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2011 offseason dynasty trades (1 Viewer)
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the_sig
Footballguy
14 Team Dynasty 0/1/2 PPR for RB/WR/TE. Start QB/RB/RB/WR/WR 2 WR/RB/TE-flex K D/ST. No TE required. 3 Months ago I thought my starting WR's could be passable, but weak (Maclin & SSmith NYG). Well,now it looks like Maclin may not start the season and SSmith was traded to PHI, and not likely to start the season either. Worked hard trying to get a decent WR1 for a RB, but was underwhelmed. So I went against my better judgement and traded a stud for mediocrity/depth. Probably helps my team though. I also had no 2011 draft picks to work with.
I gave: Jamal Charles >>>>>> and Bernard Scott, Blair White, Anthony Gonzalez, & Brandon Tate
I got: Brandon Lloyd, Santana Moss, Lee Evans, Danny Amendola & Piere Thomas
I'm under no illusions that Lloyd and Moss will put up 2010 stats, but should be passable. Taking a shot Evans is traded, Amendola could be a PPR machine and PThomas gets some carries.
My roster after trade:
Rodgers/Stafford/Hill
MJD/Jennings/Bradshaw/Matthews/PThomas
Maclin/SSmith/BLloyd/SMoss/Garcon/LEvans/Amendola/DAlexander/Plax/HWard
Still weak at WR, but probably can get by. Gonna be tough to figure which 3 or 4 WR's to start any given week with this group.
I gave: Jamal Charles >>>>>> and Bernard Scott, Blair White, Anthony Gonzalez, & Brandon Tate
I got: Brandon Lloyd, Santana Moss, Lee Evans, Danny Amendola & Piere Thomas
I'm under no illusions that Lloyd and Moss will put up 2010 stats, but should be passable. Taking a shot Evans is traded, Amendola could be a PPR machine and PThomas gets some carries.
My roster after trade:
Rodgers/Stafford/Hill
MJD/Jennings/Bradshaw/Matthews/PThomas
Maclin/SSmith/BLloyd/SMoss/Garcon/LEvans/Amendola/DAlexander/Plax/HWard
Still weak at WR, but probably can get by. Gonna be tough to figure which 3 or 4 WR's to start any given week with this group.
pghrob
Footballguy
2 trades:
12 team PPR, 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 1k, 1d/st, all td's = 6 pts.
Team A trades Santonio Holmes, 2012 1st round rookie pick (maybe top 6)and 2013 & 2014 2nd round rookie picks.
Team B trades Jermichael Finley
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12 team PPR, 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 1k, 1d/st, all td's = 6 pts.
Team A trades Jonathan Stewart
Team B trades Mike Williams (TB)
12 team PPR, 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 1k, 1d/st, all td's = 6 pts.
Team A trades Santonio Holmes, 2012 1st round rookie pick (maybe top 6)and 2013 & 2014 2nd round rookie picks.
Team B trades Jermichael Finley
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12 team PPR, 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 1k, 1d/st, all td's = 6 pts.
Team A trades Jonathan Stewart
Team B trades Mike Williams (TB)
eakfootball
Footballguy
Terrible trade. What were you thinking?
eakfootball
Footballguy
Those trades are both lopsided. The first one is pure insanity.
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
Which way? Finley still has a lot of hype and upside. Only start 2 WRs, so Holmes value as consistent WR2 is a little weakened. Seems like the 1st is a borderline playoff team so don't know where it will be, really.
This made me laugh out loud.
Riffraff
Footballguy
Is it safe to assume that the xxxxx stood for Lions ?
eakfootball
Footballguy
Well Holmes and Finely are pretty much equal in value, with maybe a slight bump to Holmes, plus a first that could be top six, and two 2nds is crazy.
the_sig
Footballguy
Well, I think I outlined what I was thinking. I was staring at Garcon and Hines as my opening day starters. That wasn't going to cut it. After about 10 days of sending out rb for wr offers, I was also getting tired of the idea of trading Jamal straight up for james jones or crabtree. Relative to those, I can live with what I got. Keep in mind rb's don't get ppr in this format but wr's do. Jamal's scoring wasn't terribly higher than either Lloyd or Moss last season, and again I realize neither will likely repeat, but could come close.'eakfootball said:
eakfootball
Footballguy
The second trade isn't too bad, but I value Williams quite a bit higher than Stewart in ppr.
eakfootball
Footballguy
I would have thought you could have gotten a better WR than Lloyd.
