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2013 KEEPER HELP (1 Viewer)

14-team 5x5 roto. Keep 5. Here's my list:Alex AvilaPeter BourjosMike CarpCoco CrispEdwin EncarnacionDanny EspinosaJeff FrancoeurChris HeiseyJohn MayberryEduardo NunezCarlos PeñaEric ThamesVernon Wells PitchersBrandon BeachyRafael BetancourtRubby De La RosaDaniel HudsonMark MelanconIvan NovaSergio SantosRight now I'm leaning toward: Espinosa, Nunez, Beachy, Santos and BetancourtI like Mayberry if he starts. I was also very impressed with Encarnacion in the second half last season. I like Hudson; I've had him for two years and he's pretty reliable, but none of the gaudy #s that will help win a league.
I've already completely changed my mind. Looking at going with Santos, Betancourt, Beachy, Hudson and Vernon Wells. I still like Nunez, if he has a role that'll get him 450-500 ABs.
Hudson, Beachy, Avila, Bourjos, and the closer you feel more comfortable with.
 
I need to keep 5. Please note there is no value tied to each player & I play in a points league where pitcher scoring is a little ridiculous. Thus pitchers have more value than most leagues. Ill just list the guys who are in the mix and bold the ones Im planning on keeping right now. I can only keep these players for two more years. I can use some advice:

JUpton

JReyes

Grienke

Kennedy

McCann

Sandoval

Morse

Cruz

Pence

Please note I traded away Kershaw for Reyes & Marcum in this league last year and wanted to kill myself. I also traded away Cabrera for JUp & Price and then turned around and traded away Price for Kennedy & Sandoval to shore up my playoff run.
I'd keep Sandoval, Cruz, and Pence before Kennedy. Who you keep among those 3 depends on the type of league. Pence is the conservative play, but conservative doesn't usually win leagues. Pablo apparently fattened up again, so I'd want to keep Cruz over him but if it's usually harder to find 3B's than OF's like most leagues I'd gamble on Pablo.
 
'Matthias said:
10 team 5X5 roto. We start 2 at each INF position and 5 OF. No UTIL. Keep 3 players, but the catch is you can only keep players for one year. Last year I kept Halladay, Hamilton, and Youkilis so I have to throw them back. This year I have Kemp as a no-brainer. I also have Hamels, who I am pretty sold on keeping. I am leaning towards Hosmer as my #3. Anyone disagree?
Hosmer > Holliday? :no:
I admit, I have a decent sized man-crush on Hosmer. I'm also kinda down on Holliday. Seems lately that he's always dinged and I think his production is sure to take a hit sans Pujols. The fact that I'm already keeping an OF is factoring in as well. There aren't going to be many stud 1B's to draft by the looks of things.
I'm down on Holiday too, but I think you're looking at the wrong 1B. Konerko should be set for a stronger 2012. If all goes well for Hosmer he might equal Konerko. If you could keep him more than one year it'd be one thing but this is just for 2012. Go Konerko.
 
14-team 5x5 roto. Keep 5. Here's my list:Alex AvilaPeter BourjosMike CarpCoco CrispEdwin EncarnacionDanny EspinosaJeff FrancoeurChris HeiseyJohn MayberryEduardo NunezCarlos PeñaEric ThamesVernon Wells PitchersBrandon BeachyRafael BetancourtRubby De La RosaDaniel HudsonMark MelanconIvan NovaSergio SantosRight now I'm leaning toward: Espinosa, Nunez, Beachy, Santos and BetancourtI like Mayberry if he starts. I was also very impressed with Encarnacion in the second half last season. I like Hudson; I've had him for two years and he's pretty reliable, but none of the gaudy #s that will help win a league.
I've already completely changed my mind. Looking at going with Santos, Betancourt, Beachy, Hudson and Vernon Wells. I still like Nunez, if he has a role that'll get him 450-500 ABs.
I'd go Avila, Espinosa, Hudson, Nova, Santos.
Nova over Beachy? I can't do that.
You're right. I always forget how low Nova's K numbers were. Better league/ballpark for Beachy too. Beachy is the play here.
 
'Captain Hook said:
'Matthias said:
10 team AL only 5X5 (OBP, not BA) $260 cap 7 keepers

The 5 guys highlighted are penciled in already. Curious if anyone has issues with these 5, but I'm more interested who you would fill in at the last 2.

2 Avila

10 Bautista

18 Mike Young

19 Kornerko

1 Hafner

25 Ellsburry

27 Beckett

18 Pineda

13 D Bard

11 Bailey
Beckett and either Young or Konerko
Thanks.Verlander, CC, Haren and King Felix are all available in the draft, but Aces go for big bucks in my Legg. I hate to pay the $27 for Beckett, but it keeps me out of the Ace market.

