shamrock84
Footballguy
Team A gives: Larry Fitz, 3.05
Team B gives: Julio Jones, 2.04
Team B gives: Julio Jones, 2.04
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2012 Offseason Dynasty Trades (1 Viewer)
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loose circuits
Footballguy
if it came to that, I'm sure the dude could have just grabbed Pettigrew and got a much better pick from someone elseSome background, which I should've included the first time...Our league has 2 new owners that are conducting a dispersal draft. At the point of the trade, they were a little over halfway done. One guy had 2 TEs (Gates, F Davis) and the other guy had none. The best rookie pick available was an early 3rd. The guy w/ 2 TEs dealt me his dispersal pick that was on the clock for the 2.11. The other guy had planned to take Pettigrew.A lot of the trades here lately are really head scratching - to the point that this thread is helping me less and less for determining actual trade value. Some trades can be explained by the context of the league, but even if the owner was overstocked at the TE position, I would think he could have done better than the 2.11 - I dunno, perhaps Pettigrew was shopped around and that was the best offer.
doombringer
Footballguy
12 team PPR
A gave: Vernon Davis, Chris Johnson
B gave: Chris Wells, Ryan Williams, Jermicheal Finley, Delone Carter, Kevin Kolb, 1.9
A gave: Vernon Davis, Chris Johnson
B gave: Chris Wells, Ryan Williams, Jermicheal Finley, Delone Carter, Kevin Kolb, 1.9
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
The team getting the two best players in the deal wins. Give me VD & CJ.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Romo side wins easily.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
16 team .5/1/1.5 ppr idp
Cruz,1.12, Timmons, 2.06 for Julio Jones, 2013 2nd, 4.14.
Cruz,1.12, Timmons, 2.06 for Julio Jones, 2013 2nd, 4.14.
solorca
Footballguy
I was the Rivers side on this one. Personally, I have Rivers higher than Romo and Ford/Hankerson fairly similar (I like Hankerson a bit more, but I'm pretty high on both). I am willing to give up the 2013 second for that upgrade. Care to provide feedback on why you think it was an clear loss for me? I am getting my feet wet in dynasty over the past few seasons, so anything that may give me perspective is great.I've never been one for hoarding picks, although I generally like to hang on to my first rounders. I did hate giving up Hankerson, but I have him in every other league I'm in...so it he blows up, I won't feel too bad
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Spin
Footballguy
1qb/2rb/3wr/1te/flex(any)/idp ppr
Team A gives:
Andre Johnson
Mendenhall
Team B gives
Forte
Ryan Williams
2.6
After trade starters:
Team A has Megatron/Fitz/AJ Green at wr and Rice/Forte at rb
Team B has
Murray/Mendy/Helu/Thomas at rb and Welker/Wallace/Andre at wr
B was really hurting at wr so I can see why he'd go after Andre. He was having to choose between Collie/Amendola/Bennett/Cobb at wr3 so this really strengthens his wrs.
Team A gives:
Andre Johnson
Mendenhall
Team B gives
Forte
Ryan Williams
2.6
After trade starters:
Team A has Megatron/Fitz/AJ Green at wr and Rice/Forte at rb
Team B has
Murray/Mendy/Helu/Thomas at rb and Welker/Wallace/Andre at wr
B was really hurting at wr so I can see why he'd go after Andre. He was having to choose between Collie/Amendola/Bennett/Cobb at wr3 so this really strengthens his wrs.
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JohnnyU
Footballguy
I like Hankerson more than Ford by quite a bit and I think Romo is going to have a huge year in 2012. I like him better than Rivers in fantasy. The only time I would take Rivers over Romo is if we only played fantasy football in December. ETA: Also, 2nd rounders can be very important in dynasty leagues. Don't you forget it. You don't just give them away. There has been many studs taken in the 2nd round of dynasty fantasy drafts.I was the Rivers side on this one. Personally, I have Rivers higher than Romo and Ford/Hankerson fairly similar (I like Hankerson a bit more, but I'm pretty high on both). I am willing to give up the 2013 second for that upgrade. Care to provide feedback on why you think it was an clear loss for me? I am getting my feet wet in dynasty over the past few seasons, so anything that may give me perspective is great.I've never been one for hoarding picks, although I generally like to hang on to my first rounders. I did hate giving up Hankerson, but I have him in every other league I'm in...so it he blows up, I won't feel too bad
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JohnnyU
Footballguy
Freaking ouch to the team who traded Dez Bryant for that. That is a very very bad trade.
Jaysports
Footballguy
What is the consensus on this one? I was the one that traded away Fitz. Guessing pretty even since there were no comments...