Instinctive
Footballguy
Zealots:
Team A Gives:
Roddy White
2012 Round 3 Pick
Team B Gives:
Brandon Lloyd
Steve Johnson
2012 Round 2 Pick
Both teams are top 3 in the league. Team B had an undefeated regular season and Team A won his division and the championship.
Team A Gives:
Roddy White
2012 Round 3 Pick
Team B Gives:
Brandon Lloyd
Steve Johnson
2012 Round 2 Pick
Both teams are top 3 in the league. Team B had an undefeated regular season and Team A won his division and the championship.
the_sig
Footballguy
I thought I could have done better too, but in the end, it isnt what you think your guy is worth, it is what kind of trade can you actually get done. And I sent out many offers and emails....that didn't help my team as much as this deal did.
As an fyi, only 1 rb finished in the top 30 scorers in this league last year (foster). Jamal was 34 overall,w/ 241.5 pts. Smoss had 241, & Lloyd had 287.8 and was 11th overall.
eakfootball
Footballguy
20 team non ppr
Gave: Denarius Moore
Got: Brent Celek
Was very strong at WR, and only had Gresham at TE.
Gave: Denarius Moore
Got: Brent Celek
Was very strong at WR, and only had Gresham at TE.
pghrob
Footballguy
If team B that traded for Stewart was the DeAngelo owner, does it seem any better a deal for team B? One of the challenges in dynasty is arriving at a valuation that takes into account gains to be had down the road vs. in the present. Clearly, Mike Williams in a PPR has more value over Stewart for 2011, but should Stew become a feature back (predicated on injury to D-Will or a Carolina trade), that gap closes, albeit, not as much if Stew was a pass catching 3-down back. Jon Stewart would likely have a higher value to the DeA Williams owner than other teams, agreed? In 2009 when given the chance, Stewart finished as RB14 (a solid RB2) under the PPR scoring rules for the league. He averaged over 5 yards per carry and scored 10 rushing tds. The problem is giving up option of having production in the WR line-up from Mike Williams to manage the risk of losing DeAngelo.
eakfootball
Footballguy
I personally don't like to have two backs from the same team unless it's a handcuff situation.
eakfootball
Footballguy
One of the more one sided deals I've seen posted here yet. I think everything that team A gave besides Mathews is about equal to Bryant. Then the rest is pretty much Mathews for Foster.
pghrob
Footballguy
Could you please define handcuff situation? I thought handcuff situation meant securing the obvious back up to a bonafide stud. So in this case, is it your opinion that the breakdown of RB carries in Carolina is such that DeAngelo is not far and away the type of running back that would permit Stewart to be viewed as a handcuff, assuming my concept of handcuff is accurate? THx for your thoughts.
Dez
Footballguy
12 team PPR
Las Vegas gave up:
Year 2011 Draft Pick 1.11
Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.05
Year 2012 Round 2 Draft Pick from Memphis
Year 2013 Round 1 Draft Pick from Orlando
Year 2013 Round 2 Draft Pick from Orlando
Orlando gave up:
Year 2011 Draft Pick 1.06
Year 2011 Draft Pick 1.07
Las Vegas gave up:
Year 2011 Draft Pick 1.11
Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.05
Year 2012 Round 2 Draft Pick from Memphis
Year 2013 Round 1 Draft Pick from Orlando
Year 2013 Round 2 Draft Pick from Orlando
Orlando gave up:
Year 2011 Draft Pick 1.06
Year 2011 Draft Pick 1.07
Dez
Footballguy
Give me Foster and Dez
RobertBobson
Footballguy
Team A: Leshoure
Team B: 2nd round draft pick ( pick's team was 2nd to last, this past season, and likely to be bottom 4 this season)
Team B: 2nd round draft pick ( pick's team was 2nd to last, this past season, and likely to be bottom 4 this season)
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
12 Team Dynasty PPR
Adrian Peterson
traded for:
Leg Blount, 2011 1.01
Adrian Peterson
traded for:
Leg Blount, 2011 1.01
eakfootball
Footballguy
ADP is worth more
Instinctive
Footballguy
Thought I'd bump for thoughts. Too low on Roddy or decent value?
