2010 Rookie Draft Picks, Looking Ahead! (1 Viewer)

[finito]

Where do you guys see Gresham going in 12 team ppr leagues? I had my eye on him with the 2.03...

 

[BigTex]

Where do you guys see Gresham going in 12 team ppr leagues? I had my eye on him with the 2.03...

I'm in a 10 team league and he won't make it to the second round.

 

[EBF]

TEs rarely get picked before 1.10 in leagues that don't give a special bonus to the position. I would expect to see Gresham go off the board between picks 10-18 in most rookie drafts. That's about where TEs picked in the late first round of the NFL draft usually go (Miller, Lewis, Keller, etc).

 

[BigTex]

TEs rarely get picked before 1.10 in leagues that don't give a special bonus to the position. I would expect to see Gresham go off the board between picks 10-18 in most rookie drafts. That's about where TEs picked in the late first round of the NFL draft usually go (Miller, Lewis, Keller, etc).

Like I mentioned earlier, I don't have a problem reaching for him because I believe he's worth it. The TE is the only position that get points for catches 1rec=.5pt. They hold special value in our league, outside of Dez I have no problem taken him before the other WRs in this class. (1.7pick)

 

[EBF]

TEs rarely get picked before 1.10 in leagues that don't give a special bonus to the position. I would expect to see Gresham go off the board between picks 10-18 in most rookie drafts. That's about where TEs picked in the late first round of the NFL draft usually go (Miller, Lewis, Keller, etc).

Like I mentioned earlier, I don't have a problem reaching for him because I believe he's worth it. The TE is the only position that get points for catches 1rec=.5pt. They hold special value in our league, outside of Dez I have no problem taken him before the other WRs in this class. (1.7pick)

That's all well and fine, but the question wasn't where YOU would take him. The question was, "Where do you guys see Gresham going in 12 team ppr leagues?" I think he will fall into the early-mid second round of many 12 team drafts like other similarly regarded TEs have done in recent seasons. The only recent TEs who had a top 10 ADP in rookie drafts were Winslow and possibly Davis. They were both top 10 picks in the NFL draft. Gresham figures to slip into the 20-30 range, making him less likely to be seen as a realistic candidate ahead of the first tier RBs, QBs, and WRs.

 

[jeter23]

DeMarco Murray returning to OU, not sure if this was already posted.

 

[JohnnyU]

DeMarco Murray returning to OU, not sure if this was already posted.

Good for him. He's a marginal talent IMO and should get his education.

 

[BigTex]

TEs rarely get picked before 1.10 in leagues that don't give a special bonus to the position. I would expect to see Gresham go off the board between picks 10-18 in most rookie drafts. That's about where TEs picked in the late first round of the NFL draft usually go (Miller, Lewis, Keller, etc).

Like I mentioned earlier, I don't have a problem reaching for him because I believe he's worth it. The TE is the only position that get points for catches 1rec=.5pt. They hold special value in our league, outside of Dez I have no problem taken him before the other WRs in this class. (1.7pick)

That's all well and fine, but the question wasn't where YOU would take him. The question was, "Where do you guys see Gresham going in 12 team ppr leagues?" I think he will fall into the early-mid second round of many 12 team drafts like other similarly regarded TEs have done in recent seasons. The only recent TEs who had a top 10 ADP in rookie drafts were Winslow and possibly Davis. They were both top 10 picks in the NFL draft. Gresham figures to slip into the 20-30 range, making him less likely to be seen as a realistic candidate ahead of the first tier RBs, QBs, and WRs.

You clearly missed the word "REACH" twice. I'm letting him know that I will be reaching for him and I guarantee I won't be the only one. Actually trying to figure where a person will be picked in a draft is nothing more than a guessing game until Fantasy Teams actually start drafting then we may look at his ADP. But until then everyone is guessing. I'm not guessing I'm REACHING in the first round to draft the guy I want. This is a fact not a guess, like you mentioned earlier, in some leagues TEs hold special value this will cause him to go higher in those leagues.LOL, he may slip into the 20-30 range but I won't wait to find out. I'll take him if he's on the board when my number is called. In my case I don't pick until 2.7 and 2.8 Gresham will be gone by then unless I can trade up to the 2.1 or 2.2 turn. I know you're not the biggest fan of Gresham but hey some of us are. My guess he'll be top 15 pick.

 

[BigTex]

DeMarco Murray returning to OU, not sure if this was already posted.

Good for him. He's a marginal talent IMO and should get his education.

