I really don't like either trade for you.I was the other side of this deal. I went into rebuilding mode and also made the following trades...•Gave up Blount, LeGarrette TBB RB•Got Year 2012 Draft Pick 1.12andGave Brady, Tom NEP QB;Baldwin, Jon KCC WR;Henderson, Devery NOS WR;Smith, Steve CAR WRGot Manning, Eli NYG QB;Bell, Joique DET RB;Thomas, Daniel MIA RB;Garcon, Pierre IND WRGimme DT alone over Bradshaw, even more so in non-PPR... You got hosedNice trade by you IMO12 team dynasty league, no PPRGave up Pierre Thomas, Demaryius Thomas, pick 1.10Got Ahmad Bradshaw, Danny WareI'm loaded at WR with Fitz, Green, Marshall, and Harvin, and I'll be fighting to replace Peterson until he's healthy next year. Plenty of question marks in Lynch, Wells, Spiller, Jackson, M. Bush, and McGahee already on my roster, but I consider Bradshaw a step up over most of them.
Love this for Team A.12 team PPR dynastyTeam A gave up: AP, MarshallTeam B gave up: Ray Rice, 2.8
I'm guessing you are team A? I'd say it's a fair deal. If I was as high as you on hunter I'd probably love it.Non PPR league12 Teams, start qb, 2rb, 2wr, te, 1flex(rb, wr, te), k, defstandard scoring (4pts td for QBs)Team A gave up Dalton, Andy CIN QB; Brown, Antonio PIT WR; Year 2012 Draft Pick 1.11;Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.09Team B gave up Hunter, Kendall SFO RB;Rodgers, Jacquizz ATL RB; Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.01
Yes, that would be me. I like Rodgers just as much as Hunter. I won this league last year with only MJD and Rice as my RBs and you can start 3. I could afford to let Dalton and Brown go because I have Brees, Bradford, Nicks, Jennings, Julio Jones, and Victor Cruz. Not to mention the 1.04, 1.05, and 1.08.I'm guessing you are team A? I'd say it's a fair deal. If I was as high as you on hunter I'd probably love it.Non PPR league12 Teams, start qb, 2rb, 2wr, te, 1flex(rb, wr, te), k, defstandard scoring (4pts td for QBs)Team A gave up Dalton, Andy CIN QB; Brown, Antonio PIT WR; Year 2012 Draft Pick 1.11;Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.09Team B gave up Hunter, Kendall SFO RB;Rodgers, Jacquizz ATL RB; Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.01
Team A wins, even if it's a late 1st.1 pprTeam A receives: Maclin/2013 1stTeam B receives: D. Murray/Nate Washington
I consider that a big win for Team A.Team A wins, even if it's a late 1st.1 pprTeam A receives: Maclin/2013 1stTeam B receives: D. Murray/Nate Washington
I like what you gotGive: M.WallaceGet: K.Britt,A.Gates,D.Baldwin
As do II like what you gotGive: M.WallaceGet: K.Britt,A.Gates,D.Baldwin
In many states you would get 5-10yrsAs do II like what you gotGive: M.WallaceGet: K.Britt,A.Gates,D.Baldwin
I'd rather have Wallace. Britt will no doubt do something stupid off the field and he's coming off a serious injury. Gates is almost toast. Who cares about Baldwin. Wallace is still a young stud WR that will do just as well in Baltimore as he did in Pittsburgh and could end up in NE.As do II like what you gotGive: M.WallaceGet: K.Britt,A.Gates,D.Baldwin
I will take the Britt side as well. As I have said in other posts the "serious injury" angle is over played. Modern medical procedures and therapy techniques make 100% recovery a virtual certainty. Wes Welker and D. Thomas are exhibit A and B. Gates averages 13+ ppg last season, not bad for toast. BTW, haven't people been saying the same thing about Gonzo for years now?I'd rather have Wallace. Britt will no doubt do something stupid off the field and he's coming off a serious injury. Gates is almost toast. Who cares about Baldwin. Wallace is still a young stud WR that will do just as well in Baltimore as he did in Pittsburgh and could end up in NE.As do II like what you gotGive: M.WallaceGet: K.Britt,A.Gates,D.Baldwin
Very nice.1 PPRGaveCam NewtonPierre ThomasGotRay RiceBen Roethlisberger
Hard to trade away what should be a LONG productive career..but there are just too many QBs that are productive in my opinion to value any of them this high.Very nice.1 PPRGaveCam NewtonPierre ThomasGotRay RiceBen Roethlisberger
Yes, the Ray Rice / Big Ben side won that trade.Hard to trade away what should be a LONG productive career..but there are just too many QBs that are productive in my opinion to value any of them this high.Very nice.1 PPRGaveCam NewtonPierre ThomasGotRay RiceBen Roethlisberger
Nice trade from a Cam believer.1 PPRGaveCam NewtonPierre ThomasGotRay RiceBen Roethlisberger
The Cam believer grossly overpaid.'Multiple Scores said:Nice trade from a Cam believer.'TheWick said:1 PPRGaveCam NewtonPierre ThomasGotRay RiceBen Roethlisberger
I must be on the higher end, as I love this deal for the side getting Bradshaw/Jacobs.Trade from a league I commish. 12 team, ppr, QB/2RB/3WR/TE/FLEX/K/DTeam A gives: A. BradshawB. JacobsTeam B gives: F. JonesJ. Cook1.09Interesting valuation on Bradshaw IMO - some have him ranked higher, some not so much.
