***2011 Chicago Bears Regular Season Thread*** (1 Viewer)

[tenaka]

Gee, thanks

I found a list of 200 yard rushers, but was too lazy to look up each individual game to see the team's TOP.

 

[flapgreen]

Forte second in the league in total yards. Through four weeks, Wes Welker has more yards than the Bears top six receivers combined.

 

[flapgreen]

Now Wooten out with a broken hand. Sheesh! This guy is made of glass.

 

[candymanvandyfan]

BEARS MAKE MOVE AT WIDE RECEIVER!!!

Never fear, Max Komar(?) is here...



http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-free-agent-wr-tweets-hes-headed-to-bears-20111009,0,4087922.story

 

[DoubleG]

I'm curious if anyone knows when the last time a team ran for over 200 yards and still managed to lose the time of possession battle. I tried looking for this information but its not exactly condusive to a google search.

You are always looking for the lone storm cloud on an otherwise beautiful day. You most loads of fun at parties."This dip is delicious....I'll bet they run out"

 

[flapgreen]

BEARS MAKE MOVE AT WIDE RECEIVER!!!Never fear, Max Komar(?) is here... http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-free-agent-wr-tweets-hes-headed-to-bears-20111009,0,4087922.story

 

[Sconch]

BEARS MAKE MOVE AT WIDE RECEIVER!!!Never fear, Max Komar(?) is here... http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-free-agent-wr-tweets-hes-headed-to-bears-20111009,0,4087922.story

"The 5-11, 202-pound Komar played with Nathan Enderle, the Bears’ third quarterback, at Idaho."This changes everything!

 

[candymanvandyfan]

Here is a 2012 Chicago Mock Draft of what would help the Bears:

Rd # 1: Alshon Jeffery, WR

Rd # 2: Kelechi Osemele, OG or Cordy Glenn, OG

Rd # 3: Ben Jones, OG

Rd # 3: William Vlachos, C

Rd # 4: Kevin Zeitler, OG

Rd # 5: Tysyn Hartman, CB

Rd # 6: Chris Rainey, RB

Rd # 7: Miles Burris, ILB

Here is a 2012 Chicago Mock Draft, based on what I think Angelo will do:

Rd # 1: Mark Barron, S (Every draft has a safety)

Rd # 2: Casey Hayward, CB (He's from Vandy)

Rd # 3: Kendall Wright, WR (He's undersized and "fits the Martz system")

Rd # 3: Kyle Wilber, DE (He doesn't weigh much and once jumped over a pool)

Rd # 4: Chris Marve, LB (Will help on special teams.)

Rd # 5: Case Keenum, QB (you've never heard of him and Enderle hasn't panned out. Martz REALLY likes him)

Rd # 6: Frank Alexander, DE (You can never have enough defensive linemen)

Rd # 7: Matt McCants, OL (There would have been an uprising if we didn't select one offensive lineman, and Tice likes this guy because he wears size 87 shoes and is a "big guy" who likes to push people. WE hope he'll "turn out" kind of like Webb. He's a guy we'll develop.)

 

[flapgreen]

BEARS MAKE MOVE AT WIDE RECEIVER!!!Never fear, Max Komar(?) is here... http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-free-agent-wr-tweets-hes-headed-to-bears-20111009,0,4087922.story

"The 5-11, 202-pound Komar played with Nathan Enderle, the Bears’ third quarterback, at Idaho."This changes everything!

Championship!

 

[tenaka]

I'm curious if anyone knows when the last time a team ran for over 200 yards and still managed to lose the time of possession battle. I tried looking for this information but its not exactly condusive to a google search.

You are always looking for the lone storm cloud on an otherwise beautiful day. You most loads of fun at parties."This dip is delicious....I'll bet they run out"

Sorry.Rah rah rah! Yay Bears! The offense is fixed now, because we beat Carolina!

 

[DoubleG]

I'm curious if anyone knows when the last time a team ran for over 200 yards and still managed to lose the time of possession battle. I tried looking for this information but its not exactly condusive to a google search.

You are always looking for the lone storm cloud on an otherwise beautiful day. You most loads of fun at parties."This dip is delicious....I'll bet they run out"

Sorry.Rah rah rah! Yay Bears! The offense is fixed now, because we beat Carolina!

Because that is exactly what everyone said.Most agree the offense is mediocre at best - mainly because they have to run an offense behind a an o-line that run blocks poorly and pass blocks even worse.

