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2013 Off Season Dynasty Trade Thread (for completed trades) (2 Viewers)
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Footballguy
Decker for me
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Footballguy
I would trade that for Green alone so if Richardson does anything that would be a bonus
The Clamface
Footballguy
Traded : 2.2
Received : Beanie Wells
Received : Beanie Wells
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Footballguy
Miller/Hernandez
matttyl
Footballguy
Sounds about right in this below average draft class. I've offered Wells out there for *any* future 1st round pick (2014 or 2015) in my 10 team league, so far no takers.
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
Would gladly sell Wells for 2.2. Always dinged RB being turned down by multiple teams for medical reasons. While the draft is weak it is deep so 2.2 is potentially a very good player.
JPeso
Footballguy
Where is Wallace for you?
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
Wallace's last 22 games with Pittsburgh = 4 catches for 53 yards and .45 TDs / game, which over 16 games is 64 - 848 - 7. And now he goes from Roethlisberger to Tannehill.I get that he might have been mailing it in last year, but his downward trend started mid-2011. His skills don't matchup well with getting a huge number of targets, and his per-targets metrics are going to go down, a lot, with the QB change. He's nowhere near WR15 IMO, particularly if we're talking PPR.
I need to update my personal rankings but he'd probably be outside my top 20 WRs in PPR.
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garlicduck
Footballguy
12 Team PPR with devys
Team A gave up:
Randle, Rueben NYG WR
Team B gave up:
Cook, Jared STL TE
Team A gave up:
Randle, Rueben NYG WR
Team B gave up:
Cook, Jared STL TE
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Footballguy
I am high on Randle so I will take that side
ghostguy123
Footballguy
yeah thats really in favor of the Green side by a ton'One More Rep said:
cstu
Footballguy
Wallace was in the top 20 in PPR last year until Ben got injured. He was #7 in 2011 through 16 games. Now he's going to a team that's paying him $12M per to be their #1 WR. We can quibble about WR15, but he's in the top 20.
I get that he might have been mailing it in last year, but his downward trend started mid-2011. His skills don't matchup well with getting a huge number of targets, and his per-targets metrics are going to go down, a lot, with the QB change. He's nowhere near WR15 IMO, particularly if we're talking PPR.
cstu
Footballguy
Interesting. As a Gerhart owner myself I'd like to know your reasoning.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
I offered picks 2 and 3 for Cobb and was turned down. This is bad
32 team IDP probably changes things significantly though. Depth and all. Still probably prefer Cobb though.
EBF
Footballguy
Not a massive Gerhart fan and didn't even draft him in any leagues when he was a rook, but he might be one of the top 25-30 backs in the NFL. Just looking at it objectively:- Starter size at 6' 231. - Good size/speed ratio with a 4.5 flat time at that weight. Respectable 9'10" broad jump and 36" vertical. - Dominant college player.- 2nd round NFL draft pick.- Top 15 ppg back down the stretch in 2011.- Averaged 4.7 YPC in 2011 after Peterson went down (92 carries for 431 yards). - Free agent after this season. Perfect example of a guy who has been overlooked because of factors beyond his control. Totally forgotten man behind Peterson. On another team maybe he becomes useful. Not expecting much from him, but felt it was a sensible gamble in a 14 team start 2 RB league. Already had rookie picks 1.07, 1.11, and 2.02, so don't mind shipping out the pick in this case.
Nucker101
Footballguy
Totally agree with this and am trying to buy Gerhart on the cheap if I can. Definitely has some talent and could get a shot as a starter or at least rbbc somewhere by the 2014 season.
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Which of the following do you prefer Wallace over in PPR dynasty?Calvin, AJG, Dez, Julio, DT, Harvin, Marshall, Cobb, Cruz, Nicks, Crabtree, Fitzgerald, A.Johnson, VJax, Nelson, White, Blackmon, Welker, Garcon, Torrey, Gordon, Bowe.There are 23 names there.
