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LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla. • With their young daughters sharing a birthday party together and the dads certain to need a distraction at some point, former Cardinals lefty Mark Mulder fired a text to former Cardinals righty Kyle Lohse and said he should bring his glove to the party.

Mulder sensed Lohse’s confusion and texted a tease.

“I’ve got to show you something,” was the gist of it.

Mulder, 36, last threw a pitch in a major-league game on July 9, 2008, for the Cardinals. He was 30-years-old, in the prime of his career, and already had 103 wins in the majors. But his shoulder was rebelling against him, his mechanics and health pulling it in different directions.

Mulder had two shoulder surgeries lead him toward retirement and during a couple attempted returns with the Cardinals even tried to become a sidearmer at one point.


Well into his second baseball career as a television analyst with ESPN, Mulder was watching LA reliever Paco Rodriguez and how he separated his pitching hand from his glove. On a lark, Mulder tried to mimic the lefty one day and – voila!

“It was like I found a shortcut that I had been missing, a way to get my arm back where it needed to be,” Mulder said Tuesday night from his home in Arizona. “I never threw a single pitch like I did in St. Louis. Not one time. There wasn’t a single pitch that I threw for the Cardinals that I threw feeling this well. I was doing it on smoke and mirrors. That year I won 16 games (2005), I had no breaking ball, no cutter. I was getting by on the sinker, split. I knew how to pitch. I could somewhat locate. I got away with being a groundball guy that year.

“That’s why I have to give this a shot.”

Mulder, 36, has let his agent and others know that he would like to return to the mound for the 2014 season. He has been throwing every three days and ramping up to prepare for spring training. He intends to throw for several interested teams.

The Cardinals and Mulder are not likely to have mutual interest.

Mark Ellis, a friend and a free agent that has drawn some interest from the Cardinals, recently stood in to judge Mulder’s pitches from a batter’s point of view. He’s asked former big-leaguer Pat Burrell for help.

And he’s been egged on by Lohse.

The two pitchers became teammates with the Cardinals and friends through the offseason. They live close together. They vacation together. They golf together. Their families are close. And on that one birthday-party afternoon they played catch. Mulder told Lohse that he just “wanted to see if something is working.” They played catch, and all of the issues that Mulder had finding his arm slot, swinging his arm, and getting anything on his pitches had faded – either with time or with the new wrinkle in his mechanics.

“It became really exciting,” Mulder said. “I don’t know where this goes. All I know is I want to try. I get up there now (on the mound) and I don’t want to stop. I want to keep this going. I want to see what’s still possible. I’ve got to give it a shot.”

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/after-playing-catch-with-lohse-mulder-attempts-comeback/article_bd362343-b5fb-5260-9c73-66bf397acc3c.html

 
Question: A guy like Morales or Stephen Drew, who's market is greatly hampered by draft pick compensation, could one of those guys just go to Japan for a year and then come back the next year without the proverbial millstone around their neck? Youk got 5mm from Ratuken, which seems like about what he'd get in the states.
They're free agents so they can sign anywhere they like, but they should both get more than 5 mil here regardless of draft pick compensation. And 5 mil seems to be on the top end of the pay scale for foreigners in Japan.

Also, when Lohse took forever to sign, the reports were that if he waited until after the Rule IV draft the draft pick compensation would expire. Don't see why signing in Japan for a year would change that at all.

 
Mulder hasn't pitched in 6 years :lol: Can't believe someone gave him a million bucks
As Bob posted, he's coming back. Not a bad move to gamble on him for such a pitching starved team. Just don't get the guaranteed million, but perhaps I read the contract wrong. He can make up to 6 million through incentives.

 
Mulder hasn't pitched in 6 years :lol: Can't believe someone gave him a million bucks
As Bob posted, he's coming back. Not a bad move to gamble on him for such a pitching starved team. Just don't get the guaranteed million, but perhaps I read the contract wrong.He can make up to 6 million through incentives.
It's $1M if he makes the opening day roster

 
Mulder hasn't pitched in 6 years :lol: Can't believe someone gave him a million bucks
As Bob posted, he's coming back. Not a bad move to gamble on him for such a pitching starved team. Just don't get the guaranteed million, but perhaps I read the contract wrong.He can make up to 6 million through incentives.
It's $1M if he makes the opening day roster
Clear your inbox, old guy.

