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2011 offseason dynasty trades (3 Viewers)
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jeter23
Footballguy
I agree with all of these points and was still very hesitant to do the deal, even with the 1st. The flexible lineups along with some concerns about CJ made me really question accepting. In the end, I decided to make a play for the title this year (I thought I was a year away prior to this deal). If I don't win a title this year or next, I will not be happy I took this deal.Most would say that and I agree with it. Unfortunately... Jeter wouldn't do straight or with Keller and a 2nd.Keep in mind a few things:- It's a 1 RB start league- Team B already has Bradshaw and Ray Rice (along with Wayne, Santonio, and Santonio at WR)- CJ was offered to all teams with WR studs. This was the only deal that was even close given the 1 RB start.Let's revisit this in a year and see where we are at.... I still don't expect anyone to agree with it, but atleast these are a few of the reasons for overpaying for Dez.
Dez
Footballguy
Wow Addia and Brown landed a 1st and Meachem. I was offered Addai this year for a 2nd and I passed and I am weak at RB. Just don't like giving up a 1st for a guy that old.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
1 PPR for WR, zero PPR for RB:
xxxxxxx gave up:
Collie, Austin IND WR
Fighting Couch Potatoes HP3 gave up:
Lynch, Marshawn SEA RB
Year 2011 Draft Pick 1.12
xxxxxxx gave up:
Collie, Austin IND WR
Fighting Couch Potatoes HP3 gave up:
Lynch, Marshawn SEA RB
Year 2011 Draft Pick 1.12
doowain
Footballguy
I was happy with it. He had expressed interest in them earlier in the offseason, so I offered Brown for Meachem straight up and he countered with that.ETA: The beautiful part is that the 1st I am getting is the one I had traded him a couple months back in a 2012 1st/2013 1st for Miles Austin swap.
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valhallan
Footballguy
I might argue Jennings is worth all of that by himself.12 Team, non-PPR, 6 pts for all TDsTeam A giveseyton ManningRashad Jennings2011 3.05Team B gives
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Woah. Jennings for that alone? No.
eakfootball
Footballguy
gave: Jonathan Goff, Terrell Suggs
got: Rolando McClain
got: Rolando McClain
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
?'valhallan said:I might argue Jennings is worth all of that by himself.'Fly said:12 Team, non-PPR, 6 pts for all TDsTeam A gives
the turnip
Footballguy
16 teams, non ppr
I gave; Jahvid Best, Joe Flacco and 2.11 in the 2012 rookie draft
Received; LeSean McCoy
I gave; Jahvid Best, Joe Flacco and 2.11 in the 2012 rookie draft
Received; LeSean McCoy
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Steal, getting McCoy for that.
FUBAR
Footballguy
nice. someone must either like Best a lot more than I do or this is a 2 qb league.
loose circuits
Footballguy
wow, to get a #1 and SS for Mike Thomas is pretty amazing, not to mention a 3rd
the turnip
Footballguy
Its a $1000 salary cap, contract length, 1 QB league.Original trade was; McCoy ($70) and McNabb (long contract at $278)(cap hit of $130 to dump him)For; Flacco (sporting a killer cheap $7 of $1000 salary, and Best at $66)His only QB was the super spendy and rather ugly McNabb. I also own Aaron Rodgers so Flacco was on my bench. He rid himself of McNabb's bloated contract and upgraded to a much cheaper and better Flacco. I turned around and gave away McNabb AND a late 2nd rounder in next years draft to an owner with zero QB's and a ton of cap room. I got a 4th rounder in return, in essence paying him to take McNabb off my hands. I was over the cap with McNabb's salary and cutting him would have put me in dire straights.So, the final trade becomes McCoy for Best, Flacco and 2nd rounder.In 16 team leagues I feel blue chip players are worth paying to acquire. I'm stoked at this point, but then the real season and reality will set in.
eakfootball
Footballguy
Both McCoy traded were steals
eakfootball
Footballguy
I actually felt a little bad making this deal.
Gave: Sammie Stroughter, 2012 4th
Got: DeMarrco Murrey
Gave: Sammie Stroughter, 2012 4th
Got: DeMarrco Murrey
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
This same guy is killing the balance of your league. He should have already been replaced.
eakfootball
Footballguy
No way Stevie is worth that.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
I don't think it's amazing, I see it as pretty fair (I'm in this league, but not a party to the trade).Smith has value for a couple of years probably, 2011 and 2012, and then he's 34 entering 2013 and probably not worth much in fantasy. He's maybe about on par with Thomas for now, though in PPR I'd put Thomas ahead of him.In 2013, Thomas is 26 and in his prime, Gabbert is in there and will be better than Garrard, and this s/b a good PPR run for a few years. Assuming Smith has faded and isn't all that useful in fantasy, now the 2013 1st rounder gets added to take Smith's place as far as value is concerned. Jeter23 always has strong teams and that pick will likely be 1.08 or later, it'll take a year or two before that player is useful probably, and there's a bust risk with any rookie pick. There's value in having Thomas now vs. a pick that'll have delayed usefulness until 2014 or so. So I see Smith plus the pick being about what it would take if I were to trade away Thomas. Seems pretty reasonable to me.
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Couch Potato
Footballguy
Foolish trade for Coney Island I think.
