*** 2013 Official Pittsburgh Steelers Off & ON Season Thread *** (1 Viewer)

[3C's]

Ivory Wade "Wade is an athletic, mobile lineman with the feet to work in space and get to the second level, flashing the aggressive nature to deliver a pop at the point of attack. However, he needs to stay balanced in his sets and not overextend or play out of control. Wade is a veteran blocker with versatile experience and will leave the college ranks with extensive playing time at tackle, guard and center, an extremely appealing line item on his resume to the NFL."

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Steelers LB Sean Spence Unlikely To Ever Play AgainSaturday, April 27th, 2013 at 6:52 pm by Dave Bryan

Pittsburgh Steelers linebackers coach Keith Butler delivered some real bad news on Saturday about linebacker Sean Spence, the teams third round draft pick from last year, when asked if he would be back this year.

"I don’t think he is going to be. It will be miraculous if he does come back. It will be miraculous if he comes back next year. We are going to take a chance on him and see if he can come back. To me, he is worth every bit of that."

Butler was asked if it would be gravy if Spence every does return and his response was not surprising.

"I hope he’s gravy, said Butler. "I really do, because this kid is a great kid. He’s not only a very intelligent football player but he is going to provide some intangibles in our locker room that we desperately need, I think. We’re going to ride with him for another year I think. Hopefully his knee will respond and he can play again."

Spence shredded his left knee last preseason against the Carolina Panthers and it is believed that he did damage to the peroneal nerve, which could cause a condition known as drop foot.

Butler really sounded down about Spence, who he believes is a very solid kid and a good football player.

Best of luck to you Mr Spence.

 

[3C's]

That sucks big time. Was one of my favorites at camp last year. Knew this year was out but still holding out hope for the future.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

From CBS Sports Alex Marvez... "LeVeon Bell led the nation in YARDS AFTER CONTACT and it wasn't even close."

922 yards after contact (53% of his yards) , according to STATS Inc.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

No more spin moves in the backfield at least.

I like the draft. Heck, if our docs thought Lacy was an issue, I trust them. I only thought a trade down could have netted the same guy. Maybe not though. Solid draft and signings.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Luke Ingram Rated number 1 out of 29 LS's

gotta be worth something, right?

He's at least a .6 on the Schneck Scale already

 

[BigSteelThrill]

No more spin moves in the backfield at least.I like the draft. Heck, if our docs thought Lacy was an issue, I trust them. I only thought a trade down could have netted the same guy. Maybe not though. Solid draft and signings.

I think his desire/passion could have been a mitigating factor as well.

They had stated recently (in an admission of bad drafting, that to me seems to have coincided with Tomlins tenure) they had gotten away from getting players who brought the right mindset/approach.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Did anybody catch the promo with Tomlin saying his favorite draft moment was drafting high school buddies wallace and Lewis and by the time they drafted Lewis, Wallace was already at his house? Now they're both gone :(

 

[timschochet]

Saw a lot of Curtis McNeil last year. He's underrated. Small size, but tough. If he can make the team, I think he'll surprise some people.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Roto gave the Steelers a C+

17. Jarvis Jones, outside linebacker, Georgia.

48. Le'Veon Bell, running back, Michigan State.

79. Markus Wheaton, receiver, Oregon State.

111. Shamarko Thomas, strong safety, Syracuse.

115. Landry Jones, quarterback, Oklahoma.

150. Terry Hawthorne, cornerback, Illinois.

186. Justin Brown, receiver, Oklahoma.

206. Vince Williams, inside linebacker, Florida State.

223. Nick Williams, defensive end, Samford.

Overview: There's a lot to like about this draft on paper. Just keep in mind Pittsburgh sent a 2014 third-round pick to Cleveland in exchange for No. 111. Hard-hitting Thomas was a value there, but may only help on special teams for the next year and is a tight-hipped safety prospect, which is why he was available in round four. Jones and Bell are day-one starters, while Wheaton should have every opportunity to win a job in three-receiver sets as the "X" when Emmanuel Sanders kicks inside to the slot. Vince Williams is a physical inside thumper. Nick is built ideally to play five-technique end in Pittsburgh's 3-4 defense and has developmental athleticism. Hawthorne was once a projected future first-rounder. Jones has a great arm and quick release, though he'll have to improve his in-pocket courage to pan out. I think the Steelers added good football players and can expect immediate impact from two to three acquisitions, but giving up next year's third-rounder is still bothersome when the team cannot be sure Thomas will be a productive NFL player.

 

[JoeSteeler]

Embernate (6-foot-3 3/4, 305) was nicknamed "Embernasty" in college for his physical play, often to the point of inducing penalties. He started 46 games for the Aztecs, all at guard. Embernate showed some athleticism at his Pro Day with a 5.15 forty and 26 1/2-inch vertical. He did 21 reps on the bench. Once Embernate develops, he could grow into a Richie Incognito-type player. The Steelers don't have much depth along the offensive line.