All Hype very little substance.

 

[Balco]

DeMarco Murray returning to OU, not sure if this was already posted.

Good for him. He's a marginal talent IMO and should get his education.

All Hype very little substance.

I think the hype was justified early in his career, but injuries have really taken their toll on Murray. Looks like a shell of his former self.

 

[jurb26]

DeMarco Murray returning to OU, not sure if this was already posted.

Good for him. He's a marginal talent IMO and should get his education.

All Hype very little substance.

I think the hype was justified early in his career, but injuries have really taken their toll on Murray. Looks like a shell of his former self.

Agreed, the guy has been battered up for over 2 years now. I'm not sure he will ever be the player we saw 3 years ago.

 

[coolnerd]

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/EastWe...ew-Part-II.html

The only RB at the East/West shrine game that I don't recall seeing in a game nor hearing a peep about. Mostly for reference

RB Dimitri Nance, Arizona State

Nance is one of my favorite senior running backs in the draft. He’s a thick, compact runner who showcases good lateral quickness and can create on his own inside. He ran behind one of the worst offensive lines in the Pac-10, but I expect him to open some eyes in Orlando.

 

[BigTex]

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/EastWe...ew-Part-II.html

The only RB at the East/West shrine game that I don't recall seeing in a game nor hearing a peep about. Mostly for reference

RB Dimitri Nance, Arizona State

Nance is one of my favorite senior running backs in the draft. He’s a thick, compact runner who showcases good lateral quickness and can create on his own inside. He ran behind one of the worst offensive lines in the Pac-10, but I expect him to open some eyes in Orlando.

AS rotated 3 running backs this year and he was the leading rushing of the 3, I believe he had 800 yds rushing.

 

[coolnerd]

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/EastWe...ew-Part-II.html

The only RB at the East/West shrine game that I don't recall seeing in a game nor hearing a peep about. Mostly for reference

RB Dimitri Nance, Arizona State

Nance is one of my favorite senior running backs in the draft. He’s a thick, compact runner who showcases good lateral quickness and can create on his own inside. He ran behind one of the worst offensive lines in the Pac-10, but I expect him to open some eyes in Orlando.

AS rotated 3 running backs this year and he was the leading rushing of the 3, I believe he had 800 yds rushing.

Thanks Greg,Just so you know the group just disbanded mostly because none of us lived close to each other.

 

[EBF]

Saw Arizona State in person last season. Nance didn't stand out.

 

[Instinctive]

TEs rarely get picked before 1.10 in leagues that don't give a special bonus to the position. I would expect to see Gresham go off the board between picks 10-18 in most rookie drafts. That's about where TEs picked in the late first round of the NFL draft usually go (Miller, Lewis, Keller, etc).

Like I mentioned earlier, I don't have a problem reaching for him because I believe he's worth it. The TE is the only position that get points for catches 1rec=.5pt. They hold special value in our league, outside of Dez I have no problem taken him before the other WRs in this class. (1.7pick)

That's all well and fine, but the question wasn't where YOU would take him. The question was, "Where do you guys see Gresham going in 12 team ppr leagues?" I think he will fall into the early-mid second round of many 12 team drafts like other similarly regarded TEs have done in recent seasons. The only recent TEs who had a top 10 ADP in rookie drafts were Winslow and possibly Davis. They were both top 10 picks in the NFL draft. Gresham figures to slip into the 20-30 range, making him less likely to be seen as a realistic candidate ahead of the first tier RBs, QBs, and WRs.

You clearly missed the word "REACH" twice. I'm letting him know that I will be reaching for him and I guarantee I won't be the only one. Actually trying to figure where a person will be picked in a draft is nothing more than a guessing game until Fantasy Teams actually start drafting then we may look at his ADP. But until then everyone is guessing. I'm not guessing I'm REACHING in the first round to draft the guy I want. This is a fact not a guess, like you mentioned earlier, in some leagues TEs hold special value this will cause him to go higher in those leagues.LOL, he may slip into the 20-30 range but I won't wait to find out. I'll take him if he's on the board when my number is called. In my case I don't pick until 2.7 and 2.8 Gresham will be gone by then unless I can trade up to the 2.1 or 2.2 turn. I know you're not the biggest fan of Gresham but hey some of us are. My guess he'll be top 15 pick.

