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2013 Browns Rookie Draft (1 Viewer)

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If you aren't a Browns fan, get the eff out. We dont do playoffs. We barely do winning (though, I must admit this season gave me plenty of hope).... So I like to start this early...

Let's try to cheer ourselves up a bit.

Who is our 1st pick going to be?

The Dream is Te'o, but the odds he falls is next to zero... so let's be real.

Milliner? After passing on Claiborne, do we grab a studddddd CB this year?

Werner? Will he be available?

or do we go OT and snack down on Mathews or Joeckel?

Not too big on any of the WRs... but maybe we dont have a choice?

Anyone?

 
couldn't wait one more week for the draft order to be set?
...and another couple of weeks to lock down a coach and GM?
c'mon MAC... I dont care what the coach or GM will want...I'm talking about us... the fans. If we were in the boardroom.Damn, some of you are too serious. If you're down with watching week 17 and then folding your laundry... then, cool. Me, I wanna make believe.. you know.. kinda like fantasy football
 
From Walter Football:

7. Cleveland Browns: Manti Te'o, LB, Notre Dame

Manti Te'o makes lots of sense for the Browns if Damontre Moore and Jarvis Jones are off the board. He could either play the middle, which would move D'Qwell Jackson to a more natural weakside position, or they could just station Te'o at strongside linebacker, where he would replace the soon-to-be-retired Scott Fujita. Regardless, an upgrade at linebacker is desperately needed.

Woot woot!

 
couldn't wait one more week for the draft order to be set?
...and another couple of weeks to lock down a coach and GM?
c'mon MAC... I dont care what the coach or GM will want...
Hypothetically speaking, Brandon Weeden makes absolutely no sense on this team if Chip Kelly is hired. This is the most extreme example I can think of, but the direction of the offseason changes significantly depending on the coaching and GM hires.I mentally checked out from the Browns sometime during the 2nd half of that Redskins debacle, seems most of the team did too. Broncos game was background fodder only while we were out with family and friends, I hope there's another game on this week so I can tune into that instead of our trainwreck - otherwise I'll probably go to the gym then play with my kids in the snow until real games come on later. I'll gear myself up again next week, probably, very depressing team, tired of being unwatchable in December...
 
Walter says it's Te'o.That'd work, or gimme a cb.
Te'o would be ideal, but Milliner wouldn't be a bad consolation prize.
I can't see Te'o dropping to us at around the 6-8 pick... but Id cry tears of joy if he did. Absolute beast.Milliner is what Ill expect since we seemed to be wavering on Richardson/Claiborne last season (or so it seemed)... So he makes perfect sense. Another monster
 
i like Teo but I suspect that the national champ game is gonna be a long night for him. Also I wonder if Jarvis Jones goes as high as everyone believes. He supposedly runs a 4.7 and has an injury history.

 
i like Teo but I suspect that the national champ game is gonna be a long night for him. Also I wonder if Jarvis Jones goes as high as everyone believes. He supposedly runs a 4.7 and has an injury history.
I think Clev has a real shot at J. Jones falling to them. The main reason is that people will reach for QBs, probably 2 go in the top 6, and the Dline is so stacked that LBs could easily fall.
 
i like Teo but I suspect that the national champ game is gonna be a long night for him. Also I wonder if Jarvis Jones goes as high as everyone believes. He supposedly runs a 4.7 and has an injury history.
I think Clev has a real shot at J. Jones falling to them. The main reason is that people will reach for QBs, probably 2 go in the top 6, and the Dline is so stacked that LBs could easily fall.
If the raiders stay put... They are taking Jones. I dont see why on earth they wouldnt. Milliner seems like he'll be the pick, unless Te'o falls... man, I hope he does
 