Rotoworld

 

[JoeSteeler]

Pittsburgh Steelers (B)

Jarvis Jones (OLB) Georgia

LeVeon Bell (RB) Michigan State

Markus Wheaton (WR) Oregon State

Shamarko Thomas (S) Syracuse

Landry Jones (QB) Oklahoma

Terry Hawthorne (CB) Illinois

Justin Brown (WR) Oklahoma

Vince Williams (MLB) FSU

Nick Williams (DT) Samford

The Steelers caught a huge break as outside linebacker Jarvis Jones fell right into their lap. What a great player in the perfect system for Jones. I thought LeVeon Bell was the second best back in this draft. Markus Wheaton and Shamarko Thomas should be good players for Pittsburgh. Big Ben cant play forever and Landry Jones looks like a guy that can be developed over time.

Scout.com

 

[geneyus]

"Those in the know" seem to be pretty high on the Steelers draft. For what's it's worth...

SI.com B+

CBSSports B

Mel Kiper B

WatlerFootball.com A-

Fox Sports Marvez A-

Fox Sports Schrager A

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Roto gave the Steelers a C+

Funny thing is, with almost everyone of these grades... had we taken Lacy, we would have gotten A's and A+'s.

 

[3C's]

Roto gave the Steelers a C+

17. Jarvis Jones, outside linebacker, Georgia.

48. Le'Veon Bell, running back, Michigan State.

79. Markus Wheaton, receiver, Oregon State.

111. Shamarko Thomas, strong safety, Syracuse.

115. Landry Jones, quarterback, Oklahoma.

150. Terry Hawthorne, cornerback, Illinois.

186. Justin Brown, receiver, Oklahoma.

206. Vince Williams, inside linebacker, Florida State.

223. Nick Williams, defensive end, Samford.

Overview: There's a lot to like about this draft on paper. Just keep in mind Pittsburgh sent a 2014 third-round pick to Cleveland in exchange for No. 111. Hard-hitting Thomas was a value there, but may only help on special teams for the next year and is a tight-hipped safety prospect, which is why he was available in round four. Jones and Bell are day-one starters, while Wheaton should have every opportunity to win a job in three-receiver sets as the "X" when Emmanuel Sanders kicks inside to the slot. Vince Williams is a physical inside thumper. Nick is built ideally to play five-technique end in Pittsburgh's 3-4 defense and has developmental athleticism. Hawthorne was once a projected future first-rounder. Jones has a great arm and quick release, though he'll have to improve his in-pocket courage to pan out. I think the Steelers added good football players and can expect immediate impact from two to three acquisitions, but giving up next year's third-rounder is still bothersome when the team cannot be sure Thomas will be a productive NFL player.

So lets see if I've got this right. They got two "day one starters" in the first 2 rounds, a 3rd rounder who will play quite a bit, a "value" in the 4th but traded away a 3rd next year (that's how it works, 4th this year for a 3rd next is the going rate), a qb that Polian said might go in the first, some had going in the 2nd http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000101469/article/landry-jones-oklahoma-qb-the-enigma-of-the-2013-nfl-draft]link but worst case for most was 4th, a 5th rounder that previously was projected to the first, and a couple of guys who could develop into players. That a C+?

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Roto gave the Steelers a C+

17. Jarvis Jones, outside linebacker, Georgia.

48. Le'Veon Bell, running back, Michigan State.

79. Markus Wheaton, receiver, Oregon State.

111. Shamarko Thomas, strong safety, Syracuse.

115. Landry Jones, quarterback, Oklahoma.

150. Terry Hawthorne, cornerback, Illinois.

186. Justin Brown, receiver, Oklahoma.

206. Vince Williams, inside linebacker, Florida State.

223. Nick Williams, defensive end, Samford.

Overview: There's a lot to like about this draft on paper. Just keep in mind Pittsburgh sent a 2014 third-round pick to Cleveland in exchange for No. 111. Hard-hitting Thomas was a value there, but may only help on special teams for the next year and is a tight-hipped safety prospect, which is why he was available in round four. Jones and Bell are day-one starters, while Wheaton should have every opportunity to win a job in three-receiver sets as the "X" when Emmanuel Sanders kicks inside to the slot. Vince Williams is a physical inside thumper. Nick is built ideally to play five-technique end in Pittsburgh's 3-4 defense and has developmental athleticism. Hawthorne was once a projected future first-rounder. Jones has a great arm and quick release, though he'll have to improve his in-pocket courage to pan out. I think the Steelers added good football players and can expect immediate impact from two to three acquisitions, but giving up next year's third-rounder is still bothersome when the team cannot be sure Thomas will be a productive NFL player.

So lets see if I've got this right. They got two "day one starters" in the first 2 rounds, a 3rd rounder who will play quite a bit, a "value" in the 4th but traded away a 3rd next year (that's how it works, 4th this year for a 3rd next is the going rate), a qb that Polian said might go in the first, some had going in the 2nd link but worst case for most was 4th, a 5th rounder that previously was projected to the first, and a couple of guys who could develop into players. That a C+?

I was surprised by the grade, given the writeup, as well.

 

[3C's]

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[Leeroy Jenkins]

The more I read about those first three picks, the better I feel about this team. I think Worlds ((I don't care how he spells it) still will start. Jones will get more snaps though than our previous defensive early picks and may take over by the end of the season. Bell should start from day one. It seems like the kid has a great attitude and work ethic. I love how he tailored his pro-day to show off his other skills. He's a 3 down back, buy will get those short punch ins that have lacked of late. LSH should be a nice COP as well for him. Wheaton seems to be a nice fit for Haley's offense. As a 4 year starter who also lined up at RB, it seems he should be able to pick things up quickly. With Heath out, I'm assuming the Steelers will be 3 and 4 wide more often. Bell in the backfield though should keep teams honest. I like it.

