*2014-15 Hot Stove Thread: The Padres won it I guess (1 Viewer)

[pantagrapher]

hi pantagrapher. welcome to the thread

Was it mentioned? I missed it.

 

[the moops]

hi pantagrapher. welcome to the thread

Was it mentioned? I missed it.

Cryptically mentioned by the old man

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Royals avoid arbitration with Eric Hosmer. $5.65 this season, $8.25 in 2016, then off to a larger market in free agency.

Great glove at 1B, extremely popular with the female Royals fans, never quite hit like you would hope with a guy taken with a draft pick that could have been Buster Posey, but still a useful player.

 

[Eephus]

Royals avoid arbitration with Eric Hosmer. $5.65 this season, $8.25 in 2016, then off to a larger market in free agency.

Great glove at 1B, extremely popular with the female Royals fans, never quite hit like you would hope with a guy taken with a draft pick that could have been Buster Posey, but still a useful player.

He's turned into a nice player but I don't know about drafting a high school 1B at #3 overall. It's an uncommon position for high draft picks.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Royals avoid arbitration with Eric Hosmer. $5.65 this season, $8.25 in 2016, then off to a larger market in free agency.

Great glove at 1B, extremely popular with the female Royals fans, never quite hit like you would hope with a guy taken with a draft pick that could have been Buster Posey, but still a useful player.

He's turned into a nice player but I don't know about drafting a high school 1B at #3 overall. It's an uncommon position for high draft picks.

Not a lot of folks accusing the Royals of being experts on draft picks and player development. Two years earlier, they took Luke Hochevar at 1.01 in a draft that also had Kershaw, Lincecum, and Scherzer in the top half of the first round. Then they took Mike Moustakas at 1.02 the next season.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

I never realized that Hochevar got drafted three times, that's pretty good.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Hosmer is such a tease. I think lots of folks are buying in this year based on last years postseason outburst, but he won't be on any of my teams.

 

[Da Gildz]

Hosmer is such a tease. I think lots of folks are buying in this year based on last years postseason outburst, but he won't be on any of my teams.

Agreed. 4 years in the books now, he is what he is. Average power, average speed, + BA. He's an average CI, anything more then that, you're asking a lot.

 

[Da Guru]

Royals avoid arbitration with Eric Hosmer. $5.65 this season, $8.25 in 2016, then off to a larger market in free agency.

Great glove at 1B, extremely popular with the female Royals fans, never quite hit like you would hope with a guy taken with a draft pick that could have been Buster Posey, but still a useful player.

Despite getting close to 600 ABs a season Hosmer is basically a 15-18 HR /65 RBI guy. Those are nice stats for a MI, but for a 6-4 225lb first baseman they seem quite pedestrian.

 

[RnR]

I'm not predicting a breakout or anything, but Hosmer is entering his age 25 season. Still plenty of time for him to put up a couple of .300/25/100 type seasons.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Hosmer is such a tease. I think lots of folks are buying in this year based on last years postseason outburst, but he won't be on any of my teams.

He has good enough hands and agility to play 3B, but too late to change that now. When he stopped hitting HRs last season he lost of value. The team offense actually upticked a little when he got hurt, and the team comedy went way up with Billy Butter trying to field a position.

Yost is also a minor factor here. He jacks the batting order around so often, Hosmer could hit anywhere from 2nd to 6th from week to week, affecting his PAs and production opportunities considerably without warning. But some of that is on Hosmer: he doesn't walk enough to hit 2nd, strikes out too much to hit 3rd, and keeps the ball in the park too much to hit 4th.

If Hosmer stays healthy (no reason to assume he will get hurt) he will improve on 2014 numbers but his ceiling is probably what we saw in 2013.

 

[Da Gildz]

I'm not predicting a breakout or anything, but Hosmer is entering his age 25 season. Still plenty of time for him to put up a couple of .300/25/100 type seasons.

Why? He's never shown that kind of power production. Even in the minors, he maxed out at 20 hr's 1 season. His minor league #'s pretty much mirror what he's done at the pro level. I don't see a power uptick looming.

He's a glorified James Loney.

 

[RnR]

I'm not predicting a breakout or anything, but Hosmer is entering his age 25 season. Still plenty of time for him to put up a couple of .300/25/100 type seasons.

Why? He's never shown that kind of power production. Even in the minors, he maxed out at 20 hr's 1 season. His minor league #'s pretty much mirror what he's done at the pro level. I don't see a power uptick looming.

He's a glorified James Loney.

He went .321/99/20/100/14 as a 20-year-old minor leaguer in 2010. That's the only minor league season during which he played a "full year."

His "per 162" numbers at the big league level through age 24 season (.275/77/17/78/12) are only disappointing because of the hype train that followed him to the majors.

Sure, he needs an uptick in his fly ball rates for this to happen, but I'm saying by age 27-32 seasons there could be a 25 HR season or two in that bat. I don't think that's a stretch.

Loney does seem like a natural comp for Hosmer's power upside, but he has never hit more than 15 HR in his 9 year MLB career. Hosmer has twice in four seasons.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

I'm not predicting a breakout or anything, but Hosmer is entering his age 25 season. Still plenty of time for him to put up a couple of .300/25/100 type seasons.