Tau837
Footballguy
No one commented on this trade. Any comments?Aside from that, here are a few other trades I was not involved in that occurred in the same league recently:
Team A gave up Vincent Jackson, 2011 Draft Pick 2.03
Team B gave up Braylon Edwards, Brandon Pettigrew, 2011 Draft Pick 1.08
Team C gave up Aaron Hernandez
Team D gave up 2011 Draft Pick 1.04
Team C gave up Michael Vick
Team D gave up Drew Brees
Teams C and D are the same in the last two trades.
derek19
Footballguy
eakfootball
Footballguy
Every single trade that Sup_Yo and Just win baby posted are very one sided. Sims-Walker for 1.8, really. Not even gonna start on that Crabtree trade. Hernandez for the 1.4 is insane. And the VJax deal is bad too. Vick and Brees could be argued, but I prefer Vick by a large margin.
Tau837
Footballguy
sihaokills
Footballguy
FUBAR
Footballguy
salary cap changes things. I still like the McCoy side but it's good to see the logic behind the other side.
FUBAR
Footballguy
I'd need a late 1st included with Rice to trade Maclin.
sihaokills
Footballguy
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Probably a fear trade stemming from the Maclin illness.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Not a fear trade at all.First, I love Maclin and think he's a very talented WR. That said, I don't think he'll ever be a top 5 guy like a Fitzgerald or AJ or Calvin. I do think Sidney has that potential. This is about the lowest I think you'll be able to buy Sidney from here on out because of the situation he landed in. I'll post a little more later on this.FWIW, I have the 2 very close, but with Rice having more upside. And FBG rankings have them at 19 and 20, both of which I think are too low.
JEWMAH9701
Footballguy
12-Team Dynasty w/ PPR
Start 2RB 2WR 1FX
Team A:
A.J. Green
Team B:
Jahvid Best
Start 2RB 2WR 1FX
Team A:
A.J. Green
Team B:
Jahvid Best
valhallan
Footballguy
OK, maybe I exaggerated. My real point was that I think Jennings is the only piece of the trade (aside from Manning, of course) with difference-maker potential. If I had Hillis, Jones, and a late 2nd I might consider pulling the trigger for Jennings alone, though I'm sure adding a pick wouldn't be difficult. This is merely an example of how I trade - sell middling pieces for a chance at a difference-maker.?'valhallan said:I might argue Jennings is worth all of that by himself.'Fly said:12 Team, non-PPR, 6 pts for all TDsTeam A gives
Tony Reali
Footballguy
12 team 5 keeper
I traded: Moreno and 1.11 pick
I got: 1.6 pick
So basically traded Moreno and moved up 5 spots in first round. Wasn't going to keep him anyway
I traded: Moreno and 1.11 pick
I got: 1.6 pick
So basically traded Moreno and moved up 5 spots in first round. Wasn't going to keep him anyway
bengalbuck
Footballguy
I'm not very high on Hillis in dynasty, but this reasoning is crazy in my opinion. How does Hillis not have "difference-maker potential?" The guy was a huge difference maker last season. Almost by definition he has the potential to come close to repeating numbers he just had....And you think he has less potential than a late round RB who has shown a few flashes but is obviously blocked behind a superstar 26 y/o RB in MJD?I can't fathom what league Rashad Jennings has more value than Hillis in....'valhallan said:OK, maybe I exaggerated. My real point was that I think Jennings is the only piece of the trade (aside from Manning, of course) with difference-maker potential. If I had Hillis, Jones, and a late 2nd I might consider pulling the trigger for Jennings alone, though I'm sure adding a pick wouldn't be difficult. This is merely an example of how I trade - sell middling pieces for a chance at a difference-maker.?I might argue Jennings is worth all of that by himself.12 Team, non-PPR, 6 pts for all TDsTeam A gives
eakfootball
Footballguy
You would trade Peyton Hillis, James Jones, and a 2nd for Rashad Jennings? Jones for Jennings would be a fair trade. In startups Hillis is going in the 3rd or 4th, and Jennings in like the 14th.
valhallan
Footballguy
I'm just thinking it wouldn't be that far-fetched if this time next year Hillis and Jones are flirting with the waiver wire while Jennings is a hot commodity. Situations change quick and one of the few things you can count on is talent. I think he has the most talent of the three, therefore he's the most desirable player in the deal.
In any case, I certainly think the team getting Manning, Jennings, and a 3rd won that deal by a landslide.
In any case, I certainly think the team getting Manning, Jennings, and a 3rd won that deal by a landslide.
FUBAR
Footballguy
I'd want more for Stew and Maclin. Plus we really don't know what the 2013 picks will yield. That's two seasons away.
Dawg Pound 69
Footballguy
Marlon Moore's mother is Orlando ?12 man PPROrlando gave up:Year 2011 Draft Pick 2.04Year 2013 Round 2 Draft Pick from Puerto RicoLas Vegas gave up:Moore, Marlon MIA WRRobiskie, Brian CLE WR
eakfootball
Footballguy
How come your leagues always have terrible deals? This one is just plain terrible and might be veto worthy.12 man PPROrlando gave up:Year 2011 Draft Pick 2.04Year 2013 Round 2 Draft Pick from Puerto RicoLas Vegas gave up:Moore, Marlon MIA WRRobiskie, Brian CLE WR
