FWIW, on my limited reading on Tottenham, many places seem to expect Chiriches to be in the starting XI. And as my esteemed colleague pointed out, they just signed Rose to a 5 yr deal and even found a couple spots that suggested he could crack their first team. Vertonghen, Davies, and Walker are locks, but I didn't see any mention of Kaboul starting.###holeI am just being mean.Why?I am at a loss for words here15.14 Danny Rose, DEF, Spurs
16.1 Vlad Chiriches, DEF, SpursI am being honest, I don't see either Rose or Chiriches starting many league games this year. But, if I look at my team, I have 4 guys on my 5-man bench who may not play any league games this year, so what do I know....
The scuttlebutt on Rose is that they (supporters) think Pochettino sees something in him. Spurs were skewered last season for having no back-up LB - ironically for when Rose was out injured. Everyone identified LB as a position of need this summer - so Davies was brought in. Davies and Rose are polar opposites - Davies is more dependable defensively, but can get forward, Rose likes to bomb forward, but is less enthusiastic about defending. SO, it could come down to opposition as to who gets to play.Rose also did just sign a new contract (and there were other EPL teams interested). I have no idea what that means, but at the very least Kyle Naughton appears on his way out.
How come Kaboul only played in 13 games last year? It seems that Dawson or Naughton would be in line to start over the Impaler and that Vlad should have the edge over both at this point.The scuttlebutt on Rose is that they (supporters) think Pochettino sees something in him. Spurs were skewered last season for having no back-up LB - ironically for when Rose was out injured. Everyone identified LB as a position of need this summer - so Davies was brought in. Davies and Rose are polar opposites - Davies is more dependable defensively, but can get forward, Rose likes to bomb forward, but is less enthusiastic about defending. SO, it could come down to opposition as to who gets to play.Rose also did just sign a new contract (and there were other EPL teams interested). I have no idea what that means, but at the very least Kyle Naughton appears on his way out.
The idea is that having Rose on the team, is generally good - though lots of groans when they announced the new deal. Gives depth at LB (and ensures that Vertonghen is unlikely to have to play LB this year - hence his new deal, which should be signed soon). Pochettino gets a year to work with Rose, and with the new extension, he'll have as much or more value next summer. It also speaks well of Pochettino that Rose wants to stay and fight for time after Davies was brought in.
As for Vlad the Impaler - its hard to tell what is going on, no real solid ITK - several rumors of moving onto Serie A came out when he missed the US Tour, combined with several different reasons why he missed the tour. I like Vlad, and still hope he is starting besides Vertonghen in a couple of weeks - but Spurs are trying hard to bring in another CB, and they already have too many. They have tried to sell Dawson, but can't get rid of him - he won't leave. If that does not change, it may be Chiriches (or less likely Kaboul) out the door. Dier, the kid they just brought in, is the long-term answer for them at RCB, but probably backs up Kaboul (or other starting RCB) this season.
Kaboul is their best CB after Vertonghen, but he hasn't had a strong run of games since he came back from his latest injury. He was/is strong in the air and the fastest player on the team (faster than Lennon or Bale was).FWIW, on my limited reading on Tottenham, many places seem to expect Chiriches to be in the starting XI. And as my esteemed colleague pointed out, they just signed Rose to a 5 yr deal and even found a couple spots that suggested he could crack their first team. Vertonghen, Davies, and Walker are locks, but I didn't see any mention of Kaboul starting.###holeI am just being mean.Why?I am at a loss for words here15.14 Danny Rose, DEF, Spurs
16.1 Vlad Chiriches, DEF, SpursI am being honest, I don't see either Rose or Chiriches starting many league games this year. But, if I look at my team, I have 4 guys on my 5-man bench who may not play any league games this year, so what do I know....
Of course, certainly don't follow Spurs like you do.
He was coming off a major injury.How come Kaboul only played in 13 games last year? It seems that Dawson or Naughton would be in line to start over the Impaler and that Vlad should have the edge over both at this point.The scuttlebutt on Rose is that they (supporters) think Pochettino sees something in him. Spurs were skewered last season for having no back-up LB - ironically for when Rose was out injured. Everyone identified LB as a position of need this summer - so Davies was brought in. Davies and Rose are polar opposites - Davies is more dependable defensively, but can get forward, Rose likes to bomb forward, but is less enthusiastic about defending. SO, it could come down to opposition as to who gets to play.Rose also did just sign a new contract (and there were other EPL teams interested). I have no idea what that means, but at the very least Kyle Naughton appears on his way out.
The idea is that having Rose on the team, is generally good - though lots of groans when they announced the new deal. Gives depth at LB (and ensures that Vertonghen is unlikely to have to play LB this year - hence his new deal, which should be signed soon). Pochettino gets a year to work with Rose, and with the new extension, he'll have as much or more value next summer. It also speaks well of Pochettino that Rose wants to stay and fight for time after Davies was brought in.
