***2013 Chicago Bears Offseason Thread*** (1 Viewer)

[flapgreen]

Doh!

 

[Jason Wood]

Looks like it is officialhttp://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/254186/report-bears-hire-trestman-to-replace-lovieI personally wanted Arians, but this is a risky play that can do well or blow up in their faces.

You can say that for any hire. Ultimately, fail or succeed, it's an inspired choice. Trestman has tons of NFL experience, has remained in demand as a QB guru in recent years all the while coaching in the CFL to great success, he's shown a willingness to augment his play-calling to suit his team's personnel (even going so far as to completely abandon the WCO in NC State), and has fielded very productive offenses with the likes of Rich Gannon (who became a completely different player under Trestman's watch) and Elvis Grbac of all people.

 

[whitem0nkey]

McCoy was my #1 choice but Trestman was my second pick, so I'm pretty stoked. ESPN says he will bring in Aaron Kromer as offensive coordinator and offensive line coach. Curious to see what happens on defense. I can see Marinelli being the DC and I can also see making a clean break and bringing in someone new, glad it's not my call. Come on free agency/draft/2013!

they say mccoy rather work with rives then cutler

 

[whitem0nkey]

if all fail at least we have this

 

[Statcruncher]

The video clip that popped into my head after reading about the newest Bears.

 

[flapgreen]

Phil Emery is the smartest guy in the league, probably the world. Look at how thorough his search was! Look at his damn glasses!!1!

 

[flapgreen]

Go to hell, Bears! That's it. That's the last mistake I'll ever see by this team. You're just another joke of the many in Bears history, Emery. As long as you continue your run of 1st round busts and terrible head coaches, you will fit in just fine around here. You should've waited another year and brought in Lane Kiffin, though. He's a good guy.

Hey hey hey....Phil Emery doesn't make wrong decisions. Ask around.

Neither did Jumpin Jerry. Ask around on that, too.

 

[flapgreen]

I think this hire could really work out, especially if they let him use 12 players.

 

[whitem0nkey]

@BMarshallHeard so many GREAT things about Coach Trestman can't wait to follow his lead. Reading his book now

 

[RBM]

Sounds like Marinelli is staying on.

 

[Area51Inhabitant]

Once upon a time, this guy was a hot commodity but for whatever reason didn't make the leap from offensive/QB guru to NFL head coach at the time. It just seems strange to see him get his shot now having been away from the NFL for so long and coming from Canada which isn't the standard route that most coaches use to get an NFL HC gig. He's got a ton of experience in coaching offense and QB's but his lack of personnel experience makes this also seem like a strange hire as well.

 

[RBM]

Joe DeCamillis assistand head coach/special teams coach

 

[whitem0nkey]

Joe DeCamillis will be Bears assistant head coach, special teams coordinator, sources say.

 

[RBM]

Guess I'm still blocked

 

[Statcruncher]

Joe DeCamillis will be Bears assistant head coach, special teams coordinator, sources say.

Meh, not overly excited about this. I live in Dallas so I see quite a bit of the Cowboys, can't say I've seen anything noteworthy from their special teams.

 

[GoodLloydHaveMercy]

I know its a bit early to go into speculation as to what type of current players on this Bears team would get a boost in value from this hiring of treastman but I am very intrigued with what he plans to do with Evan Rodriguez. To me he seems like he would be a great fit for that hybrid H-Back role and the CFL doesn't have TEs. They have Slotbacks.I imagine Rodriguez skill set would match closer to what Treastman used in the CFL than anybody else currently on that roster.It is something I will be watching especially since Matt Waldman's write-up of Rodriguez in the 2012 RSP says the following...quote"If Rodriguez can show some skill as a receiver versus impending contact, work off the jam, and display enough speed to stretch the intermediate seam in the NFL, he could eventually contribute or start for a squad that likes to use its TE ends on the wing or the slot."I realize as a FB this may not happen but I dont believe a FB in a conventional sense is something that Treastman used in the CFL

 

[Nucker101]

Living in Canada, and seeing a few of his games I can tell you that's hes definitely a solid HC from what I've seen(FWIW I'm basically a casual CFL fan).