I still believe...a little

Its all about where you can get him. If he falls enough, I still think there's upside where he's worth a grab.

 

[Eephus]

I'm not predicting a breakout or anything, but Hosmer is entering his age 25 season. Still plenty of time for him to put up a couple of .300/25/100 type seasons.

I still believe...a little

Its all about where you can get him. If he falls enough, I still think there's upside where he's worth a grab.

1B is deep and I think 3B is a bit deeper than it's been in recent memory. He seems he'd fall into the CI pack in most standard leagues but if you go elsewhere early, Hosmer could make a decent, low risk/reward pick for your 1B slot.

 

[pantagrapher]

Eric Hosmer is basically Delmon Young

 

[MAC_32]

Eric Hosmer is basically Delmon Young

Whoa.

 

[MAC_32]

I'm not predicting a breakout or anything, but Hosmer is entering his age 25 season. Still plenty of time for him to put up a couple of .300/25/100 type seasons.

I still believe...a littleIts all about where you can get him. If he falls enough, I still think there's upside where he's worth a grab.

1B is deep and I think 3B is a bit deeper than it's been in recent memory. He seems he'd fall into the CI pack in most standard leagues but if you go elsewhere early, Hosmer could make a decent, low risk/reward pick for your 1B slot.

If I get an OF and Tulo early then miss Gonz and Votto I'll probably end up with Hosmer, Belt, or Moss.

 

[Eephus]

I'm not predicting a breakout or anything, but Hosmer is entering his age 25 season. Still plenty of time for him to put up a couple of .300/25/100 type seasons.

I still believe...a littleIts all about where you can get him. If he falls enough, I still think there's upside where he's worth a grab.

1B is deep and I think 3B is a bit deeper than it's been in recent memory. He seems he'd fall into the CI pack in most standard leagues but if you go elsewhere early, Hosmer could make a decent, low risk/reward pick for your 1B slot.

If I get an OF and Tulo early then miss Gonz and Votto I'll probably end up with Hosmer, Belt, or Moss.

I don't think there's a huge dropoff there except in OBP leagues.

 

[Grahamburn]

Too many grounders for Hosmer.

 

[MAC_32]

Too many grounders for Hosmer.

while true they have been slowly trending down and he's replacedthem with fb's. Both his ifh and hr/fb last year were unusal and excessively low.

 

[Eephus]

Too many grounders for Hosmer.

while true they have been slowly trending down and he's replacedthem with fb's. Both his ifh and hr/fb last year were unusal and excessively low.

Are you going to update your avatar next week?

 

[Don Quixote]

Shoulder surgery for Profar. I could probably cut and paste from last year's thread.

 

[MAC_32]

Too many grounders for Hosmer.

while true they have been slowly trending down and he's replacedthem with fb's. Both his ifh and hr/fb last year were unusal and excessively low.

Are you going to update your avatar next week?

I think I need to keep it as punishment for a to be determined period of time.

 

[MAC_32]

So, Rougned Odor due a bump in rankings but...

...which Rougned Odor?

 

[shadyridr]

Speaking of 1B, why is Freeman ranked in the top 20 on most sites? With their weaker lineup the RBI numbers will be down again and he was never a big power guy.

Actually his ADP is around pick 30 still seems a bit high to me.

 

[MAC_32]

Speaking of 1B, why is Freeman ranked in the top 20 on most sites? With their weaker lineup the RBI numbers will be down again and he was never a big power guy.

Actually his ADP is around pick 30 still seems a bit high to me.

25, babip appears sustainable, has a season long ISO of 196, slg of 501, bb rate trending up, hasn't missed more than 15 games in any of the last four years, 315/405/525 looks within reach.I wouldn't do it, but I get it. More concerned with who is behind him than in front actually. Markakis should be one, not sure of the other but a modest bounce back from Simmons would suffice.

Cleanup though? Woof.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

He does hit a loooooot of line drives, but yeah, I'd probably take a pass this year.

 

[Eephus]

The Royals signed Franklin Morales to a minor league deal.

He was USDA Prime Gobbler last year as a starter in Colorado but that's a tough situation for anybody. He had some decent years as a reliever with Boston and is still left-handed as far as I know.

 

[The General]

Worth drafting for perhaps the greatest mustache I have ever seen: Espinosa

 

[Captain Hook]

Worth drafting for perhaps the greatest mustache I have ever seen: Espinosa

too bad it won't make him a better hitter

 

[Limp Ditka]

Worth drafting for perhaps the greatest mustache I have ever seen: Espinosa

too bad it won't make him a better hitter

You don't know that

 

[Eephus]

Worth drafting for perhaps the greatest mustache I have ever seen: Espinosa

too bad it won't make him a better hitter

You don't know that

Can't make him much worse

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

Eric Byrnes on MLB Network can't understand why Kris Bryant was not brought up to the majors last season. Every article on Bryant mentions why he won't be with the Cubs until mid-April, yet I am certain Byrnes will be shocked when Bryant doesn't break camp for Opening day.