So, what does Wheaton and Brown mean for Plex and Cotch? What do you think the WR depth chart is now?

 

[Godsbrother]

Steelers LB Sean Spence Unlikely To Ever Play AgainSaturday, April 27th, 2013 at 6:52 pm by Dave Bryan

Pittsburgh Steelers linebackers coach Keith Butler delivered some real bad news on Saturday about linebacker Sean Spence, the teams third round draft pick from last year, when asked if he would be back this year.

"I don’t think he is going to be. It will be miraculous if he does come back. It will be miraculous if he comes back next year. We are going to take a chance on him and see if he can come back. To me, he is worth every bit of that."

Butler was asked if it would be gravy if Spence every does return and his response was not surprising.

"I hope he’s gravy, said Butler. "I really do, because this kid is a great kid. He’s not only a very intelligent football player but he is going to provide some intangibles in our locker room that we desperately need, I think. We’re going to ride with him for another year I think. Hopefully his knee will respond and he can play again."

Spence shredded his left knee last preseason against the Carolina Panthers and it is believed that he did damage to the peroneal nerve, which could cause a condition known as drop foot.

Butler really sounded down about Spence, who he believes is a very solid kid and a good football player.

Best of luck to you Mr Spence.

This is a damn shame. I am holding out hope that he makes a miraculous recovery and can come into camp in 2014 and compete for a job.

 

[Godsbrother]

The more I read about those first three picks, the better I feel about this team. I think Worlds ((I don't care how he spells it) still will start. Jones will get more snaps though than our previous defensive early picks and may take over by the end of the season. Bell should start from day one. It seems like the kid has a great attitude and work ethic. I love how he tailored his pro-day to show off his other skills. He's a 3 down back, buy will get those short punch ins that have lacked of late. LSH should be a nice COP as well for him. Wheaton seems to be a nice fit for Haley's offense. As a 4 year starter who also lined up at RB, it seems he should be able to pick things up quickly. With Heath out, I'm assuming the Steelers will be 3 and 4 wide more often. Bell in the backfield though should keep teams honest. I like it.

So, what does Wheaton and Brown mean for Plex and Cotch? What do you think the WR depth chart is now?

Not sure about the depth chart but if Wheaton and Brown impress you might see either Burress or Cotchery cut during preseason if the Steelers want to get back a $1 million in cap space.

 

[geneyus]

Would rather have the $$ than Plaxico. Still wouldn't mind seeing Bradshaw in a Steelers uniform.

 

[Godsbrother]

Would rather have the $$ than Plaxico. Still wouldn't mind seeing Bradshaw in a Steelers uniform.

Looks like that ship has sailed...

 

[treat88]

The more I read about those first three picks, the better I feel about this team. I think Worlds ((I don't care how he spells it) still will start. Jones will get more snaps though than our previous defensive early picks and may take over by the end of the season. Bell should start from day one. It seems like the kid has a great attitude and work ethic. I love how he tailored his pro-day to show off his other skills. He's a 3 down back, buy will get those short punch ins that have lacked of late. LSH should be a nice COP as well for him. Wheaton seems to be a nice fit for Haley's offense. As a 4 year starter who also lined up at RB, it seems he should be able to pick things up quickly. With Heath out, I'm assuming the Steelers will be 3 and 4 wide more often. Bell in the backfield though should keep teams honest. I like it.

So, what does Wheaton and Brown mean for Plex and Cotch? What do you think the WR depth chart is now?

I don't think Cotch/Plax are any obstacle to Wheaton's PT at all. That's not to say he immediately wins a starting job in 3 WR sets, but rather to say his PT will be dictated by how quickly he learns the playbook. As soon as he's ready he's #3 on the depth chart in my mind.

I look at Sanders, Brown, and Wheaton and see three very, very similar skillsets that are essentially interchangeable across the X,Y,Z receiver positions. All of them are great fits for Haley's quick hitting attack. In theory, they should be able to move each of them around and create a mismatch somewhere. Against zone coverages and teams that are deficient at the slot CB position they should be a mismatch nightmare.

I really hope they can get something done with Sander's contract and keep him around for a while. I'm not optimistic, but if they can keep this trio together for the next 3-4 years, Ben's SB window should stay open through his prime years.

I can see 11 personnel becoming the base set early this season. In theory, Bell's receiving skills should make the playaction game really tough to stop and he should be able to motion out of the backfield to further dictate match-ups.

If Miller is healthy this could be a real tough offense to get off the field.

 

[treat88]

Would rather have the $$ than Plaxico. Still wouldn't mind seeing Bradshaw in a Steelers uniform.

Looks like that ship has sailed...

We'll see. I wouldn't be surprised to see Dwyer end up a camp cut if he shows up fat again.

There's a few names that will be interesting to watch after June 1 rolls around. It's probably a pipe dream, but if Dansby is still on the market at that point I think he'd be a very nice add. Bradshaw too.

June 1 will be a pretty important date this year. I think they will be adding a piece or two once their cap room frees up a little.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

They claim they still have interst in AB, FWIW. Dunno if I buy it, and I think he clearly must still be broken or he'd be signed by now.

