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*2014-15 EPL Fantasy - 15-16 league rules wars & signup open (1 Viewer)
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jonessed
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He was expected to play as of yesterday and was in every paper's expected line-up.
Just pay attention.
The Gator
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Ramsay Hunt Experience
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The fact that this type of thing has happened to every team just convinces me that the policy is fair. Next year, maybe the East Coasters can have their own league.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
I saw that he trained without incident on Twitter yesterday. I'm not sure I would have taken the chance, but that's the risk.
The policy is fair - in that it treats everyone the same, but that does not make it a good rule.
We could make a rule that all goals counted for -2 points, it would be fair, but not a good rule.
I am willing to do the work to ensure everyone has an opportunity to make line-up changes prior to the start of the game - just send me a list of subs based on situation the night before, and give me commish access, and I will go in and adjust based on your lineups accordingly.
We should not be playing guessing games over who is starting, when we don't have to.
Native
Footballguy
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
It's not going to change. Throwing a tantrum every week isn't going to change that. Passive aggressive hashtags are fine, but if you want your own rules, start your own league.
There is no question, that under the rules it was a risk, and I made the decision based on the rules. I can live with that. I am probably also going to win this week regardless, but if I lose, #### happens.
The larger point remains we should be putting out line-ups with best information available. This is not a case where we cannot allow for substituting players based on game-time decisions. The game allows for it, the other two games I am playing allow for substitutes if a player does not play - which shifts the risk to play the normal line-up, and you have a backup ready just in case.
We do not have that luxury - but not because we can't do it with fantrax, but because we somehow think its better to make ill-informed decisions.
The Gator
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Bonzai
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gianmarco
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Starting Manquillo just for you.Sir Papa Pepe v Emre Can Marko Hazard, Saido No One Ever
The Scouse Derby
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
Has the Kop come up with a terrace song for him yet? A humble suggestion:Starting Manquillo just for you.Sir Papa Pepe v Emre Can Marko Hazard, Saido No One Ever
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The Gator
Footballguy
:spitsdrink:Has the Kop come up with a terrace song for him yet? A humble suggestion:Starting Manquillo just for you.Sir Papa Pepe v Emre Can Marko Hazard, Saido No One Ever
The Scouse Derby
I'll stealing that
gianmarco
Footballguy
No, the 2nd one was actually a FCFS after waivers went through. That shouldn't affect the order.
ETA--And part of the reason I ask is that you're up to 9th after you were 2nd. So is it now based on standings as a tiebreaker? There were 6 teams that had processed claims, it seems. That's not insignificant.
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jonessed
Footballguy
The two teams that processed a second claim are at the bottom.I was the first person to process one claim so I'm on top of those that processed behind me.
That all makes sense to me. Neither Fazio nor Hernandez were Free Agents so they had to go through as waivers.
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Eephus
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Can we update this with who has been dropped by their owners at this point? Is the above correct?The draft is over and teams have been entered. Go in and check your squad when you get a chance. I didn't enter placeholders this year because Fantrax didn't populate a the database as widely this year. Let me know when your guys get added in and I'll place them on your team.
Counting Jonessed round #17 skip, 23 speculative picks were made
PK TEAM PLAYER POS TEAM
14 . 05 8ebok24 --- Paul Pogba --- MID Juventus
17 . xx 8ebok24 --- Marquinhos --- DEF Paris St. Germain
16 . 14 Bonzai --- Facundo Ferreyra --- FWD NEW ADDED
17 . xx Bonzai --- Angel di Maria --- MID Real Madrid ADDED
14 . 12 Charvik --- Xherdan Shaqiri --- MID Bayern
16 . 12 Charvik --- Mario Balotelli --- FWD Milan DROPPED!!!!
17 . xx Charvik --- Karim Benzema --- FWD Real Madrid DROPPED
14 . 08 Christo --- Sami Khedira --- MID Real Madrid
15 . 07 Christo --- Mats Hummels --- DEF Dortmund
8 . 09 Eephus --- Eliaquim Mangala --- DEF Porto ADDED
16 . 09 Eephus --- Mauricio Isla --- DEF Juventus ADDED
16 . 11 Gator --- Yevhen Konoplyanka --- MID Dnipro
17 . xx Gator --- Arda Turan --- MID Atletico Madrid
17 . xx Gator --- Joshua Guilavogui --- MID Atletico Madrid DROPPED
17 . xx Jonessed --- --- ADDED
9 . 13 Native --- Edinson Cavani --- FWD Paris St. Germain
17 . xx Native --- Juan Cuadrado --- FWD Fiorentina
9 . 08 Sebow/GPJ --- Mathieu Valbuena --- MID Marseille
10 . 04 Shader --- Ezequiel Lavezzi --- FWD Paris St. Germain DROPPED
15 . 11 Shader --- Alberto Moreno --- DEF Sevilla ADDED
17 . xx Shader --- Douglas Costa --- FWD Shakhtar Donetsk DROPPED
12 . 06 Sinn Fein --- Marco Reus --- MID Dortmund DROPPED
14 . 06 Sinn Fein --- Juan Fernando Quintero --- MID Porto DROPPED
16 . 06 Sinn Fein --- Mateo Musacchio --- DEF Villarreal DROPPED
10 . 01 gian/RHE --- Arturo Vidal --- MID Juventus
13 . 07 gian/RHE --- William Carvalho --- MID Sporting Lisbon
gianmarco
Footballguy
I'm saying we didn't process a 2nd claim during waivers. We only had 1 player put in for waivers (Balotelli). I manually added Blind after waivers processed. If you look, there were 2 moves that happened after the pickup of Blind (at 6:02, btw, after the 6:00 waiver run). Eephus picked up Vargas at 6:05 and SF picked up Ben Arfa at 6:16 after I grabbed Blind at 6:02 yet neither of those were moved below us since we're still sitting at 14. That confirms it's the FCFS period and teams shouldn't move at that point.