In the Carolina game, Chris Williams actually pulled AND blocked someone all on the same play - which was an improvement over the previous weeks. There is talk that the Bears will sit Frank Ohmygod this week...which is another plus (I believe that is called "Addition by subtraction"). If nothing else, the Bears showed two things last week:

1) They can actually run with success occasionally.

2) They will run.

Both show some meovement (albiet it baby steps) in the right direction. If Martz is willing (or forced) to run the ball more that will make their passing game more effective, keep defenses honest and keep their defense off the field - which was the recipe after the bye that got them to the NFC Championship game. Will they make it that far this year? Probabaly not. Heck, they'll be hard pressed to make the playoffs.

But noting improvement on the offense (eve a little) is hardly stating that the "offense is all fixed". BTW, in case you missed it, Carolina gave the Saints all they could handle Sunday. The Panthers are underrated.

 

[flapgreen]

I can't believe how bad the defense has been too. Wtf

 

[flapgreen]

DG>Omifail starting at RT.

 

[flapgreen]

JA Genius

Jerry Angelo on Matt Forte: "I think we did our very best"

By Sean Jensen on October 10, 2011 6:01 PM | No Comments | No TrackBacks

Bears general manager Jerry Angelo made clear that running back Matt Forte was the team's No. 1 priority before this season.

But, after not being able to work out a new deal, Angelo didn't sound like a man ready to initiate another round of talks anytime soon.

"There really is nothing new," Angelo said before Monday's kickoff against the Detroit Lions. "I think we did our very best.

"Right now, our focus is on the season."

Angelo made clear that the Bears wanted to sign Forte to an extension, because of his talent, so his strong start doesn't surprise him.

Last week, Forte's agent Adisa Bakari told me that the longer this process drags on, the more difficult a new deal becomes.

"We've stated from the very beginning that the longer we wait, the more difficult and complicated it becomes," Bakari told me. "Matt, to date, is performing at an ultra-elite level, and that's an indisputable reality."

 

[flapgreen]

Martz has a plan!

Lance Louis’ position against Lions is latest riddle for Bears O-line

Here’s something you never want to hear about your team’s offensive line in Week 5 of an NFL season:

‘‘We haven’t decided where we’re going to play any of our guys yet,’’ Bears offensive coordinator Mike Martz said after practice Thursday. ‘‘We’ll figure that out by the time we line up, though.’’

Maybe the Bears are just playing it coy to keep their opponents guessing — as if the Detroit Lions’ preparation for the Bears is going to be compromised because they don’t know whether Lance Louis or Chris Spencer is going to start at right guard on Monday night at Ford Field.

Regardless, anytime it’s not obvious who’s starting at any position on the offensive line, it’s generally not a good thing. Whether Johnny Knox or Roy Williams starts at split end doesn’t make a big difference. But if you don’t know whether Louis or Frank Omiyale is starting at right tackle, you’re almost assured of not operating at peak efficiency.

‘‘You’d love to have the same five guys in the same five spots,’’ offensive line coach Mike Tice said. ‘‘And I’ll bet if you look around the league, the teams that don’t have the injuries are the lines that are playing better.’’

Therein lies the challenge for the Bears (2-2) in a critical NFC North game against the unbeaten Lions (4-0) on the road and in a domed stadium before a fired-up crowd on ‘‘Monday Night Football.’’ In their fifth game of the season, they could have their fourth different starting combination on the offensive line.

Louis, who started at right guard in the opener against the Atlanta Falcons but suffered an ankle injury and missed two games, could start at right guard in place of Spencer, who broke his right hand against the Carolina Panthers last week. Or Louis could start at right tackle in place of Omiyale, who has started the last two games in place of injured rookie Gabe Carimi but was replaced by Louis at the start of the second half against the Panthers.

‘‘Stay tuned,’’ Tice said when asked if Omiyale would start against the Lions. ‘‘It’s a national-TV game. Everyone’s going to find out at the same time.

‘‘We’re working some combinations. I’ll sit down with [coach]Lovie [smith], and I’ll suggest a lineup that gives us the best opportunity. We don’t want to count [spencer] out. We’re not going to count out Frank and Lance because they’ve both started. We’ll get our best five guys out there, and we’ll have at it.’’

Louis, a seventh-round pick out of San Diego State in 2009,

seems to be the key. His best position is right guard, but if Spencer can play with the broken hand, Louis might have to fill a greater need at tackle.

‘‘Lance played tight end and tackle in college,’’ Tice said. ‘‘We know he can run. We know he’s athletic. He put 10 guys on the ground in 41 plays last week. He’s playing with great physical presence and confidence — more confidence inside than outside. But with us being banged up . . . we have to go with what’s best for us. And that might be [Louis] playing in a spot [he’s not used to], but a spot where he’s going to help us.’’