Don't see anything happening with any FA prior to June now. Given how the few open starting spots for RBs seem to have evaporated post-draft, I'm assuming Bradshaw and his agent will be waiting as long as they can for an injury someplace.

 

[Gawain]

Steelers LB Sean Spence Unlikely To Ever Play AgainSaturday, April 27th, 2013 at 6:52 pm by Dave Bryan

Pittsburgh Steelers linebackers coach Keith Butler delivered some real bad news on Saturday about linebacker Sean Spence, the teams third round draft pick from last year, when asked if he would be back this year.

"I don’t think he is going to be. It will be miraculous if he does come back. It will be miraculous if he comes back next year. We are going to take a chance on him and see if he can come back. To me, he is worth every bit of that."

Butler was asked if it would be gravy if Spence every does return and his response was not surprising.

"I hope he’s gravy, said Butler. "I really do, because this kid is a great kid. He’s not only a very intelligent football player but he is going to provide some intangibles in our locker room that we desperately need, I think. We’re going to ride with him for another year I think. Hopefully his knee will respond and he can play again."

Spence shredded his left knee last preseason against the Carolina Panthers and it is believed that he did damage to the peroneal nerve, which could cause a condition known as drop foot.

Butler really sounded down about Spence, who he believes is a very solid kid and a good football player.

Best of luck to you Mr Spence.

This is a damn shame. I am holding out hope that he makes a miraculous recovery and can come into camp in 2014 and compete for a job.

I ended up with drop foot (probably the dumbest sounding injury ever) after a car accident that damaged my sciatic and peroneal nerves. I did fairly intense rehab and a lot of electo-stim (though I'm sure it wasn't as good as an NFL player gets, I was at a major university at the time, so could avail myself of the physical trainers and the equipment in the athletic department) and never regained full use. Nerves basically have to regenerate over time and while therapy can rebuild muscles, it can't rebuild nerves. If he's lost nerve function, he can't really build up strength to compensate.

 

[Gawain]

They claim they still have interst in AB, FWIW. Dunno if I buy it, and I think he clearly must still be broken or he'd be signed by now.

Don't see anything happening with any FA prior to June now. Given how the few open starting spots for RBs seem to have evaporated post-draft, I'm assuming Bradshaw and his agent will be waiting as long as they can for an injury someplace.

A backfield of Bradshaw/Bell/Redman with LSH playing mainly special teams sounds pretty good.

 

[Cookiemonster]

Steelers LB Sean Spence Unlikely To Ever Play AgainSaturday, April 27th, 2013 at 6:52 pm by Dave Bryan

Pittsburgh Steelers linebackers coach Keith Butler delivered some real bad news on Saturday about linebacker Sean Spence, the teams third round draft pick from last year, when asked if he would be back this year.

"I don’t think he is going to be. It will be miraculous if he does come back. It will be miraculous if he comes back next year. We are going to take a chance on him and see if he can come back. To me, he is worth every bit of that."

Butler was asked if it would be gravy if Spence every does return and his response was not surprising.

"I hope he’s gravy, said Butler. "I really do, because this kid is a great kid. He’s not only a very intelligent football player but he is going to provide some intangibles in our locker room that we desperately need, I think. We’re going to ride with him for another year I think. Hopefully his knee will respond and he can play again."

Spence shredded his left knee last preseason against the Carolina Panthers and it is believed that he did damage to the peroneal nerve, which could cause a condition known as drop foot.

Butler really sounded down about Spence, who he believes is a very solid kid and a good football player.

Best of luck to you Mr Spence.

This is a damn shame. I am holding out hope that he makes a miraculous recovery and can come into camp in 2014 and compete for a job.

I ended up with drop foot (probably the dumbest sounding injury ever) after a car accident that damaged my sciatic and peroneal nerves. I did fairly intense rehab and a lot of electo-stim (though I'm sure it wasn't as good as an NFL player gets, I was at a major university at the time, so could avail myself of the physical trainers and the equipment in the athletic department) and never regained full use. Nerves basically have to regenerate over time and while therapy can rebuild muscles, it can't rebuild nerves. If he's lost nerve function, he can't really build up strength to compensate.

Neuro pathways can re-route, but slowly. He should expect to be 85-90% of his full recovery potential by 12 months, and 100% by 18 months. What he doesn't have by 18 months is never coming back. Most improvement is in the 1st 6 months, so they probably already have a pretty good idea that his career is over, but holding out hope for the slim chance of a new connection or two.

 

[3C's]

Interesting

Report: Free Agent T Winston Justice Visiting Steelers Monday

 

[The Hank]

Nik Embernate, OG SDSU

HGT: 6-4 WGT: 300

Embernate has started 45 games dating back to the 4th game of his true-freshman year. Embernate is a big reason why in 2010 and 2011, San Diego St. posted consecutive seasons of 2,000yds rushing, lead by running back, Ronnie Hillman( Denver Broncos). Embernate has been recognized as a pre-season 1st team All-Mountain West offensive lineman. Embernate had a solid senior Season, that saw him gain 1st team All-Mountain West honors

PROS:

Embernate has good frame, could easily add fifteen pounds of muscle and it won’t slow him down. Shows good athleticism and good feet which stands out on every film I’ve watched of him. Has experience playing right tackle because of injury. Embernate is a mauler in the run-game. In zone schemes he shows the ability to get push at the point of attack and finish blocks and also shows the ability to come off on 2nd level defenders when he is zone combo blocking. Embernate is an outstanding puller that finishes defenders once engaged. Shows a nasty streak which you like to see. Very good in space, shows he can dip his hips and explode on a sitting defender in space or he can change directions and cut when a defender is moving in space. Delivers a solid punch in pass-protection and plays with overall violent hands! Shows he take away the inside in pass-protection and looks comfortable in his pass-demeanor. Does a good job working with the offensive tackle in passing off line games. And does a good job at pointing out potential blitz.