I'm leaning Korky over Young. Young is very well rounded but the only guys left in the draft that have a realistic shot at 30 bombs are Pujols, Prince, Reynolds and Beltre. I guess what I'm saying is there is a premium on power.

I'll be spending more then 8 teams by my projections but nobody has my tallent and I'm not forced to get into any bidding wars. That in it's self makes spending the money pre drat worth it IMHO.
Verlander, CC, Haren and King Felix are all available in the draft, but Aces go for big bucks in my Legg. I hate to pay the $27 for Beckett, but it keeps me out of the Ace marketThis is very poor thinking and saddles you with overpaying for Beckett who is NOT an ace. I would rather pay more to get more.
OK - so what would you propose then?
 
I need to keep 5. Please note there is no value tied to each player & I play in a points league where pitcher scoring is a little ridiculous. Thus pitchers have more value than most leagues. Ill just list the guys who are in the mix and bold the ones Im planning on keeping right now. I can only keep these players for two more years. I can use some advice:

JUpton

JReyes

Grienke

Kennedy

McCann

Sandoval

Morse

Cruz

Pence

Please note I traded away Kershaw for Reyes & Marcum in this league last year and wanted to kill myself. I also traded away Cabrera for JUp & Price and then turned around and traded away Price for Kennedy & Sandoval to shore up my playoff run.
I'd keep Sandoval, Cruz, and Pence before Kennedy. Who you keep among those 3 depends on the type of league. Pence is the conservative play, but conservative doesn't usually win leagues. Pablo apparently fattened up again, so I'd want to keep Cruz over him but if it's usually harder to find 3B's than OF's like most leagues I'd gamble on Pablo.
Kennedy scored 200 pts more than those guys last year. I know hes in for a downswing but this league really favors pitching. Im trying to trade him straight up for Stanton. If that doesnt go well, Ill just keep him
 
10 team AL only 5X5 (OBP, not BA) $260 cap 7 keepers

The 5 guys highlighted are penciled in already. Curious if anyone has issues with these 5, but I'm more interested who you would fill in at the last 2.

2 Avila

10 Bautista

18 Mike Young

19 Kornerko

1 Hafner

25 Ellsburry

27 Beckett

18 Pineda

13 D Bard

11 Bailey

Beckett and either Young or Konerko

OK - so what would you propose then?
First do you HAVE to keep 7? - because often the right play is to have the extra slot openI would keep

Avila 2

Bautista 10

Konerko 19

Ellsbury 25

Pineda 18

Bailey 11

If you have/want to keep a seventh player I would keep Michael Young - you would then have the flexibility to already have your CI stocked or move Bautista to the OF if you get a great buy of either a 1B or 3B

Note - both Young and Konerko are projected to earn the same $22

Both Pineda and Beckett are projected roughly the same so why pay the extra $

 
'shadyridr said:
I need to keep 5. Please note there is no value tied to each player & I play in a points league where pitcher scoring is a little ridiculous. Thus pitchers have more value than most leagues. Ill just list the guys who are in the mix and bold the ones Im planning on keeping right now. I can only keep these players for two more years. I can use some advice:

JUpton

JReyes

Grienke

Kennedy

McCann

Sandoval

Morse

Cruz

Pence

Please note I traded away Kershaw for Reyes & Marcum in this league last year and wanted to kill myself. I also traded away Cabrera for JUp & Price and then turned around and traded away Price for Kennedy & Sandoval to shore up my playoff run.
I'd keep Sandoval, Cruz, and Pence before Kennedy. Who you keep among those 3 depends on the type of league. Pence is the conservative play, but conservative doesn't usually win leagues. Pablo apparently fattened up again, so I'd want to keep Cruz over him but if it's usually harder to find 3B's than OF's like most leagues I'd gamble on Pablo.
Kennedy scored 200 pts more than those guys last year. I know hes in for a downswing but this league really favors pitching. Im trying to trade him straight up for Stanton. If that doesnt go well, Ill just keep him
How many of those points were from wins? I see several equal or better pitchers with at least a half dozen less wins than Kennedy and I don't think he's a sub 3 ERA pitcher. In my prelim rankings I have him as my 33rd pitcher, he's not a bad pitcher but he isn't going to win you any leagues. If you can parlay him into a guy like Stanton you absolutely have to take that deal. I'm trying to figure out if I have to take him before the 3rd round to get him because this time next year I expect him to be a top 15 pick.In the end, you can find guys like Kennedy in the draft.

 
'Captain Hook said:
10 team AL only 5X5 (OBP, not BA) $260 cap 7 keepers

The 5 guys highlighted are penciled in already. Curious if anyone has issues with these 5, but I'm more interested who you would fill in at the last 2.