‘‘It’s my job to be prepared for anything coach throws at me,’’ the 6-3, 320-pound Louis said.

The offensive line has been average at best for much of the season. But considering there have been in-game chances in three of the four games, it probably could have been worse.

‘‘Mike’s done an unbelievable job of game time managing, getting guys lined up and moving this guy here and that guy there,’’ Martz said. ‘‘You’ve got to appreciate what he’s going through. He’s done a remarkable job with this group.’’

 

[Christo]

I smell a win!

 

[tenaka]

I'm curious if anyone knows when the last time a team ran for over 200 yards and still managed to lose the time of possession battle. I tried looking for this information but its not exactly condusive to a google search.

You are always looking for the lone storm cloud on an otherwise beautiful day. You most loads of fun at parties."This dip is delicious....I'll bet they run out"

Sorry.Rah rah rah! Yay Bears! The offense is fixed now, because we beat Carolina!

Because that is exactly what everyone said.Most agree the offense is mediocre at best - mainly because they have to run an offense behind a an o-line that run blocks poorly and pass blocks even worse.

In the Carolina game, Chris Williams actually pulled AND blocked someone all on the same play - which was an improvement over the previous weeks. There is talk that the Bears will sit Frank Ohmygod this week...which is another plus (I believe that is called "Addition by subtraction"). If nothing else, the Bears showed two things last week:

1) They can actually run with success occasionally.

2) They will run.

Both show some meovement (albiet it baby steps) in the right direction. If Martz is willing (or forced) to run the ball more that will make their passing game more effective, keep defenses honest and keep their defense off the field - which was the recipe after the bye that got them to the NFC Championship game. Will they make it that far this year? Probabaly not. Heck, they'll be hard pressed to make the playoffs.

But noting improvement on the offense (eve a little) is hardly stating that the "offense is all fixed". BTW, in case you missed it, Carolina gave the Saints all they could handle Sunday. The Panthers are underrated.

Wow. You really are worked up over this aren't you, Captain Overreaction.Guess what?

I wasn't raining on anyone's parade. I wasn't going out of my way to find negative. I actually just honestly thought it was odd and was genuinely wondering if anyone had herd the answer. Its the kind of odd stat that I can see some reporter digging up and slinging out.

But how dare I say anything that isn't completely positive.

 

[RBM]

Disgraceful and embarrassing performance on the national stage. Seriously, what the hell is it going to take for the McCaskeys and Teddy Phillips to hold Angelo accountable for his failures? I mean...this looks like perhaps the worst o-line Ive ever seen. Im so sick of it...year after year and nothing ever changes.

And now the defense sucks. But Im too tired and pissed off to even begin with that.

####

 

[flapgreen]

I shouldn't be so negative in Bears threads from now on. Time for me to fess up and admit I was wrong. I feel really embarrassed about all of the things I said about their offseason moves now.

 

[flapgreen]

Disgraceful and embarrassing performance on the national stage. Seriously, what the hell is it going to take for the McCaskeys and Teddy Phillips to hold Angelo accountable for his failures? I mean...this looks like perhaps the worst o-line Ive ever seen. Im so sick of it...year after year and nothing ever changes. And now the defense sucks. But Im too tired and pissed off to even begin with that.####

Defense couldn't carry us forever. I'm not even upset with them. They have been carrying this team for years while the offense has pissed away any chance of winning most years. Ah #### it!!! :shotgun:

 

[Widbil83]

It's almost unbelievable how bad the o-line is. I know Carimi is hurt....but this is far worse than last year. They should just cut 3 or 4 guys on the o-line and sign guys who are out there or on other practice squads. I'm serious.

 

[twistd]

It's almost unbelievable how bad the o-line is. I know Carimi is hurt....but this is far worse than last year. They should just cut 3 or 4 guys on the o-line and sign guys who are out there or on other practice squads. I'm serious.

I think they need to fire Mike Tice too. He has to take responsibility for this. They need to start by firing him to let the players know they are serious about making changes.

 

[Limp Ditka]

It's almost unbelievable how bad the o-line is. I know Carimi is hurt....but this is far worse than last year. They should just cut 3 or 4 guys on the o-line and sign guys who are out there or on other practice squads. I'm serious.

I think they need to fire Mike Tice too. He has to take responsibility for this. They need to start by firing him to let the players know they are serious about making changes.

