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2008 $35,000 Subscriber Contest (3 Viewers)

Looking for an edumacation here if someone could provide some insight to building a good best ball team. (This is my first year in this format).
The big difference in this best ball format is the cutoffs, when teams are eliminated week-to-week. The first 5 or 6 weeks, the cut off is surprisingly low. Any decent team advances. I think the worst thing you want to think in this game is, "I am a little shaky week 8 (or 9 or 10), but if I make it past that week, I am golden." Better to have a weak bye week team early.
 
The suspensions apparently really cut down on the number of people taking [steve Smith and Brandon Marshall]. :goodposting:
I'm not sure about that. Marshall is the second-most-taken WR and Smith is the 8th. I think the number of people scared off by the suspensions was balanced (and then some) by the number who were thinking along the same lines as you.
Doug, thanks for the statistics. Very interesting stuff as always. I have a quick question for you: how many teams have *both* TE Jason Witten (6.7%) *and* TE Tony Gonzalez (2.8%)?? My 2008 strategy is weird, locking up $54 on the TE.Last year I barely missed the money in week 17, and did it with just 1 TE rostered (Scaife). This year, I just fell in love with the strategy of two elite TEs, with the thought of getting great positional advantage and probably getting my flex from the TE as well, with the 1.5 PPR. If they both get 80+ catches, I might make some noise again this season.
 
I didn't go with AD & Taylor because that would be a big part of my lineup with the same bye. You might skate by with the week 4 or 5 bye, but you are pressing it past that. A better 1-2 combo is Portis/Betts for the price, but that's 2 roster spots for 1 position.
If AP/CT is risky because of their week 8 bye, how is Portis/Betts a better combo with a week 10 bye?
The only reasone is because of the much cheaper price tag. It will leave you with more $ to field a solid RB corp come week 10. It is still a risky move that I didn't take.
 
Looking for an edumacation here if someone could provide some insight to building a good best ball team. (This is my first year in this format).
The big difference in this best ball format is the cutoffs, when teams are eliminated week-to-week. The first 5 or 6 weeks, the cut off is surprisingly low. Any decent team advances. I think the worst thing you want to think in this game is, "I am a little shaky week 8 (or 9 or 10), but if I make it past that week, I am golden." Better to have a weak bye week team early.
:X Although that doesn't apply to the best-ball format in general, just this particular "survivor" type contest. Here it is very important to watch the byes, especially the ones later in the season. Unlike a regular fantasy league, you can't afford to have one "bad" week - that's all it takes to get knocked out. (As a non-Warner owner, this is why I'm rooting hard for Leinart to win his job back... There could be a lot of Brees/Warner and Romo/Warner teams falling off the map if Warner isn't still the starter by week 9. :shrug: )
 
Looking for an edumacation here if someone could provide some insight to building a good best ball team. (This is my first year in this format).
The big difference in this best ball format is the cutoffs, when teams are eliminated week-to-week. The first 5 or 6 weeks, the cut off is surprisingly low. Any decent team advances. I think the worst thing you want to think in this game is, "I am a little shaky week 8 (or 9 or 10), but if I make it past that week, I am golden." Better to have a weak bye week team early.
Thanks Massraider. I started thinking along those lines getting closer to the deadline. Early on, I had a bunch of players with a week 8 and 10 bye. Would have been dog meat in those weeks. That is also why I may have incorrectly removed Witten from my lineup.
 
The suspensions apparently really cut down on the number of people taking [steve Smith and Brandon Marshall]. :thumbdown:
I'm not sure about that. Marshall is the second-most-taken WR and Smith is the 8th. I think the number of people scared off by the suspensions was balanced (and then some) by the number who were thinking along the same lines as you.
Doug, thanks for the statistics. Very interesting stuff as always. I have a quick question for you: how many teams have *both* TE Jason Witten (6.7%) *and* TE Tony Gonzalez (2.8%)?? My 2008 strategy is weird, locking up $54 on the TE.Last year I barely missed the money in week 17, and did it with just 1 TE rostered (Scaife). This year, I just fell in love with the strategy of two elite TEs, with the thought of getting great positional advantage and probably getting my flex from the TE as well, with the 1.5 PPR. If they both get 80+ catches, I might make some noise again this season.
The only problem is that Gonzo costs the same amount as Smith, Cotchery and Marshall (and more than Ward, Mason and Santana Moss). If you count on Witten being the higher producer most weeks, wouldn't you be better off getting one of those WR's for the same money? On a weekly basis, they probably outscore Gonzo. I think you're better off with Smith (or one of the others) and Fasano or Keller as a backup TE than Gonzo and a $2 WR.
 