 

[RBM]

Heard somewhere today, from some reporter that covers that team, that Forte is going to catch a lot of passes.

 

[Raider Nation]

Living in Canada, and seeing a few of his games I can tell you that's hes definitely a solid HC from what I've seen(FWIW I'm basically a casual CFL fan).

How did he do against the Roughriders? Or how about against the Rough Riders?

 

[whitem0nkey]

Living in Canada, and seeing a few of his games I can tell you that's hes definitely a solid HC from what I've seen(FWIW I'm basically a casual CFL fan).

Montreal Allouettes QB Anthony Calvillo was on local radio here, and I am impressed with the was he was saying about Trestman.

 

[Psychopav]

Tim Brown was surprised that he was even considered. He didn't think of him as HC material.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Tim Brown was surprised that he was even considered. He didn't think of him as HC material.

Yeah, but that guy thinks Sean Austin is really Rudy

 

[whitem0nkey]

10 thing about Trestman.Has won two Canadian Football League championships in three Grey Cup appearances in five seasons as head coach of the Montreal Alouettes. The Alouettes were 8-10 the season prior to Trestman’s arrival. They are 59-31 with four division titles since.Was offensive coordinator for the Raiders when QB Rich Gannon won the NFL’s MVP award and the Raiders won the Super Bowl in 2002. Gannon’s career completion percentage was 57.8 percent before Trestman coached him and 66.8 in 2 seasons under Trestman.With Trestman as O-C, the 49ers led the NFL in scoring (28.6 ppg) and passing (299 ypg) with Steve Young (92.3 rating in 11 starts) and Elvis Grbac (96.6 rating in five starts) in 1995. Young led the NFL in passer rating (97.2) in 1996.The Cardinals, with Jake Plummer at QB, made the playoffs for the first time in 16 years with Trestman as O-C and QB coach in 1998. In 6 seasons with the Cardinals, Plummer was 9-7 under Trestman and 21-45 with anybody else as O-C.Inheriting team in Montreal that had allowed 68 sacks in 2007, Trestman adjusted QB Anthony Calvillo’s drops from five steps to three. Alouettes allowed 22 sacks in 2008, Calvillo threw 43 TDs (after throwing 17 in '07) and was named CFL’s MVP.Calvillo, a strong-armed CFL gunslinger, had an average passer rating of 94.9 prior to Trestman’s arrival. In first 3 seasons under Trestman — at age 36-38 — Calvillo had passer ratings of 107.2, 108.4 and 108.1 (101 TDs, 26 INTs total).Trestman went to playoffs in first season with the Browns (1988), 49ers (1995), Lions (1997), Cardinals (1998) and Raiders (2001). Won a national title in first year as QB coach with Miami (1983) and went to Grey Cup in first season with the AlouettesAfter 2-4 start in 2005 as O-C at N.C. State, Trestman ditched the West Coast offense, changed quarterbacks and went to a running attack. The Wolfpack went 5-1 after the switch, including a win over Georgia in the Meineke Car Care Bowl.Trestman recruited QB Russell Wilson . to NC State in 2006, acknowledging his lack of height but calling Wilson one of the most accurate QBs he had ever seen. But head coach Chuck Amato was fired and Wilson never played for Trestman.Trestman was finalist for the University of Miami opening that went to Al Golden in 2011, though he reportedly took his name out of consideration. He also interviewed for the Colts opening last year that went to Chuck Pagano (above).

 

[whitem0nkey]

Before Marc Trestman came to Montreal, Anthony Calvillo went into games with about 75-100 plays. After Trestman arrived? 145-160.

 

[Christo]

I've been as critical of this organization as anyone but I don't know why people are torching this move. I like it.

Just look at who's torching it.The NFL is an offensive league. No reason living in the past. Trestman had a lot of success in Montreal in a short time. With him they won two championships, were runner-up another year and set a franchise record for points scored in a season.