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
Ehhhhhh. He's pretty limited in the kinds of routes he can run effectively. Any kind of traffic gives him fits -- Hartline is going to lead the team in targets and catches because he can run the inside and timing routes that are the bread and butter of modern NFL offense. Wallace is a deep ball and bubble screen player.And I also think last year's splits with and without Ben are far more telling for the anti-Wallace argument. I'll agree that Mike is a strong fantasy asset with a HOF deep ball specialist getting him the ball. Unfortunately he's now got a 2nd year guy who even in a best case scenario won't reasonably play anywhere near that level for years, if ever.Wallace was in the top 20 in PPR last year until Ben got injured. He was #7 in 2011 through 16 games. Now he's going to a team that's paying him $12M per to be their #1 WR. We can quibble about WR15, but he's in the top 20.
I get that he might have been mailing it in last year, but his downward trend started mid-2011. His skills don't matchup well with getting a huge number of targets, and his per-targets metrics are going to go down, a lot, with the QB change. He's nowhere near WR15 IMO, particularly if we're talking PPR
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Victor Cruz for Larry Fitz straight up.
Overpaid a bit in getting Fitzgerald since Cruz is going ahead of him in startups, but you do what you gotta do sometimes and I'm buying Larry.
Overpaid a bit in getting Fitzgerald since Cruz is going ahead of him in startups, but you do what you gotta do sometimes and I'm buying Larry.
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VJax, Nelson, White, Welker, Garcon, Gordon, Bowe, Crabtree, Andre Johnson (probably), Blackmon (probably). ETA Cobb (probably)
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cstu
Footballguy
The bolded are the ones I'd prefer Wallace over.That's 15 players ahead of Wallace.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Not when Cobb scores as much as all those picks and Gibson combined each week.
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Footballguy
I would take Fitz straight up also
As I said, I probably prefer Cobb, but I've never played in a 32 team league or even a 16 teamer. Cobb outscored Gibson by 4.5 PPR points per game last year.
I'll take the Wilson/Gordon side.
Skeletore Eh
Footballguy
I was waiting for the auto "this thread is for completed trades only" reply'rude classless thugs said:
Shawnky
Footballguy
I personally would only take Calvin, AJG, Dez, Julio, DT, Harvin, Marshall and Cruz over him from that list. Fitz would be a possibility if his QB situation was improved.
Skeletore Eh
Footballguy
I got wells in this deal and it was pretty much an auto accept. Just had to make sure he hadn't signed with anyone that I hadn't heard about, particularly the steelers. I've never been a fan of wells and I would have taken almost anything for him.'thriftyrocker said:
Garcon has yet to play a full season, meanwhile Wallace has never missed a game. Same with Nicks but at least he comes with big upside.And what the heck has Josh Gordon shown to convince anyone he's better than Wallace?Torrey Smith I actually like but isn't he just a poor man's Wallace?Some weird names on that list.
Just traded away probably the two hottest names in dynasty circles. Randall Cobb and CJ Spiller....
I probably made a mistake here. But I thought Spillers stock was as high as ever and it was a good time to cash in.
Traded CJ Spiller
for
Vick Ballard
Bernard Pierce
Alshon Jeffery
I love Spiller and think he is one of the most dynamic players in the NFL. However he just lost two offensive linemen. Who knows will be their QB. And I just don't know if he can hold up as the feature back. I still like him - but I don't think he will be top 5 RB this season. Maybe I am wrong.
Felt like I got 3 nice young players. Ballard will start in place of spiller which is a big step back - but hopefully not that much. I think everyone has seen Pierce looks better than Rice and Jeffery fills a big hole I would have at my #4 WR.
We will see....
In another trade -
Traded
Randall Cobb
Hakeem Nicks
for
Calvin Johnson
Jennings may be back in GB. Tired of the game time decision that is Nicks.
I probably made a mistake here. But I thought Spillers stock was as high as ever and it was a good time to cash in.