91 entries include both Peterson and Chester.

If Peterson ownership and Taylor ownership were independent, you'd expect only 54. So Peterson owners did have an overall general tendency to handcuff.

 
apalmer said:
The only problem is that Gonzo costs the same amount as Smith, Cotchery and Marshall (and more than Ward, Mason and Santana Moss). If you count on Witten being the higher producer most weeks, wouldn't you be better off getting one of those WR's for the same money? On a weekly basis, they probably outscore Gonzo. I think you're better off with Smith (or one of the others) and Fasano or Keller as a backup TE than Gonzo and a $2 WR.
Good point. I actually have Cotchery as a WR2 (Fitzgerald, then a bunch of low $ guys -- Walter, Mush, Randel El, Ike Hillard, Breaston).The idea though is that every week I'll get 15-20 points out of the TE spot, if both have good weeks then very likely one ends up a flex. Both guys seem very reliable and unlikely to bust, whereas a guy like Heap/Scheffler might end up being a waste of ~$15. My main RB is Westy (7.3%), along w/ the other popular 3 so i'm clearly very weak at RB. We'll see how it goes!
 
Donovan McNabb-$16

Jeff Garcia-$8

Kurt Warner-$5

Marshawn Lynch-$40

Thomas Jones-$21

DeAngelo Williams-$15

Ricky Williams-$8

Ray Rice-$4

T.J. Duckett;-$1

Larry Fitzgerald-$35

Nate Burleson-$18

Donald Driver-$16

Santana Moss-$14

Derrick Mason-$12

Kevin Walter-$6

Desean Jackson-$4

Zach Miller-$15

Anthony Fasano-$3

Robbie Gould-$2

Mike Nugent-$1

Philadelphia-$3

Carolina-$3

 
Feeling pretty good with my smith/marshall squad this week with SMoss and Randal El having decent games.

QB - Tony Romo - 23

QB - Kurt Warner - 5

RB - LaDainian Tomlinson - 60

RB - Brian Westbrook - 54

RB - Ricky Williams - 8

RB - Steve Slaton - 1

WR - Brandon Marshall - 23

WR - Steve Smith - 23

WR - Santana Moss - 14

WR - Kevin Walter - 6

WR - Antwaan Randle El - 4

WR - Derek Hagan - 4

WR - Antonio Bryant - 2

WR - Steve Breaston - 1

TE - Anthony Fasano - 3

TE - Dustin Keller - 2

TE - Michael Gaines - 1

PK - Adam Vinatieri - 5

PK - Robbie Gould - 2

PK - Matt Prater - 1

TD - New England Patriots - 5

TD - Buffalo Bills - 3

 
Heres my team

QB - Tony Romo - 23

QB - Jon Kitna - 14

RB - Darren McFadden - 29

RB - Michael Turner - 28

RB - Thomas Jones - 21

RB - Ricky Williams - 8

RB - Ray Rice - 4

RB - Steve Slaton - 1

WR - Santonio Holmes - 24

WR - Brandon Marshall - 23

WR - Jerricho Cotchery - 23

WR - Ted Ginn - 13

WR - Kevin Walter - 6

WR - Antonio Bryant - 2

WR - Steve Breaston - 1

TE - Zach Miller - 15

TE - Dustin Keller - 2

PK - Lawrence Tynes - 2

PK - John Kasay - 2

TD - Pittsburgh Steelers - 5

TD - Carolina Panthers - 3

TD - Miami Dolphins - 1

I do have some week 5 Bye issues that I didn't catch.

I've read lots of theories about how to do this contest,but my opinion is it really invovles to much luck. My 1st year all 3 of my qb's were injured by wk 3 or 4. I still survived 3 wks with no qb score.