I was the first person to process one claim so I'm on top of those that processed behind me.
That all makes sense to me. Neither Fazio nor Hernandez were Free Agents so they had to go through as waivers.
In fact, it looks like SF actually did process 2 waivers during the run (Fazio and Hernandez). If that's the case, I would think he at least would be behind us since he's the only team that processed 2 claims.
I'm asking because, anytime I've been in a league when waivers go in a rotating order, waivers are run by priority. #1 happens first. Then that team goes to the end. Then #2 happens and then moves behind the 1st team, who moves up to 2nd to last, and so on and so forth. If it were only a couple teams, then it's not a big deal. When almost half the league has processed waivers, it's a big difference if we should be at #9 vs. #14. And it's strange that the #1 priority (us) is sitting at #14 and the #2 priority (you) is sitting at #9. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason how it ended up.
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jonessed
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It makes sense. The automated waivers were all processed. The FA pickups post automated waivers didn't affect waiver order, but the WW pick-ups after the automated waivers did affect order and bumped those teams to the bottom.Blind could not have been a FA. He was simply processed as a waiver after the automatic waivers.
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The Gator
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Just going by what papa pepe said, that he added him after the 6:00 run.
If it was his second ww claim, then yeah, makes sense.
I sense a rhe defined ww add
gianmarco
Footballguy
That's strange, then. First of all, on my Fantrax page, it's not showing at 6:00. Here is the copy and paste:
Processed on Sep 04, 2014 6:02 PM EDT
Claim: Daley Blind M - MUN
I don't get why another waiver would have processed but if it moves us back, so be it.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
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#iwillwhineaboutthisuntilDecember
#suckitThat's strange, then. First of all, on my Fantrax page, it's not showing at 6:00. Here is the copy and paste:
Processed on Sep 04, 2014 6:02 PM EDT
Claim: Daley Blind M - MUN- Sir Papa Pepe
I don't get why another waiver would have processed but if it moves us back, so be it.
You should get your waiver priority back though - the punishment is having Blind on your roster...
Eephus
Footballguy
Vargas and Ben Arfa were the only FA pickups. The others were all WW.
The Fantrax option is to process claims in rounds. So teams who made two WW pickups are at the end of the queue now. The only oddity is why the Blind pickup seems to have handled separately. I suspect he was a late add and was classified as a waivers claim rather than a free agent claim.
As far as I can tell, the only impact is to #13 & #14 positions on the waiver wire. This isn't going to be a game changer since neither is likely to cycle near the top this season.
The Fantrax option is to process claims in rounds. So teams who made two WW pickups are at the end of the queue now. The only oddity is why the Blind pickup seems to have handled separately. I suspect he was a late add and was classified as a waivers claim rather than a free agent claim.
As far as I can tell, the only impact is to #13 & #14 positions on the waiver wire. This isn't going to be a game changer since neither is likely to cycle near the top this season.
Eephus
Footballguy
According to the transaction history page, both processed at 6:00 ESTThat's strange, then. First of all, on my Fantrax page, it's not showing at 6:00. Here is the copy and paste:
Processed on Sep 04, 2014 6:02 PM EDT
Claim: Daley Blind M - MUN
I don't get why another waiver would have processed but if it moves us back, so be it.
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 6:00PM
Sir Papa Pepe
Claim (WW)
Blind, Daley M - MUN
Executed
4
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 6:00PM
Some People Call Me Mauricio
Claim (WW)
Hernández, Abel F - HUL
Executed
4
gianmarco
Footballguy
#suckitThat's strange, then. First of all, on my Fantrax page, it's not showing at 6:00. Here is the copy and paste:
Processed on Sep 04, 2014 6:02 PM EDT
Claim: Daley Blind M - MUN- Sir Papa Pepe
I don't get why another waiver would have processed but if it moves us back, so be it.
You should get your waiver priority back though - the punishment is having Blind on your roster...
Eephus
Footballguy
Moe.
Footballguy
I had a claim out on Blind. I guess I didn't prioritize so I got Robert Green in the first round and then didn't get him in the second. You couldn't have added him as an FA after waivers. Fantrax just bumps everyone that had the same number of executed claims up one spot. No going to the back of the line when your claim is made stuff. It's why I'm still behind everyone else who used one pick-up even though they picked ahead of me. I don't know how other sites do it but it wouldn't surprise me if Fantrax is different.
Moe.
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