Yep. Mike Tice. That's where the problem lies

Angelo kicked off his first draft for the Bears by drafting two offensive lineman in the 2001 draft. Guard Mike Gandy was taken in the third round and guard Bernard Robertson in the fifth round. Gandy was an adequate guard for a few years, while Robertson provided nothing.In 2002, the Bears chose left tackle Marc Colombo in the first round. Colombo showed a lot of ability and looked like he may become a fixture at left tackle for years. It was not to be. Columbo suffered a devastating injury his rookie year, dislocating his patella and suffering femoral nerve damage. In a move I still don't understand, the Bears basically paid for his rehabbing to get him back to playing shape. Eventually, he recovered, and then the Bears released him. Colombo has made a nice career for himself and I actually think this was a very good pick by Angelo. Injuries derailed his career with the Bears.Terrence Metcalf was also taken in the same draft as Colombo in 2002 as a third-round pick. He had a very disappointing career with the Bears and started only on occasion.The Colombo injury must have shook Angelo a little bit and I can't say I blame him. In 2003, the Bears picked only one offensive lineman, despite having 12 overall picks in this draft. They chose guard Bryan Anderson, a seventh-round selection. He had no impact.With eight total picks in the 2004 NFL draft, Angelo decided not to draft any offensive linemen.With six total picks in the 2005 NFL draft, Angelo again decided not to draft any offensive linemen.In 2006, the Bears chose guard Tyler Reed in the sixth round. He had no impact. This is getting ridiculous.In 2007, Angelo picked guard Josh Beekman in the fourth round. He was groomed to potentially be a replacement for center Olin Kreutz, but he never made that leap people in the organization thought he would. He was eventually released after having a disappointing career with the Bears. Also in the 2007 draft, the Bears selected tackle Aaron Brandt. He made no impact at all.In 2008, Angelo took a risk and selected tackle Chris Williams with the 14th overall selection. Williams had a known neck injury going into the draft. I did not like this pick from the minute it was made (like Benson). You just can't take a left tackle prospect in the first round with neck issues as severe as were being reported. As it turns out, injuries haven't really affected the way Williams has performed. He just isn't very good. Williams has been bounced around on the line a lot and is currently the starting guard for the Bears. You don't draft a lineman 14th overall in the draft to be a guard. A major disappointment, but not really unexpected.Also in 2008, Angelo took a couple of fliers on late-round offensive line picks that didn't work out. He selected guard Chester Adams and tackle Kirk Barton, both in the seventh round. As usual, nothing productive came out of them in terms of playing time.The 2009 draft brought guard Lance Louis, a seventh-round selection. Louis looks like he can play a bit, but needs to stay healthy. He is always banged up with an injury and is losing valuable experience. This is by far Jerry Angelo's best late-round pick on the offensive line that might have a chance to stick around at least. A sad state of affairs.In 2010, Angelo selected J'Marcus Webb in the seventh round. Similar to Lance Louis in that he is one of the few late picks on the offensive line by Angelo that has made the team, let alone play. The jury is out on Webb. Time will tell. I would put him back at right tackle, where he played last year. he looked to be developing more there than he is at left tackle.2011 brought what I think will be Jerry Angelo's best offensive line pick in his entire 11 years, Gabe Carimi. I was hoping Carimi would fall to the Bears on draft day and he did. While he has made some rookie mistakes and is currently injured, Carimi looks like a future Pro Bowler. This will be a great pick. Carimi already looks like the most accomplished player on the Bears offensive line. i don't know if that is a good thing or a bad thing.

Fire the real problem.

 

[flapgreen]

It's almost unbelievable how bad the o-line is. I know Carimi is hurt....but this is far worse than last year. They should just cut 3 or 4 guys on the o-line and sign guys who are out there or on other practice squads. I'm serious.

It's not unbelievable. They did next to nothing to upgrade. Basically, they merely insulted everyones intelligence and acted like it was all ok and the line just needed another season to "Gell". Most people knew that was bull####, and the offense is turning out like most extpected it would. Now, as usual, Martz and JA are left looking like morons again, which they are. Also, if Tice was so great, couldn't he at least make the line look better than worst in the league by a wide margin? With even the worst talent in the league, a great OL coach could make them better than worst in the league.

 

[flapgreen]

It's almost unbelievable how bad the o-line is. I know Carimi is hurt....but this is far worse than last year. They should just cut 3 or 4 guys on the o-line and sign guys who are out there or on other practice squads. I'm serious.

I think they need to fire Mike Tice too. He has to take responsibility for this. They need to start by firing him to let the players know they are serious about making changes.

But they aren't serious...