 
benbadman said:
The suspensions apparently really cut down on the number of people taking [steve Smith and Brandon Marshall]. :confused:
I'm not sure about that. Marshall is the second-most-taken WR and Smith is the 8th. I think the number of people scared off by the suspensions was balanced (and then some) by the number who were thinking along the same lines as you.
Doug, thanks for the statistics. Very interesting stuff as always. I have a quick question for you: how many teams have *both* TE Jason Witten (6.7%) *and* TE Tony Gonzalez (2.8%)?? My 2008 strategy is weird, locking up $54 on the TE.Last year I barely missed the money in week 17, and did it with just 1 TE rostered (Scaife). This year, I just fell in love with the strategy of two elite TEs, with the thought of getting great positional advantage and probably getting my flex from the TE as well, with the 1.5 PPR. If they both get 80+ catches, I might make some noise again this season.
I too used the same strategy. I am another owner who has both Witten and Gonzalez. The last 2 years I got knocked out in the final cutdown week. I hope this year I can make it to the money. Last year I went with 4 starting RB (S.Jackson,Cadillac W.,Marion Barber and Adrian Peterson) and TE Gates. that strategy worked fine, but the money I spent on S. Jackson backfired, I anticipated S. Jackson as being the guy that would seperate me from the pack if I made it to the finals. It didnt happen. This year I am hoping that the TE's carry my team. Only thing that worries me is Witten and Gonzo have the same bye week. Good luck.
 
benbadman said:
The suspensions apparently really cut down on the number of people taking [steve Smith and Brandon Marshall]. :unsure:
I'm not sure about that. Marshall is the second-most-taken WR and Smith is the 8th. I think the number of people scared off by the suspensions was balanced (and then some) by the number who were thinking along the same lines as you.
Doug, thanks for the statistics. Very interesting stuff as always. I have a quick question for you: how many teams have *both* TE Jason Witten (6.7%) *and* TE Tony Gonzalez (2.8%)?? My 2008 strategy is weird, locking up $54 on the TE.Last year I barely missed the money in week 17, and did it with just 1 TE rostered (Scaife). This year, I just fell in love with the strategy of two elite TEs, with the thought of getting great positional advantage and probably getting my flex from the TE as well, with the 1.5 PPR. If they both get 80+ catches, I might make some noise again this season.
I too used the same strategy. I am another owner who has both Witten and Gonzalez. The last 2 years I got knocked out in the final cutdown week. I hope this year I can make it to the money. Last year I went with 4 starting RB (S.Jackson,Cadillac W.,Marion Barber and Adrian Peterson) and TE Gates. that strategy worked fine, but the money I spent on S. Jackson backfired, I anticipated S. Jackson as being the guy that would seperate me from the pack if I made it to the finals. It didnt happen. This year I am hoping that the TE's carry my team. Only thing that worries me is Witten and Gonzo have the same bye week. Good luck.
Then I guess you have no worries. Witten = bye week 10; Gonzo = bye week 6.
 
Set this a while back and not feeling very confident......time will tell.....

QB - Drew Brees - 23

QB - Chad Pennington - 9

QB - Kurt Warner - 5

RB - Darren McFadden - 29

RB - Michael Turner - 28

RB - Jonathan Stewart - 21

RB - Chris Johnson - 14

RB - Ricky Williams - 8

RB - Ray Rice - 4

RB - Steve Slaton - 1

WR - Hines Ward - 20

WR - Nate Burleson - 18

WR - Patrick Crayton - 13

WR - Derrick Mason - 12

WR - Kevin Walter - 6

WR - Mike Furrey - 3

WR - Devery Henderson - 2

TE - Chris Cooley - 19

TE - Chris Baker - 1

PK - Mason Crosby - 3

TD - Minnesota Vikings - 8

TD - Buffalo Bills - 3

 
As predicted, Warner, Slaton, Ray Rice, and Ricky Williams are the most owned players, but none of them are on as many rosters (percentage-wise) as Wes Welker (67%) was last year. I can't seem to put my hands on the numbers, but I recall Frank Gore and Ben Watson being on an absurd percentage of rosters in 06. Like 80%.
A correction is in order. I was looking at some ownership percentages of live teams later in the year when I saw things like Welker at 67%.As it turns out, Warner, Slaton, Rice, and Ricky are more :confused: than anyone was last year. Sorry about the earlier erroneous statement.

Here is last year's ownership report. And this year's.

 
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Donovan McNabb-$16Jeff Garcia-$8Kurt Warner-$5Marshawn Lynch-$40Thomas Jones-$21DeAngelo Williams-$15Ricky Williams-$8Ray Rice-$4T.J. Duckett;-$1Larry Fitzgerald-$35Nate Burleson-$18Donald Driver-$16Santana Moss-$14Derrick Mason-$12Kevin Walter-$6Desean Jackson-$4Zach Miller-$15Anthony Fasano-$3Robbie Gould-$2Mike Nugent-$1Philadelphia-$3Carolina-$3
I think you'll survive the week 1 cut.
 