2 Avila

10 Bautista

18 Mike Young

19 Kornerko

1 Hafner

25 Ellsburry

27 Beckett

18 Pineda

13 D Bard

11 Bailey

Beckett and either Young or Konerko

OK - so what would you propose then?
First do you HAVE to keep 7? - because often the right play is to have the extra slot openI would keep

Avila 2

Bautista 10

Konerko 19

Ellsbury 25

Pineda 18

Bailey 11

If you have/want to keep a seventh player I would keep Michael Young - you would then have the flexibility to already have your CI stocked or move Bautista to the OF if you get a great buy of either a 1B or 3B

Note - both Young and Konerko are projected to earn the same $22

Both Pineda and Beckett are projected roughly the same so why pay the extra $
You don't have to keep 7, but in this situation it would make no sense not to. Reason being is inflation is going to push prices up so that all three of Korky, Young and Beckett will go for more then my keeper price. Frankly I'll be happy with any combination of the 7. My first cut has Beckett on the outside looking in as well. Thanks.

 
'Matthias said:
Someone talk to me about Matt Joyce. I can keep him for extremely cheap but is he going to be a platoon player in 2012?
Theoretically no - Joyce will be in RF except for those games when Zobrist is in the OF - figure 470 AB which should give you high teens in HR and low teens in SB. Should be a very good cheaper UNLESS you are in a very shallow league where everybody has an All Star team and you need everyone in your lineup to have 550+ AB
 
'Matthias said:
'Matthias said:
Someone talk to me about Matt Joyce. I can keep him for extremely cheap but is he going to be a platoon player in 2012?
Theoretically no - Joyce will be in RF except for those games when Zobrist is in the OF - figure 470 AB which should give you high teens in HR and low teens in SB. Should be a very good cheaper UNLESS you are in a very shallow league where everybody has an All Star team and you need everyone in your lineup to have 550+ AB
12-team league with 4 OFers, 2 Util spots, and 6 Bench spots of which generally people use 2 of them for hitters. So not deep deep for OFers but deep enough.
Mixed or ALAL he is obviously a good play but I suspect you mean Mixed in which case he does not get enough AB ...Unless you have transactions more than once a week where I would sub him in against most RH starters
 
Joyce only makes sense in leagues as deep or equal to 12 team 5 OF mixed leagues. He really isn't that strong of a 5th of to be honest, but he's a fine fall back option if you still have a hole in round 20something and are looking at guys like him, Reimold, Boesch, etc.

 
Got a tough one:

5X5 average league

keep 10-12 Auction $260 5 year keeper max

I have seven hitters identified as well as three starters and a closer.

I have Matt Cain in year four at $23 and Yovani Gallardo in year two at $19 (Players go up in price $5 in years 3 and five or you can option the third year with no raise). I think Cain is the safer choice, but Gallardo still has some room to grow and a little higher ceiling. The other starters I'm keeping are James Shields, Adam Wainwright and probably Jair Jurrjens. I would keep both but I'm already at around $140 so I don't want to handcuff myself as these guys are about where they should be as far as salary. Thoughts?

 
'Matthias said:
'Matthias said:
'Matthias said:
Someone talk to me about Matt Joyce. I can keep him for extremely cheap but is he going to be a platoon player in 2012?
Theoretically no - Joyce will be in RF except for those games when Zobrist is in the OF - figure 470 AB which should give you high teens in HR and low teens in SB. Should be a very good cheaper UNLESS you are in a very shallow league where everybody has an All Star team and you need everyone in your lineup to have 550+ AB
12-team league with 4 OFers, 2 Util spots, and 6 Bench spots of which generally people use 2 of them for hitters. So not deep deep for OFers but deep enough.
Mixed or ALAL he is obviously a good play but I suspect you mean Mixed in which case he does not get enough AB ...Unless you have transactions more than once a week where I would sub him in against most RH starters
Mixed. Daily moves. Roto. 6x6 with BA, OBP, HR, TB, SB-CS, and R+RBI-HR
In the league he is a perfect reserve to platoon with someone who is great against LHP - play the daily matchup
 
Got a tough one:5X5 average leaguekeep 10-12 Auction $260 5 year keeper maxI have seven hitters identified as well as three starters and a closer.I have Matt Cain in year four at $23 and Yovani Gallardo in year two at $19 (Players go up in price $5 in years 3 and five or you can option the third year with no raise). I think Cain is the safer choice, but Gallardo still has some room to grow and a little higher ceiling. The other starters I'm keeping are James Shields, Adam Wainwright and probably Jair Jurrjens. I would keep both but I'm already at around $140 so I don't want to handcuff myself as these guys are about where they should be as far as salary. Thoughts?
I would rather have Cain than Gallardo for this year and the four dollars is not a big enough deal to make that the consideration
 