i like Teo but I suspect that the national champ game is gonna be a long night for him. Also I wonder if Jarvis Jones goes as high as everyone believes. He supposedly runs a 4.7 and has an injury history.
I think Clev has a real shot at J. Jones falling to them. The main reason is that people will reach for QBs, probably 2 go in the top 6, and the Dline is so stacked that LBs could easily fall.
If the raiders stay put... They are taking Jones. I dont see why on earth they wouldnt. Milliner seems like he'll be the pick, unless Te'o falls... man, I hope he does
I disagree. I see Oak taking either Star Lotulelei or Damontre Moore. They need help on the Dline, bad. Many have Star as the best player in the entire draft. There is no way I see Oak passing on him. The team to worry about is Jack IMO. They could easily take Jones. Then again, they could just as easily reach for a QB or go Dline. Both are massive needs as well.
 
Best available DE. Bjorn Werner, for example.
Te'o, Milliner and Werner all sitting there for us at say.. #7.You really take him over Te'o? Reasoning? no knock, just discussion
He's a better overall player and plays a more in demand position. Te'o is a very good prospect but I think the ND success this year has overvalued him in NFL draft discussions. He is not a top 5 talent in this draft, perhaps not top 10. Werner is.
 
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Best available DE. Bjorn Werner, for example.
Te'o, Milliner and Werner all sitting there for us at say.. #7.You really take him over Te'o? Reasoning? no knock, just discussion
He's a better overall player and plays a more in demand position. Te'o is a very good prospect but I think the ND success this year has overvalued him in NFL draft discussions. He is not a top 5 talent in this draft, perhaps not top 10. Werner is.
No denying that, Werner is a freak, top 3 overall talent imo... just dunno if DE is a more pressing need than inside lb for us... i mean, we can use both.. and ya, Werner is the better talent. from what ive read and heard, while star is also a beast he is expected to fall pretty far to mid 1st... anyone know why? im about out of the loop on this one.

if werner is gone, would you 'reach' for demontre moore?

 
Best available DE. Bjorn Werner, for example.
Te'o, Milliner and Werner all sitting there for us at say.. #7.You really take him over Te'o? Reasoning? no knock, just discussion
He's a better overall player and plays a more in demand position. Te'o is a very good prospect but I think the ND success this year has overvalued him in NFL draft discussions. He is not a top 5 talent in this draft, perhaps not top 10. Werner is.
No denying that, Werner is a freak, top 3 overall talent imo... just dunno if DE is a more pressing need than inside lb for us... i mean, we can use both.. and ya, Werner is the better talent. from what ive read and heard, while star is also a beast he is expected to fall pretty far to mid 1st... anyone know why? im about out of the loop on this one.

if werner is gone, would you 'reach' for demontre moore?
I hadn't heard that negativity about Star. Any idea where you saw that?As for Moore, I have him rated higher than Werner and as the best DE in the class. If he is there for Clev I'd say its a steal, not a reach.

 
Best available DE. Bjorn Werner, for example.
Te'o, Milliner and Werner all sitting there for us at say.. #7.You really take him over Te'o? Reasoning? no knock, just discussion
He's a better overall player and plays a more in demand position. Te'o is a very good prospect but I think the ND success this year has overvalued him in NFL draft discussions. He is not a top 5 talent in this draft, perhaps not top 10. Werner is.
No denying that, Werner is a freak, top 3 overall talent imo... just dunno if DE is a more pressing need than inside lb for us... i mean, we can use both.. and ya, Werner is the better talent. from what ive read and heard, while star is also a beast he is expected to fall pretty far to mid 1st... anyone know why? im about out of the loop on this one.

if werner is gone, would you 'reach' for demontre moore?
I hadn't heard that negativity about Star. Any idea where you saw that?As for Moore, I have him rated higher than Werner and as the best DE in the class. If he is there for Clev I'd say its a steal, not a reach.
I wish I could remember... Ive looked at so many sites/articles, and in some I saw some really low draft picks for him.. and some were very high. who knows, maybe more my imagination...

moore rated higher than werner? ya?

