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2010 (In Season) Dynasty Trades (1 Viewer)

THE FANTASY KING said:
I am sorry I am not using the thread as you hoped. Unfortunately, I disagree and think that discussing trades is very valuable.
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I do too, but this type of discussion should probably be taken to the dynasty discussion thread (called "dynasty rankings"). It turned into more than straight trade / did-I-pay-too-much talk.
 
THE FANTASY KING said:
I am sorry I am not using the thread as you hoped. Unfortunately, I disagree and think that discussing trades is very valuable.

As for the HOF talk, I do not find that particularly relevant. We are all aware of Fitzgerald's ability, but obviously that ability is not enough to overcome his situation, which is unlikely to change soon as it is not easy in the NFL to easily reboot your QB situation. Foster is not just helped by his situation, he is perfect for his situation. If you're okay giving up stud RB production over the short-term to sit on a guy for 1-2 years because he is going to be in Canton, that is fine, but I think you are hurting your chances at winning a lot of fantasy games.

Regards,

THE FANTASY KING
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I notice that you're new to the board, and I certainly don't want to seem unwelcoming, because there are few things more exciting than when we get a new, active dynasty poster with plenty of opinions to share and plenty of conviction in those opinions. New viewpoints present an opportunity for us to learn from someone else's experience and look at things from a different perspective, and I would hate to think that I was discouraging you from contributing. I was mostly just trying (rather clumsily) to say that this thread is a spinoff of this thread, which has for the most part been used by dynasty leaguers to get a feel for up-to-the-minute market values on volatile players. It's more dedicated to factual reportings of what the market is set at rather than opinions on whether the market is wrong and why. For more in-depth discussion of dynasty strategy, value, and theory, I'd recommend checking out the Dynasty Rankings Superthread. Please don't let the size of the thread intimidate you- just jump to the last page or two to get up to speed on the most recent discussion and hop right on in. We've got a very active community of dynasty owners in that thread talking about every conceivable aspect of dynasty football, and we're always glad to get new participants. If this thread is more of a "what" thread, then that thread is certainly the "why" thread.Anyway, welcome again to FBGs and I hope to see you make your way over to the Dynasty Superthread.

 
I just put this in the LT vs HIllis thread, but i'll repeat it here. In my keeper where we keep 6, I made an offer of LT+FOrte for Rice. The other guy is in first place, has a bunch of great WRs and a very good TE and QB. However, his RBs are pathetic. This is a PPR league. He has Rice, Barber and Lynch. I have Forte, LT, Best, torain and Blount.

What do you guys think of this trade? Am i giving up too much? Is this a smart long term deal?

 
This just went down in my main dynasty league (.5 PPR, all TDs six points, 2RB/3WR/FLEX)

Team A Gave: Peyton Manning

Team B: Gave: Tony Romo and Miles Austin

I threw up in my mouth a little.

 
Just a few trades that have gone down in my league this year

Team A gave: Shaun Hill

Team B gave: Tim Tebow (team B is new this year, in need of a short term QB, and very raw)

Team A gave: Marshawn Lynch (week before he got traded) Donald Brown, 2011 1st and 2nd round picks

Team B gave: Beanie Wells, Nate Washington

Team A gave: Arian Foster

Team B gave: Jamaal Charles, 2 2011 1st round picks, 2012 2nd.

Team A gave: Matt Cassel

Team B gave: LaGarrette Blount

 
Benson, Cedric RB CIN

Scott, Bernard RB CIN - Traded from Interstellar Voodoo

Jones, Felix RB DAL

Lynch, Marshawn RB SEA

Washington, Leon RB SEA - Traded from The Five Originals

 
12 team non PPR

Got Steven Jackson and Percy Harvin

Gave DeSean Jackson and Ryan Torain

I liked that one.

Same league last week got Sidney Rice for Ryan Grant.

Wasn't so sure about that one.