Donovan McNabb-$16Jeff Garcia-$8Kurt Warner-$5Marshawn Lynch-$40Thomas Jones-$21DeAngelo Williams-$15Ricky Williams-$8Ray Rice-$4T.J. Duckett;-$1Larry Fitzgerald-$35Nate Burleson-$18Donald Driver-$16Santana Moss-$14Derrick Mason-$12Kevin Walter-$6Desean Jackson-$4Zach Miller-$15Anthony Fasano-$3Robbie Gould-$2Mike Nugent-$1Philadelphia-$3Carolina-$3
I think you'll survive the week 1 cut.
:football:
 
Haven't checked the scoring application for accuracy (it was shaky at first last year), but it is reporting me after the early games at 131ish. Still have my QB score to go, as well as significant players to bump out some low scores...

Hoping that the Brady score this week kills some otherwise good teams, but with only 600 or so teams (~4.7%) I suspect we are only killing off the weak and malformed at this point.

 
Haven't checked the scoring application for accuracy (it was shaky at first last year), but it is reporting me after the early games at 131ish. Still have my QB score to go, as well as significant players to bump out some low scores...Hoping that the Brady score this week kills some otherwise good teams, but with only 600 or so teams (~4.7%) I suspect we are only killing off the weak and malformed at this point.
I hoping someone had Brady/Marshall/smith/Cooley
 
Haven't checked the scoring application for accuracy (it was shaky at first last year), but it is reporting me after the early games at 131ish. Still have my QB score to go, as well as significant players to bump out some low scores...Hoping that the Brady score this week kills some otherwise good teams, but with only 600 or so teams (~4.7%) I suspect we are only killing off the weak and malformed at this point.
Can someone post the link of the software people are referring to to check out stats for this contest?I thought I remember reading somebody post they had something going for updates.Thanks in advance!
 
Haven't checked the scoring application for accuracy (it was shaky at first last year), but it is reporting me after the early games at 131ish. Still have my QB score to go, as well as significant players to bump out some low scores...Hoping that the Brady score this week kills some otherwise good teams, but with only 600 or so teams (~4.7%) I suspect we are only killing off the weak and malformed at this point.
what scoring application? would love to see real time.
 
http://thefantasystar.com/

Quiz Guy set it up. Looks like all the scoring is good, except for kickers, which is low right now.
Um, while I appreciate the shout out CT, it was not my work. I cannot take credit for that awesome utility.It's Organized Chaos who deserves all the props :tfp:

-QG
:cry: big thankis to you & OC
Um, thanks even though I have no involvement in the enterprise whatsoever ;) -QG

 
BTW, the scoring/flex issues have all been fixed and should be reflected on your teams..
Nicely done OC, very cool.145 despite missing three of my top four WRs. ADP, Olsen and DJax still to play. Kind of liking my team after Week One anyhow.
 
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Based on OC's calculations I'm at:

110.80

+ Berrian minus 8.40

+ Prater minus 5.00

I'm hoping this will spare me the Turk in a week with such a low number of cuts :confused:

-QG

 
McNabb+MBIII ought to get me through this week anyway....waiting for an email to set up that scoring application...

 
149.4 with Culter -14.4, Grant -8.4, Crosby -9 and Packers DST -15 remaining.

My backup WRs did well covering for Marshall and Smith.

 
Here's my team.

QB - Drew Brees - 23

QB - Jay Cutler - 14

QB - Kurt Warner - 5

RB - Clinton Portis - 33

RB - Michael Turner - 28

RB - DeAngelo Williams - 15

RB - Ray Rice - 4

RB - Lorenzo Booker - 2

WR - Santonio Holmes - 24

WR - Brandon Marshall - 23

WR - Sidney Rice - 11

WR - Jabar Gaffney - 7

WR - James Hardy - 4

WR - DeSean Jackson - 4

TE - Zach Miller - 15

TE - Alge Crumpler - 11

PK - Adam Vinatieri - 5

PK - Stephen Gostkowski - 5

PK - Nick Folk - 5

PK - Neil Rackers - 3

TD - Jacksonville Jaguars - 5

TD - Buffalo Bills - 3

Total value: 249

 
168.5+cutler(-21.0)

Didn't exactly need a big week this week, but I like the score nonetheless.

g/l to the 11999 others moving to week 2!

 
Maybe I missed it but did they announce how many actually signed up this year? I know last year everyone made it to week 2. I'm hoping I can skate by with the 150 I have now.

 
145.70

I'm hoping Minny D does better than the 1 point Dallas D gave me.

 
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