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Both are top 5 wrs in a dynasty Imo. Slight edge to Fitz so looks even to me.
r0llin_game
Footballguy
Julio top 5??? I'd say top 10, but not top 5. I thought it was fair.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Maybe I'm odd but Calvin, Fitz, nicks, aj green and Julio are pretty easily my top 5 in a dynasty in some order.
Jaysports
Footballguy
That would be my top 5 as well.
Illegal Pants Downfield
Footballguy
16-team IDP, non-PPR.
Team A gives:
Wes Welker
Team B gives:
Victor Cruz
2012 3rd Round Pick
2012 4th Round Pick
2012 4th Round Pick
Team A gives:
Wes Welker
Team B gives:
Victor Cruz
2012 3rd Round Pick
2012 4th Round Pick
2012 4th Round Pick
Warhogs
Footballguy
I'd take Cruz and the picks. I know a lot of people aren't sold on Cruz and Welker has proven himself over and over again but I like Cruz every biut as well as Welker.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
ebcpastor2004
Footballguy
I obviously made a mistake on this trade. I had already made it known that Ben & Dez were available for trade & got NO bites (at all). No question- I should've asked for more. I've already explained my reasoning though- I have concerns about Ben & Dez & I think Manning has elevated his game, has good pieces that should stay together for the next few years, & I am a fan. Considering their total points from this year (& discounting the future growth of Dez which I am uncertain about), Manning scored about 100 points more than Ben, Dez scored about 150, so that leaves a net loss of 50 points, which I am hopeful the pick & a piece or two will help me to recoup.ETA: No question it was a bad move. I didn't think it through enough when I sent it. I just hope it doesn't hurt me too bad in the long run.
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Warhogs
Footballguy
I was actually surprised you did not get heavy interest in Dez Bryant when you made him available several weeks earlier. I wanted to make an offer but without a first round pick did not feel I had enough ammo. I wouldn't feel bad about it. As you said you got your QB upgrade. It was just an easy accept for me because I am getting pretty old at WR (counting heavily on Steve Smith and Colston).I obviously made a mistake on this trade. I had already made it known that Ben & Dez were available for trade & got NO bites (at all). No question- I should've asked for more. I've already explained my reasoning though- I have concerns about Ben & Dez & I think Manning has elevated his game, has good pieces that should stay together for the next few years, & I am a fan. Considering their total points from this year (& discounting the future growth of Dez which I am uncertain about), Manning scored about 100 points more than Ben, Dez scored about 150, so that leaves a net loss of 50 points, which I am hopeful the pick & a piece or two will help me to recoup.ETA: No question it was a bad move. I just hope it doesn't hurt me too bad in the long run.
ebcpastor2004
Footballguy
Of course YOU don't think I should feel bad about it.I was actually surprised you did not get heavy interest in Dez Bryant when you made him available several weeks earlier. I wanted to make an offer but without a first round pick did not feel I had enough ammo. I wouldn't feel bad about it. As you said you got your QB upgrade. It was just an easy accept for me because I am getting pretty old at WR (counting heavily on Steve Smith and Colston).I obviously made a mistake on this trade. I had already made it known that Ben & Dez were available for trade & got NO bites (at all). No question- I should've asked for more. I've already explained my reasoning though- I have concerns about Ben & Dez & I think Manning has elevated his game, has good pieces that should stay together for the next few years, & I am a fan. Considering their total points from this year (& discounting the future growth of Dez which I am uncertain about), Manning scored about 100 points more than Ben, Dez scored about 150, so that leaves a net loss of 50 points, which I am hopeful the pick & a piece or two will help me to recoup.ETA: No question it was a bad move. I just hope it doesn't hurt me too bad in the long run.
:justjoshing: What's done is done. I just hope it's not one of those deals that haunts me if Dez blows up.
matttyl
Footballguy
10 team dynasty league (starts 1 QB, 1 RB, 2 WR, 2 flex)
Team 1 - trades away Cam Newton, Steve Smith, Randall Cobb
Team 2 - trades away Hakeem Nicks, Demaryius Thomas, Flacco, and a 2014 1st round rookie pick (could fall anywhere from 1-10)
* team 1 already has Aaron Rodgers, and again you only start 1 QB weekly
** team 1 already has 4 other 2014 1st round picks; now has 5 of first 10 picks in 2014 rookie draft
Team 1 - trades away Cam Newton, Steve Smith, Randall Cobb
Team 2 - trades away Hakeem Nicks, Demaryius Thomas, Flacco, and a 2014 1st round rookie pick (could fall anywhere from 1-10)
* team 1 already has Aaron Rodgers, and again you only start 1 QB weekly
** team 1 already has 4 other 2014 1st round picks; now has 5 of first 10 picks in 2014 rookie draft
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
The rest of the league better watch out 4 years from now.
matttyl
Footballguy
What about right now?! Team 1's current starting lineup is Rodgers, Rice, Calvin, Nicks, Finley/Davis as the TE, and pick 2 flex from V Jax, F Jax/Spiller, Mendy/Redman, J Stew, Ingram, Crabtree, D Thomas, Kevin Smith, and the TE he didn't start.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I was just referrong to this line: "...now has 5 of first 10 picks in 2014 rookie draft".