 
THE FANTASY KING said:
corpcow said:
I gave my 2011 2nd, my 2012 2nd, my 2013 2nd and Malcom FloydI got LynchBackground: 16 team dynasty IDP with salary/contract caps. We start 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 RB/WR/TE flex and 2 WR/TE flex. (So most teams try to start 2 RB/3 WR, I'm starting 2 RB and sometimes 1 WR/2 TE).It's worth noting in the context of this trade that I have a very strong team and built for a championship run, and scoring/value is fairly heavily skewed towards RB/WR. The picks should be pretty late as I've got a good and fairly young team. In my case, I have always liked Lynch, but was also worried about my RB depth which has carried me so far. (And I can't pry Ringer away from that owner). QB: Rodgers, Ryan with Kafka on my taxi squadRB: CJ3, Hillis, Wells, D.Brown, B.Scott and now LynchWR/TE: Finley, Keller, Maclin, Driver, Santonio, Legedu, Benn, Sidney Rice, Jared Cook, Chambers with Aaron Hernandez on my taxi squadDL: Allen, Tuck, AvrilLB: Timmons, Lofton, Harrison, Levy, GoffDB: Yeremiah Bell, Finnegan
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That is a lot to pay for a RB that will not start for you the vast majority of the time, but I am not someone who is very high on Marshawn Lynch. With that team I would much rather devote my resources at acquiring a standout wide receiver.As a side note, I think it is safe to release Jared Cook or Chris Chambers and get Aaron Hernandez on your active roster. No need to do it this week, obviously, so I am sure it is on your To Do List.
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Thanks, but I was just sharing value, not asking for advice :lmao:The only reason I put in the comments is because I *did* overpay, I think, relative to what he's probably worth in most leagues. As I said, this league is heavily, heavily slanted towards QBs and RBs to a lesser extent. QBs score 6pts per passing TD and usually 18 of the top 30 are QB. The rest are mostly RB, and then one or two WRs at the tail end, maybe. As such, QBs and RBs are also held as a premium in trades as well.(And on your other point - yes, but it's also a contract league with penalties, etc - so there's more than just the roster spot in play)
 
DansRams said:
Fosterfor B MarshallCurrious to hear feedback (good an bad)
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I understand people continue to doubt Foster's ability and talent, but sooner or later the results need to be counted. Foster should have been the best rusher in Tenessee Volunteers history. Now in his first chance at the starting gig in the NFL, again, he is top of the line. Both in college and now in the pros, this kid has delivered over and over. Has it been that Foster is just that damn lucky, or is there actually some incredible talent there? I personally give far more weight to on field production than i do to "experts" and their judge of talent. Remember Mr. Foster was not even DRAFTED! Yet we have continual busts getting picked first overall. Do some of these "expert talent scouts" wish they could have gone back and actually drafted this guy? Of course they do. And behind Foster, on the practice squad, you have (in my opinion) an even bigger talent who would have made some splash this year if he didn't have a freak injury, Jeremiah Johnson. I remember this kid was better than his friend in the backfield, Jonathan Stewart, when the 2 were at Oregon. But i digress.Basically, I think that we have to trust what we see on the field with Foster. He is a very valuable piece in dynasty. I think you could have gotten more than B Marshall.
 
plyka said:
DansRams said:
Fosterfor B MarshallCurrious to hear feedback (good an bad)
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I understand people continue to doubt Foster's ability and talent, but sooner or later the results need to be counted. Foster should have been the best rusher in Tenessee Volunteers history. Now in his first chance at the starting gig in the NFL, again, he is top of the line. Both in college and now in the pros, this kid has delivered over and over. Has it been that Foster is just that damn lucky, or is there actually some incredible talent there? I personally give far more weight to on field production than i do to "experts" and their judge of talent. Remember Mr. Foster was not even DRAFTED! Yet we have continual busts getting picked first overall. Do some of these "expert talent scouts" wish they could have gone back and actually drafted this guy? Of course they do. And behind Foster, on the practice squad, you have (in my opinion) an even bigger talent who would have made some splash this year if he didn't have a freak injury, Jeremiah Johnson. I remember this kid was better than his friend in the backfield, Jonathan Stewart, when the 2 were at Oregon. But i digress.Basically, I think that we have to trust what we see on the field with Foster. He is a very valuable piece in dynasty. I think you could have gotten more than B Marshall.
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:blackdot: Foster getting undersold on some of these deals. This and the Fitz one specifically.
 
Cassius said:
plyka said:
DansRams said:
Fosterfor B MarshallCurrious to hear feedback (good an bad)
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I understand people continue to doubt Foster's ability and talent, but sooner or later the results need to be counted. Foster should have been the best rusher in Tenessee Volunteers history. Now in his first chance at the starting gig in the NFL, again, he is top of the line. Both in college and now in the pros, this kid has delivered over and over. Has it been that Foster is just that damn lucky, or is there actually some incredible talent there? I personally give far more weight to on field production than i do to "experts" and their judge of talent. Remember Mr. Foster was not even DRAFTED! Yet we have continual busts getting picked first overall. Do some of these "expert talent scouts" wish they could have gone back and actually drafted this guy? Of course they do. And behind Foster, on the practice squad, you have (in my opinion) an even bigger talent who would have made some splash this year if he didn't have a freak injury, Jeremiah Johnson. I remember this kid was better than his friend in the backfield, Jonathan Stewart, when the 2 were at Oregon. But i digress.Basically, I think that we have to trust what we see on the field with Foster. He is a very valuable piece in dynasty. I think you could have gotten more than B Marshall.
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:lol: Foster getting undersold on some of these deals. This and the Fitz one specifically.
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I am high on Foster's value, but you can't deny the questions that come with him. In a Dynasty PPR league Marshall is more of a sure thing AND will be a top player longer than Foster. I took the Foster train from UDFA little known in the offseason where I was getting 2nd round pick offers to now cashing him in in on a consistent top 5 wr. I'll take it
 
Another trade in our 12t dyanasty ppr league

P Thomas for DJax

The team trading DJax adds P Thomas to a R. Bush and Forte backfield and is left with Britt, Gafney, Moore, Driver, Shiply, and D. Butler at WR. Start 2 RB and 3 WR (Cutler and Henne at QB).