99% sure he meant in the real life NFL draft that's about where he's most likely to slip to

 

[EBF]

2010 Senior Bowl roster as of 1/17:

http://www.seniorbowl.com/rosters.asp

QB Sean Canfield, Oregon State

QB Dan LeFevour, Central Michigan

QB Tony Pike, Cincinnati

QB Tim Tebow, Florida

RB Joique Bell, Wayne State

RB Chris Brown, Oklahoma

RB Anthony Dixon, Mississippi State

RB Montario Hardesty, Tennessee

RB Stafon Johnson, USC

RB Charles Scott, LSU

RB Ben Tate, Auburn

WR Danario Alexander, Missouri

WR Riley Cooper, Florida

WR Shay Hodge, Ole Miss

WR Brandon LaFell, LSU

WR Dexter McCluster, Ole Miss

WR Andre Roberts, The Citadel

WR Joe Webb, UAB

WR Jeremy Williams, Tulane

TE Jimmy Graham, Miami

TE Anthony McCoy, USC

It looks like there will be more names added in the next week or two. This isn't enough QBs and TEs.

I have never heard of Joique Bell or Andre Roberts. People must think pretty highly of them because roster spots in this game are only offered to the best senior prospects in the country.

Expect Tebow's performance to be the big story regardless of whether it's good or bad. I think it shows balls for him to play in this.

 

[coolnerd]

Bell is a productive small school runner with NFL body 6'0 225ish. saw him in someone's senior only top 10

Roberts is smallish returner type with lots of catches, production numbers seemed better as a junior.

 

[BigTex]

Bell is a productive small school runner with NFL body 6'0 225ish. saw him in someone's senior only top 10Roberts is smallish returner type with lots of catches, production numbers seemed better as a junior.

What's up Coolnerd? I don't know if you've been coming by the restaurant, I have a Quad tendon rupture and will be down for a few more weeks. But away, I've spent the weekend preparing for the draft and I came across this guy. I've never heard of him until today. He post some very impressive numbers and I surprised that no one is talking about him. I look forward to seeing what he can do in this game.

 

[FUBAR]

RB Joique Bell, Wayne StateI have never heard of Joique Bell or Andre Roberts. People must think pretty highly of them because roster spots in this game are only offered to the best senior prospects in the country.

I grew up near Detroit and didn't realize Wayne State even had a football team.

 

[BigTex]

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/EastWe...ew-Part-II.html

The only RB at the East/West shrine game that I don't recall seeing in a game nor hearing a peep about. Mostly for reference

RB Dimitri Nance, Arizona State

Nance is one of my favorite senior running backs in the draft. He’s a thick, compact runner who showcases good lateral quickness and can create on his own inside. He ran behind one of the worst offensive lines in the Pac-10, but I expect him to open some eyes in Orlando.

AS rotated 3 running backs this year and he was the leading rushing of the 3, I believe he had 800 yds rushing.

Thanks Greg,Just so you know the group just disbanded mostly because none of us lived close to each other.

I missed this post, that's cool I've been out since December because of the injury but get with me if you need anything. The last time you guys were there I didn't get the chance to come over as I had a lot going on but I'll see you around

 

[BigTex]

RB Joique Bell, Wayne State

I have never heard of Joique Bell or Andre Roberts. People must think pretty highly of them because roster spots in this game are only offered to the best senior prospects in the country.

I grew up near Detroit and didn't realize Wayne State even had a football team.

Division 2http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGNMt1ZzJ3Q...feature=related

 

[BigTex]

2010 Senior Bowl roster as of 1/17:

http://www.seniorbowl.com/rosters.asp

QB Sean Canfield, Oregon State

QB Dan LeFevour, Central Michigan

QB Tony Pike, Cincinnati

QB Tim Tebow, Florida

RB Joique Bell, Wayne State

RB Chris Brown, Oklahoma

RB Anthony Dixon, Mississippi State

RB Montario Hardesty, Tennessee

RB Stafon Johnson, USC

RB Charles Scott, LSU

RB Ben Tate, Auburn

WR Danario Alexander, Missouri

WR Riley Cooper, Florida

WR Shay Hodge, Ole Miss

WR Brandon LaFell, LSU

WR Dexter McCluster, Ole Miss

WR Andre Roberts, The Citadel

WR Joe Webb, UAB

WR Jeremy Williams, Tulane

TE Jimmy Graham, Miami

TE Anthony McCoy, USC

It looks like there will be more names added in the next week or two. This isn't enough QBs and TEs.

I have never heard of Joique Bell or Andre Roberts. People must think pretty highly of them because roster spots in this game are only offered to the best senior prospects in the country.