 

[whitem0nkey]

I've been as critical of this organization as anyone but I don't know why people are torching this move. I like it.

Just look at who's torching it.The NFL is an offensive league. No reason living in the past. Trestman had a lot of success in Montreal in a short time. With him they won two championships, were runner-up another year and set a franchise record for points scored in a season.

A Canadian football fan called into 670AM the Score in chicago, referred to him as the Canadian Belichick.

 

[Limp Ditka]

I've been as critical of this organization as anyone but I don't know why people are torching this move. I like it.

Just look at who's torching it.The NFL is an offensive league. No reason living in the past. Trestman had a lot of success in Montreal in a short time. With him they won two championships, were runner-up another year and set a franchise record for points scored in a season.

A Canadian football fan called into 670AM the Score in chicago, referred to him as the Canadian Belichick.

If that doesn't convince you...

 

[SmoovySmoov]

Well, I for one am going to ##### for years about the offensive line, and then when they hire an offensive minded coach, ##### about that, too. Oh, nevermind. I see flapgreen has already taken care of that.

 

[RBM]

I've been as critical of this organization as anyone but I don't know why people are torching this move. I like it.

Just look at who's torching it.The NFL is an offensive league. No reason living in the past. Trestman had a lot of success in Montreal in a short time. With him they won two championships, were runner-up another year and set a franchise record for points scored in a season.

You really think he was hired for his CFL resume?

 

[Limp Ditka]

I've been as critical of this organization as anyone but I don't know why people are torching this move. I like it.

Just look at who's torching it.The NFL is an offensive league. No reason living in the past. Trestman had a lot of success in Montreal in a short time. With him they won two championships, were runner-up another year and set a franchise record for points scored in a season.

You really think he was hired for his CFL resume?

You really think it was completely disregarded?

 

[RBM]

I've been as critical of this organization as anyone but I don't know why people are torching this move. I like it.

Just look at who's torching it.The NFL is an offensive league. No reason living in the past. Trestman had a lot of success in Montreal in a short time. With him they won two championships, were runner-up another year and set a franchise record for points scored in a season.

You really think he was hired for his CFL resume?

You really think it was completely disregarded?

Not completely disregarded. I'd say it possibly had a minor impact, being that his teams didn't suck over there. No secret why he was hired. We needed a coach that's going to get the most out of Cutler. He's got an impressive history of coaching up qbs....NFL qbs

 

[RBM]

Bears | Tim Brown a critic of Marc Trestman Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:06:36 -0800 Former NFL WR Tim Brown said he has doubts whether Chicago Bears head coach Marc Trestman will succeed with his new team. Brown played under Trestman, who once served as offensive coordinator with the Oakland Raiders. Brown wonders whether Trestman has the leadership skills to lead an NFL team. "(There's a lot more to coaching than just Xs and Os," Brown said. "You have to be able to deal with players and that's the reason (former Oakland Raiders head coach) Bill Callahan hasn't succeeded as a head coach. Because he's a smart guy, knows football like the back of his hand, but when it comes to leading (men), it's a totally different intangible you have to have. It's going to be very interesting to see how (Trestman) and Jay Cutler get along, that's for sure."

 

[flapgreen]

Well, I for one am going to ##### for years about the offensive line, and then when they hire an offensive minded coach, ##### about that, too. Oh, nevermind. I see flapgreen has already taken care of that.

I'm here for you, brohan.

 

[maxwelledison]

I've been as critical of this organization as anyone but I don't know why people are torching this move. I like it.

Just look at who's torching it.The NFL is an offensive league. No reason living in the past. Trestman had a lot of success in Montreal in a short time. With him they won two championships, were runner-up another year and set a franchise record for points scored in a season.