Got a tough one:5X5 average leaguekeep 10-12 Auction $260 5 year keeper maxI have seven hitters identified as well as three starters and a closer.I have Matt Cain in year four at $23 and Yovani Gallardo in year two at $19 (Players go up in price $5 in years 3 and five or you can option the third year with no raise). I think Cain is the safer choice, but Gallardo still has some room to grow and a little higher ceiling. The other starters I'm keeping are James Shields, Adam Wainwright and probably Jair Jurrjens. I would keep both but I'm already at around $140 so I don't want to handcuff myself as these guys are about where they should be as far as salary. Thoughts?
I have those 2 valued equally, so it comes down to cost and what the rest of your staff looks like. As long as you can overcome the WHIP issues Gallardo is the play. With Shields and Wainwright in tow (to be honest unless it's a deep league or he only costs a $1 I think you can find better than Jair in the auction) I think you're good. Just be careful in the draft, you'll need a Baker, McCarthy, or a Gavin Floyd late instead of a Norris or Billingsley.
 
'MAC_32 said:
'Captain Hook said:
In the league he is a perfect reserve to platoon with someone who is great against LHP - play the daily matchup
...but do you burn a keeper on a platoon reserve?
Depends on the opportunity cost - Not if it means you have to release someone more valuable.....also what is the price - we have him projected to earn quite a bit so you would be freezing profit IMO
 
My annual minor league keeper situation (H2H Points league, no negative values). I need to rule out three of the players from this list. What three would you remove, or what seven would you keep? The positions I listed are their positions on CBS.

Gary Sanchez, C, NYY

Matt Adams, 1B, STL

Chih-Hsien Chiang, SS (should be OF I think), SEA

Wilmer Flores, SS, NYM

Todd Frazier, SS/3B, CIN

Jaff Dacker, OF, SD

Leonys Martin, OF, TEX

Chris Archer, SP, TB

Deck McGuire, SP, TOR

Mark Rogers, SP, MIL

Some of these guys are easy keepers, probably about 4-5 of them, but I'll keep my thoughts quiet. I stunk last year at finding guys mid season to add to my minor league roster and this is what I ended up with. I've traded some of my better prospects over the years to make championship pushes or whatever...guys like Alonso, M. Taylor, Maybin and a few others.

 
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Got a tough one:5X5 average leaguekeep 10-12 Auction $260 5 year keeper maxI have seven hitters identified as well as three starters and a closer.I have Matt Cain in year four at $23 and Yovani Gallardo in year two at $19 (Players go up in price $5 in years 3 and five or you can option the third year with no raise). I think Cain is the safer choice, but Gallardo still has some room to grow and a little higher ceiling. The other starters I'm keeping are James Shields, Adam Wainwright and probably Jair Jurrjens. I would keep both but I'm already at around $140 so I don't want to handcuff myself as these guys are about where they should be as far as salary. Thoughts?
:coffee:
 
My annual minor league keeper situation (H2H Points league, no negative values). I need to rule out three of the players from this list. What three would you remove, or what seven would you keep? The positions I listed are their positions on CBS.Gary Sanchez, C, NYYMatt Adams, 1B, STLChih-Hsien Chiang, SS (should be OF I think), SEAWilmer Flores, SS, NYMTodd Frazier, SS/3B, CINJaff Dacker, OF, SDLeonys Martin, OF, TEXChris Archer, SP, TBDeck McGuire, SP, TORMark Rogers, SP, MILSome of these guys are easy keepers, probably about 4-5 of them, but I'll keep my thoughts quiet. I stunk last year at finding guys mid season to add to my minor league roster and this is what I ended up with. I've traded some of my better prospects over the years to make championship pushes or whatever...guys like Alonso, M. Taylor, Maybin and a few others.
I would removeChiang (I agree is Of, Nick Franklin is the next SS and Peguero on his heels)RogersFrasier - may make the Reds roster out of spring training as a bench/platoon player but has no value for you minors roster in either case
 
My annual minor league keeper situation (H2H Points league, no negative values). I need to rule out three of the players from this list. What three would you remove, or what seven would you keep? The positions I listed are their positions on CBS.Gary Sanchez, C, NYYMatt Adams, 1B, STLChih-Hsien Chiang, SS (should be OF I think), SEAWilmer Flores, SS, NYMTodd Frazier, SS/3B, CINJaff Dacker, OF, SDLeonys Martin, OF, TEXChris Archer, SP, TBDeck McGuire, SP, TORMark Rogers, SP, MILSome of these guys are easy keepers, probably about 4-5 of them, but I'll keep my thoughts quiet. I stunk last year at finding guys mid season to add to my minor league roster and this is what I ended up with. I've traded some of my better prospects over the years to make championship pushes or whatever...guys like Alonso, M. Taylor, Maybin and a few others.
I tend to put a greater priority on batters in the minors, especially when talking about pitchers outside of the top 50 that are more than 20 years old. So Rogers and McGuire are the first two to go for me. Frazier would be the first bat to go. Capt Hook said why. He's a UTIL INF at best.Seriously though, you can dispose of Chiang and Dacker too. Maybe even Flores. I'm in a 12 team dynasty league with 10 man minor league squads too and none of those guys are on my draft list. I think you can find better in the draft.
 
