to be involved and feel useful so having tasks kept her focused and not wanting to get in too much trouble so as to not lose privileges.

gllllllllllllllll

 
Long Ball Larry said:
I wouldn't overreact with a first-grader for sure, but I also doubt that getting him to think about it just by telling him will help.  He's too young to really implement that.  My daughter has had this issue for pretty much every year in school (currently in 7th grade).  I would say that it slightly and gradually improved each year.  We got a QEEG last year and saw what was likely causing her issues with inattention, impulse control and overreacting. 

One helpful thing for impulse control and calm can be  HRV breathing.  http://drsircus.com/cardiovascular/vagus-nerve-inflammation-heart-rate-variability/

stimulating the vagus nerve helps to balance the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system.
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Thank you.  I'll take a look at that.

 
gianmarco said:
See your pediatrician. Might want to have screening for ADHD. 
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See, that's where my mind is sort of going.  The teacher and my wife seem to think at this point that he's just a little boy.  I hope they're right, but I feel like I may need to convince them that its worth ruling out ADHD.

 
ClownCausedChaos2 said:
Looking for any advice from parents (jokes from non-parents).  Long and short of it....our son won't stop talking/acting out in his class.

Over the past few weeks, we've gotten several emails from the teacher.  Mainly, his problem is that he doesn't think, he just reacts.  If she asks a question, he shouts out before she has a chance to call on another child.  Additionally, he wants to be the clown and make other kids laugh, so he's making noises and faces at inappropriate times.

She corrects him and he immediately stops for a short time, but then goes back to this behavior.  My wife had a great idea.  She told him to stop and think about his actions first.  He did that for a few days and the teacher remarked about how much he had improved.  The teacher even began reminding him of this technique.

He was holding steady with good behavior, but it has started up again the past few days.  Again, the teacher reminds him and he stops temporarily. 

He's been punished at school and he's been punished at home.  We've been in constant communication with the teacher and we're on the same page.  She seems great.

The gym teacher and the music teacher have also reported this behavior to her.  His teacher remarked that he's doing wonderful in every other aspect....his academics are great, he's polite, he gets along with the other kids. He just won't be quiet.  She remarked too that there is no concern, as he is not "off the chart".

How do we get it through his head to just stop and think/listen/calm down?  Are we missing something?  Has anyone been through this?  I'm an open-minded guy and willing to listen to anything.  Don't hold back your thoughts.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-Elr5K2Vuo

 
ClownCausedChaos2 said:
Looking for any advice from parents (jokes from non-parents).  Long and short of it....our son won't stop talking/acting out in his class.

Over the past few weeks, we've gotten several emails from the teacher.  Mainly, his problem is that he doesn't think, he just reacts.  If she asks a question, he shouts out before she has a chance to call on another child.  Additionally, he wants to be the clown and make other kids laugh, so he's making noises and faces at inappropriate times.
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I wonder where he could have gotten this trait from?

 
Seriously though - I wouldn't be too worried yet.  Lots of kids are hyper and talk a lot.  I think finding the correct thing to help modify his behavior is the best approach for now (punishment or reward).

 
ClownCausedChaos2 said:
See, that's where my mind is sort of going.  The teacher and my wife seem to think at this point that he's just a little boy.  I hope they're right, but I feel like I may need to convince them that its worth ruling out ADHD.
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Does his behavior affect his actual school work? If not, I'd hold off on going to the Dr for ADHD diagnosis.

You have had some success getting your son to stop and think about his actions. Try this some more, and maybe find a reward for his positive behavior. Disciplining children should include reward and punishment.

 
gianmarco said:
See your pediatrician. Might want to have screening for ADHD. 
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So I was exactly like your son. Great student, nice kid, never shut up in class. I got tested for a week for ADHD. Conclusion - I was too bored. I was advanced enough to be bored with class work and would finish whatever task was given so quickly I'd start talking to the other kids around me. 

After a negative diagnosis for ADD/ADHD the recommend from the psychologist was to give me more/more challenging work during class. 

 
ClownCausedChaos2 said:
Looking for any advice from parents (jokes from non-parents).  Long and short of it....our son won't stop talking/acting out in his class.

Over the past few weeks, we've gotten several emails from the teacher.  Mainly, his problem is that he doesn't think, he just reacts.  If she asks a question, he shouts out before she has a chance to call on another child.  Additionally, he wants to be the clown and make other kids laugh, so he's making noises and faces at inappropriate times.

She corrects him and he immediately stops for a short time, but then goes back to this behavior.  My wife had a great idea.  She told him to stop and think about his actions first.  He did that for a few days and the teacher remarked about how much he had improved.  The teacher even began reminding him of this technique.

He was holding steady with good behavior, but it has started up again the past few days.  Again, the teacher reminds him and he stops temporarily. 

He's been punished at school and he's been punished at home.  We've been in constant communication with the teacher and we're on the same page.  She seems great.

The gym teacher and the music teacher have also reported this behavior to her.  His teacher remarked that he's doing wonderful in every other aspect....his academics are great, he's polite, he gets along with the other kids. He just won't be quiet.  She remarked too that there is no concern, as he is not "off the chart".

How do we get it through his head to just stop and think/listen/calm down?  Are we missing something?  Has anyone been through this?  I'm an open-minded guy and willing to listen to anything.  Don't hold back your thoughts.
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you talking about my kid?

We constantly fight this battle.  Glad that the teacher is working with you and sees the positives.  Also agree with Furley about stifling the kids personality.  Just a struggle at this age to get them to conform.  We just try to use rewards such as Ipad time and playing with the neighbor boy.