As for Vlad the Impaler - its hard to tell what is going on, no real solid ITK - several rumors of moving onto Serie A came out when he missed the US Tour, combined with several different reasons why he missed the tour. I like Vlad, and still hope he is starting besides Vertonghen in a couple of weeks - but Spurs are trying hard to bring in another CB, and they already have too many. They have tried to sell Dawson, but can't get rid of him - he won't leave. If that does not change, it may be Chiriches (or less likely Kaboul) out the door. Dier, the kid they just brought in, is the long-term answer for them at RCB, but probably backs up Kaboul (or other starting RCB) this season.
Either way, it is the 15th/16th rounds and the attempt was to lock up a potential starting spot on a solid defensive team. It's always fun when we can discuss these late guys like this![]()
Kaboul had/has injury problems. When healthy, he is the "muscle" in the back line. Vald is more similar to Vertonghen - solid defensively, but more finesse that brawn. Both would be ahead of Naughton as CB. Naughton, if he stays (unlikely) would back up Walker at RB. Fryers gets that role, assuming Naughton leaves (and he wants to leave to get playing time). Kaboul did have an issue on the US tour - apparently got into a bit of an argument with Pochettino on the field about going forward in the Toronto game, and he was benched for the Chicago game. But nothing has come out of the team since then. The Celtic game tomorrow could start to answer some questions, but a number of key players did not travel, so its hard to tell where players will fit in the starting XI v. West Ham in a few weeks)How come Kaboul only played in 13 games last year? It seems that Dawson or Naughton would be in line to start over the Impaler and that Vlad should have the edge over both at this point.The scuttlebutt on Rose is that they (supporters) think Pochettino sees something in him. Spurs were skewered last season for having no back-up LB - ironically for when Rose was out injured. Everyone identified LB as a position of need this summer - so Davies was brought in. Davies and Rose are polar opposites - Davies is more dependable defensively, but can get forward, Rose likes to bomb forward, but is less enthusiastic about defending. SO, it could come down to opposition as to who gets to play.Rose also did just sign a new contract (and there were other EPL teams interested). I have no idea what that means, but at the very least Kyle Naughton appears on his way out.
The idea is that having Rose on the team, is generally good - though lots of groans when they announced the new deal. Gives depth at LB (and ensures that Vertonghen is unlikely to have to play LB this year - hence his new deal, which should be signed soon). Pochettino gets a year to work with Rose, and with the new extension, he'll have as much or more value next summer. It also speaks well of Pochettino that Rose wants to stay and fight for time after Davies was brought in.
As for Vlad the Impaler - its hard to tell what is going on, no real solid ITK - several rumors of moving onto Serie A came out when he missed the US Tour, combined with several different reasons why he missed the tour. I like Vlad, and still hope he is starting besides Vertonghen in a couple of weeks - but Spurs are trying hard to bring in another CB, and they already have too many. They have tried to sell Dawson, but can't get rid of him - he won't leave. If that does not change, it may be Chiriches (or less likely Kaboul) out the door. Dier, the kid they just brought in, is the long-term answer for them at RCB, but probably backs up Kaboul (or other starting RCB) this season.
Either way, it is the 15th/16th rounds and the attempt was to lock up a potential starting spot on a solid defensive team. It's always fun when we can discuss these late guys like this![]()
I hope there's a trade/pick in all this spurs ####eKaboul had/has injury problems. When healthy, he is the "muscle" in the back line. Vald is more similar to Vertonghen - solid defensively, but more finesse that brawn. Both would be ahead of Naughton as CB. Naughton, if he stays (unlikely) would back up Walker at RB. Fryers gets that role, assuming Naughton leaves (and he wants to leave to get playing time). Kaboul did have an issue on the US tour - apparently got into a bit of an argument with Pochettino on the field about going forward in the Toronto game, and he was benched for the Chicago game. But nothing has come out of the team since then. The Celtic game tomorrow could start to answer some questions, but a number of key players did not travel, so its hard to tell where players will fit in the starting XI v. West Ham in a few weeks)How come Kaboul only played in 13 games last year? It seems that Dawson or Naughton would be in line to start over the Impaler and that Vlad should have the edge over both at this point.The scuttlebutt on Rose is that they (supporters) think Pochettino sees something in him. Spurs were skewered last season for having no back-up LB - ironically for when Rose was out injured. Everyone identified LB as a position of need this summer - so Davies was brought in. Davies and Rose are polar opposites - Davies is more dependable defensively, but can get forward, Rose likes to bomb forward, but is less enthusiastic about defending. SO, it could come down to opposition as to who gets to play.Rose also did just sign a new contract (and there were other EPL teams interested). I have no idea what that means, but at the very least Kyle Naughton appears on his way out.
The idea is that having Rose on the team, is generally good - though lots of groans when they announced the new deal. Gives depth at LB (and ensures that Vertonghen is unlikely to have to play LB this year - hence his new deal, which should be signed soon). Pochettino gets a year to work with Rose, and with the new extension, he'll have as much or more value next summer. It also speaks well of Pochettino that Rose wants to stay and fight for time after Davies was brought in.