Expect Tebow's performance to be the big story regardless of whether it's good or bad. I think it shows balls for him to play in this.

Reports are saying that Bell was automatically invited to the Senior Bowl because he was the Harlon Hill Award winner.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

RB Joique Bell, Wayne StateI have never heard of Joique Bell or Andre Roberts. People must think pretty highly of them because roster spots in this game are only offered to the best senior prospects in the country.

I grew up near Detroit and didn't realize Wayne State even had a football team.

Two different Wayne States......one in Michigan....one in Nebraska

 

[EBF]

Reports are saying that Bell was automatically invited to the Senior Bowl because he was the Harlon Hill Award winner.

That would make sense. I dug up some highlights of him on YouTube. He looks interesting, but not spectacular. Thinking he is probably another late round pick like Xavier Omon or Rashad Jennings. We'll see.

 

[BigTex]

Reports are saying that Bell was automatically invited to the Senior Bowl because he was the Harlon Hill Award winner.

That would make sense. I dug up some highlights of him on YouTube. He looks interesting, but not spectacular. Thinking he is probably another late round pick like Xavier Omon or Rashad Jennings. We'll see.

I read on of his interviews according to him, he's been told that he'll go in the 3rd round but with a good combine he could go higher. On record as running 4.54 but his fastest time is 4.4#. He said he's visited by nearly every NFL scout.

 

[purplejesus28]

2010 Senior Bowl roster as of 1/17:

http://www.seniorbowl.com/rosters.asp

QB Sean Canfield, Oregon State

QB Dan LeFevour, Central Michigan

QB Tony Pike, Cincinnati

QB Tim Tebow, Florida

RB Joique Bell, Wayne State

RB Chris Brown, Oklahoma

RB Anthony Dixon, Mississippi State

RB Montario Hardesty, Tennessee

RB Stafon Johnson, USC

RB Charles Scott, LSU

RB Ben Tate, Auburn

WR Danario Alexander, Missouri

WR Riley Cooper, Florida

WR Shay Hodge, Ole Miss

WR Brandon LaFell, LSU

WR Dexter McCluster, Ole Miss

WR Andre Roberts, The Citadel

WR Joe Webb, UAB

WR Jeremy Williams, Tulane

TE Jimmy Graham, Miami

TE Anthony McCoy, USC

It looks like there will be more names added in the next week or two. This isn't enough QBs and TEs.

I have never heard of Joique Bell or Andre Roberts. People must think pretty highly of them because roster spots in this game are only offered to the best senior prospects in the country.

Expect Tebow's performance to be the big story regardless of whether it's good or bad. I think it shows balls for him to play in this.

LeFevour, S. Johnson and McCluster are the interesting guys to me here.

 

[mcintyre1]

Reports are saying that Bell was automatically invited to the Senior Bowl because he was the Harlon Hill Award winner.

That would make sense. I dug up some highlights of him on YouTube. He looks interesting, but not spectacular. Thinking he is probably another late round pick like Xavier Omon or Rashad Jennings. We'll see.

I read on of his interviews according to him, he's been told that he'll go in the 3rd round but with a good combine he could go higher. On record as running 4.54 but his fastest time is 4.4#. He said he's visited by nearly every NFL scout.

The last couple of Harlon Hill winners have at least been successful in getting on NFL rosters (Xavier Omon, Danny Woodhead), so he's worth a look.

 

[Cookiemonster]

RB Joique Bell, Wayne State

I have never heard of Joique Bell or Andre Roberts. People must think pretty highly of them because roster spots in this game are only offered to the best senior prospects in the country.

I grew up near Detroit and didn't realize Wayne State even had a football team.

Division 2http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGNMt1ZzJ3Q...feature=related

3:55 mark of the 1st video... I'd draft him for his nostrils alone. Should never run out of wind.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Reports are saying that Bell was automatically invited to the Senior Bowl because he was the Harlon Hill Award winner.

That would make sense. I dug up some highlights of him on YouTube. He looks interesting, but not spectacular. Thinking he is probably another late round pick like Xavier Omon or Rashad Jennings. We'll see.

I read on of his interviews according to him, he's been told that he'll go in the 3rd round but with a good combine he could go higher. On record as running 4.54 but his fastest time is 4.4#. He said he's visited by nearly every NFL scout.

The last couple of Harlon Hill winners have at least been successful in getting on NFL rosters (Xavier Omon, Danny Woodhead), so he's worth a look.