CONS:

Would like to see Embarnate have better pad level, plays way to high and tries to rely on his strength to finish defenders, instead of leverage. At times he narrows his base on contact which makes him fall off of blocks. Needs to work on hand placement, at times his hands slip outside the frame. Needs to play with more knee bend in his pass-demeanor. At times can be more patient in pass protection. Although I like his nasty mean streak, Embernate has to be careful on blocking defenseless defenders behind the play as it will lead to personal fouls.

NOTES:

The upside I see from Nik Embernate is off the chart. He has some tools that any coach would like to polish with Next-level coaching. Embernate’s skill set and nasty mindset reminds me of Richie Incognito (Miami Dolphins). Embernate may be a sleeper in the 2013 NFL Draft to some, but he has been on my radar for a while. As I project down the road, Nik Embernate will be perfect in any scheme, Zone or Power. Embernate may even be a Center in the NFL. Embernate was not invited to the combine, but I think with a solid pro-day, Embernate could move in to a mid-round pick.

Little highlight reel. Certainly can pull.

That highlight reel was fun to watch, reminds me of the days when we pulled Kemoeatu for our power run game.

Certainly plays like an old school Steeler

 

[JoeSteeler]

Some Steelers draft picks could make a quick impact
April 29, 2013 12:18 am

By Ed Bouchette / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
The Steelers' 2013 draft class will soon discover something that few others have had in their rookie years with them: Opportunity.

Jobs are plentiful after an 8-8 season and because of many veteran defections either forced or voluntary since it ended.

For the first time in a long time, their top two or even three draft choices could become rookie starters. The previous rookie to do that was center Maurkice Pouncey in 2010, although David DeCastro was installed to take over at right guard in 2012 until his preseason injury delayed that move.

It's unusual for the Steelers to have so many openings, a reflection of their success for most of this century. For example, linebacker Lawrence Timmons, their best player on defense in 2012, did not start until his third season after the Steelers drafted him in the first round in 2007. Defensive end Cameron Heyward, their top pick in 2011, still hasn't won a starting job. Jason Worilds, their No. 2 pick in 2010, sat behind two Pro Bowlers his first three seasons.

It looked as though Worilds finally would get his chance to start when the Steelers released James Harrison, opening a position at right outside linebacker. Then along came their first-round draft choice, a ready-made outside linebacker in Georgia's Jarvis Jones.

"I think it's a daunting task for rookies to start in any system and play and perform well," Steelers coach Mike Tomlin said while talking about the chances of Jones winning that job. "Obviously it is difficult when you have established veteran players like we have with a lot of continuity. We are not going to close the door on him or anyone else on earning an opportunity, and that is what this is about. This is about people taking advantage of opportunities so he'll be given that."

Worilds enters the final year of his contract, too, so all ties will go to Jones in their competition. Yet like a good linebackers coach, Keith Butler would not concede that.

"We have to be better at linebacker," Butler said. "Jason Worilds should be a lot better than he was last year. Everybody talks about Jarvis coming in and stuff like that and is Jarvis going to start his first year? We've never started a [rookie] linebacker since I've been here."

The Steelers, though, usually drafted undersized defensive ends to turn into outside linebackers and they never draft one in the first round, at least not since the failed Huey Richardson experiment in 1991.

Outside linebacker was Jones' position at Georgia.

"His first year, Jarvis Jones has a wealth of talent and I'm very fortunate to have him," Butler said. "He put up 28 sacks in the last two years in the toughest -- in my opinion, the best conference in the land. He's done it. He's been very productive.

"He's going to come in and compete, but he's not going to be given the position. Some of you think that way. I certainly don't think that way. My thing is Jason Worilds is here. He's the next guy up since James has left and I expect Jason to be better than he ever has been."

The Steelers may expect that of their halfbacks, too, but if second-round pick Le'Veon Bell of Michigan State does not take command and become a quick starter for them, then the Steelers may rue their choice there.

"Running back is a position, probably more so than most, that you have a chance to come in and make an impact," offensive coordinator Todd Haley said about Bell. "Obviously, there's a lot of work ahead of him. He's a young guy, but he's coming from a pro-style offense. A lot of the runs will be very similar to the runs that he was running. So I expect him to get into the mix and be a factor."

So, too, could wide receiver Markus Wheaton, their third-round pick. With Mike Wallace gone, there's a starting job available opposite Antonio Brown. Emmanuel Sanders was assumed to be the receiver to take it, but Wheaton at least has to be considered a candidate.

He was disappointed he did not run faster than a 4.45 at the combine, and said he runs in the 4.3 range. He is a versatile receiver who can play outside or in the slot.