 
Lutherman2112 said:
ClownCausedChaos2 said:
See, that's where my mind is sort of going.  The teacher and my wife seem to think at this point that he's just a little boy.  I hope they're right, but I feel like I may need to convince them that its worth ruling out ADHD.
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Does his behavior affect his actual school work? If not, I'd hold off on going to the Dr for ADHD diagnosis.

You have had some success getting your son to stop and think about his actions. Try this some more, and maybe find a reward for his positive behavior. Disciplining children should include reward and punishment.
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I'm an advocate of getting early intervention for any possible thing going on with your kid... earlier the better. people tend to have strange stigmas concerning their kid not being "perfect" or that if they need help or treatment of any kind they've somehow failed. for me, you've failed if you ignore things too long.

that said- I tend to agree with lutherman here. if behavioral modification has had success- especially that young- it implies to my non-medically trained mind that it's just a rambunctious kid rather than something physiological that needs more aggressive therapies. 

but that said again... what's the harm talking to your doctor? 

eta: I see you said your teacher said it's not over the top... she's a great first resource for figuring this out, and things sound like no alarm bells. also sounds like you should just beat this nonsense out of him.

 
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mr. furley said:
tasks really helped her last year. the kindergarten teacher she had was a bit older and more disciplined. she had a plan ready for this type of kid. my daughter got to be her helper. that made a world of difference.

kid likes to be involved and feel useful so having tasks kept her focused and not wanting to get in too much trouble so as to not lose privileges.

gllllllllllllllll
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This helps with my kid as well.  Keep them busy, keep them engages.

 
mr roboto said:
So I was exactly like your son. Great student, nice kid, never shut up in class. I got tested for a week for ADHD. Conclusion - I was too bored. I was advanced enough to be bored with class work and would finish whatever task was given so quickly I'd start talking to the other kids around me. 

After a negative diagnosis for ADD/ADHD the recommend from the psychologist was to give me more/more challenging work during class. 
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This was my son too. Saw the pediatrician and told the same thing. He started gifted, things improved for a bit, then returned. Then in 5th grade, his grades started with an issue and he was fully tested and was clearly ADHD at that point.

Since then, on meds, he's a completely different kid on them and has no issues with behavior whatsoever.

Bottomline, it could be any number of things. Could be bored/not challenged. Could be simple behavior that needs some modification. Could be ADHD that he could benefit from treatment. I'd start with your pediatrician and go from there.

 
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El Floppo said:
I'm an advocate of getting early intervention for any possible thing going on with your kid... earlier the better. people tend to have strange stigmas concerning their kid not being "perfect" or that if they need help or treatment of any kind they've somehow failed. for me, you've failed if you ignore things too long.

that said- I tend to agree with lutherman here. if behavioral modification has had success- especially that young- it implies to my non-medically trained mind that it's just a rambunctious kid rather than something physiological that needs more aggressive therapies. 

but that said again... what's the harm talking to your doctor? 

eta: I see you said your teacher said it's not over the top... she's a great first resource for figuring this out, and things sound like no alarm bells. also sounds like you should just beat this nonsense out of him.




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Excellent point, as I wasn't diagnosed ADHD until the age of 21.

 
The Z Machine said:
Positive reinforcement for good behavior. Small toys and trinkets and the like.
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this is a better course with kids, i think. he's doing great in terms of performance in class so there is no need to "punish" him like grounding, taking away toys, no screen time, etc. offer a reward for good classroom behavior. start with it as a small daily reward for a good report from the teacher. extend the reward and positive reinforcement for going consecutive days or even a week.

 
ClownCausedChaos2 said:
Looking for any advice from parents (jokes from non-parents).  Long and short of it....our son won't stop talking/acting out in his class.

Over the past few weeks, we've gotten several emails from the teacher.  Mainly, his problem is that he doesn't think, he just reacts.  If she asks a question, he shouts out before she has a chance to call on another child.  Additionally, he wants to be the clown and make other kids laugh, so he's making noises and faces at inappropriate times.

She corrects him and he immediately stops for a short time, but then goes back to this behavior.  My wife had a great idea.  She told him to stop and think about his actions first.  He did that for a few days and the teacher remarked about how much he had improved.  The teacher even began reminding him of this technique.

He was holding steady with good behavior, but it has started up again the past few days.  Again, the teacher reminds him and he stops temporarily. 

He's been punished at school and he's been punished at home.  We've been in constant communication with the teacher and we're on the same page.  She seems great.

The gym teacher and the music teacher have also reported this behavior to her.  His teacher remarked that he's doing wonderful in every other aspect....his academics are great, he's polite, he gets along with the other kids. He just won't be quiet.  She remarked too that there is no concern, as he is not "off the chart".

How do we get it through his head to just stop and think/listen/calm down?  Are we missing something?  Has anyone been through this?  I'm an open-minded guy and willing to listen to anything.  Don't hold back your thoughts.
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How are his grades?

 
Also, it's often hard especially for little boys to sit inside in class and 'behave'. We act like the actual format of 'school' is somehow neutral. Some kids are great at sitting, listening, following directions etc. They just fit the school day format better. 

 
Lutherman2112 said:
Does his behavior affect his actual school work? If not, I'd hold off on going to the Dr for ADHD diagnosis.

You have had some success getting your son to stop and think about his actions. Try this some more, and maybe find a reward for his positive behavior. Disciplining children should include reward and punishment.
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All of his academics are fine.  He's getting along with friends and they say he's very nice.  He just doesn't wait his turn to speak.

 
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