This is an interesting trade involving Bradshaw. Pretty balanced, imho. I value the Bradshaw/D Jackson side a bit more, personally. Turner's age and lack of rec's is a ding to his value. And really, I guess I feel like Bradshaw (due to inj's) and Jackson (due to various antics) are better than they showed in 2011.'gianmarco said:1 pprTeam A receives: Turner/HarvinTeam B receives: Bradshaw/DeSean
Since you are just as high on Rodgers as you are Hunter you think they are both future top 10 RBs? Curious on what you see out of Rodgers that makes him even starter worthy....Yes, that would be me. I like Rodgers just as much as Hunter. I won this league last year with only MJD and Rice as my RBs and you can start 3. I could afford to let Dalton and Brown go because I have Brees, Bradford, Nicks, Jennings, Julio Jones, and Victor Cruz. Not to mention the 1.04, 1.05, and 1.08.I'm guessing you are team A? I'd say it's a fair deal. If I was as high as you on hunter I'd probably love it.Non PPR league12 Teams, start qb, 2rb, 2wr, te, 1flex(rb, wr, te), k, defstandard scoring (4pts td for QBs)Team A gave up Dalton, Andy CIN QB; Brown, Antonio PIT WR; Year 2012 Draft Pick 1.11;Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.09Team B gave up Hunter, Kendall SFO RB;Rodgers, Jacquizz ATL RB; Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.01
Seems like this one largely comes down to M Leshoure vs. S Rice. -Leshoure is coming back from a bad injury and Rice has been dealing with injuries for quite a while. Leshoure is unproven at the NFL level while Rice has proven that he can perform (one big season with Favre) and has also proven that he has significant difficulty staying healthy.'doombringer said:Team A: 1.5, Sidney Rice, Golden TateTeam B: 1.7, 2.1, Mikel Leshoure
Most definitely, I think Rodgers has a very good chance at being a top 10 RB once Turner is done in Atlanta. Rodgers is more than a 3rd down back and those who discard him thinking this will be sorry. He's thicker and stronger than you think and he will be a PPR monster some day.Since you are just as high on Rodgers as you are Hunter you think they are both future top 10 RBs? Curious on what you see out of Rodgers that makes him even starter worthy....Yes, that would be me. I like Rodgers just as much as Hunter. I won this league last year with only MJD and Rice as my RBs and you can start 3. I could afford to let Dalton and Brown go because I have Brees, Bradford, Nicks, Jennings, Julio Jones, and Victor Cruz. Not to mention the 1.04, 1.05, and 1.08.I'm guessing you are team A? I'd say it's a fair deal. If I was as high as you on hunter I'd probably love it.Non PPR league12 Teams, start qb, 2rb, 2wr, te, 1flex(rb, wr, te), k, defstandard scoring (4pts td for QBs)Team A gave up Dalton, Andy CIN QB; Brown, Antonio PIT WR; Year 2012 Draft Pick 1.11;Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.09Team B gave up Hunter, Kendall SFO RB;Rodgers, Jacquizz ATL RB; Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.01
If Hunter/Rodgers are so good, why do they have to wait for an aging RB to be done. They should be able to overtake them.Most definitely, I think Rodgers has a very good chance at being a top 10 RB once Turner is done in Atlanta. Rodgers is more than a 3rd down back and those who discard him thinking this will be sorry. He's thicker and stronger than you think and he will be a PPR monster some day.Since you are just as high on Rodgers as you are Hunter you think they are both future top 10 RBs? Curious on what you see out of Rodgers that makes him even starter worthy....Yes, that would be me. I like Rodgers just as much as Hunter. I won this league last year with only MJD and Rice as my RBs and you can start 3. I could afford to let Dalton and Brown go because I have Brees, Bradford, Nicks, Jennings, Julio Jones, and Victor Cruz. Not to mention the 1.04, 1.05, and 1.08.I'm guessing you are team A? I'd say it's a fair deal. If I was as high as you on hunter I'd probably love it.Non PPR league12 Teams, start qb, 2rb, 2wr, te, 1flex(rb, wr, te), k, defstandard scoring (4pts td for QBs)Team A gave up Dalton, Andy CIN QB; Brown, Antonio PIT WR; Year 2012 Draft Pick 1.11;Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.09Team B gave up Hunter, Kendall SFO RB;Rodgers, Jacquizz ATL RB; Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.01