Traded CJ Spiller
for
Vick Ballard
Bernard Pierce
Alshon Jeffery
I love Spiller and think he is one of the most dynamic players in the NFL. However he just lost two offensive linemen. Who knows will be their QB. And I just don't know if he can hold up as the feature back. I still like him - but I don't think he will be top 5 RB this season. Maybe I am wrong.
Felt like I got 3 nice young players. Ballard will start in place of spiller which is a big step back - but hopefully not that much. I think everyone has seen Pierce looks better than Rice and Jeffery fills a big hole I would have at my #4 WR.
We will see....
In another trade -
Traded
Randall Cobb
Hakeem Nicks
for
Calvin Johnson
Jennings may be back in GB. Tired of the game time decision that is Nicks.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
The first trade is brutal, in my personal opinion. The second one is in your favor.
Big fan of the second trade, but doesn't do nearly enough to negate the fact that I threw up in my mouth with the first trade. Gave: Cobb, Nicks, SpillerGot: Calvin, Pierce, Ballard, JeffereyThat's a big net loss, IMHO.
Donsmith753
Footballguy
16 team .5 PPR (not involved)
1.04
Daniels
Hillman
For
Hernandez
3.01
1.04
Daniels
Hillman
For
Hernandez
3.01
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Footballguy
Wilson/Gordon
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Footballguy
Team a gets David Wilson/Vernon Davis/Brian Quick/ 2013 rookie pick 1.2
Team b gets Jimmy Graham/Josh Gordon/Felix Jones/ 2013 rookie pick 2.2
Team b gets Jimmy Graham/Josh Gordon/Felix Jones/ 2013 rookie pick 2.2
Concept Coop
Footballguy
Graham > WilsonGordon = 1.02Based on that I'd take the Graham side. Not losing sleep over Davis or Quick.
He got Calvin and scraps for 3 extremely solid starters. The deal giving up Spiller for that garbage is mind boggling.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
That first trade is as bad as it gets.Even if you hate Spiller and think he sucks, 99.99999% of owners would probably slip a few hundred bucks under the table for you to give them that deal, and that would be in a $50 league.
Ace Matherton
Footballguy
Think it worked for us both, my team is just not set up to win now so youth will serve me a bit better.
matttyl
Footballguy
I completely had a brain fart in my initial response. I was thinking "Mendenhall" even though I even typed "Wells". My bad. I'd rather have the 2.2 than Wells. Would rather have Mendy than 2.2. Carry on.
Yeah I made the trade. This is a dynasty league where we keep our entire roster year to year. Maybe this will blow up in my face and Spiller will be the next AP. I love him but I question his durability. Last year when he was the starter with Fred Jackson out - he got hurt and banged up. I wonder if he can hold up over an entire season. The Bills just cut Fitzpatrick and who knows who will be their QB next year. The rookie class of QB and available free agents does not leave much to get excited about. Whoever it is, it will be a painful process. The Bill also now have a huge hole at left guard after losing Andy Levitre and Chad Rinehart to free agency. As an organization - the Bills are among the worst run in the NFL. Up there with the Chiefs and Chargers. On the surface - maybe I did not get enough in return. I believe Ballard will be the workhorse three down back in Indy. Already a playoff team - a draft class that included Luck, TY Hilton, Ballard, Fleener, and Allen - All already a huge part of their turn around. My hopes are that Ballard will have bigger lanes and more opportunities to make up for the lack of talent when compared to Spiller.In Pierce - I got a guy - who visually looks to be superior to Ray Rice. I love Ray Ray - but it was pretty clear (to me at least) that during the stretch and playoff run when every game was must win for the Ravens - that Pierce looked superior to Rice. Alshon Jeffery - another young player who I really like. I believe he will emerge this year as the reliable #2 WR in Chicago and in years to come emerge as a solid #1 type WR in the fantasy world. Maybe it is just my league. In shopping Spiller - I did not get many other offers....