 

[Limp Ditka]

It's almost unbelievable how bad the o-line is. I know Carimi is hurt....but this is far worse than last year. They should just cut 3 or 4 guys on the o-line and sign guys who are out there or on other practice squads. I'm serious.

It's not unbelievable. They did next to nothing to upgrade. Basically, they merely insulted everyones intelligence and acted like it was all ok and the line just needed another season to "Gell". Most people knew that was bull####, and the offense is turning out like most extpected it would. Now, as usual, Martz and JA are left looking like morons again, which they are. Also, if Tice was so great, couldn't he at least make the line look better than worst in the league by a wide margin? With even the worst talent in the league, a great OL coach could make them better than worst in the league.

An OL coach can't call plays that have RBs and TEs giving a little help to the tackles. That ####### Martz doesn't care about his QB getting peeled off the carpet over and over again. When they're down they're going 5 wide, empty backfield just about every damn play until one of 3 things happens. Clock runs out, Bears catch up, Bears run out of QBs

 

[flapgreen]

It's almost unbelievable how bad the o-line is. I know Carimi is hurt....but this is far worse than last year. They should just cut 3 or 4 guys on the o-line and sign guys who are out there or on other practice squads. I'm serious.

It's not unbelievable. They did next to nothing to upgrade. Basically, they merely insulted everyones intelligence and acted like it was all ok and the line just needed another season to "Gell". Most people knew that was bull####, and the offense is turning out like most extpected it would. Now, as usual, Martz and JA are left looking like morons again, which they are. Also, if Tice was so great, couldn't he at least make the line look better than worst in the league by a wide margin? With even the worst talent in the league, a great OL coach could make them better than worst in the league.

An OL coach can't call plays that have RBs and TEs giving a little help to the tackles. That ####### Martz doesn't care about his QB getting peeled off the carpet over and over again. When they're down they're going 5 wide, empty backfield just about every damn play until one of 3 things happens. Clock runs out, Bears catch up, Bears run out of QBs

I'm in complete agreement with all of this, but when an O-line is performing as bad as this one, the O-line coach has to take some of the blame, even if it's not the majority. He's not a great coach either. Martz is simply much, much worse. The entire team will be set back for years because of Martz. We won't be getting a top pass catching TE for a few years, most likely. That's something that most of the league has proven you need at this point. Instead, we get rid of ours for next to nothing, and get guys to replace him that are an embarrassment to the position. What did Davis have on the first drive? 3 false starts? Inexcusable. He sucks. He can't block worth a damn. He barely catches any passes. Isn't that the point Martz was focusing on? Getting a TE that could block well? Now we have neither, and our O-line and WRs are worse than ever too.

 

[Sconch]

I think they need to fire Mike Tice.

Hello, exactly. At least after tonight's showing.

 

[flapgreen]

I think they need to fire Mike Tice.

Hello, exactly. At least after tonight's showing.

And last season.

 

[Widbil83]

It's almost unbelievable how bad the o-line is. I know Carimi is hurt....but this is far worse than last year. They should just cut 3 or 4 guys on the o-line and sign guys who are out there or on other practice squads. I'm serious.

It's not unbelievable. They did next to nothing to upgrade. Basically, they merely insulted everyones intelligence and acted like it was all ok and the line just needed another season to "Gell". Most people knew that was bull####, and the offense is turning out like most extpected it would. Now, as usual, Martz and JA are left looking like morons again, which they are. Also, if Tice was so great, couldn't he at least make the line look better than worst in the league by a wide margin? With even the worst talent in the league, a great OL coach could make them better than worst in the league.

An OL coach can't call plays that have RBs and TEs giving a little help to the tackles. That ####### Martz doesn't care about his QB getting peeled off the carpet over and over again. When they're down they're going 5 wide, empty backfield just about every damn play until one of 3 things happens. Clock runs out, Bears catch up, Bears run out of QBs

Watching Martz think this is still the greatest show on turf or something with his calls is painful. The line is verrrry bad, easily the worst in the league. They just aren't quick and good enough to handle all his crazy shifts and protection packages. The wr's are small and basically bad. He traded away the great TE. It's pretty much Cutler and Forte vs the world.Serious question, besides Cutler and Forte would anybody else on the entire Bears Offense be a starter on any other team?

 

[Limp Ditka]

It's almost unbelievable how bad the o-line is. I know Carimi is hurt....but this is far worse than last year. They should just cut 3 or 4 guys on the o-line and sign guys who are out there or on other practice squads. I'm serious.

