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*** 2013 NFL Scouting Combine Thread *** (1 Viewer)
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Banemorth
Footballguy
You know I'm watching these guys out here and I know people keep saying that this draft is so much worse than last year, terrible, etc but besides quarterback I'm not really seeing any lack of talent. I think Lacy, Ball, Bernard, and Davis are pretty freaking awesome at RB. WR is LOADED. Patterson, Wheaton, Hunter, Allen, Hunter, Woods, and on and on and on. Eifert, Escobar and Ertz looked fantastic yesterday. I'm pretty pumped for the draft.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Will be interesting to see what the NFL thinks of Davis medically, and where he gets drafted. That fast and that big with solid production would be the #1 RB most years.
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Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
It's horrible. FOX would kill this thing.
cstu
Footballguy
Surprising time by Swope but he's fast in a straight line and I never saw him get caught from behind.
loose circuits
Footballguy
4.41 for Michael is another sleeper at his size because he's been hurt
beef
Footballguy
But then buck would have to call it and make it unlistenable.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Prior to his injury, he had the production to go along with it and was quite highly rated before missing 2011.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Expected faster from Randle and Ellington as well. Something was off with Ellington though.
deadlyrange0321
Footballguy
I really think we need to wait to see the 2nd 40 time from some of these guys. Thought a few looked really tight on their first run.
beef
Footballguy
Taylor is slow on the field. Not suprised by his time here.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Are you aware that he has some great tape out there, pre-injury? He's not a workout warrior, he's not Mario Fannin. He was my #2 RB pre-injury.
loose circuits
Footballguy
Disappointed in Burkhead. Thought he would break 4.6 and he didn't come close.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
@McShay13: WR Justin Hunter's broad jump of 11' 3" is tied for second-best since 2006.
beef
Footballguy
Ive always been high in davis. The what have you done for me lately crowd will now be back on board. That was the point.
Time Kibitzer
Footballguy
Exactly, that's why I said I was starting to come around on him..
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
They're going to be too busy going after "the next Chris Johnson" in Onterio McCalebb
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ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Gotcha. Gotta agree with you there. Those who don't follow prospects until this time of year will now go back and find his pre-injury tape.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
He's 5'10 168. No ones going to make that mistake.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Randle slower than I expected.
werdnoynek
Footballguy
great tape??? what from high school? davis is fast and big. that's all he has going for him. he's lackluster on tape, lacks vision and decisiveness. i'd like to see this great tape you're talking about showing he's more than a straight line guy with muscles.
jurb26
Footballguy
Yeah, Davis was #2 on just about every board a year ago. Right behind Lattimore. I'm glad to see he recovered this well from his injury. Looks like he should be 100% and this performance will vault him significantly in the draft. He had tremendous game tape a couple of years ago.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Huh? High school? How about 2010 when he ran for 1300 yds and 13 TDs in the SEC and was considered by many as the #1 or #2 RB in the country before he got hurt.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
No way. Harper has soft hands. Little wishes he could catch like Harper does.
werdnoynek
Footballguy
nice stats, unimpressive tape. all i see is speed. that's great in college, won't get you far in the nfl if you lack vision and decisiveness, which imo he lacks.
cstu
Footballguy
"looks"
werdnoynek
Footballguy
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Okay then.
EBF
Footballguy
Really solid athletic profile. Ran a 4.41 unofficial and just jumped 10'5" in the broad. Killed the vertical with a ridiculous 43" inches. All of the hype will be about Davis, but this guy has the best physical profile of any RB in this draft. Can't see him slipping out of the first three rounds even despite his kind of ho-hum college career and injury issues.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
How can Hunter NOT be the #1 WR after today? What else more would be have to do? I haven't watched him at all FWIW
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Time Kibitzer
Footballguy
Be better at playing football.
EBF
Footballguy
He is an explosive athlete. He and Goodwin are elite long jumpers, so it's no surprise to see them crush the broad jump. They've got a lot of pop in their legs. In terms of weaknesses, Hunter is really light for his height and I don't think he's got great lateral/make-you-miss kind of quickness. His game is all vertical.Still think he's a pretty talented prospect though.
werdnoynek
Footballguy
spot on.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Didn't he lead his team in all receiving?
EBF
Footballguy
On the other end of the spectrum, Stepfan Taylor has really been exposed today. Explosiveness was always the question mark with him, but I was expecting a 40 time somewhere in the 4.55-4.65 range. 4.72 unofficial is atrocious. That's high school kid stuff. Combine that with his 30" vertical and 9'2" broad jump, and he might be lucky to even get drafted. No one took a bigger hit on my board in the last two days.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Gotta say that Taylor's disappointing combine isn't very surprising, although it's worse than even I would have thought.
werdnoynek
Footballguy
saw a tweet saying ellington is on the trainer's table saying he must have pulled something on that fourty.
EBF
Footballguy
One guy who won't get a lot of attention, but also had a pretty solid day is Georgia WR Tavarres King. He is never going to be a #1 WR in the NFL, but he can potentially be a decent #2. 6' 189. 4.47 40, 36.5" vert, 10'3" broad jump. Looked like a pretty polished product at the Senior Bowl. He will go 3rd-4th round and become a decent complementary player for somebody.
loose circuits
Footballguy
Who is Josh Boyce?
cstu
Footballguy
Completely disappointing across the board. UDFA is a very real possibility.
EBF
Footballguy
He has been on the radar for years because he got significant PT as a true freshman for the TCU team with Dalton/Kerley that played in the Rose Bowl.The book on him is that he was a mediocre athlete with no upside. That's not what you'd think looking at the numbers.
cstu
Footballguy
Very comparable numbers (except bench) to Wheaton who is expected to go much higher. Could be a steal if he lasts to the 4th round.
EBF
Footballguy
A couple other thoughts on the RBs:
LeVeon Bell - Nice 40 time and looked to be in much better shape, but didn't show anything in the other drills.
Kenjon Barner - Quietly had a solid day. I don't think he's a featured back, but he has the tools to be useful.
Montee Ball - As average as some feared. No standout qualities. He didn't bomb as bad as Taylor, but everything about him screams "backup."
Michael Ford - Perfect example of why you maybe shouldn't put too much stock in the numbers. He looks like a demon on paper. Solid height/weight/speed. Very good vert and elite broad jump for a 5'9" player. The numbers say he has vertical explosiveness, but what they don't tell you is that he has ostrich legs and no cutting ability. I'll still be surprised if he ends up becoming a quality pro.
LeVeon Bell - Nice 40 time and looked to be in much better shape, but didn't show anything in the other drills.
Kenjon Barner - Quietly had a solid day. I don't think he's a featured back, but he has the tools to be useful.
Montee Ball - As average as some feared. No standout qualities. He didn't bomb as bad as Taylor, but everything about him screams "backup."
Michael Ford - Perfect example of why you maybe shouldn't put too much stock in the numbers. He looks like a demon on paper. Solid height/weight/speed. Very good vert and elite broad jump for a 5'9" player. The numbers say he has vertical explosiveness, but what they don't tell you is that he has ostrich legs and no cutting ability. I'll still be surprised if he ends up becoming a quality pro.
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