My annual minor league keeper situation (H2H Points league, no negative values). I need to rule out three of the players from this list. What three would you remove, or what seven would you keep? The positions I listed are their positions on CBS.Gary Sanchez, C, NYYMatt Adams, 1B, STLChih-Hsien Chiang, SS (should be OF I think), SEAWilmer Flores, SS, NYMTodd Frazier, SS/3B, CINJaff Dacker, OF, SDLeonys Martin, OF, TEXChris Archer, SP, TBDeck McGuire, SP, TORMark Rogers, SP, MILSome of these guys are easy keepers, probably about 4-5 of them, but I'll keep my thoughts quiet. I stunk last year at finding guys mid season to add to my minor league roster and this is what I ended up with. I've traded some of my better prospects over the years to make championship pushes or whatever...guys like Alonso, M. Taylor, Maybin and a few others.
I tend to put a greater priority on batters in the minors, especially when talking about pitchers outside of the top 50 that are more than 20 years old. So Rogers and McGuire are the first two to go for me. Frazier would be the first bat to go. Capt Hook said why. He's a UTIL INF at best.Seriously though, you can dispose of Chiang and Dacker too. Maybe even Flores. I'm in a 12 team dynasty league with 10 man minor league squads too and none of those guys are on my draft list. I think you can find better in the draft.
This is a 14-team league...so there are 20 more rostered.That said, I did get lazy last year with my minors, besides grabbing Adams mid season.I have not really come up with a good process on how to find the right guys pre-draft or during the season. I know minor league baseball players are generally a crapshoot, but still. Pre-draft I'll go to a few sources like BA and put their top 100's next to each other and just draft from them. During the season, I don't really know where to look besides BA's hot list and BA's chat rundowns...and I'm sure that's not the best way to go.Do you publish your minor league list? :)
 
Got a tough one:5X5 average leaguekeep 10-12 Auction $260 5 year keeper maxI have seven hitters identified as well as three starters and a closer.I have Matt Cain in year four at $23 and Yovani Gallardo in year two at $19 (Players go up in price $5 in years 3 and five or you can option the third year with no raise). I think Cain is the safer choice, but Gallardo still has some room to grow and a little higher ceiling. The other starters I'm keeping are James Shields, Adam Wainwright and probably Jair Jurrjens. I would keep both but I'm already at around $140 so I don't want to handcuff myself as these guys are about where they should be as far as salary. Thoughts?
Keep both and trade Wainwright to a Boston based owner in the league :thumbup:
 
My annual minor league keeper situation (H2H Points league, no negative values). I need to rule out three of the players from this list. What three would you remove, or what seven would you keep? The positions I listed are their positions on CBS.Gary Sanchez, C, NYYMatt Adams, 1B, STLChih-Hsien Chiang, SS (should be OF I think), SEAWilmer Flores, SS, NYMTodd Frazier, SS/3B, CINJaff Dacker, OF, SDLeonys Martin, OF, TEXChris Archer, SP, TBDeck McGuire, SP, TORMark Rogers, SP, MILSome of these guys are easy keepers, probably about 4-5 of them, but I'll keep my thoughts quiet. I stunk last year at finding guys mid season to add to my minor league roster and this is what I ended up with. I've traded some of my better prospects over the years to make championship pushes or whatever...guys like Alonso, M. Taylor, Maybin and a few others.
I tend to put a greater priority on batters in the minors, especially when talking about pitchers outside of the top 50 that are more than 20 years old. So Rogers and McGuire are the first two to go for me. Frazier would be the first bat to go. Capt Hook said why. He's a UTIL INF at best.Seriously though, you can dispose of Chiang and Dacker too. Maybe even Flores. I'm in a 12 team dynasty league with 10 man minor league squads too and none of those guys are on my draft list. I think you can find better in the draft.
This is a 14-team league...so there are 20 more rostered.That said, I did get lazy last year with my minors, besides grabbing Adams mid season.I have not really come up with a good process on how to find the right guys pre-draft or during the season. I know minor league baseball players are generally a crapshoot, but still. Pre-draft I'll go to a few sources like BA and put their top 100's next to each other and just draft from them. During the season, I don't really know where to look besides BA's hot list and BA's chat rundowns...and I'm sure that's not the best way to go.Do you publish your minor league list? :)
Shoot me a pm next week. My nerd project for the weekend is to make my minor league list. I had to activate Mesoraco, Jacob Turner, Teheran, Lawrie, and Dee Gordon from my squad last year. I was able to fill their holes with Szczur, Starling Marte, Tiujuan Walker, and Gose but still have 2 more holes to fill in our draft starting in 2 weeks. Need to do some research!Re in-season, best process I've come up with is to go to the minors website once every few weeks and see who is having strong years. I focus on AA leagues but time permitting I'll look at high A and AAA too. Filter usually based off of SB, HR, OBP, and SLG then usually check their K/BB rate. If I don't know anything about them I google news search them. Gose and Walker were on my radar preseason last year but Marte and Szczur cropped up in-season by that method.
 
