lol, i'm glad I'm not in this league.PPR dynasty start RB (1-3), WR (2-4)Team A gave MSW, Jacoby JonesTeam B gave Jamaal CharlesTeam A was loaded at WR (AJ, Calvin, Roddy)Team B was loaded at RB (Chris Johnson, Ray Rice, Pierre Thomas)
This trade should be vetoed, and i dont ever say that.PPR dynasty start RB (1-3), WR (2-4)Team A gave MSW, Jacoby JonesTeam B gave Jamaal CharlesTeam A was loaded at WR (AJ, Calvin, Roddy)Team B was loaded at RB (Chris Johnson, Ray Rice, Pierre Thomas)
I assume you think the team getting Charles is getting the better end of the deal? I'm not that high on Charles so the trade is fair to me.This trade should be vetoed, and i dont ever say that.PPR dynasty start RB (1-3), WR (2-4)Team A gave MSW, Jacoby JonesTeam B gave Jamaal CharlesTeam A was loaded at WR (AJ, Calvin, Roddy)Team B was loaded at RB (Chris Johnson, Ray Rice, Pierre Thomas)
Yea, I don't have that much of a problem with the trade......its the rosters I was talking about.lol, i'm glad I'm not in this league.PPR dynasty start RB (1-3), WR (2-4)
Team A gave MSW, Jacoby Jones
Team B gave Jamaal Charles
Team A was loaded at WR (AJ, Calvin, Roddy)
Team B was loaded at RB (Chris Johnson, Ray Rice, Pierre Thomas)
Wether you like Charles or not, he should fetch way more than a couple of bye week fillers.I assume you think the team getting Charles is getting the better end of the deal? I'm not that high on Charles so the trade is fair to me.This trade should be vetoed, and i dont ever say that.PPR dynasty start RB (1-3), WR (2-4)Team A gave MSW, Jacoby JonesTeam B gave Jamaal CharlesTeam A was loaded at WR (AJ, Calvin, Roddy)Team B was loaded at RB (Chris Johnson, Ray Rice, Pierre Thomas)
Assuming you are correct, why's that a reason to veto the trade?Wether you like Charles or not, he should fetch way more than a couple of bye week fillers.I assume you think the team getting Charles is getting the better end of the deal? I'm not that high on Charles so the trade is fair to me.This trade should be vetoed, and i dont ever say that.PPR dynasty start RB (1-3), WR (2-4)Team A gave MSW, Jacoby JonesTeam B gave Jamaal CharlesTeam A was loaded at WR (AJ, Calvin, Roddy)Team B was loaded at RB (Chris Johnson, Ray Rice, Pierre Thomas)
Alright, its not really vetoable, unless the league allows trades to be vetoed for reasons other than collusion.Assuming you are correct, why's that a reason to veto the trade?Wether you like Charles or not, he should fetch way more than a couple of bye week fillers.I assume you think the team getting Charles is getting the better end of the deal? I'm not that high on Charles so the trade is fair to me.This trade should be vetoed, and i dont ever say that.PPR dynasty start RB (1-3), WR (2-4)Team A gave MSW, Jacoby JonesTeam B gave Jamaal CharlesTeam A was loaded at WR (AJ, Calvin, Roddy)Team B was loaded at RB (Chris Johnson, Ray Rice, Pierre Thomas)
Since when is MSW a bye week filler? Most have him as a top 20 dynasty WR as The WR1 in Jacksonville.Alright, its not really vetoable, unless the league allows trades to be vetoed for reasons other than collusion.
Is Herman the commish of this league?Team A gives: Kevin KolbTeam B gives: Stephen Gostkowski2 kicker league, FG's over 50 yards are worth 6 points.
I don't think it's that bad of a trade. As a JC owner, do I do this trade, really doubt it as I think I can get a bit more value out of him.Well, I think it's a very subjective issue. If you think Charles, after one very good half-season with no competition in the backfield (and not much anywhere else on the field for that matter), is going to continue to put up those kind of numbers, or anything close, with Thomas Jones stealing carries and TD's. And whether or not you see Mike Sims-Walker as a bye week fill-in, or a potential WR1 or even a solid WR2. You're getting two 25 yr old WR's with some upside for possibly the 3rd or 4th best FF RB on your roster. I'm in this league and I don't think it's that bad. And the fact is, you just don't even know yet.
Is Herman the commish of this league?Team A gives: Kevin KolbTeam B gives: Stephen Gostkowski2 kicker league, FG's over 50 yards are worth 6 points.
------------12 team ppr QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, K, RB/WR/TE flexTraded: Maclin + 2.03Got: Boldin + 3.02.I think the 1.8+Thomas side won that one.Pierre Thomas2010 pick 1.08for2010 pick 1.03
I don't know which is worse. This trade (horrible) or the fact that there are two kicker leagues.Team A gives: Kevin Kolb
Team B gives: Stephen Gostkowski
2 kicker league, FG's over 50 yards are worth 6 points.
ninerfan said:I don't know which is worse. This trade (horrible) or the fact that there are two kicker leagues.Team A gives: Kevin Kolb
Team B gives: Stephen Gostkowski
2 kicker league, FG's over 50 yards are worth 6 points.