 
Top 10 in this draft IMO;

L. Joeckel

S. Lotulelei

D. Moore

J. Jones

B. Werner

D. Milner

T. Lewan

J. Hankins

B. Mingo

D. Jordan

Subject to change of course.

 
well seeing how our draft is set up for next year, do we try to hit a homerun with that 1st rounder or play it safe?

 
The thing that Te'o brings, in addition to good skills, is leadership ability. That's why he's probably worth a top 5 pick.
I don't usually buy into predraft hype, but I just get this gut feeling about Te'o... he's not the best or the most skilled.. but my gut says he's going to be an elite NFL player. not just on the field w stats, but in the locker room and in the media
 
well seeing how our draft is set up for next year, do we try to hit a homerun with that 1st rounder or play it safe?
I'm not sure what you see as the difference but IMO, you always take the BPA on you're board. Especially early in the draft.I'm assuming you are concerned that Clev holds no 2nd. If the team shares your concern they could easily trade that pick and move back in the 1st. There will still be a solid prospect at the 10-15 range and they could grab a 2nd or 3rd.My guess is there will be a player they love falling to them at that pick and they will pull the trigger though. Like I said before the fact that 2 QBs could realistically go prior to their pick means elite talent falls IMO.
 
Put me in the camp that says they have to take Werner if he's OTB. I'm sorry, but he blows Te'o away from a talent standpoint. He also appears to be a good citizen with a great work ethic and is known as a film junkie.

 
Put me in the camp that says they have to take Werner if he's OTB. I'm sorry, but he blows Te'o away from a talent standpoint. He also appears to be a good citizen with a great work ethic and is known as a film junkie.
He started playing football just five years ago. Lots of ceiling there.
 
i like Teo but I suspect that the national champ game is gonna be a long night for him. Also I wonder if Jarvis Jones goes as high as everyone believes. He supposedly runs a 4.7 and has an injury history.
I think Clev has a real shot at J. Jones falling to them. The main reason is that people will reach for QBs, probably 2 go in the top 6, and the Dline is so stacked that LBs could easily fall.
If the raiders stay put... They are taking Jones. I dont see why on earth they wouldnt. Milliner seems like he'll be the pick, unless Te'o falls... man, I hope he does
First round LBers taken over the past ten years.-Bold top-ten picked LBers-

Year No. Round Pick Player Name Team College

2012

1 9 Luke Kuechly Panthers Boston College

1 25 Dont'a Hightower Patriots Alabama

2011

1 2 Von Miller Broncos Texas A&M

1 16 Ryan Kerrigan Redskins Purdue

2010

1 8 Rolando McLain Raiders Alabama

1 13 Brandon Graham Eagles Michigan

1 19 Sean Weatherspoon Falcons Missouri

1 31 Jerry Hughes Colts Texas Christian

2009

1 4 Aaron Curry Seahawks Wake Forest

1 13 Brian Orakpo Redskins Texas

1 15 Brian Cushing Texans USC

1 16 Larry English Chargers Northern Illinois

1 26 Clay Matthews Packers USC

2008

1 9 Keith Rivers Bengals USC

1 10 Jerod Mayo Patriots Tennessee

2007

1 11 Patrick Willis 49ers Mississippi

1 15 Lawrence Timmons Steelers Florida State

1 25 Jon Beason Panthers Miami (FL)

2006s 1 3 0 0 Ahmad Brooks Bengals Virginia

2006

1 5 A.J. Hawk Packers Ohio State

1 9 Ernie Sims Lions Florida State

1 13 Kamerion Wimbley Browns Florida State

1 17 Chad Greenway Vikings Iowa

1 18 Bobby Carpenter Cowboys Ohio State

1 22 Manny Lawson 49ers North Carolina State

2005

1 12 Shawne Merriman Chargers Maryland

1 15 Derrick O. Johnson Chiefs Texas

2004

1 12 Jonathan Vilma Jets Miami (FL)

1 17 D.J. Williams Broncos Miami (FL)

2003

1 29 Nick Barnett Packers Oregon State

Lately the top picked LBers have panned out but overall taking a LBer with a top ten pick isn't the greatest value unless they are uber-pass rushers.