To be fair, the same could be said for LeShean McCoy or Ray Rice their first years. Not that I think Hunter or Rodgers will be like that, just sometimes guys have to wait their turn. For some reason I have a better feeling about Rodgers than Hunter, but I don't know why.If Hunter/Rodgers are so good, why do they have to wait for an aging RB to be done. They should be able to overtake them.Most definitely, I think Rodgers has a very good chance at being a top 10 RB once Turner is done in Atlanta. Rodgers is more than a 3rd down back and those who discard him thinking this will be sorry. He's thicker and stronger than you think and he will be a PPR monster some day.Since you are just as high on Rodgers as you are Hunter you think they are both future top 10 RBs? Curious on what you see out of Rodgers that makes him even starter worthy....Yes, that would be me. I like Rodgers just as much as Hunter. I won this league last year with only MJD and Rice as my RBs and you can start 3. I could afford to let Dalton and Brown go because I have Brees, Bradford, Nicks, Jennings, Julio Jones, and Victor Cruz. Not to mention the 1.04, 1.05, and 1.08.I'm guessing you are team A? I'd say it's a fair deal. If I was as high as you on hunter I'd probably love it.Non PPR league12 Teams, start qb, 2rb, 2wr, te, 1flex(rb, wr, te), k, defstandard scoring (4pts td for QBs)Team A gave up Dalton, Andy CIN QB; Brown, Antonio PIT WR; Year 2012 Draft Pick 1.11;Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.09Team B gave up Hunter, Kendall SFO RB;Rodgers, Jacquizz ATL RB; Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.01![]()
What he said.To be fair, the same could be said for LeShean McCoy or Ray Rice their first years. Not that I think Hunter or Rodgers will be like that, just sometimes guys have to wait their turn.If Hunter/Rodgers are so good, why do they have to wait for an aging RB to be done. They should be able to overtake them.Most definitely, I think Rodgers has a very good chance at being a top 10 RB once Turner is done in Atlanta. Rodgers is more than a 3rd down back and those who discard him thinking this will be sorry. He's thicker and stronger than you think and he will be a PPR monster some day.Since you are just as high on Rodgers as you are Hunter you think they are both future top 10 RBs? Curious on what you see out of Rodgers that makes him even starter worthy....Yes, that would be me. I like Rodgers just as much as Hunter. I won this league last year with only MJD and Rice as my RBs and you can start 3. I could afford to let Dalton and Brown go because I have Brees, Bradford, Nicks, Jennings, Julio Jones, and Victor Cruz. Not to mention the 1.04, 1.05, and 1.08.I'm guessing you are team A? I'd say it's a fair deal. If I was as high as you on hunter I'd probably love it.Non PPR league12 Teams, start qb, 2rb, 2wr, te, 1flex(rb, wr, te), k, defstandard scoring (4pts td for QBs)Team A gave up Dalton, Andy CIN QB; Brown, Antonio PIT WR; Year 2012 Draft Pick 1.11;Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.09Team B gave up Hunter, Kendall SFO RB;Rodgers, Jacquizz ATL RB; Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.01![]()
Give me the other side on this one. I think you can get an equal RB to Bradshaw in Millar, Martin or Wilson at the 1.9 in most rookie drafts. Felix is better than Jacobs in PPR and Cook is still a nice young TE who really came on at end of the yearI must be on the higher end, as I love this deal for the side getting Bradshaw/Jacobs.Trade from a league I commish. 12 team, ppr, QB/2RB/3WR/TE/FLEX/K/DTeam A gives: A. BradshawB. JacobsTeam B gives: F. JonesJ. Cook1.09Interesting valuation on Bradshaw IMO - some have him ranked higher, some not so much.