ninerfan said:I don't know which is worse. This trade (horrible) or the fact that there are two kicker leagues.Team A gives: Kevin Kolb
Team B gives: Stephen Gostkowski
2 kicker league, FG's over 50 yards are worth 6 points.![]()
I second that. My league doesn't even use kickers.As a MSW owner, I wouldn't take Charles straight up for him.I don't think it's that bad of a trade. As a JC owner, do I do this trade, really doubt it as I think I can get a bit more value out of him.Well, I think it's a very subjective issue. If you think Charles, after one very good half-season with no competition in the backfield (and not much anywhere else on the field for that matter), is going to continue to put up those kind of numbers, or anything close, with Thomas Jones stealing carries and TD's. And whether or not you see Mike Sims-Walker as a bye week fill-in, or a potential WR1 or even a solid WR2. You're getting two 25 yr old WR's with some upside for possibly the 3rd or 4th best FF RB on your roster. I'm in this league and I don't think it's that bad. And the fact is, you just don't even know yet.
I play in more hardcore leagues than the general public is used to.ninerfan said:I don't know which is worse. This trade (horrible) or the fact that there are two kicker leagues.Team A gives: Kevin Kolb
Team B gives: Stephen Gostkowski
2 kicker league, FG's over 50 yards are worth 6 points.![]()
I second that. My league doesn't even use kickers.

What are you basing this on? Opinion only? Haley came out and said he screwed up in thinking Charles couldn't carry a load. Take a gander back at the last few games and see the 25 carry games scattered in there. If you watched the games, his talent was undeniable and it was a crime he wasn't on the field sooner. Thomas Jones won't keep him off the field. Steal goal line carries, maybe, but Charles is the future that this team will build around.I don't think Charles will ever have the same role he had the last half of the season. That was just because they didn't really have any other options.I can see someone wanting to roll with MSW instead.
I agree.. and at the very least, if I wasn't sold on Charles, I'd at the very least trade for value, then turn around and shop Charles..What are you basing this on? Opinion only? Haley came out and said he screwed up in thinking Charles couldn't carry a load. Take a gander back at the last few games and see the 25 carry games scattered in there. If you watched the games, his talent was undeniable and it was a crime he wasn't on the field sooner. Thomas Jones won't keep him off the field. Steal goal line carries, maybe, but Charles is the future that this team will build around.I don't think Charles will ever have the same role he had the last half of the season. That was just because they didn't really have any other options.I can see someone wanting to roll with MSW instead.
I just get the feeling they don't want to build around a smaller back, despite what they might have said. I think Jones will get more work than some think. Yeah, some opinion and some reading between the lines maybe.What are you basing this on? Opinion only? Haley came out and said he screwed up in thinking Charles couldn't carry a load. Take a gander back at the last few games and see the 25 carry games scattered in there. If you watched the games, his talent was undeniable and it was a crime he wasn't on the field sooner. Thomas Jones won't keep him off the field. Steal goal line carries, maybe, but Charles is the future that this team will build around.I don't think Charles will ever have the same role he had the last half of the season. That was just because they didn't really have any other options.I can see someone wanting to roll with MSW instead.
Agreed. And Thomas Jones has had a run of games like Charles did behind a bad O-line exactly when? Seems to me in AZ and CHI he was pretty average. Only behind a top line as a compiler did he put up great numbers.It will be based on talent and performance, not coach speak.
The Jets have not had a "top line" for TJ's entire time there. Also anyone who has watched his career can tell you that Jones became a better runner himself and reinvented his style.I agree that Charles is over-hyped and will be the bigger part of what should be a RBBC in KC. I also think MSW is under-rated, but when you put those two facts together, Charles should buy you a good bit more than MSW.Agreed. And Thomas Jones has had a run of games like Charles did behind a bad O-line exactly when? Seems to me in AZ and CHI he was pretty average. Only behind a top line as a compiler did he put up great numbers.It will be based on talent and performance, not coach speak.
Hey Im in this leagueKinda of a puzzler deal12 team PPR, start 1 RB, 2 WR, 2 flexTeam A gets: Kenny Britt + Slaton + Arian FosterTeam B gets: Michael Turner + Snelling + Nate Washington + Zach Miller + 2.01
Which Zach Miller? Either way, I think Team A got ripped off.12 team PPR, start 1 RB, 2 WR, 2 flexTeam A gets: Kenny Britt + Slaton + Arian FosterTeam B gets: Michael Turner + Snelling + Nate Washington + Zach Miller + 2.01
Wow! Just slightly.Which Zach Miller? Either way, I think Team A got ripped off.12 team PPR, start 1 RB, 2 WR, 2 flexTeam A gets: Kenny Britt + Slaton + Arian FosterTeam B gets: Michael Turner + Snelling + Nate Washington + Zach Miller + 2.01