As for Vlad the Impaler - its hard to tell what is going on, no real solid ITK - several rumors of moving onto Serie A came out when he missed the US Tour, combined with several different reasons why he missed the tour. I like Vlad, and still hope he is starting besides Vertonghen in a couple of weeks - but Spurs are trying hard to bring in another CB, and they already have too many. They have tried to sell Dawson, but can't get rid of him - he won't leave. If that does not change, it may be Chiriches (or less likely Kaboul) out the door. Dier, the kid they just brought in, is the long-term answer for them at RCB, but probably backs up Kaboul (or other starting RCB) this season.
Either way, it is the 15th/16th rounds and the attempt was to lock up a potential starting spot on a solid defensive team. It's always fun when we can discuss these late guys like this![]()
Dawson is not suited to play the high line, and build-up from the defense, that Pochettino wants to play. Spurs have a deal in place with Hull, and I think one other team, but Dawson will not leave - been with the club nearly 10 years, lots of loyalty, wants to fight for his position, is the current captain (likely to be either Vertonghen or Lloris this year) gets a Testimonial game if he stays with Spurs until January yada, yada, yada.
And soccer will almost be big in the US.16.11 Ben Lederman III, M, Indy 11*
By the time it gets to this pick Ben's grandson will be 31, the continents would have shifted and the North American English Premier League would have formed.
They'll never crack The Spurs backline of Parker and GinobliWhy?I am at a loss for words here15.14 Danny Rose, DEF, Spurs
16.1 Vlad Chiriches, DEF, Spurs
16 . 05 8ebok24 ---SKIPPED
16 . 06 Sinn Fein ---OTC
16 . 07 Sebow/GPJ ---
16 . 08 Christo ---
16 . 09 Eephus ---
16 . 10 Moe ---
16 . 11 Gator ---
16 . 12 Charvik ---
16 . 13 Ominous ---
16 . 14 Bonzai ---
HALT
I'll pick the guy Spurs are chasing - no guarantees they get him - have to purchase from multiple owners - Villarreal, River Plate, and an Agent all own a piece.16 . 04 Shader --- Negredo - Man City - For
16 . 05 8ebok24 ---SKIPPED
16 . 06 Sinn Fein --- Mateo Musacchio, Villarreal, DEF
16 . 07 Sebow/GPJ ---
16 . 08 Christo ---
16 . 09 Eephus ---
16 . 10 Moe ---
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16 . 12 Charvik ---
16 . 13 Ominous ---
16 . 14 Bonzai ---
HALT
16 . 05 8ebok24 ---SKIPPED
16 . 07 Sebow/GPJ ---OTC to 6:44 PDT
16 . 08 Christo ---
16 . 09 Eephus ---
16 . 10 Moe ---
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16 . 12 Charvik ---
16 . 13 Ominous ---
16 . 14 Bonzai ---
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Eephus said:16 . 05 8ebok24 ---SKIPPED
16 . 07 Sebow/GPJ ---SKIPPED
16 . 08 Christo ---UP no clock
16 . 09 Eephus ---
16 . 10 Moe ---
16 . 11 Gator ---
16 . 12 Charvik ---
16 . 13 Ominous ---
16 . 14 Bonzai ---
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don't recall posting this :Sebowski:
wait…. What are we laughing at
boooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hiiiiiisssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!No weekend clock
Why is that?We only have seven more picks to make and the 17th round Free for All isn't going to happen until European close of business on Monday
I posted this around the middle of last week. First off, the start of the 17th round window needs to be at a time when everybody (including Sebowski) is awake. Also, if we set it after European EOB, it's less likely that someone will benefit from some late signing coming across Twitter.Why is that?I might not have traded away my pick, if I knew we were timing the 17th round so carefully.We only have seven more picks to make and the 17th round Free for All isn't going to happen until European close of business on Monday
Damn, sniped in the 16th round, who would've thunk itShout out to the R's!
With pick 16.08 Real Christo selects . . .
Joey Barton, M, Come on you R's!
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F - Alexis Sanchez
F - Bojan Krkic
F - Nikica Jelavic
F - Mauro Zarate
M - Samir Nasri
M - Ross Barkley
M - Paulinho
M - Steven Davis
M - Sami Khedira
M - Joey Barton
D - Laurent Koscielny
D - Jan Vertonghen
D - Phil Jagielka
D - Joleon Lescott
D - Mats Hummels
G - Vito Mannone
G - Costel Pantilimon
Wow! 17 picks thru 16 rounds. Looks like someone's draft is finally over.Damn, sniped in the 16th round, who would've thunk itShout out to the R's!
With pick 16.08 Real Christo selects . . .
Joey Barton, M, Come on you R's!
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F - Alexis Sanchez
F - Bojan Krkic
F - Nikica Jelavic
F - Mauro Zarate
M - Samir Nasri
M - Ross Barkley
M - Paulinho
M - Steven Davis
M - Sami Khedira
M - Joey Barton
D - Laurent Koscielny
D - Jan Vertonghen
D - Phil Jagielka
D - Joleon Lescott
D - Mats Hummels
G - Vito Mannone
G - Costel Pantilimon
16.11 Yevhen Konoplyanka, M, Liverpool