I'd rather have Omon to be honest...he even looked decent with the Bills.

 

[BuckeyeArt]

RB Joique Bell, Wayne State

I have never heard of Joique Bell or Andre Roberts. People must think pretty highly of them because roster spots in this game are only offered to the best senior prospects in the country.

I grew up near Detroit and didn't realize Wayne State even had a football team.

Division 2http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGNMt1ZzJ3Q...feature=related

Also,Junior - 218-1208-12

Sophomore - 289-1514-25

Freshman - 348-2159-22

 

[BigTex]

RB Joique Bell, Wayne State

I have never heard of Joique Bell or Andre Roberts. People must think pretty highly of them because roster spots in this game are only offered to the best senior prospects in the country.

I grew up near Detroit and didn't realize Wayne State even had a football team.

Division 2http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGNMt1ZzJ3Q...feature=related

Wow, that's nearly 5,000 yds

 

[BuckeyeArt]

Division 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGNMt1ZzJ3Q...feature=related

6728 for his career.I think I remember reading somewhere that the junior year stats were down due to a lingering injury but I couldn't find it when I looked again. I know it's D2 but the freshman year is amazing.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

That is a solid career.

Just to note about Xavier Omon.......he had over 1,500 yards rushing all 4 years in college.

 

[BigTex]

Division 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGNMt1ZzJ3Q...feature=related

To put up numbers like this you're doing something right. I saw a video in which he caught a player from behind after a failed two point conversion. He ran 90+ yds to tackled this guy at about the 1yd line and caught him without an angle. He has real chance to make something happen.

 

[BigTex]

That is a solid career.

Just to note about Xavier Omon.......he had over 1,500 yards rushing all 4 years in college.

Draftguys has great things to say about him. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn9_Y1KANpg...mp;feature=fvwp

 

[mcintyre1]

To put up numbers like this you're doing something right. I saw a video in which he caught a player from behind after a failed two point conversion. He ran 90+ yds to tackled this guy at about the 1yd line and caught him without an angle. He has real chance to make something happen.

Before we get carried away here, lets compare him to the last two great DII RBs to come out.Danny Woodhead 1135-7871-6.9ypc-101TD

Xavier Omon 1244-7177-5.7ypc-91TD

Joique Bell 1181-6794-5.75ypc-88TD

Overall, he's been less impressive (for a career) than two marginal NFL talents. Now I know, stats aren't everything, but let's keep this in perspective.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

To put up numbers like this you're doing something right. I saw a video in which he caught a player from behind after a failed two point conversion. He ran 90+ yds to tackled this guy at about the 1yd line and caught him without an angle. He has real chance to make something happen.

Before we get carried away here, lets compare him to the last two great DII RBs to come out.Danny Woodhead 1135-7871-6.9ypc-101TD

Xavier Omon 1244-7177-5.7ypc-91TD

Joique Bell 1181-6794-5.75ypc-88TD

Overall, he's been less impressive (for a career) than two marginal NFL talents. Now I know, stats aren't everything, but let's keep this in perspective.

Thank you, that was my point.Even D1AA or FCS backs haven't been that productive in the NFL...outside of Brian Westbrook.

Throwing numbers out there is nice....but have you guys even looked at the original Adrian Peterson's numbers in D1AA? They are sick

 

[BigTex]

To put up numbers like this you're doing something right. I saw a video in which he caught a player from behind after a failed two point conversion. He ran 90+ yds to tackled this guy at about the 1yd line and caught him without an angle. He has real chance to make something happen.

Before we get carried away here, lets compare him to the last two great DII RBs to come out.Danny Woodhead 1135-7871-6.9ypc-101TD

Xavier Omon 1244-7177-5.7ypc-91TD

Joique Bell 1181-6794-5.75ypc-88TD

Overall, he's been less impressive (for a career) than two marginal NFL talents. Now I know, stats aren't everything, but let's keep this in perspective.

Thank you, that was my point.Even D1AA or FCS backs haven't been that productive in the NFL...outside of Brian Westbrook.