'MAC_32 said:
'Bobcat10 said:
My annual minor league keeper situation (H2H Points league, no negative values). I need to rule out three of the players from this list. What three would you remove, or what seven would you keep? The positions I listed are their positions on CBS.Gary Sanchez, C, NYYMatt Adams, 1B, STLChih-Hsien Chiang, SS (should be OF I think), SEAWilmer Flores, SS, NYMTodd Frazier, SS/3B, CINJaff Dacker, OF, SDLeonys Martin, OF, TEXChris Archer, SP, TBDeck McGuire, SP, TORMark Rogers, SP, MILSome of these guys are easy keepers, probably about 4-5 of them, but I'll keep my thoughts quiet. I stunk last year at finding guys mid season to add to my minor league roster and this is what I ended up with. I've traded some of my better prospects over the years to make championship pushes or whatever...guys like Alonso, M. Taylor, Maybin and a few others.
I tend to put a greater priority on batters in the minors, especially when talking about pitchers outside of the top 50 that are more than 20 years old. So Rogers and McGuire are the first two to go for me. Frazier would be the first bat to go. Capt Hook said why. He's a UTIL INF at best.Seriously though, you can dispose of Chiang and Dacker too. Maybe even Flores. I'm in a 12 team dynasty league with 10 man minor league squads too and none of those guys are on my draft list. I think you can find better in the draft.
This is a 14-team league...so there are 20 more rostered.That said, I did get lazy last year with my minors, besides grabbing Adams mid season.I have not really come up with a good process on how to find the right guys pre-draft or during the season. I know minor league baseball players are generally a crapshoot, but still. Pre-draft I'll go to a few sources like BA and put their top 100's next to each other and just draft from them. During the season, I don't really know where to look besides BA's hot list and BA's chat rundowns...and I'm sure that's not the best way to go.Do you publish your minor league list? :)
Shoot me a pm next week. My nerd project for the weekend is to make my minor league list. I had to activate Mesoraco, Jacob Turner, Teheran, Lawrie, and Dee Gordon from my squad last year. I was able to fill their holes with Szczur, Starling Marte, Tiujuan Walker, and Gose but still have 2 more holes to fill in our draft starting in 2 weeks. Need to do some research!Re in-season, best process I've come up with is to go to the minors website once every few weeks and see who is having strong years. I focus on AA leagues but time permitting I'll look at high A and AAA too. Filter usually based off of SB, HR, OBP, and SLG then usually check their K/BB rate. If I don't know anything about them I google news search them. Gose and Walker were on my radar preseason last year but Marte and Szczur cropped up in-season by that method.
Will do, thanks. My keepers are not due til March 24th so I have quite a bit of time.Re in-season...actually that's how I landed Chiang IIRC...he was mashing (in Boston's system?), don't remember the level though. I think I only did that once last season, might have been when I picked up Adams too. Like I said, I do try to keep up on the Hot List and chat wraps on BA, but that's just relying on what people ask and who had one good week, albeit some good info does come out of them.
 
'Notorious T.R.E. said:
'MAC_32 said:
'shadyridr said:
Who would you rather keep: Ben Zobrist or Brian McCann?
2 catcher league, McCann.1 catcher league, McCann.

I don't like Zobrist, I feel like Aaron Hill is almost the exact same player and I can get him 100+ picks later.
Say what?
Aaron Hill's first season after his career year (103/36/108/6/.286)2010 - 70/26/68/2/.205 (138 games)

He pressed causing the average to tank and he was a bit lucky in 2009 but he's not that bad of a hitter either. So in 2011 he panicked and traded power for gap hitting and base running

2011 - 61/8/61/21/.246 (137 games)

In the end he's a .250 hitter that can hit 20+ HR's and steal 20+ bases.

Contrast that with Zobrist, who also had a career year in 2009 (91/27/91/17/.297)

Regression hit in 2010 and he pressed, not quite as bad as Hill but close

2010 - 77/10/75/24/.238

He made up for it in SB's though. 2011 he found the power stroke again, but his steals began to tail off and had it not been for his midseason hot streak his avg would have fell short of .250.