No reach-around for Team B?Team A Gets: Peyton Manning, Larry Fitzgerald, 2.02 rookieTeam B Gets: Kevin Kolb, Brandon Jacobs, Dwayne Bowe, 1.10 rookie
Thats what I was wondering.... Just joined a new league and that was the first trade completed since I have been in. Not sure what to think about that really.No reach-around for Team B?Team A Gets: Peyton Manning, Larry Fitzgerald, 2.02 rookieTeam B Gets: Kevin Kolb, Brandon Jacobs, Dwayne Bowe, 1.10 rookie
If this is real it is one of the worst trades I've ever seen.No reach-around for Team B?Team A Gets: Peyton Manning, Larry Fitzgerald, 2.02 rookieTeam B Gets: Kevin Kolb, Brandon Jacobs, Dwayne Bowe, 1.10 rookie
Umm...usually when people sell off studs, they get nice value. I'm not sure Fitz isn't worth more than Jacobs, Bowe, 1.10 and Kolb by himself.Ouch!Thats what I was wondering.... Just joined a new league and that was the first trade completed since I have been in. Not sure what to think about that really.No reach-around for Team B?Team A Gets: Peyton Manning, Larry Fitzgerald, 2.02 rookieTeam B Gets: Kevin Kolb, Brandon Jacobs, Dwayne Bowe, 1.10 rookie
Thats ridiculous, Team A owner should be arrested for rape.Team A Gets: Peyton Manning, Larry Fitzgerald, 2.02 rookieTeam B Gets: Kevin Kolb, Brandon Jacobs, Dwayne Bowe, 1.10 rookie
I agree that Charles should be able to buy you more than MSW, but that doesn't mean I'd give Sky-Walker for him. I don't always follow general perception of value and will "overpay" for guys I like. MSW is one of those guys. I'm not down on Charles, and I liked his splash reel coming out of college but just though he would need a couple years of NFL conditioning and to stay away from the track team. He's done that, and is on his way to being a good NFL RB, but I think MSW is more valuable to my teams as I find it easy to get bye week RBs and I play only PPR.The Jets have not had a "top line" for TJ's entire time there. Also anyone who has watched his career can tell you that Jones became a better runner himself and reinvented his style.I agree that Charles is over-hyped and will be the bigger part of what should be a RBBC in KC. I also think MSW is under-rated, but when you put those two facts together, Charles should buy you a good bit more than MSW.Agreed. And Thomas Jones has had a run of games like Charles did behind a bad O-line exactly when? Seems to me in AZ and CHI he was pretty average. Only behind a top line as a compiler did he put up great numbers.It will be based on talent and performance, not coach speak.
Just looked up the league's transactions page.Trade was made @ 'Thu Apr 1 12:01:50 a.m. ET 2010'Team A Gets: Peyton Manning, Larry Fitzgerald, 2.02 rookieTeam B Gets: Kevin Kolb, Brandon Jacobs, Dwayne Bowe, 1.10 rookie

Just looked up the league's transactions page.Trade was made @ 'Thu Apr 1 12:01:50 a.m. ET 2010'Team A Gets: Peyton Manning, Larry Fitzgerald, 2.02 rookieTeam B Gets: Kevin Kolb, Brandon Jacobs, Dwayne Bowe, 1.10 rookie![]()

Yes, it was an April Fool's joke. It got quite a rise out of the owners that saw it.Just looked up the league's transactions page.Trade was made @ 'Thu Apr 1 12:01:50 a.m. ET 2010'Team A Gets: Peyton Manning, Larry Fitzgerald, 2.02 rookieTeam B Gets: Kevin Kolb, Brandon Jacobs, Dwayne Bowe, 1.10 rookie![]()
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