Throwing numbers out there is nice....but have you guys even looked at the original Adrian Peterson's numbers in D1AA? They are sick

You mention a few guys one as a small example but how about Michael Roos (Eastern Washington), Cortland Finnegan (Samford), Nick Collins (Bethune Cookman), Johnny Knox (Abiliene Christian), Derek Cox (William&Mary), London Fletcher (Division III John Carroll), Leonard Weaver (Division II Carson Newman), or Reggie Wells (Clarion). Guys from small schools make it in the NFL all the time. I remember one of the debates on the board questioning Chris Johnson many dismissed him because the questioned his level of competition. Similar thing happened with Randy Moss.No one claimed this guys the next Barry Sanders but let's not dismiss him by comparing him to two other players that have nothing to do with his playing ability. At minimum he's guy worth keeping an eye on.

:twocents:

Tex

 

[Instinctive]

To put up numbers like this you're doing something right. I saw a video in which he caught a player from behind after a failed two point conversion. He ran 90+ yds to tackled this guy at about the 1yd line and caught him without an angle. He has real chance to make something happen.

Before we get carried away here, lets compare him to the last two great DII RBs to come out.Danny Woodhead 1135-7871-6.9ypc-101TD

Xavier Omon 1244-7177-5.7ypc-91TD

Joique Bell 1181-6794-5.75ypc-88TD

Overall, he's been less impressive (for a career) than two marginal NFL talents. Now I know, stats aren't everything, but let's keep this in perspective.

Thank you, that was my point.Even D1AA or FCS backs haven't been that productive in the NFL...outside of Brian Westbrook.

Throwing numbers out there is nice....but have you guys even looked at the original Adrian Peterson's numbers in D1AA? They are sick

You mention a few guys one as a small example but how about Michael Roos (Eastern Washington), Cortland Finnegan (Samford), Nick Collins (Bethune Cookman), Johnny Knox (Abiliene Christian), Derek Cox (William&Mary), London Fletcher (Division III John Carroll), Leonard Weaver (Division II Carson Newman), or Reggie Wells (Clarion). Guys from small schools make it in the NFL all the time. I remember one of the debates on the board questioning Chris Johnson many dismissed him because the questioned his level of competition. Similar thing happened with Randy Moss.No one claimed this guys the next Barry Sanders but let's not dismiss him by comparing him to two other players that have nothing to do with his playing ability. At minimum he's guy worth keeping an eye on.

:twocents:

Tex

All of those guys you mentioned...I don't want any of them as my FF RB. Just sayin. CJ4.24 went to East Carolina, iirc, which, iirc, is D1. So...not D1AA or FCS.

 

[BigTex]

To put up numbers like this you're doing something right. I saw a video in which he caught a player from behind after a failed two point conversion. He ran 90+ yds to tackled this guy at about the 1yd line and caught him without an angle. He has real chance to make something happen.

Before we get carried away here, lets compare him to the last two great DII RBs to come out.Danny Woodhead 1135-7871-6.9ypc-101TD

Xavier Omon 1244-7177-5.7ypc-91TD

Joique Bell 1181-6794-5.75ypc-88TD

Overall, he's been less impressive (for a career) than two marginal NFL talents. Now I know, stats aren't everything, but let's keep this in perspective.

Thank you, that was my point.Even D1AA or FCS backs haven't been that productive in the NFL...outside of Brian Westbrook.

Throwing numbers out there is nice....but have you guys even looked at the original Adrian Peterson's numbers in D1AA? They are sick

You mention a few guys one as a small example but how about Michael Roos (Eastern Washington), Cortland Finnegan (Samford), Nick Collins (Bethune Cookman), Johnny Knox (Abiliene Christian), Derek Cox (William&Mary), London Fletcher (Division III John Carroll), Leonard Weaver (Division II Carson Newman), or Reggie Wells (Clarion). Guys from small schools make it in the NFL all the time. I remember one of the debates on the board questioning Chris Johnson many dismissed him because the questioned his level of competition. Similar thing happened with Randy Moss.No one claimed this guys the next Barry Sanders but let's not dismiss him by comparing him to two other players that have nothing to do with his playing ability. At minimum he's guy worth keeping an eye on.

:twocents:

Tex

All of those guys you mentioned...I don't want any of them as my FF RB. Just sayin. CJ4.24 went to East Carolina, iirc, which, iirc, is D1. So...not D1AA or FCS.

The point is that others have gone to small schools and they have done ok. Flacco, Garcon and these guys come to mind. But I'm not going to dismiss someone before they are even given a chance to show what they can do. That's just crazy! Let him prove himself at the Shrine game or the Combine before we judge whether or not his NFL ready. Omon was mentioned and he's only been in the league for a year. I'm not telling anyone who they should draft, to each his own. But I'm sure there are some here who may consider him a possible sleeper as I do. With that being said I'll watch him tomorrow and see how he does. I don't think he received an invite to the combine so I'll look at other sources and see if and where he gets drafted and go from there.