Interesting. I guess I just don't see rookie picks in mid-late rd 1 being worth a guy like Bradshaw; too much uncertainty with those picks for my liking. I'll take the safer bet in Bradshaw and be thrilled about it. -We all have different approaches.Give me the other side on this one. I think you can get an equal RB to Bradshaw in Millar, Martin or Wilson at the 1.9 in most rookie drafts. Felix is better than Jacobs in PPR and Cook is still a nice young TE who really came on at end of the yearI must be on the higher end, as I love this deal for the side getting Bradshaw/Jacobs.Trade from a league I commish. 12 team, ppr, QB/2RB/3WR/TE/FLEX/K/DTeam A gives: A. BradshawB. JacobsTeam B gives: F. JonesJ. Cook1.09Interesting valuation on Bradshaw IMO - some have him ranked higher, some not so much.
I like the Bradshaw side here, too.I must be on the higher end, as I love this deal for the side getting Bradshaw/Jacobs.Trade from a league I commish. 12 team, ppr, QB/2RB/3WR/TE/FLEX/K/DTeam A gives: A. BradshawB. JacobsTeam B gives: F. JonesJ. Cook1.09Interesting valuation on Bradshaw IMO - some have him ranked higher, some not so much.
Indeed, this one is interesting.I think I like the Harvin side a little better. Turner plugs the hole left by Bradshaw for a year. But to upgrade desean to Harvin (and it's a decent upgrade, imho), that's worth it.This is an interesting trade involving Bradshaw. Pretty balanced, imho. I value the Bradshaw/D Jackson side a bit more, personally. Turner's age and lack of rec's is a ding to his value. And really, I guess I feel like Bradshaw (due to inj's) and Jackson (due to various antics) are better than they showed in 2011.'gianmarco said:1 pprTeam A receives: Turner/HarvinTeam B receives: Bradshaw/DeSean
The Cam believer grossly overpaid.'Multiple Scores said:Nice trade from a Cam believer.'TheWick said:1 PPRGaveCam NewtonPierre ThomasGotRay RiceBen Roethlisberger
From dynasty startup drafts I've seen since the season ended, Cam is going 1.06 or after, with Rice going anywhere between 1.01 and 1.03 overall. Give me the Rice side on this one.How do you see the top 4 going EBF? I left off your 1.5 for obvious reasons.Did this a couple days ago in a 12 team ppr dynasty:GIVEMark IngramGET1.05 rookie pickStings to sell low-ish on Ingram after just one year, but I love the top 5-6 picks in this rookie draft. I already "earned" the 1.01 in this league, so Ingram will be replaced in my backfield by Trent Richardson.
Second trade is pretty even. But prefer Team B in the first trade. I trust Bradford more than Lynch, and the 1.04 will be a solid player.12 team PPRA gave: Bradford/1.04B gave: Lynch/2013 3rdC gave: Jordy Nelson/James Jones/2014 3rdD gave: E Bennett/Hankerson/2012 1.06
No clue. I was surprised to count at least 5 guys I like more than Ingram, so I'll be happy no matter what. I think the NFL draft will have a huge impact on rookie draft results. A lot of the people ranking Luck and Griffin ahead of players like David Wilson and Doug Martin will have some serious difficulty pulling the trigger in the 3-5 range if one or two of those backs land in starting roles in the first round. It's just a lot easier to find a starting QB for your FF team than a starting RB. I think Richardson and Blackmon will be top 3 picks in almost every PPR league. Beyond that, I'd say it will vary between Luck, Griffin, Miller, Martin, Wilson, Floyd, and Wright depending on what happens over the next couple months.How do you see the top 4 going EBF? I left off your 1.5 for obvious reasons.Did this a couple days ago in a 12 team ppr dynasty:GIVEMark IngramGET1.05 rookie pickStings to sell low-ish on Ingram after just one year, but I love the top 5-6 picks in this rookie draft. I already "earned" the 1.01 in this league, so Ingram will be replaced in my backfield by Trent Richardson.
Like that deal for you. I think Gresham is worth the 1.09-1.10 in standard PPR leagues. There is not a lot to get excited about once you get past the top 8-9 prospects in this draft, IMO.Recently inherited an orphan team with crap at TE, but a bunch of picks in the late 1st/early 2nd:Gave:2.01Got:Gresham