Trades like this show there needs to be vetoing. These are the type of trades that cause leagues to find new owners at a discount.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
I'll precede my comments by disclosing that I have both Dez and Arian on my team...I think this is nuts. No way would I give up Bryant and Foster for those guys.
Dez
Footballguy
I also have both Foster and Dez in 1 of my dynasty leagues
valhallan
Footballguy
Seems even enough. Lloyd looks legit finally, Stevie could stick, and a higher pick tossed in.
kardplayer
Footballguy
Thanks man. Most of those happened over a fairly intense two days...
What'ya guys think of this one: 12 team, non-pppr full flex league
Team A Gets - Frank Gore and Steve Johnson (this owner took over this year; had three starting NYG players)
Team B Gets - Manningham, Ahmad Bradshaw and Pettis (this owner needed to insure Colston who's been inj.)
Team A Gets - Frank Gore and Steve Johnson (this owner took over this year; had three starting NYG players)
Team B Gets - Manningham, Ahmad Bradshaw and Pettis (this owner needed to insure Colston who's been inj.)
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theglorydays
Footballguy
I traded larry fitzgerald,
for
Pick 1.01(mark ingram)
for
Pick 1.01(mark ingram)
RobertBobson
Footballguy
Selling too long on Fitz imo. Shoulda got another piece back.
Dawg Pound 69
Footballguy
I like Ingram, but Fitz has to be worth more than that. Wonder if this is a contract league ?
theglorydays
Footballguy
Thanks for the feedback guys. I'm loaded at receiver (roddy, fitz, vjax, dez, and sidney rice) but my backs are terrible save mjd (lt2, lynch and hightower)
gianmarco
Footballguy
Roddy or VJax are the ones that should have been sold. And should have gotten a bit more back for Roddy.
eakfootball
Footballguy
I wouldn't sell Fitz unless I got both 1.1, 1.2, and a late first in return.
RobertBobson
Footballguy
oh, I understand you have needs or w/e... but I wouldn't trade fitz straight up for a runningback less than the DMC/Mendy/MJD tier. If Ingram ends up being a stud, it will be a great trade for you, but its a lot of risk, and I think you left value on the table.
Instinctive
Footballguy
Just a nitpick, but based on trade value, MJD is a tier below Mendy/DMC. Over-cautiousness about the knees I suppose.
Dez
Footballguy
To be fair I have actually seen Ingram go before Fitz in a start up this year.Not saying I would do it but someone did.I have seen 3 start ups in the FFPC and they went like this13-Ingram14-Fitz14-Fitz21-Ingram12-Fitz29-IngramThe last draft is probably fair value for each.
Instinctive
Footballguy
Fitz 2.05Ingram 2.1114 teamer
eakfootball
Footballguy
I would put him as the last back in their tier for dynasty. Here is my tier view (players are not in order in their tiers)Tier 1ADPCJ3CharlesTier 2Ray RiceArian FosterLeSean McCoyTier 3McFaddenMendyMJDTier 4ForteIngramMathewsBradshawGoreSJAXHillisBestJStewTier 5LynchMorenoR. WilliamsFelixBlountD. ThomasSpillerGreeneDeangeloTurner
Instinctive
Footballguy
I would move Rice to tier 1, Forte/Mendy/DMC to tier 2, and MJD to tier 4 (which is then tier 3). I see much less separation between these guys - 3 tiers, not 4.
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