 
Mulder hasn't pitched in 6 years :lol: Can't believe someone gave him a million bucks
As Bob posted, he's coming back. Not a bad move to gamble on him for such a pitching starved team. Just don't get the guaranteed million, but perhaps I read the contract wrong.He can make up to 6 million through incentives.
It's $1M if he makes the opening day roster
Clear your inbox, old guy.
Are you going to send me $1M?

 
Colby Rasmus removed from Jays winter tour schedule... :unsure:
What is a winter tour?
Players make appearances in the offseason in cities all over the country to meet fans in different areas, part of Jays being marketed as "Canada's Team". They usually do Canadian things like curling for media attention and make appearances in large community centres to sign autographs and kiss babies.
 
Colby Rasmus removed from Jays winter tour schedule... :unsure:
What is a winter tour?
Players make appearances in the offseason in cities all over the country to meet fans in different areas, part of Jays being marketed as "Canada's Team". They usually do Canadian things like curling for media attention and make appearances in large community centres to sign autographs and kiss babies.
Probably had some hittin' lessons lined up with Coach Daddy.

 
Colby Rasmus removed from Jays winter tour schedule... :unsure:
What is a winter tour?
Players make appearances in the offseason in cities all over the country to meet fans in different areas, part of Jays being marketed as "Canada's Team". They usually do Canadian things like curling for media attention and make appearances in large community centres to sign autographs and kiss babies.
The Cardinals Caravan is a big hit with small towns that are in the Cards radio network.

 
I find it interesting that the Red Sox admitted to at least talking to Tanaka's agent. I can't see them shelling out $120 million to get in the race (which would include the posting fee) when Lester could walk after the 2014 season. That will also be something to monitor, as Lester seemed to always be a piece in potential trades the past few seasons. I wonder if letting him walk at 31 is something they would consider.

 
Raider Nation said:
Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengaleThe #Dodgers have let it be known they plan to go all-out in their efforts to sign Tanaka, saying they certainly won't be out-bid.
The Yankees are in on him too right? I've been wanting to see a showdown like this with the new ownerships. I give the edge to the Dodgers.

 
Buddy just posted on Facebook that Arod is suspended for the season. Will look for a link now
What are the Yanks' options now? Anything? Can they release him and not owe him money for conduct detrimental or anything like that? They don't have to pay 2014 salary, right?

 
Buddy just posted on Facebook that Arod is suspended for the season. Will look for a link now
What are the Yanks' options now? Anything? Can they release him and not owe him money for conduct detrimental or anything like that? They don't have to pay 2014 salary, right?
Yeah they get out from under the 2014 salary, but still on the hook for the rest of it. Until he starts juicing again and gets caught a third time.

 
According to Wallace Matthews of ESPN New York, Alex Rodriguez has every intention of reporting to spring training with the Yankees.
There's really not anything that the team can do to stop him from doing so, as his suspension doesn't begin until the start of the regular season. It's very clear that A-Rod isn't going down without a fight on this issue, and will do everything in his power to continue to seek exoneration.
 
Buddy just posted on Facebook that Arod is suspended for the season. Will look for a link now
What are the Yanks' options now? Anything? Can they release him and not owe him money for conduct detrimental or anything like that? They don't have to pay 2014 salary, right?
Yeah they get out from under the 2014 salary, but still on the hook for the rest of it. Until he starts juicing again and gets caught a third time.
This is only his first suspension under the JDA. If he were to fail a test, his suspension would actually be shorter - 100 games. More evidence of what a crock this witchhunt has been.

 
Buddy just posted on Facebook that Arod is suspended for the season. Will look for a link now
What are the Yanks' options now? Anything? Can they release him and not owe him money for conduct detrimental or anything like that? They don't have to pay 2014 salary, right?
Yeah they get out from under the 2014 salary, but still on the hook for the rest of it. Until he starts juicing again and gets caught a third time.
This is only his first suspension under the JDA. If he were to fail a test, his suspension would actually be shorter - 100 games. More evidence of what a crock this witchhunt has been.
First suspension, but he already held a press conference in 2009 to address his use from 01-03, and now this covers his usage from 09-12

 

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