 

[BuckeyeArt]

To put up numbers like this you're doing something right. I saw a video in which he caught a player from behind after a failed two point conversion. He ran 90+ yds to tackled this guy at about the 1yd line and caught him without an angle. He has real chance to make something happen.

Before we get carried away here, lets compare him to the last two great DII RBs to come out.Danny Woodhead 1135-7871-6.9ypc-101TD

Xavier Omon 1244-7177-5.7ypc-91TD

Joique Bell 1181-6794-5.75ypc-88TD

Overall, he's been less impressive (for a career) than two marginal NFL talents. Now I know, stats aren't everything, but let's keep this in perspective.

One thing to keep in mind is where others (scouts) have had those guys ranked. DraftScouts had Woodhead as the 28th and Omon as the 29th ranked RBs in 2008. Bernard Scott, the last Harlon Hill winner, rose to 20th last year after a good showing in the 'Texas vs the Nation' game. Bell is currently ranked 11th, with a 4th-5th round grade. I've got to believe doing well in the Senior Bowl is more meaningful than the Texas/Nation game and that would likely boost him higher in the rankings. He's definitely worth watching.

 

[t_gunslinger]

:sehorn:

 

[EBF]

Senior Bowl weigh-ins:

http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Sen...ts/Weigh-In.php

Some of the more interesting results:

Joique Bell - 5'11" 223 pounds

Anthony Dixon - 6'1" 245 pounds

Stafon Johnson - 5'11" 214 pounds

Lonyae Miller - 5'11" 220 pounds

Charles Scott - 5'11" 239

Ben Tate - 5'11" 214 pounds

Several of these guys are right in the 5'9-6'0" 210-230 pound wheelhouse that I consider "ideal" size. Now we'll see how they practice. I think Stafon Johnson is the best of this bunch, but a guy like Miller or Bell could emerge as a nice sleeper.

Danario Alexander - 6'5" 221 pounds

Mardy Gilyard - 6'0" 179 pounds

Dexter McCluster - 5'8" 165 pounds

Alexander weighed in a little heavier than I expected. He looks like a beanpole on the field, but 221 is a decent weight for him. I still think he's too long-legged and straight line to separate from pro corners. Gilyard's 179 pounds is disappointing. At that height you would want a weight of 190+, particularly since he's a little bit older than the average prospect. He needs to run a fast 40 time and practice well here. McCluster is slightly taller than expected at 5'8", but still very light at only 165 pounds. I see him as a utility player who lacks a true NFL position.

 

[kremenull]

Also,Junior - 218-1208-12Sophomore - 289-1514-25Freshman - 348-2159-22 Wow, that's nearly 5,000 yds

Never heard of him until recently. Impressive physique and stats will get him a serious look by NFL teams for sure. One thing I noticed in the clips is that he definitely must lower his pad level when he runs, way too upright of a running style that will not cut it with faster NFL defenders and tighter creases to run through. "Get Low" my Bro!....

 

[kremenull]

Senior Bowl weigh-ins:

http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Sen...ts/Weigh-In.php

Some of the more interesting results:

Joique Bell - 5'11" 223 pounds

Anthony Dixon - 6'1" 245 pounds

Stafon Johnson - 5'11" 214 pounds

Lonyae Miller - 5'11" 220 pounds

Charles Scott - 5'11" 239

Ben Tate - 5'11" 214 pounds

Several of these guys are right in the 5'9-6'0" 210-230 pound wheelhouse that I consider "ideal" size. Now we'll see how they practice. I think Stafon Johnson is the best of this bunch, but a guy like Miller or Bell could emerge as a nice sleeper.

Danario Alexander - 6'5" 221 pounds

Mardy Gilyard - 6'0" 179 pounds

Dexter McCluster - 5'8" 165 pounds

Alexander weighed in a little heavier than I expected. He looks like a beanpole on the field, but 221 is a decent weight for him. I still think he's too long-legged and straight line to separate from pro corners. Gilyard's 179 pounds is disappointing. At that height you would want a weight of 190+, particularly since he's a little bit older than the average prospect. He needs to run a fast 40 time and practice well here. McCluster is slightly taller than expected at 5'8", but still very light at only 165 pounds. I see him as a utility player who lacks a true NFL position.