I'm with you on that. Further, a lot of the critics make no sense; they ask why he hasn't been a HC before as if that is an indictment. Let's remember this is a league that gave Wanny and Jauron not one but 2 shots at a HC position, amongst other laughable nods to guys that had already proven they had no business taking that spot. In short, I don't see how his "failure to land an HC job" has any bearing on anything.

 

[avina1]

Couple of crazy/exciting days for Bears fans. Is it possible that Lovie Smith doesn't even get HC gig this year? All that is left are the Jaguars and Cardinals HC positions... and for some reason I don't see Lovie being a DC for anyone.

 

[avina1]

And where does Tice go now? Somewhere else to be an offensive line coach or stay on with the Bears at another position?

 

[whitem0nkey]

Couple of crazy/exciting days for Bears fans. Is it possible that Lovie Smith doesn't even get HC gig this year? All that is left are the Jaguars and Cardinals HC positions... and for some reason I don't see Lovie being a DC for anyone.

i think it has been confirmed that he will sit for a years collect his 5 mil, and try next year as he does not want to be a coordinator

 

[RBM]

Well, I for one am going to ##### for years about the offensive line, and then when they hire an offensive minded coach, ##### about that, too. Oh, nevermind. I see flapgreen has already taken care of that.

I'm here for you, brohan.

I guess now that we have an offensive minded head coach the o line problems are gone.

 

[drummer]

"GONE!" - Eddie D on Trestman coming back during George Seifert's "retirement" presser.

 

[whitem0nkey]

Tim Brown was surprised that he was even considered. He didn't think of him as HC material.

Yeah, but that guy thinks Sean Austin is really Rudy

"The year he took over as offensive coordinator is also the year my reign with the Raiders ended because he made Jerry the No. 1 receiver instead of myself," Brown said. "The year before I made the Pro Bowl and caught [91 passes for 1,165 yards] ... and the year afterwards, the year he takes over I think I came like 50 yards from catching 1,000 yards in 10 or 11 straight seasons."he has an axe to grind, and his butt hurts.

 

[RBM]

Some buzz on various twitter feeds that Marinelli will not be staying on. Being recruited heavily by Monte Kiffin in Dallas.Not good.

 

[flapgreen]

Now let me hear how that's a good thing...No Toub. No Marinelli. Replace Lovie with a CFL coach who has barely done anything in the NFL in 10 years.

 

[flapgreen]

-Brian Urlacher. Fate was sealed with Lovie's firing and running your mouth about the fans. Always said Briggs was the better LB in Chicago.

It's amazing how little you know about football. Briggs has always been the better LB? lol. ok. I find it funny how quickly you are to support every decision made by management at the time, but then so quick to drop Urlacher because you think he ran his mouth when he shouldn't have while taking up for his team. I guess he's that replaceable to you. Just let him walk, eh? Thanks for the memories?

-Henry Melton. Great athlete and is essentially the Tommie Harris pre-injuries. Very quick and disruptive. He needs to be resigned, but will be costly.

Melton ain't pre-injury Tommie Harris, not even close. They will re-sign him a higher cost, but not a top 5 guy, because he's not a top 5 guy.

-Jonathan Scott. Bring him back at a swing tackle price.

Definitely. Found a good backup or even starter there for a while.

-Julius Peppers. Great player since he came to Chicago(better than expected). Didn't have a great year, injuries...perhaps old age(turns 33). However, his contract the next 3 years= 12.9, 13.9, 16.5 million. Too much money for the production and could be used in better ways.

-DL. Wootton/McClellin/Melton/Paea is a pretty good young group. Wootton and McClellin are the future

If you're saying they won't find a way to restructure and keep Peppers, you're nuts. They won't go into the season with Shea and Wooten as starters with an aging Idonije(always been a huge idonije fan). Shea definitely has not showed he's ready to start, not even close. Not sure where you're getting that from. Wooten managed to stay healthy last year, but had not for almost every previous year of his career. He had a good year, though. Paea was average at best last year. Shea looked like a little ##### getting pushed aroundNick Roach will be cheap. I think they'll keep him.