2011 - 99/20/91/19/.269

3 year avg Zobrist - 89/19/84/20/.268

3 year avg Hill - 78/23/89/9/.249

In the end can you really expect Zobrist's numbers to be that much different than Hill's? Zobrist went 44th in the KFFL Bad draft, I got Aaron Hill at pick 198. I took Asrdubal Cabrera 54th, the guy taking Zobrist took Pagan (others drafted around that neighborhood - Francouer, Tabata, Melky, and AUstin Jackson) when I took Hill. I think if you would rather have Zobrist + any of those guys than Asdrubal + Hill you're a crazy person.

 
'Notorious T.R.E. said:
'MAC_32 said:
'shadyridr said:
Who would you rather keep: Ben Zobrist or Brian McCann?
2 catcher league, McCann.1 catcher league, McCann.

I don't like Zobrist, I feel like Aaron Hill is almost the exact same player and I can get him 100+ picks later.
Say what?
Aaron Hill is a clown.Is Zobrist a lock to bat 2nd? I like him better than McCann. Catchers are so hard to get excited about. I'd love it if my league just dropped them all together.

 
12 team keeper auction. OBP, HR, R, RBI, SB and W, ERA, WHIP, K/BB, Holds+Saves are the categories. Large rosters - 2 of every hitter postion, 6 OF, 1 Util, 10 P. Draft quirk that each position must have 1 guy from each league (3 OF from each, 5 P from each). I get to keep 7 guys this year. Here's my choices:

Jesus Montero, C $0 (can keep him in the minors so he doesn't count against my draft budget)

Cameron Maybin, OF $1

Jonny Venters, P $1 (would have to bump him or Maybin to $4 if I kept both)

Hiroki Kuroda, P $4

Russell Martin, C $6

Geovany Soto, C $6

Mat Latos, P $7

Ben Revere, OF $7

Brandon Morrow, P $7

Yunel Escobar, SS $8

Michael Cuddyer, 1B/2B/OF $16

Justin Upton, OF $33

Thoughts?

 
12 team keeper auction. OBP, HR, R, RBI, SB and W, ERA, WHIP, K/BB, Holds+Saves are the categories. Large rosters - 2 of every hitter postion, 6 OF, 1 Util, 10 P. Draft quirk that each position must have 1 guy from each league (3 OF from each, 5 P from each). I get to keep 7 guys this year. Here's my choices:Jesus Montero, C $0 (can keep him in the minors so he doesn't count against my draft budget)Cameron Maybin, OF $1Jonny Venters, P $1 (would have to bump him or Maybin to $4 if I kept both)Hiroki Kuroda, P $4Russell Martin, C $6Geovany Soto, C $6Mat Latos, P $7Ben Revere, OF $7Brandon Morrow, P $7Yunel Escobar, SS $8Michael Cuddyer, 1B/2B/OF $16Justin Upton, OF $33Thoughts?
Get to keep 7 or have to keep 7?I would keep Maybin $4Venters $1Latos $7Revere $7Soto $6Cuddyer $16and would of course keep Montero in the minorsflip a coin for Escobar or Morrow for the seventh if needed
 
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Typical head-to-head league. Hits, average, HR, steals, runs, RBI, Total bases for offensive categories

Having trouble on one decision...Michael Morse or Desmond Jennnings.

Any info? Thanks.

 
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12 team keeper auction. OBP, HR, R, RBI, SB and W, ERA, WHIP, K/BB, Holds+Saves are the categories. Large rosters - 2 of every hitter postion, 6 OF, 1 Util, 10 P. Draft quirk that each position must have 1 guy from each league (3 OF from each, 5 P from each). I get to keep 7 guys this year. Here's my choices:Jesus Montero, C $0 (can keep him in the minors so he doesn't count against my draft budget)Cameron Maybin, OF $1Jonny Venters, P $1 (would have to bump him or Maybin to $4 if I kept both)Hiroki Kuroda, P $4Russell Martin, C $6Geovany Soto, C $6Mat Latos, P $7Ben Revere, OF $7Brandon Morrow, P $7Yunel Escobar, SS $8Michael Cuddyer, 1B/2B/OF $16Justin Upton, OF $33Thoughts?
Get to keep 7 or have to keep 7?I would keep Maybin $4Venters $1Latos $7Revere $7Soto $6Cuddyer $16and would of course keep Montero in the minorsflip a coin for Escobar or Morrow for the seventh if needed
You're dropping his only guarenteed power bat in JUpton. I'd keep him for sure, especially in a keeper league with any significant inflation.MonteroUptonMaybinEscobarVentersLatosCuddyerThis is all assuming 260 budget.
 