Gilyard looks like a marginal NFL player to me, even before this disappointing weigh-in. I don't think he is particularly fast either for such a flyweight. Guys of his size should run a very low 4.4 if not sub 4.40. I think this kid might clock in the 4.5s. McCluster at such a tiny size will be nothing more than a niche player, return man and slot WR role (at best), probably 4th on the depth chart on most teams. Alexander?......hmmmmmmI'm rooting for Stafon to make it in the NFL, what a tough road he has had to endure. Tate, Miller, and Bell all could surprise....

What about the QBs? What did Tebow aka "Te-Slow" measure at? He'd probably be a better pitcher than QB with that windup delivery of his....

 

[coolnerd]

Tebow was just under 6'3" and at 236.

 

[IMSports007]

I'm in a 12 team dynasty league.

We do a 5 round draft with the 1st 2 rounds being only rookies and 3-5 anybody.

We have a 32 player roster with a taxi squad for 3 rookies.

In the upcoming draft I have the following picks:

1.2

1.5

1.9

1.10

1.11

3.12

4.11

4.12

What players do you think will be available and who should I look at taking?

I know running back is a need!

We start 1 qb, 2 rb, 3 wr/te, 1 k, 2 lb, 2 dl, 2 db

My roster is:

Leinart, Matt ARI QB

Romo, Tony DAL QB

Rosenfels, Sage MIN QB

Warner, Kurt ARI QB

Young, Vince TEN QB

Addai, Joseph IND RB

Bush, Reggie NOS RB

Davis, James CLE RB

Lewis, Jamal CLE RB

Aromashodu, Devin CHI WR

Cribbs, Josh CLE WR

Doucet, Early ARI WR

Gaffney, Jabar DEN WR

Harvin, Percy MIN WR

Holmes, Santonio PIT WR

Morgan, Josh SFO WR

Murphy, Louis OAK WR

Williams, Roy DAL WR

Davis, Vernon SFO TE

Gonzalez, Tony ATL TE

Laurent Robinson STL WR

Scobee, Josh JAC PK 89.0

Rogers, Shaun CLE DT

Harvey, Derrick JAC DE

Ogunleye, Adewale CHI DE

Cooper, Stephen SDC LB

Greenway, Chad MIN LB

Jackson, D'Qwell CLE LB

Ryans, DeMeco HOU LB

Harper, Roman NOS S

Kenny Phillips NYG S

Landry, Dawan BAL S

Pollard, Bernard HOU S

Whitner, Donte BUF S

I have to drop 2 in the next 2 weeks and it looks like Warner and JLewis will be the 2 drops.

 

[Instinctive]

I couldn't say until the draft shakes it out, but it looks like you know you need RBs. Perhaps all 4 of your first picks. Then I'd grab a DE at some point and a QB as well. Depends on where the QBs go as to which one I would want.

 

[BigTex]

I'm in a 12 team dynasty league.We do a 5 round draft with the 1st 2 rounds being only rookies and 3-5 anybody.We have a 32 player roster with a taxi squad for 3 rookies.In the upcoming draft I have the following picks:1.21.51.91.101.113.124.114.12What players do you think will be available and who should I look at taking?I know running back is a need!We start 1 qb, 2 rb, 3 wr/te, 1 k, 2 lb, 2 dl, 2 dbMy roster is:Leinart, Matt ARI QBRomo, Tony DAL QBRosenfels, Sage MIN QBWarner, Kurt ARI QB Young, Vince TEN QBAddai, Joseph IND RBBush, Reggie NOS RBDavis, James CLE RBLewis, Jamal CLE RBAromashodu, Devin CHI WRCribbs, Josh CLE WRDoucet, Early ARI WRGaffney, Jabar DEN WRHarvin, Percy MIN WRHolmes, Santonio PIT WRMorgan, Josh SFO WRMurphy, Louis OAK WRWilliams, Roy DAL WRDavis, Vernon SFO TEGonzalez, Tony ATL TELaurent Robinson STL WRScobee, Josh JAC PK 89.0Rogers, Shaun CLE DTHarvey, Derrick JAC DEOgunleye, Adewale CHI DECooper, Stephen SDC LBGreenway, Chad MIN LBJackson, D'Qwell CLE LBRyans, DeMeco HOU LBHarper, Roman NOS SKenny Phillips NYG SLandry, Dawan BAL SPollard, Bernard HOU SWhitner, Donte BUF S I have to drop 2 in the next 2 weeks and it looks like Warner and JLewis will be the 2 drops.

Wrong forum.