"He plays fast," Haley said. "He's a fast player and quick. He will be an exciting guy to have around ... it's hard for anyone to run faster than Mike, but this guy does play fast."

The rest of their nine-man draft class won't have the kind of opportunities to start as the top three. They love 5-9 safety Shamarko Thomas, but unless there are injuries to Troy Polamalu or Ryan Clark, he will back them up until he can make his move in 2014.

Vince Williams, their compensatory pick in the sixth round, may have the clearest opportunity among the rest of them. There is little depth behind starters Larry Foote and Lawrence Timmons inside after Stevenson Sylvester. It will be "miraculous," according to Butler, if injured Sean Spence can play football again, although Butler said the team will carry him through 2013 on a reserve list to see if he can recover by 2014. If Williams can play, he can back up this year and make a play to start in 2014.

"He can get to the ball and he can hit you when he gets to the ball," said Butler, but noted that Florida State replaced Williams with a defensive back on passing downs. "We'll see how in training camp if he has the ability to cover running backs and stuff like that."

Because they are a team in transition, there are more jobs available to Steelers rookies. The rest is up to them.

For more on the Steelers, read the blog, Ed Bouchette on the Steelers at www.post-gazette.com/plus. Ed Bouchette: ebouchette@post-gazette.com and Twitter @EdBouchette.

First Published April 29, 2013 12:00 am

 

[Kenny Powers]

I think Bradshaw will still be an option come June. Bell's biggest knock is either his power (relative to his size at least) or pass blocking. Bradshaw is one of the best pass blocking RB's in the NFL. Bell will eventually be a 3 down RB but I could see that holding him back as a rookie whether Bradshaw is on the roster or not.

I liked what Jarvis Jones had to say at his press conference. He wouldnt compare himself to a current NFL player, said he has his own style. Really like what Lake had to say about Shamarko. The fact that he's a S and Cuse had him shadow Robert Woods as a CB for the entire game speaks for itself. He can play either FS or SS (looks like more of a SS to me though). Vince Williams seems like a steal of a pick for where we got him. Id be surprised if he didnt make the team to be honest. For a 7th rounder, Nick Williams sounds like he has a lot of potential as well.

Really, my only complaint is the Landry Jones pick. Dysert goes in the 7th, Bray is a UDFA, we use a 4th rounder on Landry. Its not really a need at this point in time, they get no value, but the worst part about it is the guys we couldve still used that pick on at that point - Khaseem Greene, Phillip Thomas, Gerald Hodges, Jesse Williams, and a few others - that are all more pressing needs. For as good as their overall draft was, this pick was an abortion.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Bell's biggest knock is either his power (relative to his size at least) or pass blocking.

I dont think thats true about the pass blocking.

People who have watched the tapes say he does a good job of it, and that's from a pro style offense.

I know some draft nicks (who I suspect haven't done much tape viewing) have stated otherwise.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Bell's biggest knock is either his power (relative to his size at least) or pass blocking.

I dont think thats true about the pass blocking.

People who have watched the tapes say he does a good job of it, and that's from a pro style offense.

I know some draft nicks (who I suspect haven't done much tape viewing) have stated otherwise.

Works for me! I was driving back into town so I had the Fan on for about an hour and a half and it seemed like that came up a lot and was basically the main reason to expect his playing time to possibly be limited by the time the season rolls around.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Dolphins already issuing apologies for Mike Wallace.

Mike Wallace also issued an apology.

He was questioning the whole Jason Collins (NBA) being honest/open.

 

[H8fulHuck]

According to Bell, Tomlin talked to him for approximately 20 minutes before the Steelers picked. Was this a sneaky play by Tomlin to tie up the phone line so other teams right ahead of Pgh couldn't get through to him? May dissuade them from taking Bell if they were on the fence between two players.

http://www.steelers.com/video-and-audio/videos/1on1_with_Bell/4594ca1f-854a-4d61-8dd6-466c0f53984f

 

[Godsbrother]

Steelers make big splash in FA:

Steelers sign punter Brian MoormanBy Neal Coolong on Apr 30 2013, 6:58pLooking to bring in a punter to push for the starting position, it doesn't appear it will take much for the veteran Moorman to win the starting job.Steelers punter Drew Butler didn't exactly have a banner year in 2012. He beat out Jason Kapinos during camp while Kapinos was injured much of the time.As it is, it appears the Steelers could have their fourth different punter in four seasons.Moorman, who was released in Buffalo in 2012, and, incidentally, beat out former Steelers P Dan Sepulveda for a spot with the Cowboys last year, was signed by the Steelers Tuesday. Sepulveda was the punter before Kapinos and Butler in Pittsburgh.To make room, the Steelers released wide receiver Burt Reed.It's not exactly breaking news, but Moorman's athleticism, at one point, ranked up with the higher levels in the NFL. His fake punts were all the rage.It culminated in this savage hit from the late Sean Taylor in the 2009 Pro Bowl.Assuming the Steelers won't use him on many fake punts (the last one was a Sepulveda pass to back-up free safety Ryan Mundy in 2010), but he's certainly good enough to beat Butler out for the job.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Butler was better than Moorman last year. Why bother? Or at least bring in someone that might actually push him. Kluwe should be cut soon, why not wait?

 

[Stillers Jr.]

Need to ask this question to you folks that are much more college football savvy. I don't follow or watch CF so these names tht are drafted mean little to me other than what I read afterwards.