I own his 2011 1st pick :excited:

 
MJD

for

Fitz, A Hernandez

Straight up, PPR, TE Manditory

Team trading away MJD is not good and needed depth everywhere.

 
lynx4ben said:
MJDfor Fitz, A HernandezStraight up, PPR, TE ManditoryTeam trading away MJD is not good and needed depth everywhere.
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very fair deal IMO.Fitz is a top 3 dynasty WR, and i think #1 even with his short-term issues. Plus getting Hernandez who looks like a top notch dynasty TE makes this a deal i can't really pick a winner on.
 
DansRams said:
Cassius said:
plyka said:
DansRams said:
Fosterfor B MarshallCurrious to hear feedback (good an bad)
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I understand people continue to doubt Foster's ability and talent, but sooner or later the results need to be counted. Foster should have been the best rusher in Tenessee Volunteers history. Now in his first chance at the starting gig in the NFL, again, he is top of the line. Both in college and now in the pros, this kid has delivered over and over. Has it been that Foster is just that damn lucky, or is there actually some incredible talent there? I personally give far more weight to on field production than i do to "experts" and their judge of talent. Remember Mr. Foster was not even DRAFTED! Yet we have continual busts getting picked first overall. Do some of these "expert talent scouts" wish they could have gone back and actually drafted this guy? Of course they do. And behind Foster, on the practice squad, you have (in my opinion) an even bigger talent who would have made some splash this year if he didn't have a freak injury, Jeremiah Johnson. I remember this kid was better than his friend in the backfield, Jonathan Stewart, when the 2 were at Oregon. But i digress.Basically, I think that we have to trust what we see on the field with Foster. He is a very valuable piece in dynasty. I think you could have gotten more than B Marshall.
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:banned: Foster getting undersold on some of these deals. This and the Fitz one specifically.
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I am high on Foster's value, but you can't deny the questions that come with him. In a Dynasty PPR league Marshall is more of a sure thing AND will be a top player longer than Foster. I took the Foster train from UDFA little known in the offseason where I was getting 2nd round pick offers to now cashing him in in on a consistent top 5 wr. I'll take it
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:goodposting: Foster love has peaked....sell high IMO. If I could land a top 10 WR for him I would do it in a heartbeat.
 
Ten team non-ppr standard scoring:

With MJD, R Rice and CJ3 as staples I traded Bradshaw for Stafford then traded M Ryan for V Jackson (Brees is my #1).

 
12 team PPR, Team receiving foster was very deep. Depth for stud trade.

Shonn Greene

BenJarvus Green-Ellis

Jason Witten

2011 1st - Most likely bottom half

for

ARIAN FOSTER

 
What does everyone think of Ray Rice's value at this point? Here's what I just offered for him in my PPR dynasty:

Two 2011 1sts (probably low) and M.Williams TB

Uncertain whether the owner will bite. But that's about where I personally am willing to go for him.

 
Two deals from my main dynasty:

Trade #1:

Thomas Jones for Mike Wallace

Trade #2:

MJD, Tebow, 2011 2nd round pick (likely to be early)

for

Calvin Johnson, Brent Celek, 2011 1st and 3rd round picks (likely to be early)

 
Have a team in a 12 team, non PPR dynasty league where I started the year off with Roethlisberger, VJax, and Santonio all on suspension, only Freeman as a backup QB, and not nearly enough quality behind them at wide receiver to be competitive for the first four weeks, so I took this year as an opportunity to reload for 2011.

I've made three trades...

Before the season:

Gave up Michael Turner

Got Beanie Wells and a 2011 first round pick, currently looking like it'll be in the 4-6 range.

Last week:

Gave up Fred Jackson

Got Mike Sims-Walker

Today

Gave up Cedric Benson, Bernard Scott, and Steve Breaston

Got Michael Bush, Greg Jennings, Mohammed Massaquoi, and a 2011 first rounder, looking like it'll be in the 5-8 range.

I kept Peyton Hillis all offseason and into this year and I've come close to dealing him a couple times. I'm guessing he'll be the next to go.

 
Jersey35 said:
What does everyone think of Ray Rice's value at this point? Here's what I just offered for him in my PPR dynasty:Two 2011 1sts (probably low) and M.Williams TBUncertain whether the owner will bite. But that's about where I personally am willing to go for him.
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He'll probably be insulted.
 