12 team keeper auction. OBP, HR, R, RBI, SB and W, ERA, WHIP, K/BB, Holds+Saves are the categories. Large rosters - 2 of every hitter postion, 6 OF, 1 Util, 10 P. Draft quirk that each position must have 1 guy from each league (3 OF from each, 5 P from each). I get to keep 7 guys this year. Here's my choices:Jesus Montero, C $0 (can keep him in the minors so he doesn't count against my draft budget)Cameron Maybin, OF $1Jonny Venters, P $1 (would have to bump him or Maybin to $4 if I kept both)Hiroki Kuroda, P $4Russell Martin, C $6Geovany Soto, C $6Mat Latos, P $7Ben Revere, OF $7Brandon Morrow, P $7Yunel Escobar, SS $8Michael Cuddyer, 1B/2B/OF $16Justin Upton, OF $33Thoughts?
Get to keep 7 or have to keep 7?I would keep Maybin $4Venters $1Latos $7Revere $7Soto $6Cuddyer $16and would of course keep Montero in the minorsflip a coin for Escobar or Morrow for the seventh if needed
You're dropping his only guarenteed power bat in JUpton. I'd keep him for sure, especially in a keeper league with any significant inflation.MonteroUptonMaybinEscobarVentersLatosCuddyerThis is all assuming 260 budget.
Budget is $300
 
Typical head-to-head league. Hits, average, HR, steals, runs, RBI, Total bases for offensive categoriesHaving trouble on one decision...Michael Morse or Desmond Jennnings.Any info? Thanks.
Morse for HR; Jennings for SBBUT I would keep Jennings for the upside
 
12 team keeper auction. OBP, HR, R, RBI, SB and W, ERA, WHIP, K/BB, Holds+Saves are the categories. Large rosters - 2 of every hitter postion, 6 OF, 1 Util, 10 P. Draft quirk that each position must have 1 guy from each league (3 OF from each, 5 P from each). I get to keep 7 guys this year. Here's my choices:Jesus Montero, C $0 (can keep him in the minors so he doesn't count against my draft budget)Cameron Maybin, OF $1Jonny Venters, P $1 (would have to bump him or Maybin to $4 if I kept both)Hiroki Kuroda, P $4Russell Martin, C $6Geovany Soto, C $6Mat Latos, P $7Ben Revere, OF $7Brandon Morrow, P $7Yunel Escobar, SS $8Michael Cuddyer, 1B/2B/OF $16Justin Upton, OF $33Thoughts?
In order of my top 300UptonMorrowCuddyerLatosMaybinMonteroYunelI'm not thrilled about Yunel but 24 SS will start and your other keeper options leave a lot to be desired.
 
Typical head-to-head league. Hits, average, HR, steals, runs, RBI, Total bases for offensive categoriesHaving trouble on one decision...Michael Morse or Desmond Jennnings.Any info? Thanks.
Absolutely Jennings.At best Morse is looking at a Werth-like career path and his K rate could cause problems. Jennings is good Carl Crawford re-incarnated. Might be 2 years out, but he'll still be better than Morse this year.
 
No love for Kuroda amongst my keepers, huh?
Kuroda is a very good pitcher but remember his numbers are a product of a very pitcher friendly Dodger Stadium. The move to New York, and the AL Beast will raise his ERA dramatically, his WHIP a little and decrease his strikeouts. The only thing to improve for him pitching for the Yankees will be his Win totals.
 
Typical head-to-head league. Hits, average, HR, steals, runs, RBI, Total bases for offensive categoriesHaving trouble on one decision...Michael Morse or Desmond Jennnings.Any info? Thanks.
Absolutely Jennings.At best Morse is looking at a Werth-like career path and his K rate could cause problems. Jennings is good Carl Crawford re-incarnated. Might be 2 years out, but he'll still be better than Morse this year.
Thank you! (Capt. Hook too)
 
No love for Kuroda amongst my keepers, huh?
The ball park change doesn't concern me much, but the NL West to the AL East transition certainly does. The strength of the bottom 2 teams are their bats and the Rays and Sox are two of the five best teams in the majors. Contrast with the NL West that has two of the worst offenses in the majors and two average ones - that both happen to have hitter friendly parks.I'd bet his ERA floats over 4, his WHIP is closer to 1.3 than 1.2, and his K rate drops by at least 1 per 9 IP's. Inrease in W's won't come close to off setting that. I used to love Kuroda as a value play, but...not this year.
 
What do you guys think of these moves I pulled off in my keeper league. Keep in mind its a H2H, pts league with scoring a bit more heavily weighted towards pitching. We keep 5.

I traded Reyes and my #8 pick for Castro, Shields, and #1 pick (which I plan on drafting Matt Moore)

I traded Shields & Zobrist for CSantana

So now my 5 keepers are JUp, Grienke, Castro, Santana, and one of Pence, Cruz, Sandoval, or Kennedy.

Who should be my 5th keeper? Im leaning Sandoval. Cruz always gets hurt, Pence is solid but not spectacular, Kennedy was awesome last year but I can get plenty of pitching in the next 2 rounds, and Sandoval is only 25 yrs old and pretty good at a shallow position.

 

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