 

[Eephus]

Eric Byrnes on MLB Network can't understand why Kris Bryant was not brought up to the majors last season. Every article on Bryant mentions why he won't be with the Cubs until mid-April, yet I am certain Byrnes will be shocked when Bryant doesn't break camp for Opening day.

There are lots of things Byrnsie doesn't understand.

 

[jfranco77]

Everth Cabrera to the former PED offender loving Orioles. Could displace Schoop at 2B or just roam the infield.

 

[MAC_32]

Everth Cabrera to the former PED offender loving Orioles. Could displace Schoop at 2B or just roam the infield.

Leadoff potential if he starts off hot. I'm intrigued. Schoop was a big prospect, but he was also terrible last year.

 

[rodg12]

Handful of pace of play rules announced today...

PACE OF GAME

• The pace of game program will enforce the batter's box rule, requiring that all batters must keep at least one foot in the batter's box unless one of a group of exceptions occurs. The new rule at the Major League level mirrors 6.02(d), which was in place in Minor League Baseball in 2014.
• A second new component to the pace of game program is the addition of timers that will measure non-game action and break time between innings and pitching changes during each Major League game. One timer will be installed on or near the outfield scoreboard, and a smaller timer will be installed on the façade behind home plate near the press box. Immediately following the third out of each half-inning, the timer will count down from 2:25 for locally televised games and from 2:45 for nationally televised games. An MLB representative attending each game will operate the timers from the ballpark and will track the following events:

Time Remaining​

Activity​

40 Seconds​

PA announces batter and begins to play walk-up music​

30 Seconds​

Pitcher throws final warm-up pitch​

25 Seconds​

Batter's walk-up music ends​

20 Seconds-5 Seconds​

Batter enters the batter's box​

20 Seconds-0 Seconds​

Pitcher begins motion to deliver pitch​

• Pitchers will be permitted to throw as many warm-up pitches as they wish prior to the point when 30 seconds remain on the clock; however, pitchers will be deemed to have forfeited any of their traditional eight warm-up pitches that they are unable to complete prior to the 30-second deadline. Exceptions to these rules will be made in a variety of circumstances, including if the pitcher or catcher ended the prior half-inning at bat or on base.

• Batters will be encouraged to get into the batter's box with 20 seconds remaining on the timer. This is the same time that the broadcasters return from commercial. The pitcher is expected to begin his motion to deliver the pitch as soon as the batter gets into the batter's box and becomes alert to the pitcher. Batters who do not enter the box prior to five seconds remaining on the timer and pitchers who do not begin the motion to deliver the pitch prior to zero seconds remaining on the timer will be deemed to have violated the break timing rules.

• These rules will be enforced through a warning and fine system, with discipline resulting for flagrant violators. No fines will be issued in Spring Training or in April of the 2015 regular season. Donations will be made to the Major League Baseball Players Trust charitable foundation based on the level of adherence to the new rules.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

I don't hate it. This all seems pretty reasonable.

 

[rodg12]

I'm fine with it. Basically speeding things up between innings and keeping batters in the box. Should lead to improvements in pace without adding a freaking pitch clock. I really hope they don't add that.

 

[Wrigley]

Works for me

 

[Eephus]

I hope the warnings and fines are made public so we can get metrics about the pokiest pitchers and batters

 

[pantagrapher]

No more dilly dallying.

 

[Eephus]

No more dilly dallying.

Rob Manfred: Tough on lollygagging

 

[RnR]

I hope the warnings and fines are made public so we can get metrics about the pokiest pitchers and batters

Dave Cameron already has these at the elite subscriber level. He even uses them in his WAR valuations.

 

[Wrigley]

pure awesome

 

[Limp Ditka]

I hope the warnings and fines are made public so we can get metrics about the pokiest pitchers and batters

Dave Cameron already has these at the elite subscriber level. He even uses them in his WAR valuations.

Does he have mustache splits too? I'm really feeling a Danny Espinoza breakout.

 

[Daywalker]

Why do baseball writers have a hard time wrapping their mind around Scherzer's contract? It's basically 7/190. Lester got 6/155.

Scherzer was the premier FA. He got a bit more per year then Lester and an extra year. Yes that is more. But enough that everyone likes the Lester deal while calling the Scherzer deal an albatross?

15 years ago, Mike Hampton got 8/121.

All this talk of the horror of Scherzer getting 15million/year in 2026 is mind-numbing. Rubes.

 

[MAC_32]

So the only thing between Beachy and the fifth starter role is Brett Anderson.

Anyone know when his second TJ was? March last year?

 

[shadyridr]

Why do baseball writers have a hard time wrapping their mind around Scherzer's contract? It's basically 7/190. Lester got 6/155.

Scherzer was the premier FA. He got a bit more per year then Lester and an extra year. Yes that is more. But enough that everyone likes the Lester deal while calling the Scherzer deal an albatross?

15 years ago, Mike Hampton got 8/121.

All this talk of the horror of Scherzer getting 15million/year in 2026 is mind-numbing. Rubes.

whos eveyone? The guy is a stud and deserves everything he got