I say they will cut or release Rachal, Spencer, Moore, Campbell, Hayden

Will keep Spaeth at what he does for cheap.

-Devin Hester. Hasn't been a good returner lately and has a roster bonus of $10 million in the spring that deescalates...meaning it's performance based. Either way, he isn't worth $2 million at this point. Will never be the WR some YOU imagined and isn't the returner right now. What's the point of wasting a roster spot?

Way off on this one as well. They will keep him and his much more valuable than you're implying, much like Peppers and Urlacher.Don't know the cap hit Davis will give yet. If it won't affect the cap much, they will keep him. Have to figure in how big of a cap hit it will be first.

-CB. This is a big need. Tim Jennings and Charles Tillman are UFA after the 2013 season. Behind them, it's scary. Chicago has no good nickel DB to matchup with Randall Cobb/Percy Harvin/other good slot WRs.

Nowhere near the top in needs.Definitely don't re-sign Cutler right away.

Need at least 2 more quality wrs.

Need another backup qb

Need a good pass catching te

Need about every damn thing on OL, at least a couple new guys will get us headed in the right direction.

Hardin is a bum and hasn't been healthy for his entire football life. Conte/Wright could be a decent combo, but my confidence in Wright is fading fast and I'm a little concerned about the frequency of Conte's injuries.

Basically, your plan is to tear the team down and rebuild it again. Get rid of Urlacher, Hester and Peppers. That sound right? From hearing what Emery had to say and with the pieces we have in place, that's not happening either, especially with the lose of Toub and Marinell looming. That will take a huge toll on the defense and ST alone. Step back into reality, Benson. You should hang out here more often.

 

[flapgreen]

Really like what Wannstedt had to say about Trestman on NFL radio. I'll step back from the ledge for now. Really hope Marinelli stays.

 

[whitem0nkey]

Tim Brown was surprised that he was even considered. He didn't think of him as HC material.

Yeah, but that guy thinks Sean Austin is really Rudy

"The year he took over as offensive coordinator is also the year my reign with the Raiders ended because he made Jerry the No. 1 receiver instead of myself," Brown said. "The year before I made the Pro Bowl and caught [91 passes for 1,165 yards] ... and the year afterwards, the year he takes over I think I came like 50 yards from catching 1,000 yards in 10 or 11 straight seasons."he has an axe to grind, and his butt hurts.

they also have a j rice quote where he complains about Trestman, and a year later after he made him the #1 WR he praises him. that's how WR are.

 

[SmoovySmoov]

Well, I for one am going to ##### for years about the offensive line, and then when they hire an offensive minded coach, ##### about that, too. Oh, nevermind. I see flapgreen has already taken care of that.

I'm here for you, brohan.

I guess now that we have an offensive minded head coach the o line problems are gone.

First off, where did I say they were gone? Secondly, it's obvious that the Bears defensive minded coach ignored the line for years. Would you say that an offensive minded coach is more likely or less likely to address it?Jeebus, you're dumb.

 

[whitem0nkey]

Rod Marinelli will NOT return as the Bears Defensive Coordinator. Replacement unknown at this point.

 

[Statcruncher]

Rod Marinelli will NOT return as the Bears Defensive Coordinator. Replacement unknown at this point.

Link?

 

[whitem0nkey]

Rod Marinelli will NOT return as the Bears Defensive Coordinator. Replacement unknown at this point.

Link?

link

 

[RBM]

Well, I for one am going to ##### for years about the offensive line, and then when they hire an offensive minded coach, ##### about that, too. Oh, nevermind. I see flapgreen has already taken care of that.

I'm here for you, brohan.

I guess now that we have an offensive minded head coach the o line problems are gone.

First off, where did I say they were gone? Secondly, it's obvious that the Bears defensive minded coach ignored the line for years. Would you say that an offensive minded coach is more likely or less likely to address it?Jeebus, you're dumb.

I'm dumb? It's the general managers job in Chicago to deliver the personnel. Has been for years.Get a clue before you run your mouth.