None of the top corners seem to be true shut down corners at this point but it is really early in the game. We haven't got a clue who the new HC will be. Hopefully Heckertt stays at GM. Hopefully Juron stays at DC. We also don't know who will or won't enter the draft, we don't know the Indy invites and haven't seen the Senior Bowl but I'm hearing no true shut-down CBs identified in this draft class. Don't know a thing about the pass rushers and really don't like the idea of an inside linebacker with a top-ten pick especially since we have D'Q and he's still in his prime.

Bottom line, I haven't got a clue yet but LB typically isn't a great pick in the top ten because, well they don't perform as top-ten picks unless they 'sic' pass rush skills ALA Von Miller/Aldon Smith.

Maybe have a shot at an undersized edge pass rusher as they typically fall in that top-ten top-fifteen range that the Browns will be selecting and their 'usually' a couple of guys but its hit-miss.

I'd luv a true shut-down CB to start opposite of Joe Haden but not seeing it this draft. Maybe if a cover FS is their then that might be a good pick but I haven't got a clue about this draft class yet.

 
I think they want Te'o and I think he'll be there. He's not an elite prospect. I'm not really sure which LB position he's going to excel at in the NFL. I could see him being decent at any of them, but not great at any. He gives leadership and is one of the best in an area of need though, so he's got to be on the short list for the Browns.

 
I think they want Te'o and I think he'll be there. He's not an elite prospect. I'm not really sure which LB position he's going to excel at in the NFL. I could see him being decent at any of them, but not great at any. He gives leadership and is one of the best in an area of need though, so he's got to be on the short list for the Browns.
I'm sure he's on their list... The problem is, where on their list? Seeing as we'll be picking around the 7 spot, you have the 'luxury' of being able to like a few guys and just taking whichever falls to you. Seems the way things are shaping up, we'll have our pick of some pretty elite names (which at this moment in time are more talented than te'o), but as I said earlier... Te'o gives me this gut feeling of someone who will shine.. and leadership ability can never be underestimated, especially on a growing team like da browns.milliner, te'o, jones, star, werner... they'll have a star regardless me thinks.
 
If we draft Te'o then I am worried about him and DQ co-existing. Same position, both have great leadership qualities, but put two great leaders in the same spot (one young guy and another who should start declining in the next couple years) and friction is likely to result. There's a team dynamic here that worries me. If you could tell me DQ will be the good soldier, serve as mentor for Te'o, accept a move to WILL at some point, then thank the team for the opportunity when he is handed his walking papers after 2014 (big raise coming then) then hell yeah make the pick. Can't guarantee that though.

I love me some Te'o and he is absolutely worth a top 10 pick, just not sure this is the right team.

 
if the Browns are ever going to be a good team, they will have to let go of this type of thinking: where is our biggest need? will someone else's ego be bruised?

you draft the best player on the board. the one who has the talent to go to Pro Bowls, and could retire wearing a Browns jersey. nothing else matters.

 
you draft the best player on the board. the one who has the talent to go to Pro Bowls, and could retire wearing a Browns jersey. nothing else matters.
Well, yeah, but is Te'o that much better than the top pass rushers and corners available? If he is then you pick him, if he isn't then other factors must be considered. Pass rusher and corner are premium positions and also needs, if there's a similar caliber talent available that fits what we need/are going to do then that pick probably makes more sense because we already have a quality starting MIKE.
 
i have no idea whats what with the rookies yet. hell, we don't even know when they will be picking yet.

my point is that you don't pass up the next Ray Lewis cause you already have a good mike

seems like bad GMs weigh position of need or scarcity too much in their valuations instead of just looking at the players themselves. good GMs pick players based on how good they think they will be in the NFL.

 

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