So while I can't comment on the perceived quality of a specific draftee, I will comment on the positions drafted.

That said, Le'Veon Bell could be the next Barry Sanders for all I know. He's probably not, most likely he's an 'ok' RB that is capable. I think that's a reasonable assessment....at least for now

I have a problem drafting an easily fillable position (RB) in the 2nd round when you have glaring needs on the defensive side of the ball that aren't so easy. ILB specifically.

The difference between what Le'Veon Bell is going to bring to the table and viable Free Agent RB is probably not going to be that great.Plus the avg "lifespan" of an NFL RB is 3-4 yrs.

Factor that in with the state of our Oline/running game in general...i believe we wasted a 2nd rounder.

Does anyone argue that taking Arthur Brown instead with our #2 made much more sense? Again, I don't know Art Brown from a hole in the wall, just what I read. But if he turns out to be a stud and we passed on him to take a RB...I will be pissed.

Thoughts??

 

[BigSteelThrill]

I have a problem drafting an easily fillable position (RB) in the 2nd round

Plus the avg "lifespan" of an NFL RB is 3-4 yrs.

I didnt want to use the first rounder, based upon the same type of thought.

I'm okay with the 2nd, especially if Bell was their best graded RB and they like what he can bring to the team.

And everyone of us was more then willing to take Lacy.

Im very okay with it... when we consider just how horrible all of our RBs were last year, and we were 6-3 and had won four-in-row when Ben went down.

Our team was playoff bound with a void at RB, how much could a solid 3 down back add to this team?

And how much could a decent back up QB do for us in 2 years, should we hit that same hiccup?

But what you brought up (LB in round 2) was certainly discussed and considered. Butler, our LB coach said as much after the draft.

 

[Godsbrother]

I have a problem drafting an easily fillable position (RB) in the 2nd round

Plus the avg "lifespan" of an NFL RB is 3-4 yrs.

I didnt want to use the first rounder, based upon the same type of thought.

I'm okay with the 2nd, especially if Bell was their best graded RB and they like what he can bring to the team.

And everyone us was more then willing to take Lacy.

Im very okay with it... when we consider just how horrible all of our RBs were last year, and we were 6-3 and had won four-in-row when Ben went down.

Our team was playoff bound with a void at RB, how much could a solid 3 down back add to this team?

And how much could a decent back up QB do for us in 2 years, should we hit that same hiccup?

But what you brought up (LB in round 2) was certainly discussed and considered. Butler, our LB coach said as much after the draft.

It was definitely a tough call but the Steelers desperately needed an upgrade at RB and they took the top rated RB on their list. I don't have a problem with it.

 

[JoeSteeler]

Need to ask this question to you folks that are much more college football savvy. I don't follow or watch CF so these names tht are drafted mean little to me other than what I read afterwards.

So while I can't comment on the perceived quality of a specific draftee, I will comment on the positions drafted.

That said, Le'Veon Bell could be the next Barry Sanders for all I know. He's probably not, most likely he's an 'ok' RB that is capable. I think that's a reasonable assessment....at least for now

I have a problem drafting an easily fillable position (RB) in the 2nd round when you have glaring needs on the defensive side of the ball that aren't so easy. ILB specifically.

The difference between what Le'Veon Bell is going to bring to the table and viable Free Agent RB is probably not going to be that great.Plus the avg "lifespan" of an NFL RB is 3-4 yrs.

Factor that in with the state of our Oline/running game in general...i believe we wasted a 2nd rounder.

Does anyone argue that taking Arthur Brown instead with our #2 made much more sense? Again, I don't know Art Brown from a hole in the wall, just what I read. But if he turns out to be a stud and we passed on him to take a RB...I will be pissed.

Thoughts??

i was hoping them would take brown in that spot and then add a RB later.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

And everyone of us was more then willing to take Lacy.

I wasn't. Didn't want him then, don't wish we had him now.

Didn't want Bell either, though.

 

[The Hank]

Need to ask this question to you folks that are much more college football savvy. I don't follow or watch CF so these names tht are drafted mean little to me other than what I read afterwards.

So while I can't comment on the perceived quality of a specific draftee, I will comment on the positions drafted.

That said, Le'Veon Bell could be the next Barry Sanders for all I know. He's probably not, most likely he's an 'ok' RB that is capable. I think that's a reasonable assessment....at least for now

I have a problem drafting an easily fillable position (RB) in the 2nd round when you have glaring needs on the defensive side of the ball that aren't so easy. ILB specifically.

The difference between what Le'Veon Bell is going to bring to the table and viable Free Agent RB is probably not going to be that great.Plus the avg "lifespan" of an NFL RB is 3-4 yrs.

Factor that in with the state of our Oline/running game in general...i believe we wasted a 2nd rounder.

Does anyone argue that taking Arthur Brown instead with our #2 made much more sense? Again, I don't know Art Brown from a hole in the wall, just what I read. But if he turns out to be a stud and we passed on him to take a RB...I will be pissed.

Thoughts??

i was hoping them would take brown in that spot and then add a RB later.

What made it worse is that Arthur Brown went a few picks later to the Ravens.