It's not unbelievable. They did next to nothing to upgrade. Basically, they merely insulted everyones intelligence and acted like it was all ok and the line just needed another season to "Gell". Most people knew that was bull####, and the offense is turning out like most extpected it would. Now, as usual, Martz and JA are left looking like morons again, which they are. Also, if Tice was so great, couldn't he at least make the line look better than worst in the league by a wide margin? With even the worst talent in the league, a great OL coach could make them better than worst in the league.

An OL coach can't call plays that have RBs and TEs giving a little help to the tackles. That ####### Martz doesn't care about his QB getting peeled off the carpet over and over again. When they're down they're going 5 wide, empty backfield just about every damn play until one of 3 things happens. Clock runs out, Bears catch up, Bears run out of QBs

Watching Martz think this is still the greatest show on turf or something with his calls is painful. The line is verrrry bad, easily the worst in the league. They just aren't quick and good enough to handle all his crazy shifts and protection packages. The wr's are small and basically bad. He traded away the great TE. It's pretty much Cutler and Forte vs the world.Serious question, besides Cutler and Forte would anybody else on the entire Bears Offense be a starter on any other team?

Packers / Falcons on Sunday.Packers lose Clifton, have to reshuffle their offensive tackles. What happens on almost every play? The logical thing, a TE or a RB chipping on the DEs as they release. And I think they were still down 14 at the time. When were the Bears down 14 in this game? Oh that's right, never.

 

[SmoovySmoov]

Bears joining the Cubs in full on rebuilding mode. Can't say I didn't feel it coming, though. At least I wasn't blindsided by it.

 

[D.J.]

It's almost unbelievable how bad the o-line is. I know Carimi is hurt....but this is far worse than last year. They should just cut 3 or 4 guys on the o-line and sign guys who are out there or on other practice squads. I'm serious.

It's not unbelievable. They did next to nothing to upgrade. Basically, they merely insulted everyones intelligence and acted like it was all ok and the line just needed another season to "Gell". Most people knew that was bull####, and the offense is turning out like most extpected it would. Now, as usual, Martz and JA are left looking like morons again, which they are. Also, if Tice was so great, couldn't he at least make the line look better than worst in the league by a wide margin? With even the worst talent in the league, a great OL coach could make them better than worst in the league.

A first round pick is next to nothing?While I still have problems with your outlook on things (seriously, you depress me, man. Have a beer, watch a funny show, maybe do some exercise or something. Let loose). Clearly the team looks pretty terrible. Its beyond a lack of talent at this point. upwards of 9 false starts is not a lack.of talent, its a lack of focus and a lack of caring. Couple that with their lack of talent and its a "recipe for disaster..." With that said, the defense really choked by giving up big plays. The.bears defense SHOULD carry the team. They invest a lot.more.in the defense than they do the offense, so more.should be expected of them. Giving up huge runs to best is bad. Merriweather is nothing but a thug. On a side.note, can we stop talking.about olsen like he was a pro bowler? Hes a decent player, but not the stud he was supposed.to.be after being taken in the early 1st round. Is davis a down grade? Yep. But thats not why this team isnt good. Put me on the "clean house" band wagon. GM down. Lets find a young forward thinking gm that will start putting.talent on the offense and a head coach that will take charge and show creativity...

 

[RBM]

I do like Lovie, but I think his time is up here and his scheme is not going to work enough for us to win it all, or at least consistently. I cant stand the turnover in NFL head coaches in this day and age, but I do think its time for management to start thinking about successors to Lovie and Angelo.

Hopefully Jeff Fisher will be at the top of their list

 

[SmoovySmoov]

I do like Lovie, but I think his time is up here and his scheme is not going to work enough for us to win it all, or at least consistently. I cant stand the turnover in NFL head coaches in this day and age, but I do think its time for management to start thinking about successors to Lovie and Angelo.

Hopefully Jeff Fisher Jon Gruden will be at the top of their list

Fixed that for you. The Bears need a fiery head coach that can chew some ### to get rid of dumb things like false starts and needless personal fouls (Brandon Meriwether, I'm looking at you.) Gruden is the man for this job, not Lovie 2.0, Jeff Fisher.

 

[Statcruncher]

I don't see how people are calling for Tice to be fired. He was touted as a good offensive line coach before he came here, why do people think that's changed? Does anyone really think a great coach can magically morph fringe-talent NFL starters into a solid O-line? I'm not saying Tice is a great coach, I'm saying lets give him something besides crap to cook with before I say he sucks as a chef. I'm guessing Tice is as ticked off about the talent he has to work with and spent the whole offseason begging management for upgrades while publicly towing the "we have good players" company line.