Just traded on Sunday of week 5 after Bjax's "breakout" performance.

Gave

Turner, Brandon Jackson, James Davis

for

Greg Jennings and Jahvid Best.........

in 16 team h2h dynasty, no ppr.

 
Prior to week five's games, in a 12-team PPR league where you can start 2-4 WRs:

I traded Brandon Lloyd and 2011 3rd and 5th rookie picks (likely to be mid-round or early) for Mike Sims-Walker.

 
my $750 FFPC dynasty league

--- Cavalier King Charles ---

Traded Away:

Tony Gonzalez (ATL)

Braylon Edwards (NYJ)

Maurice Jones-Drew (JAC)

Kareem Huggins (TAM)

2011 Draft, Rnd 5

2011 Draft, Rnd 6

Acquired:

Fred Taylor (NWE)

Leon Washington (SEA)

Jeremy Maclin (PHI)

C.J. Spiller (BUF)

2011 Draft, Rnd 1

 
My local dynasty league

Akron gave up:

Rodgers, Aaron GBP QB

Hartline, Brian MIA WR

Boise gave up:

Flacco, Joe BAL QB

Britt, Kenny TEN WR

Colston, Marques NOS WR

Year 2011 Round 3 Draft Pick from Boise

 
Boise gave up

Williams, DeAngelo CAR RB

Thomas, Devin CAR WR

Northern California gave up

Jones, Felix DAL RB

Collins, Nick GBP S

Year 2011 Round 3 Draft Pick from Northern California

 
New Mexico gave up:

Gradkowski, Bruce OAK QB

Huntington gave up:

Year 2011 Round 3 Draft Pick from Huntington

Year 2012 Round 3 Draft Pick from Huntington

 
Just Win Baby said:
League 1 - 10 teams, no PPR -Traded Jennings and Henne for Calvin Johnson last weekTraded Hillis and Harrison for Deangelo Williams yesterday
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Same dynasty league. A few days ago I traded Moeaki, 2011 1st, 2011 2nd for Finley and Mark Clayton.I promptly dropped Clayton, so the deal was really just for Finley. My team is arguably the best team in the league, so it should be a late 1st and late 2nd. I figured I probably wouldn't even make the 2nd round pick, so that was unimportant.
 
12 Team IDP Fantasy League

Team A gave:

Wake, Cameron MIA LB;Marshall, Richard CAR CB

Team B gave:

Levy, DeAndre DET LB;Dahl, Craig STL S

 
Ship of Fools gave up Betts, Ladell NOS RB;Thomas, Pierre NOS RB;Austin, Miles DAL WR;Butler, Deon SEA WR;Gaffney, Jabar DEN WR;Shockey, Jeremy NOS TE;Saints, New Orleans NOS Def; Year 2012 Round 1 Draft Pick from Ship of Fools

Neverland Ranchers gave up Peterson, Adrian MIN RB;Evans, Lee BUF WR;Houshmandzadeh, T.J. BAL WR;Ochocinco, Chad CIN WR;Daniels, Owen HOU TE; Year 2012 Round 2 Draft Pick from Neverland Ranchers

 
A trade that I thought was made:

I gave up Hillis, Sidney Rice

I got Bryant, 2011 1st (should be top 5)

A number of folks said I overpaid, but it turns out it was accepted by accident and so we're reversing it.

 
A couple from this morning:

DeSean Jackson

Chris Wells

for

MJD

Ra Jennings

2011 3rd

and

Ma Floyd

Gates

for

Spiller

E Decker

 
The Real Hipster Doofus said:
corpcow said:
A trade that I thought was made:

I gave up Hillis, Sidney Rice

I got Bryant, 2011 1st (should be top 5)

A number of folks said I overpaid, but it turns out it was accepted by accident and so we're reversing it.
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People really said that?
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Yes. And to be honest, I was a bit nervous as well. Bear in mind, Hillis is on a league min salary (1/10th of Bryant or Rice or the 1.01 pick), and it's a RB/QB heavy league.
 
corpcow said:
The Real Hipster Doofus said:
corpcow said:
A trade that I thought was made:

I gave up Hillis, Sidney Rice

I got Bryant, 2011 1st (should be top 5)

A number of folks said I overpaid, but it turns out it was accepted by accident and so we're reversing it.
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People really said that?
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Yes. And to be honest, I was a bit nervous as well. Bear in mind, Hillis is on a league min salary (1/10th of Bryant or Rice or the 1.01 pick), and it's a RB/QB heavy league.
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Salary considerations probably make a difference, one that I can't really speak to. Hillis lacks staying power IMO. He is useful for this year but not sure how much more than that. I prefer Bryant to Rice straight up and a 2011 top 5 1st blows Hillis out of the water. Easy choice for me.
 
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