 

[JoeSteeler]

Emmanuel Sanders hopes to sign a long-term contract with the Steelers.
"I love the Pittsburgh Steelers," he said. "I want to be a Pittsburgh Steeler. I'm happy that I'm still a Pittsburgh Steeler. Hopefully we can work out a long-term deal, and I can be a Steeler for my entire career."

 

[3C's]

Need to ask this question to you folks that are much more college football savvy. I don't follow or watch CF so these names tht are drafted mean little to me other than what I read afterwards.

So while I can't comment on the perceived quality of a specific draftee, I will comment on the positions drafted.

That said, Le'Veon Bell could be the next Barry Sanders for all I know. He's probably not, most likely he's an 'ok' RB that is capable. I think that's a reasonable assessment....at least for now

I have a problem drafting an easily fillable position (RB) in the 2nd round when you have glaring needs on the defensive side of the ball that aren't so easy. ILB specifically.

The difference between what Le'Veon Bell is going to bring to the table and viable Free Agent RB is probably not going to be that great.Plus the avg "lifespan" of an NFL RB is 3-4 yrs.

Factor that in with the state of our Oline/running game in general...i believe we wasted a 2nd rounder.

Does anyone argue that taking Arthur Brown instead with our #2 made much more sense? Again, I don't know Art Brown from a hole in the wall, just what I read. But if he turns out to be a stud and we passed on him to take a RB...I will be pissed.

Thoughts??

The needs, specifically, according to people who seemed to have a pulse on the FO were: edge rusher (olb), rb, wr, safety. Which is what they drafted.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

This was posted on the Steelers' scout board by "Bman33". Some pretty solid info on J Jones and the spinal stenosis.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=68&f=1897&t=11496166&p=1&jmid=140377100&jmv=6&stm=0&sto=MS_140377100

A medical take on Jones' spineThis is my free medical opinion, as a practicing family physician for 8 years with some sports medicine and orthopedics expertise, regarding Jarvis Jones' spine. The advice is free and not meant to guide anyone personally, so you get what you pay for. The Steelers have some of the world's top neurosurgeons at their fingertips, so I would suspect they used them for their much more valued opinion. If they are comfortable with the risks... we all should be as well.

Anyway, here is my breakdown of it for you to help shed some light for my fellow fans:

Two types of spinal stenosis (which means narrowing) basically: degenerative (wear and tear) and congenital (born that way).

From what I have read, he has congenital stenosis at levels C4 and C5 in his neck. It was described as "mild" stenosis on his MRI at USC in 2009 after he had a stinger, or possibly a brief spinal concussion, related to a hit against Oregon. His stenosis probably had nothing to do with his symptoms from that hit, but because he had symptoms on both shoulders there was concern it was from the spinal cord... thus the MRI.

Cervical stenosis means that the bony walls around his spinal cord are are built a little narrower than "normal people". There are also many degrees of narrow, so it is hard to know how narrow without looking at his MRI, but "mild" usually means almost normal in doctor speak.

Every football player that steps on the field is at risk of injury to his spine. It can be one severe event, or constant repetitive injury over time. The constant and repetitive are why many develop degenerative stenosis in their spine... as do many other people as they age. As you get wear and tear in the disc that serves as a cushion between the vertebrae, bone spurs begin to develop from the lessened cushion between the bones. More bone spurs.... less space. Less space creates stenosis. Stenosis can occur around the spinal cord (which contains many nerves from both sides of body), or around areas where single nerves exit the spine (only cause pain in one arm or leg).

So, you can see that the health of the discs in the spine also can guide how much risk Jarvis is at. If he has healthy looking discs and lots of cushion with only "mild" narrowing, that bodes well for his prognosis. If he had narrowing and already had worn out discs, it would be a set up for an early exit from the NFL. My guess is that his discs look healthy.

What kind of symptoms might he have?

Nerves travel from the body to the brain through the spinal cord. The higher in the spinal cord, the more nerves that are in it. At the C4 level, he could have tingling or numbness in hands, arms, legs or feet as more narrowing from bone spurs occur and begin to pinch the cord. Muscles can begin to spasm and you can also develop weakness over time. Your bowel or bladder can malfunction if severe. Surgeries can fix and stabilize the spine to prevent severe symptoms.

Is playing football in his best interests long-term? Heck no. I would argue that most football players know that their long-term health is at risk playing football, and they accept that as part of the game. He could be setting himself up for neck surgery and chronic pain as he ages.

Summary:

We cannot say when, or if, Jarvis will have problems related to his stenosis. The average first round pick spends 9 years in the NFL, and based on what I have read, I don't see his stenosis having a major impact on lessening that number unless he has rapid progression of bone spurs due to more severe injuries, or other unforeseen cause.

From what I have read and seen, Jarvis is a high-quality person who has football instincts, a passion for the game, and consistently makes plays. Sounds like a Steeler to me. Glad to have him join Steeler Nation.

 

[3C's]

WR Emmanuel Sanders Says #Steelers Expecting 70 Catches,1,000 Yards From Him In 2013

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

WR Emmanuel Sanders Says #Steelers Expecting 70 Catches,1,000 Yards From Him In 2013

Well that would be nice.

 

[H8fulHuck]

WR Emmanuel Sanders Says #Steelers Expecting 70 Catches,1,000 Yards From Him In 2013

Well that would be nice.

Time will tell if he steps it up. Sanders fell short last season imho. I am pulling for him to turn the corner.