 

[RBM]

I do like Lovie, but I think his time is up here and his scheme is not going to work enough for us to win it all, or at least consistently. I cant stand the turnover in NFL head coaches in this day and age, but I do think its time for management to start thinking about successors to Lovie and Angelo.

Hopefully Jeff Fisher Jon Gruden will be at the top of their list

Fixed that for you. The Bears need a fiery head coach that can chew some ### to get rid of dumb things like false starts and needless personal fouls (Brandon Meriwether, I'm looking at you.) Gruden is the man for this job, not Lovie 2.0, Jeff Fisher.

I was calling for him last year for the same reasons, so I would have no problem with that.Also think he would do wonders for Cutler

 

[Wrigley]

What have the Lions really done so far? beat TB - good win, but it was week oneDecimated KC - big dealbarely beat the Vikings - again, big deal and they should have never been down so muchbarely beat the hobbled Cowboys - again, big deal (see Vikings)

beat a putrid Bears team Who have the Bears beaten is a bigger questionbeat a sub-par ATL team, but it was week one(so I guess it doesn't count)beaten a CAR team that may end up winning 3 games this year.

 

[tenaka]

I do like Lovie, but I think his time is up here and his scheme is not going to work enough for us to win it all, or at least consistently. I cant stand the turnover in NFL head coaches in this day and age, but I do think its time for management to start thinking about successors to Lovie and Angelo.Hopefully Jeff Fisher will be at the top of their list

I'm really more interested in a new GM than new HC. The absolute LAST thing I would want to see is to have ONLY Lovie replaced. Doing that would pretty much rubber stamp Angelo for another 3-5 years while they see if the coach is the problem instead of the talent level on the team. New GMs almost always bring in new HCs. So as long as we replace Angelo, the rest will fall into place... at lest if we replace him with someone who is any good.

 

[Power Monster]

I do like Lovie, but I think his time is up here and his scheme is not going to work enough for us to win it all, or at least consistently. I cant stand the turnover in NFL head coaches in this day and age, but I do think its time for management to start thinking about successors to Lovie and Angelo.Hopefully Jeff Fisher will be at the top of their list

I'm really more interested in a new GM than new HC. The absolute LAST thing I would want to see is to have ONLY Lovie replaced. Doing that would pretty much rubber stamp Angelo for another 3-5 years while they see if the coach is the problem instead of the talent level on the team. New GMs almost always bring in new HCs. So as long as we replace Angelo, the rest will fall into place... at lest if we replace him with someone who is any good.

I agree with this post. If the Bears do not fire Angelo you will see more ineptness on the way.

 

[BearDown54]

i hate to say it but i think as long as mccasky family are still owners i doubt we will see lovie or ESPECIALLY angelo leave anytime in the near future, if i'm not mistaken i think they both had contract extensions recently...

maybe if bears fans start boycotting games that can speed up the process

either way i hold no hope for this organization until both of those guys are gone.

well at least blackhawks season is under way

 

[tenaka]

i hate to say it but i think as long as mccasky family are still owners i doubt we will see lovie or ESPECIALLY angelo leave anytime in the near future, if i'm not mistaken i think they both had contract extensions recently...maybe if bears fans start boycotting games that can speed up the process either way i hold no hope for this organization until both of those guys are gone.well at least blackhawks season is under way

Looks like both are signed through 2013.

 

[flapgreen]

Bears elevated S Anthony Walters from the practice squad to the 53-man roster. Walters is an undrafted rookie free agent from Delaware. Makin Moves!!!!!!!

 

[flapgreen]

Forte leads the league yards from the line of scrimmage. Sign him JA, you stupid #######. Everyone is screaming for it. It's now a distraction because Jumpin Jerry made it one. The other players are calling for it. Just more incompetency from the front office.

I'd consider all of my options after the season if I was Forte. JA promising him to get it done before the season began and then lowballing him is a damn embarrassment. It has to be crossing Forte's mind to say forget it and test the free agent market. He will be in huge demand. Can't count out this scenario with the front office. Who knows.

 

[Reepicheep]

I do like Lovie, but I think his time is up here and his scheme is not going to work enough for us to win it all, or at least consistently. I cant stand the turnover in NFL head coaches in this day and age, but I do think its time for management to start thinking about successors to Lovie and Angelo.

Hopefully Jeff Fisher Jon Gruden will be at the top of their list

Fixed that for you. The Bears need a fiery head coach that can chew some ### to get rid of dumb things like false starts and needless personal fouls (Brandon Meriwether, I'm looking at you.) Gruden is the man for this job, not Lovie 2.0, Jeff Fisher.

