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the ravens did this to the vikings in 2003. and teams got screwed.fast forward to now.bears did not try to #### anybody. the Angelo messed up, nothing happened, everybody got what they wanted.the NFL need to fix the trade process. maybe if they get more money they can fix this.
Oh, so two wrongs, now make a right then. Cool.
UNless you work for the bears organization, I don't know how you can just authoritatively declare that the bears didn't intentionally f the ravens. This is how Lombardi described the trade process. You have one guy in the trade room, who's job it is to call trades into the league. All he does basically is sit by a phone, waiting to call trades in. So you as a gm are on the phone with the ravaens gm, you agree on the trade, and then when you get off the phone with the ravens, you tell your trade guy to call the trade in, and it's done. There isn't some long, complex process or something. It seems much more likely to me, that the bears got cold feet about the trade, after they agreed to it, and opted intentionally not to call it in. Their intention may not have been to f the ravens, but that was certainly the result, that they would have known would happen.I'm not saying it's impossible that the bears were just incompetent. But the bears have done how many draft day trades during the angelo era.... 20? 30? They know the procedure, he's not a first year gm.
I don't disagree with most of what you said, but to think the bears organization should have "known" what The chiefs in particular were going to do with their pick is rediculus. The chiefs needed a tackle as well and I think most people were surprised that they passed on carimi, who was a steal where the bears got him. Had angelo not (tried) to trade up, he probably felt that carimi would have been taken by k.c. And had the trade gone through and we never knew that k.c. prefered baldwin, most would assume angelo had made a necessary trade to get carimi
Has it ever been made clear to why he never called the trade in? Did he want to make it but just messed up or did he change his mind? If he changed his mind, why?
Would like to see Holmes, but know the Bears are too cheap to go after him. Aside from Holmes, I'd go for Sims Walker. Edwards has hands like rocks. They don't need that guy.
YesSo true
They signed a wr dane sanzenbacher who is supposed to be pretty good (gruden compared him to jerry rice...) And he was supposedly pursued by 25 teams yesterday and he took less money to play for.martz. From what I read he is a prototypical slot reciever for.martz's system. Good.route.runner with good hands but not the most physically gifted.They also signed alex linnenkohl, center, who was graded pretty high as well. I think it was a bit of a surprise that he didnt get drafted, but he is a little undersized. It looks like the bears want to groom him to take over for kruetz in a year or 2.Overall, it seems like the bears grabbed a lot of "value" guys that.were expected to get drafted but didnt for whatever reason (mostly undersized or doesnt fit into a traditional role, it seems). I think I read last night that, after signing rookies the bears will have 80 players on their roster. Not bad a the first day of being.able to talk to guys. Hopefully they nab a good.free agent.or 2.
their grading system is a little confusing. Is slim worse than long shot?Holmes is off the market. Top WR FAs left are Rice, Edwards, and Steve Smith. Know who we're talking to? Brad Smith.
aromashadu didnt even play last year. He was so bad, and lacks versatility so much that martz benched him. He has played 4 decent games in his career. He is no #1 and he was never the bears best wr. I really think that knox and bennett are better than they get credit for. Remember that they are young players that were learning a new, complicated offense. Both are breakout candidates this year, I think. I would love the bears to sign someone, but if I have to choose between sidney rice and signing a couple linemen that can keep.cutler upright, I pick the linemen. I think trying to get roy williams for next to nothing would be a good move.
Umm, what?
So Steve Smith was never a #1 WR?'Clifford said:
I don't know wth he is talking about. Has to be an alias.
I don't see why we won't talk to Plax at this point. Both his former teams are.@DJ I hear you. We are once again sitting on our hands and being passive rather than active. We've already lost our chances at FAs who could have significantly improved our team in key areas. The only hope I am holding on to is that they make a huge offer to Namdi, but that is a very, very slim hope at this point.Most likely Ocho and Edwards get locked up today and we'll be looking at swan songs in Owens and Moss, or middling crap like Brad Smith.
Angelo's been busy working on that big punter deal. I'm sure now that he's done there he'll consider doing something else.
The sad thing is that Roy Williams helps the receiver group. But you have now lost Olsen and his production. Roy Williams probably couldn't be a starter on very many teams in the NFL, but for the Bears he could be a starter. It just points out this sad state of affairs. Then you look at the offensive line. Carimi is a great addition, but the rest of the line is mediocre at best. This feels like Angelo is trying to drive this team off a cliff.'RBM said:
JA has money against the Bears this season.
JA and Martz both are convinced they are smarter than everyone else, despite all the evidence to the contrary.