32 Counter Pass
Footballguy
12 team Dynasty
Team A:
Tennessee Titans (TEN)
LeSean McCoy (PHI)
2012 Draft, Rnd 3 (3.11)
Team B:
San Francisco 49ers (SFO)
Fred Davis (WAS)
Mario Manningham (NYG)
2012 Draft, Rnd 1 (1.11)
2012 Draft, Rnd 1 (1.03)
2013 Draft, Rnd 1
Team A:
Tennessee Titans (TEN)
LeSean McCoy (PHI)
2012 Draft, Rnd 3 (3.11)
Team B:
San Francisco 49ers (SFO)
Fred Davis (WAS)
Mario Manningham (NYG)
2012 Draft, Rnd 1 (1.11)
2012 Draft, Rnd 1 (1.03)
2013 Draft, Rnd 1
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Hmmm, dont think id trade lesean for a bunch of maybes. id need at least one sure fire player
Matt's Eagles
Footballguy
I agree...I think if I trade Lesean I want at least the #1 pick...
EBF
Footballguy
Just did this:
GAVE
QB Ben Roethlisberger
TE Jermaine Gresham
2013 3rd round rookie pick
RECEIVED
QB Matt Schaub
TE Chris Cooley
2013 1st round rookie pick
Not wild about giving up Gresham, as I think he has the potential to be a star, but I already have Aaron Rodgers and Jimmy Graham on my roster. I felt Roethlisberger and Schaub was close to a push, and the draft pick should be more useful to me than a backup TE (albeit a very good one).
GAVE
QB Ben Roethlisberger
TE Jermaine Gresham
2013 3rd round rookie pick
RECEIVED
QB Matt Schaub
TE Chris Cooley
2013 1st round rookie pick
Not wild about giving up Gresham, as I think he has the potential to be a star, but I already have Aaron Rodgers and Jimmy Graham on my roster. I felt Roethlisberger and Schaub was close to a push, and the draft pick should be more useful to me than a backup TE (albeit a very good one).
eakfootball
Footballguy
16 team dynasty .5 ppr
Gave:
Donald Brown
Balil Powell
Desmond Bishop
Got:
Jahvid Best
Lamaar Woodley
Santana Moss
Gave:
Donald Brown
Balil Powell
Desmond Bishop
Got:
Jahvid Best
Lamaar Woodley
Santana Moss
matttyl
Footballguy
League's been in place for 10+ years already as a keeper/dynasty. In it's inception draft, Stephen Davis was a first rounder. I think he's safe on that end.How bad is it going to suck for that guy if his league folds in 2013?
solorca
Footballguy
I didn't really like this trade when I saw it come through, but I understand your thinking on it at least. Then again, I could just be a little jealous because I wanted to get Gresham from you.
Spin
Footballguy
10 teams, 1qb/2rb/3wr/1te/1flex(any)/idp, ppr
Team A: gave up Meachem, Robert NOS WR; Year 2012 Draft Pick 1.04;Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.04
Team B: gave up Bush, Michael OAK RB;McFadden, Darren OAK RB
It's a contract year league, and Bush and McFadden only have 1 year left on their contracts, so they'll both be RFAs in 2013.
I still like the trade for Team A though.
Team A: gave up Meachem, Robert NOS WR; Year 2012 Draft Pick 1.04;Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.04
Team B: gave up Bush, Michael OAK RB;McFadden, Darren OAK RB
It's a contract year league, and Bush and McFadden only have 1 year left on their contracts, so they'll both be RFAs in 2013.
I still like the trade for Team A though.
Banemorth
Footballguy
Team A is insane.
EBF
Footballguy
I don't like the trade either, but it's hard to judge without knowing the particulars of the scoring format. I play in one league where passing yards and TDs count the same as rushing/receiving. In that format you have a rock solid top 3 of elite prospects in Luck, Richardson, and Blackmon. I don't think McCoy is worth THAT much more than the 1.03 pick. Fred Davis and two additional firsts is potentially a lot of value depending on how the draft picks are used.
Dawg Pound 69
Footballguy
I don't think it's too bad. Last year will likely be Jordy's career best season, and Jackson's career worst. So a year from now they'll probably have nearly equal value.'Jaysports said:
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
I think lesean and the 1.03 are on different planets in most scoring systems.
Banemorth
Footballguy
I concur and reiterate...Team A is insane.
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