I was calling for him last year for the same reasons, so I would have no problem with that.Also think he would do wonders for Cutler

I can get behind any plan that involves getting Gruden out of the booth, even if it means a more competitive NFC North.

 

[candymanvandyfan]

Bears elevated S Anthony Walters from the practice squad to the 53-man roster. Walters is an undrafted rookie free agent from Delaware. Makin Moves!!!!!!!

"Things are gonna change. I can feel it."--Beck Hansen

 

[D.J.]

Forte leads the league yards from the line of scrimmage. Sign him JA, you stupid #######. Everyone is screaming for it. It's now a distraction because Jumpin Jerry made it one. The other players are calling for it. Just more incompetency from the front office. I'd consider all of my options after the season if I was Forte. JA promising him to get it done before the season began and then lowballing him is a damn embarrassment. It has to be crossing Forte's mind to say forget it and test the free agent market. He will be in huge demand. Can't count out this scenario with the front office. Who knows.

forte can't just "test the waters." if forte walks away from.the table, the bears will just franchise him. Then if they still cant get a deal done, they will franchise him.again. By then, its likey a time will come when.forte has a bad end to a season or an injury that.lowers his value and he will be forced to take less money. The players know this.game, so they dont walk away, and they negotiate. Forte has proven to.be a top.back in the league, but is he really chris johnson.good, or does he out up big numbers because he is all the bears have? If its the latter, no team is going to pay him what he wants. I havent heard for.sure what the two sides positions are (i dont think anyone has) so how can anyone place blame on one side of the other for not having a deal done? I keep hearing 15-16m guarenteed is the "fair price" but I havent heard where either side is.

 

[flapgreen]

Forte leads the league yards from the line of scrimmage. Sign him JA, you stupid #######. Everyone is screaming for it. It's now a distraction because Jumpin Jerry made it one. The other players are calling for it. Just more incompetency from the front office. I'd consider all of my options after the season if I was Forte. JA promising him to get it done before the season began and then lowballing him is a damn embarrassment. It has to be crossing Forte's mind to say forget it and test the free agent market. He will be in huge demand. Can't count out this scenario with the front office. Who knows.

forte can't just "test the waters." if forte walks away from.the table, the bears will just franchise him. Then if they still cant get a deal done, they will franchise him.again. By then, its likey a time will come when.forte has a bad end to a season or an injury that.lowers his value and he will be forced to take less money. The players know this.game, so they dont walk away, and they negotiate. Forte has proven to.be a top.back in the league, but is he really chris johnson.good, or does he out up big numbers because he is all the bears have? If its the latter, no team is going to pay him what he wants. I havent heard for.sure what the two sides positions are (i dont think anyone has) so how can anyone place blame on one side of the other for not having a deal done? I keep hearing 15-16m guarenteed is the "fair price" but I havent heard where either side is.

If that's the case, I stand corrected on what his approach should be. At this point, I think he is "Chris Johnson" good and he is one of the most important players in the league to his team. I don't see how him putting up huge numbers is a result of him being all the Bears have. I would think that increases his value even more. He's proven he's a top five back at this point, imo. Putting up huge numbers behind the worst OL in the league shows that.

 

[flapgreen]

Chicago Bears coach Lovie Smith hinted at change after Monday night’s 24-13 loss at Detroit, and it appears the safety position will undergo a major facelift.

Veterans Chris Harris and Brandon Meriweather are expected to be benched in favor of Major Wright and rookie Chris Conte for Sunday’s game against the Vikings, according to multiple team sources. Wright and Conte are expected to get the first-team reps at strong and free safety, respectively, during Thursday’s practice.

Harris and Meriweather started and struggled against the Lions. Harris, who returned after missing three games with a hamstring injury, was a few steps behind in coverage when Lions receiver Calvin Johnson caught a 73-yard touchdown pass from Matthew Stafford. Harris also made a few other costly errors, including one that helped lead to Jahvid Best’s 88-yard touchdown run.

Meriweather played a bit reckless throughout the game, opting for big hits rather than wrapping up for the tackle. The former New England Patriot seems to be having a tough time adjusting to a new defensive system.

If Wright and Conte perform well in practice and start Sunday, as expected, it would be the fifth different safety combination in six games.

The coaches might be asking a lot out of the inexperienced Wright and Conte with the Bears set to face arguably the league's best running back in Adrian Peterson. This would be Wright's fourth career start and Conte's first.

Cornerback Charles Tillman was asked Thursday how the Bears could establish continuity at the safety position.

"Play harder, fix the mistakes, go back to fundamentals," Tillman said. "And the most important part is to have fun."

Rwhahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[flapgreen]